Spunkmeyer, make sure you leave the ramp down and all the doors unlocked.
>>215131230>Spunkmeister runs up the ramp to put his hand into a puddle of spunkCAMERON!!!
>>215131230JC made one good movie, The Terminator.
>>215131230How far in the future was this again?Why does she even know the "Fly the friendly skies" slogan?
>>215133096she didnt. she just reinvented it in that moment
>>215131230"The area was secure"-Lt Gorman
>>215133159>wasis
>>215131230The whole point of the marines is to show their arrogance is what gets them killed. Ferro and Spunkmeyer didn't believe Ripley's story, so they landed the dropship (like they were supposed to), maybe Spunkmeyer was refuelling the ship, maybe he was just stepping outside to take a piss, either way neither of them expected a hostile presence, let alone deadly aliens. As far as they were concerned the situation was most likely some dumb colonists broke their communication equipment or something just as trivial.
>>215133873>forgetting that the marines have already explored the complex and determined they were wiped out in a fight>forgetting that the presence of Ripley's aliens has already been confirmed >forgetting that Spunkmeyer himself gets to look at the facehuggers in the lab while wheeling shit in for Bishopcopethe marines were inhumanly retarded because Cameron needed them to be
>>215131230>Spunkmeyer, make sure you leave the ramp down and all the doors unlocked.He just went to rock a piss.
>>215134764In the Professional corps we piss in our diapers in active combat zones
>>215134668I'll admit, I did forget about the fight. But remember the marines still go in overly confident because as far as they're concerned nothing can beat them. Spunkmeyer also doesn't seem particularly impressed by the facehugger, if anything he seems bored.>the marines were inhumanly retarded because Cameron needed them to beCameron wrote them to be arrogant, they're not inhumanly retarded, and if you think they are, then you have spent a lot of time around people working in trades or manual labour. People do really stupid shit even when they KNOW it's dangerous. I have seen people brace angle grinders with the stomachs while cutting metal, I have seen crews take the guards of concrete saws because they "get in the way" shit that will rip you open faster than you can blink. We know the marines are being fucking stupid and should have just nuked the site from orbit the second they saw the colony, but that's because we have seen the Alien before, we know exactly what they're up against. The same way we know it's fucking stupid for the jock to "go check it out" in slasher films.
Give me your aliens script! I've been trying to think of an alien film that doesn't rehash or make the universe smaller. The only one I can think of is a found footage from the PoV of a survivor but I feel like it'd be campy horrorhouse film
>We're laying pipe, five to five.This made no sense as she's not a construction work.
>>215131230>make sure you leave the ramp down and all the doors unlocked.>inhumanly retardedThis is moronic cope because your <current era shite> is getting rightlyfully called out.
>>215134984>make the universe smallerFilms don't work anymore. There's not enough cinema-going audience, the ones that are there just endlessly whine "dis jus da same thing! xeno is dead it has to be diffrunt! not scurry!" blah blah. It has to default to a stupid haunted house slasher movie to get any box office. We all thought it'd work as a TV show since they would finally be able to expand the universe showing the lore that's been there for decades. And look how poorly that turned out. At least they finally acknowledged that there's more than just weyland yutani and it's not controlling the entire galaxy.
>>215131230hey that's my wife!
>>215135172the progressive peoples parts are probably somewhere you just want to go alive
>>215135172Whats the power ranking for all of them?I feel like 1st place could be a toss-up between TWE and UA. While 3rd is solidly UPP. Then ICSC
>>215133873>>215134668The marines did thoroughly scout the entire colony area with motion trackers and found nothing hostile. Using the colony computers, they determined that all colonist's trackers were many kilometers away at the atmosphere processing plant. Hudson says it has a 20km range and it takes him a long time to find them. That's why Ferro and Spunkmeyer felt safe to have the ramp down. The Squad had to drive all the way over there to find the enemy. And they wanted the dropship to pick them up since it would take a while to walk back. The movie skips over how long it takes for them to walk back. But they spend a while looking over the blueprints and see that a really long service tunnel is how the xenomorphs are going back and forth from the plant to the colony.
>>215135172-The RPG's introduce fullfremmen-The border bombings mentioned in the books using synths but implied it shadow gov (could be the top company execs trying to push for an intergalatic war to make sales or could be them prepping humanity for a conflict with engineers) sadly goes nowhere since we see no mention in Aliens Resurrection
>>215134932>should have just nuked the site from orbit the second they saw the colonyThere's really no need. All colonists are already dead. The aliens are essentially in hibernation at that point (the worst part of the lore here). No reason they can't just be observed from afar since the aliens literally have no way to cause any problems. At that point, they could take there time bringing more equipment from Earth. Send in drones and androids to collect specimens and conduct experiments with the aliens. Burke was 100% right that it was dumb to arbitrarily exterminate them.
>>215135634Nah, the Xenomorph represents an existential threat and needs to be wiped out. The only reason to do any further study on LV-426 would be to study the derelict to determine a possible origin point and go there to wipe that out as well.
Millburn, be sure to give that alien snake a blowjob.
>>215131230>"Ferro, be advised, we've just been ambushed by multiple hostile organisms and have taken heavy casualties. Your position might be compromised. Look sharp."
>>215135800Who's saying this? The Lieutenant who's been shown repeatedly to be out of his depth?
>>215135722Most based anon in the thread
>>215135819Why would he or anyone with military training and access to comms equipment withhold such vital info?
>>215133096IIRC the original film is set in 2122. This isn't confirmed in-film (I don't think) but it's probably established in the novelization/screenplay or other secondary stuff. Then the events of Aliens occur 57 years later, and the fan consensus seems to be that it takes place in 2179 specifically (maybe that's mentioned in the screenplay, maybe not). So late 22nd century.>>215133873Yes and no, and there's tension between these two attitudes among the characters. The two contradicting attitudes are alternated to make the drama work. During the initial wake-up sequence, the dominant idea is to show that they're all cocky and some of them don't take her too seriously. But Ripley does assert herself and their CO does tell them to read her file. She gets their attention, and during their initial exploration, everything they see lines up with what she's been telling them. When they get into the building they do take the op seriously because it's obvious that the shit has gone down. At the critical moment, when they move into the hive, Gorman blinks and gets locked-in, rather than calling everyone back to reset. That's the critical fuck-up, and it's written so that it's perfectly obvious to the audience so they can say to themselves "what the hell are you doing". Then the major problems begin. Gorman even had a smug look when they found the PDTs: "Heh, we found 'em, this'll be easy." He must have thought that they were all "hiding out" over there, or something.But yes, overall the "strict" culture shown alternates with obvious fuck-ups like leaving the hatch open. Ripley even creates her own problem when she mashes elevator buttons, allowing the queen to follow them in a second elevator (she can hardly be faulted for this panic-error, given the situation, but still).
>>215135931Because HE is overwhelmed by the situation in front of him and the last thing he is thinking about is the dropship miles away from them.
>>215135800He's conveniently knocked out during his power struggle with Ripley inside the APC (how the fuck did pencilneck Burke force him into the side compartment? I guess you could say that corporate/controlling interests take over around this moment), because the story requires him to be out of commission for a bit so that Ripley/Hicks can take over, thus preventing this rational communication. If he had understood himself to be in a battlespace like everyone else, with lots of shit inside the APC that might get knocked down and knock him in the head, then he might have worn a helmet, but he doesn't do that. Newt gets the idea in the middle when she cutely puts on a helmet herself. It might have actually protected her when it counts.
>>215131230Jizz Oscar Meyer, is there an E.T. on board?Over.
>>215135998Gorman didn't issue the request for evac though. It was Hicks.
>>215136050>issue the request for evacIt's too late by then.
>>215136076>Prep for dust off, we're gonna need an immediate evac.>Oh btw there's ayylmaos. Do NOT let Spunkmeyer outside the dropship to piss.
>>215136153>Prep for dust offD'yah think MAYBE a ship that just dropped through an atmosphere requires someone to go outside to check the hull and engines before taking off again?
>>215135722>the Xenomorph represents an existential threatIt doesn't represent any more threat than a tiger that's smart enough to solve puzzles and open doors. It literally can't get off LV-426 and certainly can't pilot spacecraft. And as stated, they can observe it for decades with no problem or danger. The more they watch and learn about the alien, the less dangerous it is. It's only ever a problem because people didn't know of its abilities and lifecycle.
>>215135771he wanted to be like his dad Prometheus
>>215136239This is a very good and plausible rationalization for why the action unfolded as it did, I am embarassed to say that I hadn't thought of it myself.
>>215135943>IIRC the original film is set in 2122.Seems a bit early for space travel to be as mundane as it is in the film. I guess they still thought there would be big space developments in the coming decades, since it was only 10 years after the moon landing. Instead we got nothing besides sone shoestring budget probes.
>>215136239Do you think that maybe the guy that's out performing a pre-flight check might possibly need to be made aware of any clear and present danger?
>>215136391nah, danger is a middle name they eat for breakfast
>Vasquez: Hey, mira, who's Snow White?>Ferro: She's supposed to be some kind of consultant. Apparently she saw Alien (1979) once.kinda took me out of the movie
>>215136391How do you know he wasn't already out there when Hicks called? Coupled with the fact they are MILES away. No reasonable person would think they are in immediate danger. The aliens are neither clear nor present that far away from the facility.
>>215136487Ridley would have had the alien grab the controls and start flying the dropship around laughing at the stupid humans before flying up to the Sulaco and leaving the system with the humans stranded.
>>215131230>space ship has two drops pods >but only one pilot I mean, just in fucking case, why wouldn't you leave ONE FUCKING GUY! back on the ship JUST IN CASE literally ANYTHING happens down on the planet. I understand that dramatically its done to lock the characters in the house with the monsters, but logically it has just bugged the shit out of me since I was like 12.
>>215136567It makes no sense whatsoever to have ZERO crew on the orbiting ship
They left Bishop all by himself in the complex for hours with Aliens running about, the landimng pad isn't far away from ops.
>>215136391Spunkmeyer himself is the guy who wheels gear in to Bishop as Bishop is examining a dead facehugger. To do this, he had to cross through the ruined complex himself. He has all the information he needs and he still fucked up.
>>215136475Neglecting to inform them lead to Spunkmeyer disregarding his discovery of a big handful of xeno jizz on the ramp.
>>215136567Because they treat it's like not a big deal, a huge waste of time, and that they're baby sitters. They say repeatedly that nothing ever happens. It's boring. It's why it's the job for a green Lieutenant with barely any experience. Send him out, he'll see that the dumbass colonists broke their radio, patch it up, the marines fuck the local girls and leave them single mothers, then pack it up and go home.
>>215136611>He has all the information he needs and he still fucked up.No he doesn't. He doesn't know if the threat is still active. He doesn't know what exactly the threat is. And none of them know the aliens are smart enough to scout out the dropship miles away and attack it.>>215136621>Neglecting to inform them lead to Spunkmeyer disregarding his discovery of a big handful of xeno jizz on the ramp.Again. It's too late. What do you expect him to do when he discovers the jizz? Use harsh language? He's deadmeat.
>>215136673>What do you expect him to do when he discovers the jizz?Have his guard up? Maybe draw his sidearm and warn Ferro that the dropship might be compromised?
>>215136653Yeah, but like leave one dude, just in case. And still, there are at least two drop ships, and only one pilot and co-pilot. Bishop was the only other one who could fly it. And again, it doesn't really matter, because the movie needs to happen. And even if they thought it was a bull shit job, you would still need someone up on the ship, just in case literally anything happened.
>>215136732You're right that it's crap Cameron did to make the story work. But I still kinda liked it since it adds to the scifi feel. In this future, space travel and equipment is so mundane that they don't need backups upon backups. The ship can run itself and they have a remote control box that can fly another shuttle down to them in half an hour if they need it. The series won't ever do anything interesting with that so oh well.
>>215136567That said, in a series of strange and perhaps meaningless yet somehow directly relevant coincidence, Ridley directed a film about the true story of American soldiers who wore only half their body armor and carried no night vision or water on a special mission.
>>215136819>space travel and equipment is so mundane that they don't need backups upon backupsYeah but the problem is Alien perfectly establishes that even in futuristic deep space travel you still have Bone Nus and HDS as the blue collar goldbrickers who were there to do the work. It wasn't star trek.
>>215136865That was 57 years ago. The times, they are-a changin'!
>>215136865Alien perfectly establishes how a space trucker ship works. Not a military vessel.
>>215136896Its dumb and sloppy writing that everyone is willing to forgive because its just shit you have to get out of the way so you can have space marines shootan bugs.
>>215136943>Its dumb and sloppy writingNo, it isn't. You just desperately want it to be to justify how awful the writing is in the current nonsense.
>>215136947>>215136967>>215136988kino
>>215136968You don't know me you stupid coping faggot
>>215137058Yes I do, Brad.
>>215136988suck in that gut marine
>>215135931>Why would he or anyone with military training and access to comms equipment withhold such vital info?Ferro should have been monitoring the platoon net the whole time to prepare for an evac. She would have heard the entire fight and been ready to evac the platoon, if not orbiting the evac site itself in anticipation of the order.
>>215136309The challenger explosions(happened year the movie released) and the collapse of the soviets really fucked space exploration because budgets got pulled for satellites and internet instead.That being said, Alien space travel is absolute ass. Extended cryo-sleep moving at sub-light speeds is miserable and shitty but it mostly exists to make sure it's clear the various parties are extremely isolated, like soldiers in 'nam
>>215136245Weyland-Yutani hands typed this post.Fuck off Burke, you don't see them fucking eachother over.
>>215136621The thread is exploring the interesting idea of exactly who was in contact with who, and when. Various posts have suggested that the ground team failed to inform the pilot team of the threat in time. I would like to think that Ferro has an open channel at all times, but the very fact that Hicks asks whether she copies, and that she seems fairly nonchalant, would suggest that she's not fully aware of what's just happened, which is stupid but again necessary for story reasons. A whole bank of monitors and bio-readouts showing hyper-concern for each individual and then the pilot team is like eh, whatever. But it's fiction, and it works as a fictional story.Also things are moving very quickly, and the mission time marker on the above APC monitors is very helpful. They're only a few hours in, whatever it is, at the time of the hive. The monitors themselves anticipate bodycams on cops, the show COPS itself, etc, and give a little of the "found footage" horror genre, film-within-a-film, but porting the basic idea directly from the original (signal weakens as the away team approaches the dangerous structure).I compare all this to the Apollo program. As a boomer, Cameron had it in mind as a model for how spaceflight and missions in general might work. Other anons have commented that you obviously want to have at least one guy up in orbit, which is what Apollo did (although that guy couldn't do anything to rescue the ground crew if anything went wrong on the surface). Also, the occasional comms back and forth between pilot group and the ground crew are slightly suggestive of same. In the last Avatar movie, the human landers have "LM" written on them, i.e. the Lunar Module abbreviation.
Imagine being a kid growing up on LV-426. Dark, stormy, dead world is all you've ever known. Then you turn 20 and get a ticket back to Earth. It would be mind blowing.
>>215137151>he thinks they're ever getting off LV-426
>>215137151Imagine instead of a ticket back to Earth you get a cutie Landon gf.
>>215137138>A whole bank of monitors and bio-readouts showing hyper-concern for each individual and then the pilot team is like eh, whatever.The pilot team wouldn't necessarily be aware of that unless Gorman was telling them, having said that I'd also be surprised if the aircrew weren't also on the same comms as the ground team given how they deployed. At the very least they'd be monitoring it, even if they weren't going to talk on it.
>>215136947I like how the gun turret on the ass end just conveniently folds down from top to ass for that one shot when the APC enters the main structure itself, all to spec to get under that door with low clearance. Also, when the figures emerge from the APC once they're inside, they hardly seem to come out of the APC itself, I don't recall any door slamming or interior shots. Last I watched, it looks more like an action trick where the figures simply emerge from behind the APC, in one shot, much more quietly than before. This contrasts with the drama/action of the original sortie and is a beat of quiet, meaning that things are getting serious now.The hangar matte shot at meeting time establishes the existence of two (a second, backup) drop ship. Will review footage of drop ship #2 for 02 markings or similar. That matte shot reminds me of a similar one for Return of the Jedi when the Falcon is in a hangar with other rebel craft, wonder if the two had any techs in common.
>>215137151>Then you turn 20 and get a ticket back to Earth>get a ticket back to Earth>back to Earth
>>215131230Why are you blaming Spunkmeyer it was this bitch's fault for not listening to him when he tried to warn her.
>>215135722>The only reason to do any further study on LV-426 would be to study the derelict to determine a possible origin point and go there to wipe that out as well.WTF dude?
>>215137334
>>215137334What was confusing or shocking about what that anon said? A murder parasite like that should be wiped out.
>>215137369They're part of the galactic ecosystem and imporant. Don't mess with nature.
>>215136967>>215136988Apparently the designer is unaware of axles
>>215137524Electric motor wheels
>>215137524this is scifai space technology, its like way advanced
>>215137542>you blew the transaxle. you're grinding metal. ease down. ease down. ease down.
>>215137151The brief colony scene becomes more meaningful once you internalize that every last one of those people, man woman and child, got horribly, horrilbly bodied. This kid's mom died right in front of him, like the last victim, and then he himself went the same way. He was alive for like 30 minutes, two hours, something like that, and he could feel it moving, or at least he thought he did as he listened to the other horrible noises.Burke is also written as being absurdly, cartoonishly evil, a continuation of the "evil company" theme from the original. He's so greedy that he's willing to try a cockamamie plot when his immediate and rational concern is to just survive, and he has no problem re-traumatizing Newt in the attempt (subjecting her to a facehugger is tantamount to child rape, Newt hides behind Ripley and stares Burke down knowing what he really is now, absolute evil). Hicks had been about to summarily execute him because he's too much trouble. On the other hand Burke may have more abstract, future-time orientation and may be focusing on how things will go for him upon return to Earth if Ripley's story gets out, corroborated now by real evidence. His calculation is still incorrect because he hazards his own immediate safety in-the-moment because Le Greedy Villain.
>>215131230i'm in the five, five five five!
>>215137592>>you blew the transaxleAlien continues to be transcoded.
>>215137246It's pretty brief. They have the door open to let the retreating troops inside. Then Vasquez is helped in backwards, but has to shoot to save Drake. The acid gets sprayed on Drake and he flames the APC doorway. Then they try to close the door preventing aliens from getting in.
>>215137460>not including the beautiful and seamless dissolve from Ripley's face into the Earth
Spunkmeyer has always been trans coded.
>>215137608The big question is when did this colonist get taken? The chestburster erupts immediately and they usually only gestate for a few hours or less. Did she hold out for almost a month just to finally get snatched and impregnated the very day the marines show up to save them? That's brutal
>>215137767alien gestation is always as long as the plot needs it to be
>>215137767>The big question is when did this colonist get taken?Why is that a big question? They already established Newt survived by hiding for that long.
>>215137796Well, why don't you put her in charge then?! It's a big question because Newt doesn't mention her and no one gives a shit to ask about her. Everyone assumes Newt was on her own for weeks and the colonists were long dead/captured.
>>215137767The xenos cocoon people up until they need them. They force feed them xeno secretions so they don't die. That's why the cocoon people are insane and look like death.
>>215137479They aren't though.
>>215137865They are though.
>>215137843>They force feed them xeno secretions so they don't diegroooossss
>>215137092He's been seconded from the national guard
>>215131230>SPUNKMEYER, FILL MY PIPE 5 BY 5
>>215136487>Standard experience of white chick in an urban bus
>>215134811They weren't israeli, aside from Vasquez.
i suggested they call these movies face rapers. i was ignored
>>215138375
>Jonesy is left on the space station>Inherits the entire Bonus amount>buys the station and rules as king>served fresh salmon and new pussy every dayNot such a bad deal after all.
>>215136567Two options really, call the dropship remotely from the first one, or the colony transmitter. But then again, they kind of did suspect a downed transmitter, so yeah...that only leaves the possibility of calling it from the original dropship. Bad planning, no redundancy. They were lucky the colony transmitter worked at all.
>>215137116They can't possibly be moving at sublight speeds. Even with pretty fast FTL cryopods would make sense. I guess the movies wanted to avoid the stereotypical "drop us out of warp" stuff that looks flashy, but it had to be happening I don't care what any books or shit say
>>215137479They're basically space jews and need to go away forever and permanently.
>>215137767I always had a headcanon that a lot of colonists were kept alive but not facehugged until the marines showed up. In the first movie the writers suggested alien was at the end of its natural lifecycle and had crawled into the escape shuttle to die. If the sequel took that into account maybe the hive kept colonists in reserve to hatch fresh new aliens when a threat appeared. (Yes, I know that nowadays aliens are considered essentially immortal, but that hadn't been established in the franhise yet)
>>215137608He's just jewish. It's very simple. Completely predictable psychotic behavior.
>>215138781>I always had a headcanon that a lot of colonists were kept alive but not facehugged until the marines showed up. This is correct.
>>215138618>yfw you realize Jonesy is dead >>215138586I think about that a lot when I see an animal in a film. The exception being turtles or parrots but how many of those do you ever see in movies anyway?
>>215138122One will protect you, the other four will try to kill you. Which do you choose? Top versions of course.
>>215138714>I don't care what any books or shit sayOne of the books says that the human mind can't handle traveling FTL while conscious.
>>215138915I'm going with shitty-Monk on the right
>>215138375Browns are much much worse
>>215138915My boy Wierzbowski all the way. When they come at us, the idiot Dietrich kills off Frost then Spunkmeyer kills off Ferro. Then me and Wierz kill off those two chumps.
>>215136429>Mira Ferro>Mia Farrow
>>215138915I'm taking Frost. He's the only one with trigger discipline.
>>215138915wierzbowski, just look at his forearms
>>215131230It's weird how Starcraft just copied this character 1:1 for the dropship unit.
>>215137063>>215136988>>215136967>>215136947>>215138122Neat!
>>215136732Man you sound retarded. Why didn't they this or that?! But I understand the movie needs to move forward. Dude, it's a movie and it's sci-fi. Imagine if they just nuke the site from orbit or had another air crew on the ship that could easily fly down to the planet in a matter of seconds and rescue everyone before dark. That doesn't sound like an interesting movie now does it? God you people are retarded.
even Alien is just a bmovie writing wise. Aliens just moreso soley due to cameron involvment. they look nice and directed in a fun way, but to give either some sort of credit for being smart would be retarded. alien pisses me off moreso on rewatches because the characters even have scenes pointing out the mistakes only to be ignored or brushed aside.>why dont dey freeze him?
>>215140084Many of the marine quotes come from the movie too. At least in the OG Starcraft, mission three if you read some of the billboards I think it mentions a "shake & bake" colony. That's from the movie too.
>>215140084It wasn't weird back then. So much vidya stuff was taken directly from 80s action movies and no one cared.
>>215138901Female tarantulas can live for decades. Some of the spiders from Arachnophobia might still be kicking around in an old bug's home.
>>215138440ooof
make way, best character coming through
>>215135634>Burke was 100% right that it was dumb to arbitrarily exterminate them.Burke was also the dumbass who caused this entire mess in the first place with not just his greed, but his colossal stupidity (if he had been greedy and smart, he would actually have been able to climb the company ranks), so they had every reason not to trust his judgement.
>>215135771Can't beat Navarro tho
>>215140084Starcraft 1 had great atmosphere
>>215131230AI bad but Romulus and Earth worse
>>215137128they fuck eachother over in alien 4
>>215142253>only got hugg'd for a minute>still implanted>bursts out of her chest like barely five minutes later>its fully grown another five minutes the speed of the alien growth throughout the movies is so inconsistent.
>marines gets told they're not allowed to take weapons down or there'll be an explosion>this is supposed to create tension that they'll be unarmed>but actually they do take weapons anyway so that doesn't matter>but actually they get easily wiped out even with weapons so it really didn't matter>but also they don't cause any explosions despite firing wildly in a panic when they're being wiped out so the entire plot point was pointlessThis part of the script is so sloppy and bad it always ticks me off
>>215134932Dumbest thing I ever witnessed on the job. Or rather, dumbest thing my boss tried to get my coworker and I to do:>middle of winter>get to freshly built shop>gotta insulate the attic with blown fiberglass>contractor was supposed to provide us with a scissor lift>no scissor lifts available at job site>call manager, says he'll fix the situation>15mins go by>we see a forklift with an empty pallet trundling down the road towards us>coworker and I both say out loud, "no way that's for us">it's for us>pallet is covered in ice and slick as shit>attic access is 25-30ft up>call manager, ask him wtf is this?>tells us it's fine and we're being pussies>tell him to fuck off, we're not going up there until we get a proper scissor lift>hang out in warm truck cab for 3 hours before a lift becomes available
>>215142721you and your mate are pussies
>>215142538>the speed of the alien growth throughout the movies is so inconsistent.It's consistent if you only watch the two movies that matter
>>215142746NTA, but fuck you. Workers comp isn't always worth it.
>>215142721Meanwhile at my gay nanny company>not allowed to lift anything over 20kg by yourself>stepladders and scissor lifts need gigantic bracing poles extended on both sides>can't step on the top row of the stepladderI'm sure they do things a lil' differently in the third world branches heh
>>215134668they did not take the threat seriously
>>215142721Seen forklifts used as makeshift lifts too many times. Funny it's one of the things they explicitly tell you not to do when getting your forklift license.
>>215142721that reminds me of one I saw>get to job site>walk into building>another crew was doing work on the ceiling and their scissor lift didn't go high enough>so they strapped a second one on top of it
>>215142849A young spray foamer that used to be on the crew rode the bucket scoop of a telehandler up to the 4th floor once. Only "reasonable" spot to feed the spray hose through was an unfinished exterior vent that was about 6"x4".
>>215142596didn't the wild firing damaged the reactor cooling and started the whole "saving Newt before the big boom"?
>>215137524nor does the wheel have to turn in 22th century
>>215143012Yes, but only because Gorman didn't tell his team that they were directly under a cooling system for the colony's fusion reactor, which lead the smartgunners disobeying his order to clear their weapons.
>>215143012No the dropship does that.
>>215138440Rightoids always try to own Israelis with this factoid but US soldiers wear diapers as well.While writing Generation Kill journalist Evan Wright learned that some of the US Marines he was embedded with were wearing diapers during the Invasion of Iraq.
>>215142847>characters are retarded to make the threat more dangerouswelcome to the point
>>215142721This is very normal. People get on pallets on forklifts all the time.
>>215143193>US Marines he was embedded with were wearing diapers during the Invasion of Iraq.So ZOG soldiers fighting a war for Israel.
>>215131230Gotta air out the stank.
>>215136865Its all about the mega corporations.
