How tf did this movie have a budget of 130-175 MILLION dollarsThere are only a few big set pieces and they're just a bunch of extras standing in a crowd to give the movie a sense of scale. The big finale car chase involved 3 vehicles on an empty road. Is doing that all really that expensive? Most of the movie is just dialogue scenes between a few people.Once upon a time in Hollywood cost only 90 million and Tarantino completely recreated 60s LA
>>215142077stop digging
>>215142077Leo, Benecio, Sean would not be working for scaleLeo is probably 20-30 millionBenecio and and Sean are probably 10 million eachthe director is probably 5 million45-55 million right there
probably frivolous cgi to remove or place in stuff in every shot like how mindhunter was an incredibly expensive show despite being just people talking in rooms (they used cgi to alter basically every single shot for no reason)
A significant portion of the budget was spent on location shooting in California, with a reported "below the line" cost of $101.6 million for these on-location expenses. Star Power: The involvement of a major A-list star like Leonardo DiCaprio, alongside other prominent actors such as Sean Penn and Benicio del Toro, contributed to the high production cost. Film Formats: The movie was filmed in VistaVision, a large format, and released across various premium film formats and locations to enhance the viewing experience, which adds to the production cost. Marketing costs for the film could total around $70 million, further increasing the overall financial investment by the studio.
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>>215142114Crazy shit, it's pretty obvious AI will replace Hollywood at this point.
>>215142140marketing is not part of the production cost
>>215142156Yeah marketing is usually the same as production cost so the total cost for this was 260-350 million. No way it's making its money back
>>215142114So retarded. Actors need to be put in their place. The producers and director should be the highest paid , then the crew, set designers, costume, VFX etc, then actors
Actors fees: 30 millionSet design and physical production: 20 millionDirectors fee: 5 millionA few small beers: 100 millionAll other expenses, 15 million
>>215142170not the same amount but maybe a decent % of itthey dont normally say what promotion costs are but I do know of one anecdote: when Shutter Islands release was delayed during the global financial crisis it was revealed the reason was Paramount did not have the 50 million dollars necessary to fund its promotion campaignso that was an 80 million dollar film with a 50 million dollar marketing campaign
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>>215142114Leo was paid 30 million for Killers of the Flower Moon and Dont Look up, so 30 million is spot on for him
>>215142203>a regular episode of the A-Team had much more action setpieces and cost one hundred times less than OBAA
>>215142186VFX get absolutely screwed and the reason is they are the one part of the industry without a union
150 million is about the cost of Jurassic Park if adjusted for inflation. Since there were no massive cgi or setpiece action scenes I would have to suspect its probably like >>215142130 says.The costs have modern filmmaking has exploded not because actors or too expensive, or because its becoming too expensive to shoot in certain areas. 99% of it is due to poor planning by the directors/producers which results in ridiculous costs in post production to correct their mistakes(needing to have stuff painted out of frame, needing to use cgi to redub scenes, or just needing to use CGI to fix shitty sets). Digital was a mistake not because it looks worse than film(digital can look very nice). Its inferior because it allows the filmmakers to be lazy. Don't worry about set design(we can do that in post), don't worry about crew/equipment being in the shot(we can fix that in post), don't worry about your actors delivering their lines perfectly(we can just re record the lines and redub the scenes in post).
>>215142186>Actors need to be put in their place.Even less people would have watched this lefty garbage without the star power.
>>215142528>99% of it is due to poor planning by the directors/producers which results in ridiculous costs in post production to correct their mistakesI'm convinced it's deliberate.They want an expensive project under their belt, so they baloon the costs. All the managers go along with it, because delays mean more money for them. Studios can't do shit about it, because canceling the project costs them more than a delay and recruiting unknown producers means risk.
>>215142528i also heard that they had to completely shut down production for a few months while Benicio filmed the Phoenician SchemeBasically PTA was given a blank check and just did whatever until he felt the movie was done
>>215142528they are unique and creative artistes they do not need to plan and prepare
>>215142578>shutting down production for a supporting actorlolno
>>215142578>Basically PTA was given a blank checkThe whole movie feels like PTA Oscar pandering.
>>215142077Probably the bank heist having to close down a bunch of streets. The riot scene with the apartments. And then the fact that Leo took home like 20 mil, probably 20 mil to the director, who knows what the producers took.
>>215142114This, plus shooting on location in California, and the movie had a lot of different location shoots so that adds up. They shot on vistavision too, I doubt that was cheap. And with this being PTA's highest budget movie by far, it's also possible he just let the budget run away from him a bit. If you're not used to handling that kind of money, it can happen. What's more surprising is how he got this budget greenlit when all of his movies have flopped. I know he is respected in the industry, but still. They had to have known it wasn't going to make its money back even with Leo attached.
>>215142634>What's more surprising is how he got this budget greenlit when all of his movies have flopped.The studio thought PTA + Leo + some guaranteed Oscars are worth it.
>So uhhhh we are just going to film across the entire state of California
>>215142605Yeah but he’s a hell of an actor man, he was amazing in Fear And Loathing In LV. Who gives a shit if the studios still cashing checks.
>>215142629an absolute top of the line director like Spielberg and Bay get 10 million + profit percentage dealPTA would be about 5 millionLeo would be 30 million >>215142285Leos involvement would be how it got greenlit, plus his film would be a 'prestige' production
>>215142077He was raped by a woman.
>>215142651Leo, sure, but PTA isn't a box office draw. They must really be banking on the Oscars.
>>215142722>but PTA isn't a box office drawHe's a reviewer magnet. Look at all those insane reviews. No movie is that good.>>215142722>They must really be banking on the Oscars.That for sure.
>>215142634>location in California, and the movie had a lot of different location shoots so that adds up.I point to my A-Team comparison again>They shot on vistavision too, I doubt that was cheap. 90% of the movie are daylight exteriors, that shouldnt add much cost, maybe the lab processing costs were a little higher, but I dont see the production cost on the screen at all.
>>215142077Every damn movie's budget is bloated these days
>>215142114They paid leo 30M so they could market this movie but he's done shit movies since covid and audiences are tired of him.
>>215142878Like I said, I suspect the producers being corrupt and milking the studio. The studios then are too scared to axe the producers, because that's too risky.
>>215142900He isn't even a box office magnet. Only Titanic and Inception made super star money. Even something mass compatible like Wolf of Wallstreet only made 400 million.Gang of NY, Gatsby, Romeo, Beach, Shutter Island, Once Upon are all in meh territory (especially for their costs).Good actor, but not worth 30M.
>>215142871>I point to my A-Team comparison againA-Team...the 80s tv show? Not sure if that's a great comparison. Or the movie, which was apparently shot in Canada? Canada's much cheaper to film in than California. Cali's an expensive state to do location filming, and the movie has a lot of locations, some requiring pretty big stunt work like the car chases (they were not huge action set pieces, but do require shutting down roads and getting permits).>90% of the movie are daylight exteriors, that shouldnt add much cost, maybe the lab processing costs were a little higher, but I dont see the production cost on the screen at all.Vistavision requires special equipment to film and this is only the second movie to use it since the 60s so it's probably not easy to get your hands on and would most likely require specialists to produce. I'm not saying the budget is entirely justified, but stuff like this does add up. Like I said, I think it's likely that PTA just didn't know how to handle a budget this big and it got out of control. Auteurs like him like to muck around and can be perfectionists, he probably spent a lot on specialty equipment - like the vistavision stuff - , reshoots, and other unnecessary frivolities.
>>215142955>Cali's an expensive state to do location filmingDon't they use California all the time, because the unions demand extra money if you film outside a 50 mile radius of Hollywood?
>>215142955A-Team(the tv show) was shot on California and had tons of stunts and action scenes per episode>Vistavision requires special equipment it's a 35mm camera modified to load the film sideways, it's not like a 3D camera that requires literally twice the gear and crew
>>215142991>Don't they use California all the timeNot anymore, no. Most studios nowadays film in places like Canada, Atlanta, the UK, New Mexico. California doesn't offer tax breaks, it has a higher cost of living so you need to pay crew more, has expensive permits, and has more regulations that make it difficult to film.>>215143006>A-Team(the tv show) was shot on California and had tons of stunts and action scenes per episodeYeah, it was also a tv show made in the 80s. Not really comparable. For one, California was easier to shoot in back then, it's become more expensive for the reasons I mentioned. Their actor and crew salaries wouldn't be nearly as high, nor would they be using similarly expensive equipment. Comparing tv to movies is apples to oranges, especially such an old show. It's just not the same.>it's a 35mm camera modified to load the film sideways, it's not like a 3D camera that requires literally twice the gear and crewMaybe. I'm not an expert, just throwing it out there that it could be a reason. I believe it does use special lenses and is probably not easy to produce considering it hasn't been in use in such a long time. That's speculation, but still.You seem to think I'm trying to justify the budget; I'm not. I agree it seems way too high. I'm just saying these are some of the reasons it could be so inflated, not all of them. But the A-Team comparison is a joke, I'm sorry.
>>215143067>believe it does use special lensesit doesnt>hasn't been in use in such a long timethey kept using the cameras for VFX>A-Team comparison is a joke,they were capable of producing more action sequences for a hundreth of the cost, that's the jokeThe Brutalist was Vistavision and cost $10M btw
>>215142949They should make a Money Ball but for movies
No way is Dicaprio worth 20+ million studios need to blacklist him
>>215142077well between penn and leo thats prob what, $45-50 mill between them?
>>215142239was very surprised to learn dril was a millenial thought he was a gen x fag for sure.
>>215143580>He hasn't been watching Leo since the 90sHonestly Catch me if You + Django + Aviator are some of my favorite performances of his.
>>215144194Ok, but Leo did not writer or direct them.
>>215144277Ok but he basically carried the films.
>>215142077They had to pay Leo a lot in order to mingle with a sheboon
Here's your heroic resistance warrior bro
>>215145526KekReminder that in the book she isn't a sheboon This wokefest was meant for the Kamla timeline
>>215145526She isn't heroic and she isn't fighting in that scene doe.
>>215145707>Ackchyually the antifa losers don't see themselves as heroes protecting the poor oppressed folks and leftie politicians aren't encouraging anti deportation protests only because Drumpf is in power Just drink the kool aid and shut up leftie tard
>>215142077yes, the astroturfing on youtube and advertising was the rest of the cost, probably in the order of 110 million. the week it was coming out, my youtube suggestions went insane with reviews that this is the movie of the decade, a revolution in movie making, i had to add so many unknown channels to my "do not recommend channel" list
>>215142170it's a propaganda piece, it's not meant to make a profit
>>215145526abortion by machine gun kickback, an interesting new concept, only black scientists could invent this
