How did this happen?Japan shouldn't be winning in the west
name 5 good movies that came out this year
>>215145535Modern western writers stopped knowing how to write
Is Demon Slayer actually good or just regular shounenslop?
>>215145567One Battle After AnotherThe Smashing Machine28 Years LaterF1Superman
>>215145535Anime has been the most popular for of cartoons worldwide for a solid decade now.
>>215145622Yeah Demon Slayer is a screenwriting masterclass
Those tariffs can't come soon enough.
>>215145692The only surprise here is how the west isn't failing harder.
Western media is unwatchable matte. Soon even korean dramas are going to start topping the American and European shows and China will take movies and video games.There is probably still some time, if the west acts now, but since cultural expression is a reflection of culture it´s not really something that could be quickly fixed. You need at least 25 or 30 years and the west has 5 or 10 at the most to produce profound cultural changes. I for one welcome our new asian overlords. Anime is cool and there is AI translation tools these days, won´t even need to learn Chinese before being sent to the camps. Aren´t we lucky?
>>215145680It is but has top quality animation.I just went through marathoning this and Invincible and the latter got absolutely mogged animationwise.
>>215145535Go back to /a/
>>215145715In comparison to epic chungus villains making quips every 5 seconds everything is
west is not capable of SOVL. simple as99% of your media is just golemslop KILL KILL KILL RAPE RAPE RAPE CRIME CRIME CRIME DRAMA DRAMA DRAMA SEX SEX SEX HATE HATE HATE
>>215146668>99% KILL/RAPE/HATEI will now watch your kino
The fact you see Japanese stuff in the west means they are losingJews are slowly buying them out until they will own the entire industry
>>215146603Demon slayer is on par with whatever you described
>>215146718Then this american will cry about public shootings
korea won go back to /a/
>>215145535the west is now flooded with brown "people" so it's no wonder tranime is doing good
Would he approve?
>>215146668America pretty much invented the concept of soulThe Lord of the RingsStar WarsHarry Potteretc
>>215145535And they're still saving the best parts of the source material for the next movie.
>>215145535I do not like that art style but if it's got fanservice and other kino American media doesn't have anymore I'm happy it raped Superman
>>215145680It starts as shounenslop but has gotten into actual kino territory lately.
Fat mutt fears the samurai, his empire of dust falling apart as the Empire rises once again
>>215146947Nah, manga authors are usually able to take their stories seriously even when they're not very good instead of protecting their infantile egos behind a thick layer of cheap irony
>>215147112It's over
>>215145680Regular Shounenslop with production values turned up to 11.
>>215147203>Nah, manga authors are usually able to take their stories seriouslyShonen anime is inherently unserious.
>>2151472694u
>>215147112>The Lord of the Ringsgenocidal racialized slop>Star WarsAll they do is kill people. The only part that's soulful is literally stolen from the East Asian Chi concept>Harry PotterThis one is tolerable but they couldn't help but put cuck shit in the last ones
You don't have to explain why this happened.There's no special reason.This is not an accident.Demon Slayer has been popular in the West for years, even if you don't like it.That all.
>>215147326>ADULTERY IS BAD BECAUSE...IT JUST IS OK?
>>215147326>>Star Wars>All they do is kill people. The only part that's soulful is literally stolen from the East Asian Chi conceptLiterally the worst part about the movies
>>215145680>story is so simple an 5yo could understand>story doesn't drag like most successful shonens, has only 1 main villain throughout the whole story>kino characters>kino enemies>battles are something out of a michael bay movie>great waifus>animation and soundtrack are incredibleit's great yeah
>>215145680I was surprised how much I enjoyed the first episode so I watched the rest. Pretty wholesome. It's easy to see why it's so popular.
>>215147353>star wars without jedi/sith/forceit would be c-tier bargain bin slop
I can’t wait for the west to try ripping off Isekai shit next.The self published book market is filled with that crap so it wouldn’t be hard.
>>215145535I thought the West was a synonymous of "First World" and Included stuff like Japan and Australia?If not what do you include as "the West"? Africa? Latin America?
>>215147430NATO countries only
>>215145680Shounenslop carried by good animation
>>215147397Nobody genuinely gives a fuck about the force. They just like the cool lightsaber fights.
>>215147112America is the literal manifestation of anti-soul and thus anti-culture. Pure materialism is the only outcome of its' foundational cultural values and constitution.
>>215146955televisions and films dont cause real world violence grandpa
>>215147112>2/3 of those were written by Brits >the one that wasn’t is pure formulaic stop Intredasting
>>215146947The West developed critical theory and allowed it to become the primary lens through which everything else gets interpreted, so everything here is a gay anti-reality deconstruction project right down to the presuppositions. Yes, people would rather watch Kenpachi Ramasama use the power of friendship to blow up the bad guy for the millionth time than watch Captain Solami-American rob a bank and have panic attacks and twerk. Yes, they're real fucking dumb for not wanting to watch your retarded "I'm not like the other girls" grey morality hit piece on their culture in a 10 hour Netflix series. They don't want to watch irony poisoned, nihilistic, yet weirdly somehow severely moralized bullshit because they're dumb and you're smart. That's why Hollywood can only ever make money these days when they flay out older properties and wear the skin of more traditional works like fucking Leatherface. It's because people don't understand the brilliance of "errm... X is bad, actually!" and get baited into watching the same meritless crap that people have been sharing around campfires since the dawn of time for no reason, apparently.
>>215147112>The Lord of the RingsBooks written by a British professor, films made in New Zealand by a kiwi director.>Star WarsA direct rip-off of multiple other sources, now driven into the ground by American greed.>Harry PotterBooks written by a Brit, films made in Britain.Let's face it, the best America ever invented for "culture" has been fast-food and capeshit... and we can see just how devastating those have been for humanity.
>>215147112>lotr>harry potter >americaU wot m8?
Japan is the skinniest country on the Planet. USA is fat. That is what is happenning.
>>215145680Shounenslop I'm afraid.Same with JJK.Looks nice tho.
>>215148335You call it capeshit, most people nowadays see it as the most important religion that far surpasses christianity, islam and buddhism
>>215148728The only thing I remember about JJK so far is that one bitch with the stupid haircut who may or may not be fucking her very underaged brother.
>>215145680its slop
>>215148402are brits not taught american history?america conquered and annexed the UK back in 1773you niggas are a state of the USA
>>215147154Superman just wasn't popular
>>215145535Why are there so many lies pushed for this movie
>>215145731it's actually kind of funny that in their attempt to force brown people on the west all they did was destroy the european diaspora market and prop up the asian one.
>>215145680It's slop with SOUL.
>>215145715You must think that complex emotions can only come from complex plotlines.
>>215145535People are sick of gay race communism being injected into every piece of western media
>>215145535Only 22% of its gross is from the US. It’s all Asian countries watching it. There is a billions of them so what do you expect?
>>215145680It is the most generic shounenslop imaginable.
>>215150861>only 22%You can't just slap "only" in front of things and expect that to diminish it. US tickets accounting for "only" a quarter of sales for a new Chinese cartoon that isn't Ghibli is a hell of a lot more than you should expect.
>>215145535>destroys the reputation of Box Office Mojo>still becomes one of the biggest movies of the yearI kneel.
>>215145680regular shounenslop. still a fun one tho.
>>215145535They aren't winning. FX and Trump cucked anime lol.And get a new hobby instead of doing the same boring bait thread with your Discord faggot friends (looking at Fag #1: >>215147362, Fag #2>>215150612 and Fag #3: >>215152434).
Anime having a resurgence in the west was something I didn't expect.I pretty much stopped watching most of it in the 2000s.
>>215150861The funniest part is that because nearly all of its money comes from Asian countries, that also means this movie is MORE vulnerable to FX. Expect the numbers to be lower.>>215153066Anime has become more popular since the pandemic, but this movie's success is still mostly an Asian thing. Asia makes up the clear and overwhelming majority of its box office by 60% while the West only made up 35% of its revenue.
>>215150861>onlyIt's a couple million away from being the highest grossing non-Hollywood movie in NA (unadjusted)
>>215153066>Anime having a resurgence in the westyou guys are so out of touch
>>215153284That doesn't negate what he said by only 22% of its gross coming from the US while the rest of its money comes from Asia. This movie was barely just a blip in the US outside the core fanbase and had a -75% drop in 2nd week, -59% drop in 3rd week and -50% drop in 4th week. Casual audiences never came or cared.
>>215145535The (((western))) gerontocracy has turned EVERYTHING into propaganda to feed the young to the old. Nips aren't on this bullshit yet.
>>215152985>FX and Trump cucked anime lol. You thinking that's a win is the funny part.You're never living down the 200 million Jeremy.
>>215153394>heYou>just a blip in the USIt did amazingly well as a foreign movie in the us. You putting its performance against national movies is proof enough.
it doesn't really mean much in any way for japan though
>>215145750The animation is hideous CG slop. Zoomers are so fucking cooked they literally have no frame of reference for animation that isn't awful
>>215153434You can’t refute anything he said. Don’t be salty.
>>215153409I didn't say I won. I'm still waiting for the end of this year before I make any final declarations. This movie still lost $70 million thanks to Trump demanding 100% tariffs and the FX, and the final numbers are only going to be lower. That's why you never jump to conclusion for a movie who made all of its revenue from Asia.Also, thanks for giving away it's you who makes these bait threads lol. Get a hobby, and tell your faggot friends from Discord to get a hobby too. Get into knitting, play an instrument, be more productive.>>215153434It has awful legs and is sustained by a very dedicated fanbase. And it was frontloaded, with the opening weekend representing over half of its US run. Anime fans are *extremely* good at showing up day 1. That makes for loud openings, but terrible longevity. It was nothing more but noise for casual audiences.
>>215153503Zoomers has been conditioned to suck down slop from birth
>>215145535>How did this happen?when you make every film a joyless gray lecture about patriarchy and racism with a picture so dark that you can't even see anything of course people are going to look for something light, colorful and flashy elsewhere. are you people stupid or something?
>>215145535Zootopia 2 will eclipses its entire run in a few weekends
>>215153534>It was nothing more but noise for casual audiences.that's everything in general what are you smoking.
>>215153503Nah, you're just a blind retard who gets triggered by any CG effects. They're one of the only studios that use CG to improve shit in stead of being cheap bastards. Ufotable has been kino since the KnK movies. nostalgia-fags who worship slideshow cells can cope harder.
>>215153534>I’m still waiting for the end of this year beforeI make any final declarationsIs this what you do with your time?
>>215153641Buy an ad
>>215147362This was my first anime. Dialogue is terrible. They have to spell out everything in real time but in a very stilted manner. The flashbacks were tonally jarring and ruined the pacing. The battle with the last demon was what an hour and half including his entire backstory? Mofo just wouldn't die either. I understand what they were trying to do but man it dragged. If that's what anime is then it just ain't for me. Visuals and soundtrack were amazing but the infinite castle stuff got a little old. Don't think I'll be watching 2 or 3
>>215153394fact-free post
>>215153605those fake ass liberal american animated slops will never be half as great as the works of studio ghibli box office doesn't mean shit people will forget about demon slayer in 5 years
>>215153727>Visuals and soundtrack were amazingzoomer nigger
>>215153364What is anime not having a resurgence.
>>215145535Japan has severely mentally regressed since the 90s and shonenshit really appeals to Indians and Chinese because they aren't actually people
>>215153870slopnime is having a slopsurgence in the west
I don't watch anime (or at least not anymore) but whenever I look a bit deeper at either japanese or chinese weeaboo shit I'm struck by how sincerely whimsical and fantasy it is. There's navel-gazing angsty japanese shit to be sure, but it'll be something whimsically fairytale like genshin's moon lullaby and while I guess thinking back to Lodoss War is just one anime for another, you still get the feeling that something likehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvF31-2bVNE&list=RDHvF31-2bVNE&start_radio=1From ~22 years ago is physically impossible for Westerners nowadays to produce. I am optimistic and I don't think it's impossible for them to want it or consume it - they just don't know to seek it out or demand it. But the popularity of anime and people enthusiastic for older untouched media shows people yearn for it.>>215147706The insidiousness of critical theory really just goes to the >criticalpart of it. It's always criticizing, always deconstructing, always trying to find something to decay and deface. It's negative nancy shit - simple as.>>215148335If I think to American stuff it seems like we generally always do either capeshit or dour and cynical: All sugar or all bitter, nothing in between. I really disliked Moorcock's writing but I still think you can compare his grimdark having some style or fashionability versus our GRRM grimdark being >Sunset found her squatting>The more she shat>The more she drank
>>215153900>slopnime islop havingslop aslop slopsurgence inslop theslop westslopFixed
>>215147112Good job triggering the worldies. >>215147326>>215147569>talking shit on LOTR >while sucking on J.K.’s cooch >implying harry potter isn’t formulaiclol way to announce yourselves a zoomers who grew up on memes. harry potter is the most forced jew hackery we have ever seen. there was a trillion dollar marketing machine behind it. flying on broomsticks? old halloween concept. shouting silly words while casting a spell with a wand? gosh how original! it’s a high school series highly predicated on teasing relationship stuff between the 3 lead characters. please please keep your commentary to shows where they go “OH NO HE HAS MASTERED THE SHURI SHURI WIND ENERGY TECHNIQUE!” because literature is reserved for people who have actually read a fucking book.
>>215153992thank you
>>215147362>battles are something out of a michael bay movieImpossible to tell what's going on due to the lack of focus, fast camera movement and bad effects? >>215150612What even is complex emotions?
Akaza did nothing wrong.
>>215153605Best of all, it's actually set to release in China and Russia, so $1 billion is very tangible. I actually expect it to cross $2 billion because China are crazy about Zootopia. They have an entire theme park dedicated just for it. With the US, it drops during Thanksgiving and movies get a huge boost during that holiday. So it beats its entire NA run in one weekend.
>>215153902Avatar is perhaps the only thing that comes close and that's based Jim so the exception rather than the rule.
>>215147108I think so, he was fairly generous in his ratings. The main thing I could see him being critical of is the repetitive use of tragic backstories for the demons.
>>215145680Good shounenslop
What is going on especially with Asian countries is a full on boycott of the US over Trump’s tariffs. China wants to one up US and is claiming some chink movie made almost two billion dollars. I don’t believe anything China claims. Japs been doing this even longer putting out their own shit right when big US movie is released
>>215153394>This movie was barely just a blip in the US outside the core fanbase and had a -75% drop in 2nd week, -59% drop in 3rd week and -50% drop in 4th weekHow many theatres were airing it for more than one weekend, Jeremy?
>>215154318>Set to release in RussiaAnd that matters why?
>>215145535>anime movie is one of highest grossing movies of 2025This isn't a mark of how successful the anime movie is, as much as steep the decline is for movies in general. Movies are making fractions of what they used to. No one cares any more. Covid killed theaters, and Marvel/Star Wars and other blockbusters shit the bed. The industry is in total collapse. Being successful in 2025 is basically just big fish in small pond at this point. Doesn't really mean much.
>>215145622Gems like Puss in Boots still happen
>>215145535And this is the 1st out of 3 movies of Infinity Castle
>>215154522Is it going to be 2027 for the finale?
>>215154448That doesn't mean anything when the movie has poor audience retention and the opening weekend represents over half of its entire US run. Casual audiences never came and they never cared for this movie. It's entirely fan driven.>>215154450Because the first Zootopia movie made almost $40 million in that country. Outside of China, it was the second biggest market followed by the UK.
>>215154354Do you mean blue cats avatar or bald anime kid avatar? Either one of those and you've got a good point.
>>215145715In compared to Pixar's Elio, or Hollywood slop like One Battle After Another- yes.
>>215154587I was initially thinking ATLA but then realised that it also applied to blue cats and that Jim is still making a positive contribution unlike Bryan and Mike.
>>215154609>Implying Demon slayer isn't Japanese slop
>>215154609>capeshit:|>japanese capeshit:O
>>215154488Wrong. Its entire business model is shifting to steaming. Covid just accelerated it by 15 years. Old model of what is considered a success is going out the window. Like music was judged on how many records you sold. Not anymore. Problem with so called box office nerd experts is steaming success and profits is hard to track besides all insider knowledge
>>215145535import trannyfuel -> tranny epidemic -> more tranny fuelit's a vicious cycle
>>215154445Everyone's just tired of Hollywood capeslop, everything else performed fine. The 2010s China bump was always temporary so China could rip off what local audiences liked
