Didn't he kidnap people and put them in deadly traps? How does that make any sense?
what are the charges officer?
>>215150721He gave them a choice. It's their fault they died
>>215150721These movies are so retarded.>you smoke cigarettes therefore I am going to lock you in a cartoonish contraption that will most likely burn you alive.
>>215150739>damn, you're right*uncuffs jigsaw*>sorry, dude, he's right, it's your choice if you live or die*walks away, leaving man strapped to Dickripper 3000 to fend for himself*
>>215150826You are forgetting that he is supposed to be insane sociopath. It makes sense to him. From writing standpoint it's completely okay.>oh, you are a grieving father who lost his child?>time to die
There is really just no one like him.
>>215150924I bet they kick themselves for not using him more.
>>215150739Reddit.
>>215150962Yeah imagine have an ace in your hand but you are just too dumb to see.
>looks for logic in horrorshit
>>215150826the most retarded part is when he doesn't stick to his own code of giving them a choice, and puts them in situations where their life is not in the victim's control.
>>215150721I've only seen the first movie but this shit makes me laugh. Does he actually say this shit?
>>215151406Notably there is this guy in second or third movie who was put in a trap, but he never got any choice, he was unconscious the whole time and then he was just killed in his sleep.
Look, I just kidnapped him and told him he's only getting out after he plays six rounds of Russian Roulette. It's not my fault that he died.
>>215150962Best horror icon.
>>215151577He made a choice by sleeping. Sleep your whole life away and it slips by.
>>215152520That is actually pretty profound.
>>215151577That's the first movie ain't it? Chick digs the key to the reverse beartrap outta him.
>>215150739Murdering a police officer with a booby trap shotgun and attempted murder of officer Danny Glover when you sliced his neck open
>>215150721The logic is that all his traps were escapable if the person removed their psychological limiter and truly did everything they could to live.
>>215150962What? The entire reason it all goes to shit after 3 is because the studio has to desperately pull all sorts of things out of their ass to keep Jiggy appearing in every film after because he's the main draw.They also fell too hard into the slasher idea of "the iconic villain is the main character" that they revise him into being this "grey" anti-hero instead of the unhinged psycho he clearly is in 1-3
>>215152813That was Zep
>>215150721He placed people in life affirming situations. You can't blame a fitness coach for putting someone on a treadmill anon.
>>215151477He does https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ONb8flonYQ
>>215150721>Didn't he kidnap people and put them in deadly traps?That wouldn't hold up in court. They'd be forced to apologise and let him go free
>>215150721There are several traps he makes where there is no choice involved and someone has to die.Like the one where the druggy woman has to dig a key out of someone or the bear trap rips her head to pieces. The other guys has no choice in this, and someone has to die. If the druggy does nothing, the trap kills her, if she wants the key, she has to kill the guy the key is inside of.No matter how you look at it, that's a bullshit situation for the guy with a key in him to be in.
>>215152520Lmao
>Buttfuck insane serial killer says thing>Thing must be true
>>215151406WHAT LE HECK ??? Are you telling me the crazy brain cancer guy doesn't have a consistent belief system I AM GOING HECKLIN INSANE, are you telling me that people sometimes... ca be hypocritical and don't abide by their own values LE FRIG????? This is heckinly badly written
>>215152520kek based jiggy
>>215150721As a former supreme court judge it's scary to think there are still people who think Jigsaw could possibly be put on trial for anything.
>>215154740As a man who once asked out a girl who went on to become a lawyer(she said no) I concur
>>215150721>Didn't he kidnap people and put them in deadly traps?unless there's a law against that it's not illegal
>>215152938Tobin Bell is their best asset along with Charlie Clouser and (arguably) Costas Mandylor. The flashbacks were kino and made Jigsaw really likeable. >That time he was about to throw down with a knife-wielding junkie
He's innocent, there are no live witnesses to testify against him.My dad's a judge (you can find him in the phone book). It's an open and shut case as airtight as DAP.Dr. Jigsaw walks away with scotch for free any way you look at it
this is worse than anime
>>215154740former Texas state supreme court justice here, i have to agree with this judge. at MOST you might be able to dig up some files for tax evasion when it comes to construction and purchases at his locations. the truth is when those 'traps' hurt people, he wasn't involved, the parties who were injured made a choice to participate in the 'games' and thusly waived their rights to reparations resulting from bodily harm.
>>215155064Personal injury lawyer here. Did he get his participants to sign a waiver form in the event of injury?Because if not, there is a strong case against him and it's likely every person that was injured due to his direct or indirect actions could sue him for multiple millions of dollars.
>>215155197>>215155064Former as well current DA here. Basically yes, you *could* try and get him for tax evasion which is typically our go-to, but realistically those types of guys are too ordered and "clean" to have anything on them like that.As far as waivers go, you'd have trouble proving they *didn't* sign a waiver that was later lost by mr. Jigsaw's employees due to negligence but by then all of the "employees" would be gone so you'd in effect be suing a ghost.
>>215151406Jigsaw's "Code" wasn't really established in 1-3In 1-3 it's a different character, who kills more arbitrarily, commits multiple child kidnappings, creates unfair games, saves and kills on a whim.
former president of the united states here - he'll walk free the same day they catch him
which state did jigsaw operate in? depending on which one, castle doctrine could have his self defense case shut and closed within two hearings
>>215155830forgot to add: because I will personally pardon him on account of being based- D. Trump
Was the detective lady naked in the angel trap?
>>215153403My dad is a police detective with 20 years experience and he said unless they found his DNA on the traps the case would fall apart and they couldn't prove it wasn't someone else or the victims lying.
>>215155197well that's quite simple. look at 'The State of Massachusettes vs. Robert Ettin Smith 2019', the state argued waivers were needed in the case of devices causing injury to a participant, but a jury went 9-3 in favor of his innocence, no DA will touch this case
My dads sisters friend is a cleaner for the united states courts and overheard the DA say they couldnt charge jigsaw with anything other than j walking.
>>215155879The state doesn't matter because it wasn't even his building so sqautter's rights overrule anyway.
Is anyone else really sensitive and can't watch gore movies because it gives you PTSD?
>>215156678Yeah sometimes.
>>215150739Conspiracy to murder
>>215157099he didn't murder anyone or even attempt/plan to
>>215150739>what are the charges officer?Nuremberg went over all this
Future Emperor of Mankind remote channeling here, Jigsaw is under our protection.
former prime minister of Israel here, the law will not touch him ever
>>215150721Jigsaw is the Worst Horror Movie Villain of All Time.
>>215158149that's what's crazy though, he isn't a villian
>>215157125Yes he did. You're retarded
>>215150721Mental gymnastics is a white trait
>>215158374Shut the fuck up
>>215158398>>215158413the funny part is anons can never actually say what he did that was illegal, meanwhile we have actual lawyers and judges explaining why he's innocent
>>215158411>I aint got mai eyedee on me, I leff it a' home>This ain't mai cor, this mai cuzins cor>No I ain't steppin out the cor, I don't feel safeCome on now
>>215158411(You) too, coloured one.
>>215158439Kidnapping is illegal. Conspiracy to commit murder is illegal. Manslaughter is illegal. First degree murder (with all the planning) is illegal. You're a mega retarded Redditor who needs to go back.
>>215158439Where are these lawyers, retard-kun? I'm sure they're real lawyers and not eceleb larping lawyers
>>215158374>he isn't a villianAnd this exactly why he is the WOAT of Horror Movie Villains. Truly amazing!
>wtf the insane psycho said he wasnt insane?????????????????????????
God I unironically want Saw courtroom film
>>215150739We're not arresting you. We're just putting you in this jail cell where you will die of cancer unless you cut your arms off with this sponge. Live or die make your choice.
>>215158689i'll live, walk out of here and bang a prostitute thanks. damn, hard fucking decision you put me in there.
>>215150739>all he does is lock people in contraptions designed to pit their moral fortitude against their will to live>damn okay let him go
>>215156457>overheard the DA say they couldnt charge jigsaw with anything other than j walking.Exactly and it's actually very common. They call this situation jig walking
>>215158623it would be very similar to the Usual Suspects with the same ending.
>>215158476>Kidnapping is illegal.Proof they were kidnapped and not got there on their own volition?>Conspiracy to commit murder is illegal. There's no conspiracy, schizo. He's literally rooting for them to survive.>Manslaughter is illegal. Nobody is slaughtered aside from people who made a choice to die.>First degree murder (with all the planning) is illegal. The only thing that was planned is a fortitude test designed to make them extract a moral lesson (which is good).>You're a mega retarded Redditor who needs to go back.Seems like you just copy pasted a bunch of legal "smart" terms you heard without actually thinking any of it through, which makes you very reddit.
>>215150721>dude you gotta watch Sah!>its totally about the legalities of kidnapping and murderBORING
>>215150721He didn't do anything. He listened and that's what no one did.
>>215150739 Likely Criminal Charges Against Jigsaw1. Murder & Homicide First-degree murder: Even if victims technically kill themselves in traps, Jigsaw knowingly creates situations designed to cause death. Courts would treat this as premeditated murder. Felony murder rule: In many jurisdictions, if someone dies during the commission of a felony (like kidnapping or torture), the perpetrator is guilty of murder regardless of intent.2. Attempted Murder For survivors of traps (e.g., Amanda Young before she became his apprentice, or Dr. Gordon), Jigsaw would face multiple counts of attempted murder.3. Kidnapping & False Imprisonment Abducting victims and restraining them in locked rooms, chains, or devices is textbook kidnapping. Even when victims aren’t killed, unlawful confinement = false imprisonment.4. Torture & Aggravated Assault The traps involve extreme physical and psychological torment. Charges: torture, mayhem (causing permanent disfigurement), and aggravated assault with a deadly weapon.5. Conspiracy & Accomplice Liability Jigsaw recruits apprentices (Amanda, Hoffman, Logan, Gordon). He’d face conspiracy to commit murder, aiding and abetting, and RICO charges (organized crime statutes) for running a criminal enterprise.6. Terrorism / Domestic Terrorism His crimes are ideologically motivated (“teaching people to value life”) and designed to instill fear in the public. Prosecutors could pursue domestic terrorism charges.7. Desecration of Corpses & Abuse of a Body Many traps involve mutilation of corpses or staging bodies as part of his “games.”8. Obstruction of Justice Targeting police officers (Detective Matthews, Detective Kerry, etc.) and interfering with investigations would add obstruction and contempt of court charges.
>>215160918 Realistic OutcomeIf Jigsaw were ever caught and tried: He’d face hundreds of counts of murder, attempted murder, kidnapping, and torture. Multiple life sentences without parole, or the death penalty in jurisdictions that allow it. His apprentices would also face similar charges, though some (like Dr. Gordon) might argue coercion.
The only question that matters is which execution method to use for Jigsaw. These are the civilized methods.
>>215150721All it needed is one pawn to sacrifice himself and not obeying him to break the chain of idiotic schemes.
>>215150781Sure. Just cut off your legs yourself with no anesthetic and we may be able to save you.You apologists are just edgy trolls. You don't for one moment believe that "he did nothing wrong".
>>215153680>le>heck>heckinYou need to go back and then kill yourself, faggot.
>>215150721What if you raped him? Would that fix him?
>>215153403excuse me, did jiggy kill the guy to get the key? no? it was the crazy drug addict? let him go, officers
>>215150739I remember getting baited into seriously answering this in 2018
>>215160918What is the value of coming onto a forum to have a conversation and posting an AI summary?Do you think we are here for a fucking corporate answer to the topic at hand? We are using it as a jumping off point to express our enjoyment or hatred of a series.Do you actually like the Saw series or did you just want to give the "correct" answer?
is that JigC? What concept are they funding now?
>>215161207Damn, 4chan really works like that?? Just execute jigsaw, what is there to talk about.
>>215161276baskin roberts
>>215161480You're not wrong.
>>215159988>Proof they were kidnapped and not got there on their own volition?The victims' testimonies and all the massive evidence he left behind (forensic and otherwise) would easily prove this.>There's no conspiracy, schizo. He's literally rooting for them to survive.Regardless of who he is "rooting for," he is forcibly putting his victims into a scenario where death is a highly likely outcome, especially the timed traps, where death is the default outcome.>Nobody is slaughtered aside from people who made a choice to die.The victims did not "choose to die," but were rather overcome, by pain, fear, etc. and were unable to complete the trial to save their lives. Other times, they simply made a mistake and it killed them or someone else by accident. Still lethal traps, still first degree murder. >The only thing that was planned is a fortitude test designed to make them extract a moral lesson (which is good).Extracting some kind of vague and minor moral lesson by forcibly placing people deadly situations is neither legal nor ethical whatsoever. Taking a philosophy course would be less deadly, less traumatic, and you'd learn much more. In addition, how are those that died supposed to learn anything from their mistakes?
Someone asked the question, he gave the answer using AI as a tool. Deal with it asshat.
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