shansha...
PLEASHE- *ACK*
Bane?
>>215158989so why does the whole winterfell community just believe that bran became an all-seeing superconputer
>most conniving and a contender for the smartest character in the show>make him a complete retard so you can kill him off because you don't know how to resolve his arc
>>215158989>Pleash Shansha, jush a crumb...
Milo?
>>215159327>the whole winterfell communityThe writers just kind of forgot they exist. Sansa, Arya, Brienne, and that potato from The Last of Us are the only ones that matter
>>215159327I mean, Winterfell was Stark home turf. They're cuddly and beloved in Ned's time, but even going back centuries, they're generally regarded as tough but fair and honorable. It's not hard to believe that the local peasants and even nobles would just accept a strong declaration from a Stark like that. Even those that are a little more skeptical are likely to want the Starks back, so they'd be likely to go along with the politics of it even if they don't believe the magical shit.Earlier seasons and the books would have explored all of this nuance, but by the last seasons, the writers just kind of forgot about nuance.
>>215159223And the mask, I suppose it’s off the table as well.
>>215158989>nobles of da norf actually follow the Boltons and fight against Stannis or the StarksWho is expected to believe such nonsense
>>215159426>Ok GRRM, you promised us you'd put out the next book and an ending. It's been eight years and nothing. We waited for you and you left us hanging, man. We're not gonna even try to give your characters good endings. We're going to make them all stupid because this show is so big it doesn't matter. But this is your legacy now. This is what you made us do.I say it was pretty based of D&D to shit all over GRRM like that
>>215159715Fat cunt deserves it
>>215159715Out of the principle actors that destroyed the franchise, D&D are probably the least culpable. The last seasons sucked, but they didn't sign up for that shit. They were asked to finish the story that the fat retard who started it hasn't been able to finish in like 30 years. They ended the narrative, fulfilled the letter of what they were asked to do, and gtfo for greener pastures. I wish the end was better but I get their position.
>>215159715They could have come up with a better anime original endingGo complete retard and have them fight the IRL nazis like fma 2003
>>215159867Oh fuck off, those greedy kikes were in a rush to gobble up star wars money, nevermind the fatman failing to deliver.
An easy fix to Littlefinger's death scene:>Littlefinger demands a trial by combat>Nobody in the room is willing to defend him, not even for money.>Littlefinger is forced to represent himself and diesNo matter how good you are at scheming, a gigachad like Brandon can just dunk your head into the toilet and give you a swirly.
>>215159327the rape, salsa...
>>215160275>you should moan more>make an effort next time ok>don't be so lazyJFC bran
>>215158989>shanshathe rape...
>>215158989>Lady Shansha, I believe you lied under oath when you said your aunt Lysa jumped through the Moon door? Does this not matter?>Ah, I shuppoze we are taking a crippled boy's dreams as facts, then? Should all trials be settled this way?>Do great deeds not weigh in on my innocence? Saving you from the Lannisters, returning you to your seat in Winterfell, saving your brother and bringing the Vale into your service. A fair trial is the least you can offer me.>No? Very well. I shall demand trial by combat.>Not even that? Fine, then the Night's Watch will serve me well enough, with the dead on the way you need every man you can spare.>You wish to kill me right here? Are you forgetting about the gods? You cannot kill a guest under your roof, you'd be no better than your family's killers.>You don't care about that? Very well, but you are a Stark, my lady. I shall not accept accept your sentence if you are not the one to look me in the eye and take my life yourself.>Or, whatever, just have the goblin bitch mutilate my throat with my dagger. Then burn my body.>Or just leave my corpse on the floor. I shuppoze that would be acceptable as well.
>>215158989>no no little finger should die by Sansa. He shouldn't win the iron throne because he's mean. Little finger isn't even the smartest character in Game of Thrones. Tyrion is so much smarter
>>215159327we, uh just kind of forgot to learn how to write
>>215160048They wanted to leave cause HBO forced them into write a feminist power fantasy during 6 and they were too based to write a show without sex and female empowerment.
>>215159426they made him a retard in season 1, somehow showfags didnt noticehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=489a-bzKhgc
>>215158989>Lord Shtark, I'm Shmall Council>Uh, you don't get to bring Hedge Knightsh
>>215159867>>215159715you guys are retards, grrm gave them the outline and was on call for more guidance they refused to ask him anything and cut core elements of the series like faegon and virtually all magic. Not to mention entire character arcs and regions of the world.HBO & GRRM wanted like 14 seasons and yet D&D basically did 1 book to a season even though every book gets longer than the last. Season 5 for example is Dance and feast which is 2000+ pages in one season where as season 1 is 800 pages AGoT and those 2000 pages expand the story to Dorne and various parts of Essos Tyrion travels to plus a fuckton of new minor characters meaning you could expand it even more with subplots.
>>215162174GRRM himself doesn't know what the fuck happens. You think they can just call him up and get an exact guideline on what happens? If that were the case why hasn't he just written himself? Because he can't or won't. Either way the showrunners were given an impossible task they didn't sign up for.
>>215162315>impossibleNigger he literally told them how it ends. There are a dozen ways they could’ve made it make sense and less embarrassing but they went with the most retarded route possible.
>>215162359Then why hasn't the fat fuck ended it? A Dance with Dragons came out over 14 years ago.
>>215162315So what are you saying? That they couldn’t write anything decent without George holding their hands every step of the way? I thought D&D were professional writers?
>>215158989He didn't climb (the laddah) so good!
>>215159327now that i think about it, its very odd that no other skinchangers or other old gods powers awakened in the north, once the dragons/comet came back. only the important house got it which is pretty funny. they are not the only house with that kind of blood. although i do enjoy the theory that the mormont women actually do change into bears and its not a metaphor.
>>215162547>professional writers?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hF-2vXrlvRs
>>215158989GoT wasnt always shit. There were times when it was good.
>>215162174I don't have sympathy for either D&D or GRRM. DD signed up to frontrun a series that didn't have an ending and GRRM clearly wasn't driven enough to keep the foot on the gas and get it done.>Inb4 well Rowling and the HP directors signed up not knowing it was completed At least Rowling was about a book or two ahead of the movies if I remember correctly. Even if George's ending left a lot to be desired there was at least enough meat on the bone leading up to the last season for D&D to fix it or they could of done the ending of The Others winning then point to George saying "This isn't the real ending but if you want the real ending go see George." Personally I always wanted the Others to win.
>>215162174GRRM himself gave them a very loose outline of where major characters ended up with no explanation as to what would happen between there and where they left off in the books because he himself doesn't know what happens and that's why he stopped writing them. D&D had to bridge the gap in a limited number of episodes because 1) they had the actors signed for eight seasons and couldn't guarantee they'd all be willing to stay after that, if any one of the leads decided to leave they would have been fucked and 2) the 4th and 5th books are giant meandering time-killing messes that set up a bunch of brand new plotlines that have unclear paths forward, which the show couldn't afford to waste limited run time onD&D did an absolutely terrible job filling in the blanks but they didn't have any choice. Meanwhile GRRM's approach is to do nothing at all, which is worse. (He also gave the rights to D&D in the first place which anyone who looked at their resumes could have said was a bad idea)
>>215162679there is show jojen before they comically blow him up, also orell the eagle guy is in the show. But yeah did d&d didnt even explicitly make any other starks but bran wargs did they?
>>215159704the level of them rolling over is actually insane. roose or ramsey had some noble northern woman locked in a room starving to death and she tried eating her own fingers before dying. the response to this is just seething with no action.yes, they are rebelling now, yes there's the epic manderlies and the serial killer of bolton shits. but it takes stannis showing up for any of the other houses to do anything.
>>215162722S3 and S4 is ultimately where the show peaked in both cinematography and tone. The oppressively bleak tragedy vibe of the show was excellent.
>>215159426The only unbelievable part was it didn't happen a lot sooner. He's such an insanely obvious scheming vizier type, even if all you know is his public biography.
>>215162755well the reeds have always been magic but yeah they would have gotten a power boost. jojen sounds fairly weak compared to his father actually. i do like the idea that ned could have been a warg but he was too old by the time that magic came back. would have been interesting to see his autistic ass going into a direwolf.
Why would everyone just be cool with someone getting murdered without a trial? I thought Starks and their allies are all about fairness
>>215162795Yes but Show Littlefinger is completely different from the book one. Baelish is much too obviously scheming in the show whereas in the books he shows himself more as an indispensable servant. In the show everyone knows not to trust him completely but he's useful so they try to keep him on a short leash as they know he's a ladder climber but he does his part to keep himself small.
>>215158989Uh oh stinky!!!
>>215162847Genuinely have no fucking clue why this plotline was changed it was super easy to simplify but then I guess you don't get Sansa seeing Theon, Brianne and Jon as early.
>>215162741bro are you retarded? GRRM has always had a plot outline. He decided not to do a timeskip which is why we got the change to 7 books and the giant split 4th book and why he slowed/stopped writing, he expanded the scope too much and lost motivation after the show ruined a lot of moments (also proving D&D had a detailed outline btw). Actors can always be recast and likewise D&D could have just left the show they weren't obligated to finish it. D&D did have a choice btw they could have asked GRRM or even had him write more episodes or show centric outlines. The reality is they were self admittedly incompetent and disinterested in the show and only gave themselves the goal to make it to the red wedding.
>>215162799we could have gotten a live action Euron warging a kraken and destroying 2 opposing fleets and instead we got a retard version of jack sparrow
>>215162837The thing where nobody noticed he got richer as the kingdom got more in debt is from the books, and is totally absurd, as is the way he survives Lysa's "mysterious" death.
>>215158989What makes this so embarassing is that he could have tried like ten different fucking things to get out of it. Appeal directly to Sansa. No? Okay, appeal to the crowd, this chick is hysterical and also a known liar. Okay, that didn't work, trial by combat, demand a trial by combat you'll hire some mercenary from the other side of the planet.Anything EXCEPT what he did would've had at least a bare chance of getting him out of this alive.
>>215162974finger in da bum. yeah a kraken would be so sick.
>>215159327
>>215159867>D&D are probably the least culpable.
>>215159867>>215159715Retards who never read the books. they cut 90% of the last books available from the show. they had already changed the story before george stopped writing, and it couldn't be fixed. when they called george to ask how to fix it, he had to basically give them his ending, but how can it possibly lead to the correct ending if d&d stopped following the material? grrm gets the blame from book fans, but show fans thinking its his fault are literal retards. go read these books and see just how many characters are missing from the show.
>>215162847How did The Eyrie join with them in the show?
>>215162547>I thought D&D were professional writers?Dumb is a Jewish nepobabby, his dad was a millionaire Wall Street investment banker and he brought his buddy Dumber into the deal.For them, this was no different then investing in a conventional property.
aarrggggg
>>215163363LF just kinda told robyn to do it or something? actually i dont think they even brought up how LF just did it in between teleports
>>215162096>I did warn you not to trusht me.
>>215163215This makes a lot of sense.
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>>215163363She sent a telegram to them and they showed up, I guess because Petyr convinced them that protecting Robin's cousin was important. Probably one of the least baffling things that happens desu (aside from the fact that they arrive at the very last second to save the day again just like the Tullys at Blackwater and Stannis at the wall)
