>>215161593>this is not art>but it will be the death of art>because it is not artNice
>>215161593>semitic seething intensifies We're right above target
We’ve already established that slick, glossy AI has no appeal but choppy, absurdist AI humor can fit into web culture.
>>215161593matt walsh with a surprisingly good take for once
>>215161593George NO!
>>215161593pshh pshhh go back to work matt walsh go back to work do not criticize is ray el yes ben shapiro yes saar
>>21516159390% of film made by human are souless
>>215161593>even chuds are turning on ai nowya love to see it
>>215161593Miller hasn't made anything of note in years, he's completely washed. Michael Bay, a true artist and auteur, has already debunked AI slop.
>>215161593what if your prompt is an articulation of your feelings, and the AI is simply depicting the prompt?
>>215161593Since when did matt walsh give a shit about liberal "soul" and cinema slop? Oh wait he's a Jew worshiper of course.
>>215161593I am constantly looking for sci fi and alien movies and rarely do any good movies get made since hollywood jews have been shilling cape shit instead.Even when a good sci fi premise is made its often mixed in with some shitty romance sub plot.Look at arrival, top tier first contact movie shoved in with some dead baby shit as an example.Give me AI so I can make a kino of my own with prompts and i will be much more entertained than the cancer the hollywood jew makes.
>>215161687AI is the only thing that’s been able to make me laugh in years, surprisingly >>215161593>meanwhile artists: (I just think this looks good but idk I’ll just tell people it’s symbolic if they ask)
>>215161593I take AI over any woke slop
>you're not a director if you had someone else operate the camera
>>215161749Basically, he's right. If its not somewhere in the training data then its not coming out. AI just mashes what exists, maybe good enough for generic popcorn slop but will never be at the limits of innovation. It can replace Bay though. Probably Matt Walsh too since hes a generic boomer
People forget that Walsh is a successful filmmaker himselfAI couldn't capture the soul of kino like his
>>21516173099% nowaday btw
The only people that will get replaced by AI are the ones that had no real merit to begin with, and that's why there are so many angry people.Also making fake things ubiquitous just makes real things more valuable.
I'm here for the cognitive dissonance from people who hate AI but suck this boomer's dick>People will tell AI "make a movie in the style of James Cameron, make a movie in the style of Zack Snyder." But "Make a movie in the style of Ridley Scott, or make a movie in the style of Stanley Kubrick," that's always been the prompt that goes on inside my own head.>Cameron is on the board of directors at AI company Stable Diffusion
>>215161687I like AI body horror
>>215161593First time I've seen a MIGAoid be anti-AI. Usually these fags lap that shit up.
>>215161852Might actually be good. Not needing to appeal to the lowest common denominator might mean movies can be told at a higher level. It might make the artists go up their own ass more, but it also means more decent work? Hopefully
2024 and 2025 even moreso have been truly abysmal for film. The good movies are just alright; we're definitely past the point of masterpieces being created.In other words, have AI take over because it's at least improving, unlike hollywood which is just decaying.
>>215161879You are either brown or a fat woman so why would I care?
>MUH ART MUH SOULI do not give a fuck. Not a single solitary shit. I just want to see MLK in Family Guy
>soulless art is not artexactly, but does he think the vast majority of the stuff being currently produced by Hollywood is art?If AI slop looks cooler and more entertaining than Hollywood slop, I'll watch the former, even if it's made by a machine.
>>215161977YawnAnything new?
>>215161749>Dumbass boomer who never made a single fucking noteworthy thing with artistic merit preaches to the choir for Reddit brownie points and X points and 4chan YAAAAASSS (You)'s and is scared of being replaced thus losing his cashcowReal artists like Lynch embraced AITRVTH NVKE
>>215161593This is like the same arguments people made about machines and cars.The car will never replace the horse!
>>215162190and this is the part where people ignore that cars were hand cranked in those days and pretend our forefathers had Challengers with V8s from the get go so the replacement made le perfect sense
>>215161593Quantify soulless or admit your argument is based on feefees
>>215162254>feelings…bad!ok NPC
>>215161593>>215161695>>215161835What is soul
I'm not pro-AI, I just want hollywood to fall
>>215161749michael bay is basically an LLM so he knows what he is talking about
>>215161593>Fatt Walsh betting against MillerMiller is right. AI has the ability to democratize filmmaking, making story the center of the art.
>>215162158There is a difference between using AI as a TOOL like David Lynch says here and outright making an entire movie using AI prompts and stitching together the clips. The former is useful for brainstorming ideas, creating concept art, editorial practices, etc. The latter is inhuman worthless slop with no effort. And guess what, the average goycattle retard (including most /tv/ users) support the latter instead of the former because they don't have the creative capacity to even use AI as a helper. People are so devoid of will today they just don't want to do anything at all. That's the real crisis that emerges from AI, an increasing loss of will that translates into a competency crisis, decline in fertility and literacy, etc.
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>>215161730Thats because theyre films by committee. May as well be AI.
>>215161749Is AI even capable of making anything as bad and soulless as the script for a Transformers movie?
>>215162293>he thinks the democratization of art is a good thing>he thinks storytelling will somehow be advanced by stripping away all thought and just using technical means for production/tv/ is utterly pathetic and knows nothing about art at all
Since the 60s we were forced to accept that completely blank canvases, Campbell's soup cans and a banana taped to a wall are all art. If they are art, then anything a human uses an AI to make is art, as the human would have as much input as they would making some prestige contemporary gallery piece that is a pile of beans that is a metaphor for sexual assault or something
>>215161593When I use AI, I just ask AI questions and read the answers that it compiles. It's sort of like Wikipedia in a way, but sources compiled and generated by AI. I don't ask AI to make Art or movies or anything of that sort. In fact, I just opened Tubi and went through their catalogue of films, new and old, that they have at the moment. I plan on watching a few of them, especially the horror films, since it is October. Tubi has some zombie films(Night of the Liing Dead, Day of the Dead, Return of the Living Dead 2,3 and Necropolis) and John Carpenter(Vampires, in the Mouth of Madness) films at the moment. They even have Dagon and 30 Days of Night.Earlier today, I asked AI about how the Byzantine-Romans were freeing Christians who were enslaved by Muslims. I also asked AI to generate a list of Horror and Gothic stories written before 1925 so that I have something other than H.P. Lovecraft to read this October. AI is good for asking about fiction books and can also list sources or books about history. No need to ask AI to create stories or make AI Art when there is an abundance of that stuff still around.
>>215162332Fuck off with your strawmanning faggotry.Someone with a script and no funds can make a movie and you can't stop them you gigantic horse's ass
>>215161593>REEEE NO SOULThen I guess I’m a soulles husk because I don’t fucking care.>>215161861This applies even more strongly to AAA vidya.
>>215162309>There is a difference between using AI as a TOOL like David Lynch says here and outright making an entire movie using AI promptsStop playing Jewish word games. I'm not even going to continue because it's apparent to anyone without a hateboner for AI that Lynch was all for it. He was obviously still alive when image and video gen was around and wasn't senile which is why he brought up the phone to pencil comparison
>>215162332Gatekeeping homo jew
>>215161593Why does everyone pretend like we're actually going to invent Skynet? It's fairly obvious that AI is going to hit a ceiling in the next few years and all that it'll be able to do is generate movies. Then the bubble will pop and we get a huge recession considering these bullshit tech companies are the driving force of the global economy right now. The pinnacle of this technology will be creating an Attack of the 50 Foot Woman giantess porn remake with Jenna Ortega while you use ChatGPT to write your work emails. sorry to break it to you
wack
>>215161695Not sure if leftoid or groyper....
>>215162394Congrats, you can "make" a dogshit movie with minimal effort that no one will watch. Might as well devote your life to painting a masterpiece portrait by hand that no one will see. Art is useless if it's not public, if it makes no impact on anyone or any culture. That's the whole appeal of going to the movies, reading classic books and watching the best films, etc. And I guarantee whatever slop that Google helps create for you won't be worth anything
>>215162452>Art is useless if it's not public, if it makes no impact on anyone or any culture.This is the faggiest thing I've ever read
>>215162452Sounds like you failed at life and are a bitter little faggot lol
>>215161593Remembered that Erasmus from the Dune prequels tried to make Art. So I asked AI about it.
>>215161621>Kike Walsh>celeblmao
>>215162539Freaking hell.
>>215162491>>215162524AI leads to automation. Automation leads to the end of culture, borders, unique identity, etc. Those things lead to communism. All AI jeets are literally communists who don't realize it.
>>215162568AhahahaHope to see your sorry ass in the gulag then, comrade
>>215161593Shit take from Walsh. If I write a script then prompt an AI how to generate and render it, that absolutely is art. Its like saying photos arent art because the machine generates them.
>>215161593matt walsh is such a performative faggotart will never die because humans always want to fuckand art is a way to build up your fuck valuesimple as
>>215162244It's funny that you think you made some kind of rebuttal. Even the most rudimentary version of the car replaced the horse as you just pointed out.
>>215162649Except it took decades for automobiles to effectively replace horses due to numerous factors. I think you're just dumb bro?
>>215161695He forgot to mention that corporate checklists and focus groups are soulless and that's where AI is learning how to make films in the first place.
>>215162629>If I write a scriptYou won't.
>>215161593Retarded grifter.
>>215161593If someone made a movie out of prompting he would be sifting through thousands of possible shots and discarding most. Individuality and creativity would come through in that process.There would be an ocean of shit, but there is no reason someone couldn't make something great.
>>215162452>Might as well devote your life to painting a masterpiece portrait by hand that no one will see. Art is useless if it's not publicHard disagree. The point of the artistic process is that you get a kick out of creating. Fuck all those people who aren't worthy of seeing or hearing my result. If you create to share with others, then you're a fucking narcissist who seeks validation. I've been making my music for two decades by now because I enjoy the process, any other reason for creating is inherently sinful.
>>215162709This is why a lot of AI sloppa has a piss filter now. So much of the Ghibli shit got fed back into it that it tainted the whole thing.
>>215162394>Someone with a script and no funds can make a movieNobody is going to watch his AI movie, they're just going to ask for the prompt so they can make their own version with the same button press.
>>215161593Based Miller.
The videogame The Movies came out in 2005 or 2006 and somehow it wasn't the death of filmmaking, even though anyone could create movies on his own computer now.
For an AI slop thread there's like only 2 AI slips in this whole thread... Is that the best we can do as 4chan these days?
>>215162539>the Dune prequelsRemove yourself.
>>215162873No, the piss filter is simply because it's how ChatGPT/Sora generates.
>>215161635now you understand the argument about why trannies are women
Now is a good time to start redpilling normalfags about ALADDIN, the "Asset, Liability, Debt and Derivative Investment Network."
>>215162717>Except it took decades for automobiles to effectively replace horsesNo it didn't.
>>215163072>>215162709>>215162430Why the fuck are you less sentient than a GPT prompt? All you ever do is spam one word and dump the same gay ass folderI know that of course this is the part where you absolutely btfo me by really switching things up and making the exact same godamn post again, but honestly the last thing this shithole board needs is ANOTHER boring fucking ritual posting asshole like the Sarah Gadon guy or the ice cream guy, just shut the fuck up dude
>>215161593getting exactly what you desire is never good for art. lotharios don't write love songs
>>215163143>das right niggas roads built for cars just magically popped up out of nowhere i aint bullshittin ya and people could afford $2000 jalopys >Posts a model from the 20s proving my pointPoint is AI is only a few years old, cars were introduced in the 1890s and were initially seen as a novelty luxury item.
>>215161593What is an AI?
AI is useful for creating concept art, but isung it to create actual stuff just creates slop. There's no craft and no effort.
>a prompt isn't filmmakingYou can prompt one thing at a time and combine them later if you need to have cumbersome effort in your definition of art. The value of sucking insider cock is still going to zero.
AI is the Antichrist. I tried using it and I just felt disgusted with myself. There's something about this technology that just feels unnatural. The images look uncanny but not in an obvious way. There's just a lack of soul to it. I don't think we're used to seeing this kind of imagery.
AI won.
>>215161593I thought this guy was based and redpilled when did he turn into a retarded faggot?
>>215163616This is gonna piss his fans off because he was peak sovl or something but the one thing I felt the instant I started seeing AI generated pictures was that they somehow look like the pictures David Dees used to makeAnd that was a very specific feeling because fucking nothing looks like the pictures David Dees used to make
>>215163333They used the same excuse for Google Stadia, or VR glasses. Or NFTs. Problem is the whole AI is a marketing buzzword. LLM is not AI in any way, its a glorified search engine. Its as intelligent as you pushing Ctrl+F on your keyboard when you're looking for (You)s
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>>215163616>I don't think we're used to seeing this kind of imagery.We aren't, but kids who are 15 have seen this kind of imagery for essentially their entire life, starting with how smartphones started to process photos almost 10 years ago already.You look at "4K remasters" of James Cameron's movies and they look unnatural to you, but they look Just Fine to the upcoming generation and in fact better than the original footage (to their eyes).
>>215163710>If I name a bunch of failed completely unrelated tech thingys I’m right I think!I think I’m arguing with a fat woman at this point
>>215163732James Cameron himself confirmed that he personally reviewed and approved every frame of those remasters and anyone who criticizes them is "a basement-dwelling incel"Are you really gonna question James Cameron?
>>215161593AI is a tool. Just like this guy.
>>215163775Of course I will.I also ~question~ (call out) Armin van Buuren when he shows a very incorrect technique in his """masterclass""" video that actually introduces a specific audible problem.
>>215163720based as fuark
>>215161687>We’ve already established that slick, glossy AI has no appealLmao, according to who?
>>215162309>There's a difference if I want there to be.OK, faggot, whatever.
>>215162332>stripping away all thought and just using technical means for productionBut AI Film-Creation is literally the OPPOSITE of that: It eliminates the gatekeeping of the originally expensive, resource-heavy technical means for production, allowing for a creator's pure creativity to manifest as images.Sounds like YOU are the one that "knows nothing about Art", dipshit.
>>215161593https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luddite
>>215163616>Me scared of new technology :(OK, grandpa, that's fine. Go back to your Cave-Painting or whatever. We'll handle things instead.
MOD RUNNING AMUCK BECAUSE I DIDNT DENOUNCE A.I
>>215161635FPBPHollywood is fucked because it can't understand that AI is their competition, not something they can just get rid of.If they want to be better than other forms of entertainment, they have to step it up or die.
>>215164071Honestly it's nice to see ritual spammers get banned every once in a while
>>215161593Are there really people here who unironically follow Matt Walsh for his opinions? Are you faggots 40+ years old???
>>215163616you used something designed to hide its flaws and please addicts enough to get big investment, there is no gen AI yet released that was created to create art as it's first and only guiding principal.
>>215161635he's right though. its an amalgamation of what has been fed into it, but it cannot create something new that it has no concept of.
>>215164128How did it know what Will Smith eating spaghetti looked like when Will Smith was never filmed eating spaghetti before he learned of the AI meme?
>>215164095I only posted once in here and nothing I've ever posted before.
>>215164128But enough about Quentin Tarantino!
>>215161593Its a fucking tool like anything else faggots
>>215164158Just to indulge you, here's every post that got banned ITTBy the way, even though I bitched at the retard I didn't actually report him. I know that's pointless, you can't get rid of anybody from this shithole. But man he gets on my nerves.
>>215164152> its an amalgamation of what has been fed into it
>>215161695Its because he's a loud mouth grifting faggot like everyone else who would be negatively effected by AI.Like you and your gay breadtubers.
>>215161593Art has already died because the CIA pushed shit like Jackson Pollack as 'art' when it's anything but. Classical art has been dead for quite some time and film making is the worst it's ever been so if AI can improve on what we currently are subjected to then I'm all for it.
>>215164128You're aware that human art is also an amalgamation of what's been fed into it. That's what influence is all about.Every artist worth a shit has learned through studying other peoples' works. All artists train on external data.
>>215162332Maybe you retards shouldn't have used interest free loans and government grants to produce absolute trash for the past few decades.
>>215161861Is he wrong? People won't go see a superhero movie if you lower the quality, so you have to cut the cost to make a profit.
>>215162403AAA vidya benefits massively from smaller teams.
>>215163182Its fucking perplexing how these people are bitching about AI when they act like dumb spambots from over a decade ago.Like, we reached the bottom of the barrel in terms of discourse and creativity YEARS ago and they want to draw the line at AI?Give me a fucking break.
>Movies in the future will be a director working with a small group of tech nerds feeding the AI into making a movie>There's nothing these hacks in hollywood can do about it
>>215161593All art is soulless in the current year.
>>215164437And they'll have to be better and more entertaining than the average autist with the same budget.It's gonna be a wild ride.
>>215161593>"Sora, take the movie Tron Ares and remove Jared Leto. Also fix the story."At the point AI could do that then it's definitely filmmaking.
i cant even understand why people are exited about AI beyond language stuff and repetitive tasks, the AI bubble cant burst soon enough, i want altman and peter thiel to be raped by bums just to afford a hot cup of coffee
