Would you have abandoned the kids too if you were in his shoes?
>>215165314Bump
Seriously, fuck yeah.
>>215165314No.>20 foot tall T Rex peering down over the fence. I'd just stay put lol. No way I'm putting myself out in the open.
>>215165314>see dinosaur>exit vehicle and run into a bathroomNo, he was retarded. You stay with the kids and keep them quiet until it goes away
>>215165471>>215165475You knuckleheads need to watch the fucking movie before responding. The other two men got out of their vehicles and actually taunted the t-rex before surviving so your "exit the vehicle = certain death" logic is just cope for your cowardism. Those kids would have died if the fuckers that got out of their vehicle hadn't actually gone out and I guess I need to spoil the fact that the lawyer actually made it to the shitter and was perfectly fine, what he did wrong was that he didn't continue to run.
>>215165314I would have gone out of the car and slowly walked towards the T-rex. animals freak out when you show no fear and don't react to them charging you, that's why canada geese can defeat gorillas and cows and shit
>>215165788cowards btfo by facts and logic
no but just because I'd be too afraid to move, I wouldn't even be thinking about the kids.
>>215165842No they wouldn't have died because I wouldn't have let the older one be a dumbass and shine a flashlight at the Rex>>215165819Yeah that's a very risky gamble lol. I wouldn't even try that with a bear, let alone a dinosaur.
>>215165788Yes, he was retarded for thinking a bathroom made out of fucking straw and flimsy wood is somehow safer than a car.
>>215165314The bizarre thing is the people in the scene didn't know Nedry had fucked up the whole park including cameras and stuff so some of their machiavellian choices could've had no witnesses
>>215165932That's got nothing to do with leaving the kids or leaving the vehicle.Also T-rex literally even made it into the main park complex. If he wants you, he's going to get you. Structurally sound buildings aren't a sure bet.
>>215166060There was a tarp there, which is how the raptors and the Rex got through. A T Rex can weigh up to 14 tons so it can destroy anything that isn't sturdier than a medium sized house, but at the same time, it probably won't go through the effort if it didn't know food was in there.
Why was there a random bathroom thereThe ride was not supposed to stop just go around the track
>>215166208When ya gotta go ya gotta go
>>215166208>The ride was not supposed to stopYes it was. That's why they had an elaborate device to raise a goat up to lure the T-Rex near the fence. They thought ahead and realized people on the tour would actually want to see a T-Rex. They also thought waiting around until it showed up might be too long a wait and somebody might have to take a piss or shit. So they put a bathroom there. They simply never thought the power to a fuckhuge electric fence would go out
>>215165314What was he going to do, fight it off? Anyway, if he had taken them with him, they would have died too.
>>215166176That tarp looks to me like it was to another part of the building, not like it was covering some sort of hole in the wall that lead outside the building, but I'm not sure on that.Also, raptors can open doors so they didn't need the tarp.
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>>215165314How come the “its vision is based on movement” thing only applies in the first one? I’m sure it’s some thing that was disregarded by paleontologists after the fact, so it was ignored in the sequels, but it was at least established canon in the context of the story. It was also a clever way to explain why it acted “heroically” at the end. Then, Jurassic World just cut all pretenses and turned it into a dinosaur superhero.
>>215166281It was obviously a visual cue to explain to the audience how it got in.
>>215165788>cowardism
>>215166297yeah, nah I see what you're saying. Still seems to me like that shouldn't be a whole in the wall because from here it doesn't look like that hole should be that big. The size should be the size of another door if that's the location.I'm just fucking around though. I guess a big whole in the wall big enough for a t-rex to fix through is how it got in, but it's still a case of t-rex outsmarting dumb ass fucking humans who think they got it all figured out.
>>215166281You can see through the tarp in multiple shots during the raptor/rex fight. It leads outside. Its classic construction, you leave a section of the wall open and tarp it so you can still move bigger things inside the building. You can see at the start when they first arrive they're still doing a lot of finish work on the interior and arranging the dinosaur skeletons in the central display
>>215166341Stop being obtuse. You know what I mean.
>>215165788Are you having a stroke or something? That makes no fucking sense, the lawyer was not courageous and didn't save anyone by leaving the car, and the fact that Malcolm miraculously survived getting trodden on by a t-rex proves nothing. Take your meds and never post any of your schizo garbage again.
>>215166307I don't think the whole vision based on movement stuff was ever considered true. It was just headcanon for JP.
>>215166682>>215165788Yeah Malcolm was almost about to be eaten by the T Rex until it smashed the outhouse to smithereens and Malcolm was hidden underneath the debris
>>215165819>that's why canada geese can defeat gorillas and cows and shitI've seen the cows vs. goose, but am I missing some epic gorilla vs. goose video? where the hell did you pull that comparison out from?
Adulthood is realizing that Gennaro in the movie was just Spielberg being unable to contain his Jewish nature and making the only overtly christian character a cowardly wretch who dies pathetically.Gennaro in the book is basically a chad and the only thing he chickens out about is confined spaces because he's claustrophobic.
>>215166307>How come the “its vision is based on movement” thing only applies in the first one?Because at the time the book was written that was considered correct, it was debunked after the book was published.Likewise the Raptors presented in the movie are supposed to be Velociraptor Antirrhopus, which was reclassified to Deinonychus several years after the book was published.
>>215166798>it was debunked after the book was publishedHow the fuck do you debunk a t-rex vison being based on movement? furthermore how the fuck do you even come up with that fact in the first place?I swear I can't stand "scientists" these days.
>>215166813>How the fuck do you debunk a t-rex vison being based on movement?By digging up a skull with a more complete occular cavity demonstrating that it had much larger eyes and better binocular vision than previously assumed, retard.This is also why anyone talking about feathers can be ignored, it's been wholly debunked with fossilized skin imprints.
>>215166834So owls vision is based on movement?
>>215166813>>215166834T Rex's vision probably was never true. I mean, it doesn't even make sense when you think about it. What land predator has awful eyesight and has no echolocation?
No I would think "Woah awesome it's the Trex!" Because at the point in the movie he runs, the Trex is still on the other side of its fence.And because I would assume the park designers are not total idiots, I would think they would have built the steel wire fence to be strong enough to contain the Trex even if the power failed. Hammond spared some expense because not even a Trex should be able to just bite through those wires that easily. This shit would never have been approved in a western zoo. The real moral of the story is poor regulatory oversight in Central American nations.
i have a written film analysis how Jurassic Park is a test of fatherhood or better said an alchemic transformation of Dr. grant to a father. It came to me after the 1000th time viewing and seeing the androgynous child and Dr. grant interact where he deliberately is crass.
>>215167295Okay, what would you do once it breaks out?
>>215166264The biggest "plot hole" with all these movies is how they have no (or almost no) contingency plans for situations like this in a park with fucking dinosaurs. Imagine the security in your average zoo or even in everyday life. Even if greed is supposed to be the reason, you'd think they would want to protect their investment. They would need stronger fences, cameras out the ass, more than a barebones skeleton staff and hundreds of ex-military personnel with large caliber weapons. Probably staffed bunkers around the enclosures for the huge/dangerous dinosaurs, with heavy weapons. It's not like building those would be super expensive relative to the rest of the operation and you could easily camouflage them. Thinking of it, they should make a movie where they establish all that and then turn it into some sort of Aliens-meets-Turok style thing. From the perspective of the security force. If you need a fish-out-of-water character, have him be a new guy, who falls for some chick from the civilian side of things (possibly also new to the operation, they could meet on the way there etc.). The fantastical aspect of it all gives you enough leeway for whatever reason you need for shit to go wrong.
>>215168052Yes, that's his whole arc. He was a douche to that fat kid in the beginning and but then went out to protect the kids in the end of movie. They revisite the whole thing in the third, someone asks Grant why he's not married anymore and he says "because she wanted kids", then Grant and the father (don't care about the character's name, it was William H. Macy) have some back and forth about having kids/family. In the end when Grant reach for his ex-wife for help she can barely hear him on the phone because her house is full of kids screaming and jumping around. I think would rather run from dinosaurs for a decade rather than live a day in a house like that.
>>215165314100% in a heartbeat without hesitation. Wasn't he just their lawyer? I might get heroic for family or friends' kids, but for a random client of my company? Would you die for a customer of your company?
>>215168614interesting, i can recall much of the 2nd or 3rd. It is fairly topical but I just enjoy how the imagery of using the tree with Dr. grant and the kids, and the dropping of the raptor claw poignant symbolism. The small symbolisms, the inverted color scheme of Dr. grant and ellie outfits, malcom in all black. And then you have the inversion where Ellie has to "man up" while Dr grant has to guide. And without going on a tangent, you once again get the Jewish idealism with prometheus in dr malcom, not a slight, pure cultural aspect i have noticed from jewish authors etc
>>215165788If the kids had stayed still and quiet they would've been okay.The only reason the t-rex figured out they were inside was because they were being stupid with the flashlight (which we see Grant hoping they turn it off) and then it starts flickering.
