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How do we fix this.
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>>215167370
Fire all jews
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>>215167370
house of the dragon is doing okay
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>>215167401
El Cid was made by a Jewish man you dumb nazi.
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>>215167456
This. The jew-bashing is really quite out of control here. Kind of ruining the website anymore.
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>>215167370
It doesn’t look sewious if there are colors.
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>>215167370
piss filter era but movies
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>>215167559
Have you tried reddit? Or bluesky
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The funny part is - when movies did have color, they looked so much better too.
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>>215167630
The two anti-zionist websites?
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Cream
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Robin of Sherwood had greens-and-browns but also had knights in blue and red, royalty in purple, etc.

for me it's the right balance between historical accuracy and low fantasy magic. some of the older Technicolor stuff goes TOO FAR in the colourful direction, IMO.
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>>215167597
bottom left looks kinda cute, what game is this?
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>>215167686
some history buff will know, but wasn't it outright illegal to wear certain colours in the Middle Ages without a loicence? so you couldn't just stick on a purple cloak as a serf, even if you somehow had those fancy dyes.
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>>215167597
>played mgs delta
>looks wrong
>put on piss filter
>it's a lot better and looks like the og

Well, I don't like it in general and certainly don't want it back but for some games it works. It gives it "that feel". I don't want to play without it in games that originally had it, looks "off".
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>>215167650
They still don’t allow Jew bashing, so take yourself over there if you don’t like it.
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>>215167421
so true.
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>>215167687
Resistance Fall of Man
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>>215167559
Agreed but not for no reason. Some anons are just way too trigger happy.
Critique of the jews and their evil ways is good though.
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>>215167370
aliens are absorbing light from our planet and thats why cars are only 3 colors now, movies are all black and brown and video games need to crank brightness to max to maybe make out whats going on.
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>>215167769
only the ruling members of the roman era could wear purple, and it was usually in bad taste even for them to just walk around in purple all day unless they had made some victory or it was an event

there were some cultural and even legal restrictions, in some places, throughout the middle ages - but the real barrier of entry was always the cost. dyes like green, blue, red, yellow, and even pink are unbelievably cheaper and easier to procure than purple. purple is EXORBITANTLY expensive at this time because it only comes from like 2 different kinds of snails in a single part of the mediterranean

a big part of the dying process also isn't the color but the process that applies the color itself. the quality of dye doesn't matter if the mordant (the binding agent that keeps the dye on the textile) is shit or even further if the make of the garment itself is low quality. nobility could afford clothing that would actually retain its color brilliantly and on top of that they also had a large enough wardrobe to keep clothes in rotation and minimize wear - rather than owning a grand total of like 8-10 articles of clothing and having to use all of them to labor away outside
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>>215167370
>How do we fix this.
Hire more queer and BIPOC actors to add more color to these roles
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>>215167370
Isnt this because dyes were really expensive back then?
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>>215168165
there are probably several plants growing within 100 meters of you right now that could be processed into dye. dye isn't expensive or even particularly difficult to make, the dysgenic jew hollywood drivers of today just make dogshit movies with no soul and have "inexplicably" across the board decided to remove all color, life, and cover everything in shit any time a movie takes place before the 20th century or anything equivalent to that in a fantasy world
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>>215167421
house niggers of the dragon you mean
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A handful of jews/anticatholics got together and decided that the medieval era was heckin horrible and evil because Christendom was at its height. Since then, (((we))) have to accurately portray it for the drab and ugly era of history that it was according to (((us))).
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>>215167421
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Funnily enough, deep black, alongside purple and burgundy, was an expensive, nobility only color. No darkly clad peasants, only pastels, browns and greys for them.
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>>215168306
i mean if you take 10 seconds to actually LOOK at the kinds of textiles people had to make clothing with back then you'd immediately realize how retarded the idea of everyone walking around in grey and black is. flax makes a very subtle mint-blue off-white fabric, wool makes white fabric, linen makes near-white beige fabric - generally every plant or animal is going to give you a white or almost white bolt of cloth

so why the fuck would a society of people that can't just toss something into an automated machine or order it off a chinese knockoff site bother taking already perfectly good cloth that is a light, pleasant color to look at and turn it black or grey or shit colored? it's such a fucking joke. don't even get me started on shit like gayme of thrones and its endless, revolving door of faggots in retarded looking "leather armor" - i definitely think GOT has been the biggest recent perpetrator of some of the worst jewdieval tropes out there. leather armor, everything's black and grey, everyone's dirty, everyone's a violent godless rapey retard, there seems to be virtually no law or order and the guards and soldiers are all more like cartoonish, career henchmen that are paid in warcrimes and debauchery. fucking terrible show made by an obese, moronic hack
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>sunny climate sunny filter
>cloudy climate cloudy filter
huh
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>>215168076
thanks anon, interesting stuff.

so what WERE the normal colours for typical serfs/labourers? white cotton was an expensive import/luxury, right?
so was it all flax/linen? browns and beige (as much as /tv/ will seethe)?
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>>215168165
Fucking cavemen made dyes with whatever plants they could gather near a cave, what makes you think dyes would be
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>>215167370
Left is woke, right is better.
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>>215168482
>>215168405
oh fuck forgot about wool.

i'm English and it all just seems like a nightmare because of our generally rainy weather. wool to keep warm, but wet wool gets insanely heavy: you HAVE to keep sheep sheared or they struggle to walk? ;_;

but keeping thatch on roofs dry, replacing it, how the hell do you prevent leaks in the roofs themselves? hearth constantly on the go, just to dry everything out?
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>>215168482
Orange and green were very popular for a long time because they were easy dyes to make. Reds and pinks and blues were also very easy. Basically any colour EXCEPT Black.
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>>215167370
Top right is from a movie called Black Death. If you want to be real autistic they're not knights but they're roguish characters like assassins and executioners. But even leaving that aside, a movie's main purpose isn't to be 100% realistic or accurate to the time period, but it's to create an atmosphere that's in accordance with the theme of the movie. It's a movie with horror elements about the black plague where everybody is dying and the mood is near apocalyptic, having them wear bright clothing would thematically be completely retarded.
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>>215168306
>>215168521
how do you make something black rather than dark grey, anyway?

t. have tried to dye clothes black with modern washing machine dyes (they just darken in stages)
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>>215168482
like that other anon said, GREEN was popular, because you can literally turn grass into dye. among other popular colors you're probably looking at yellow and blue because those are both easy colors to get out of a lot of the flowers growing in more temperate regions; colors like pink and magenta can come from berries such as cranberries or blueberries

and if your clothes weren't dyed - which wasn't all that common in a larger settlement, as the clothes making process would be closely linked to the dying process, and chances are you would buy your clothing pre-dyed - then yeah it would really just be white. when i say "near-white beige" i really do mean almost entirely white.

a village in the middle ages inhabited entirely by people wearing undyed garments would just look like a bunch of earthcore hipsters really: all loose fitting trousers and dresses of neutral, virtually white, raw, fabrics that are, after a few years of use, slightly distressed and probably a little greyed/yellowed out but still clean and still bright looking.
really though the inability to remove certain stains would make most undyed tops start to look like an old white cotton shirt you use for garage/yard work, kind of a natural tie-dye of grasses, oils, faded colors from foods and drinks, etc
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>>215168739
was dye a purely aesthetic/fashion thing, then? i get that for royalty, less so the random villages. and i'm guessing you'd have to constantly re-dye with those berries, right?

nice that it gave people something to do. we're humans, we like nice-looking things. but living here in the future there's a function-over-form (out of sheer necessity) i think we've lost. i want shoes-for-life that are perfectly sculpted to my feet, damn it.
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>>215168519
actually when done the way they did it a wool garment keeps the rain off you really well, they had processes to treat the wool and alter the fiber structure in the weave to wick away rain - something sheep of course don't possess naturally

also, done right, the thatch would also just send the rain down off the roof. a well built thatch roof could easily last a few years without leaks - but you have to remember that your standard medieval hovel was one big room with a dirt floor, so a "leak" isn't really as disastrous for them as it is for us, knowing a leak just means several layers of our modern roof has been compromised
and most people also wouldn't have a hearth but sort of just a firepit in the middle of the room

>>215168595
this is where the mordant came in. you need some kind of special binding agent made out of iron or chromite or borax or what have you and that allows for more complex colors and a deeper set in the dye - but this is where, in the middle ages, you'd start to have to have access to industrial levels of manufacturing and a lot of money. mining is expensive, dangerous, and slow, and the kinds of mordant made from less prohibitive materials are not all known yet
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>>215167559
Too many brown people on here these days.
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apparently Errol Flynn's Robin Hood is the most historically accurate film in costume ever made
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>>215167370
because "muh Dark Ages" according to every commie historian and teachers
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>>215168906
did they really have cheap panto costumes in the 12th century?
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>>215168877
nice dubdubs
but yes, dyes were all fashion - because fashion was probably even bigger back then than it is now. when you only live with like 200-600 people everybody is going to talk about everything, and one of those things is status, and since fashion is directly consequential to status (and usually the wealthy are the ones dictating fashions) it only stands to reason that looking presentable and standing out are a big part of their life

of course anything humans enjoy becomes a commodity - so while your whole village may not give 2 shits about dying their perfectly functional clothing, you're still sitting on top of some kind of massive natural resource for dye-making that you want to exploit, and now your people primarily export dyes as a luxury good to larger towns and cities... well, we've got all this dye, and it's been a cold and long and miserable winter, why don't we all make us some red cloaks? we'll be the red cloak town! WOOO! and then just like that everybody is wearing dyed clothing

this actually tracks too funnily enough, as when looking at mountain cultures like the nepalese or peruvians you see psychedelic displays of all kinds of colors, any they can get their hands on. wearing colored cloths speaks to the human psyche and gives us comfort when the world is miserable and gray
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>>215167921
Lmao. Reddit is a jew-hating cesspool what the fuck are you talking about? I think there's more jew hate on reddit and x than pol these days
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>>215168934
they weren't that tight but "stockings" of a sort were the common unisex garb for a sort of socks and underwear combo - and for the torso you'd wear a big, comfy undershirt that could be sinched up with a belt when you were finally ready to go out

so walking down a street in the middle ages essentially you could safely assume everybody inside each house, man or woman, young or old, were probably sat together around the fire, hanging out, just shirt-cocking it
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>>215168924
no historian says dark ages. ever.
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>>215168877
>was dye a purely aesthetic/fashion thing
Of course. It is still. You can get almost everything ecru if you want but that too is a fashion thing.
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>>215167370
All the background soldiers on the left are wearing black and only those in the foreground are in colour. It's almost like it was the intention of the artist to draw attention to the foreground characters with exaggerated colour.
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>>215167559
It's how third worlders try to fit in. It's performative anti-semitism. It's safe-racism.
By all accounts, they should have their own version of merchant middlemen to complain about instead of stealing European/American historical tension.
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>>215168482
Depends on where you lived, here in Sweden it was pretty drab colours. The upper classes got pissed when the peasants started to get access to blue dyes, lmao.
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>>215169072
>By all accounts, they should have their own version of merchant middlemen to complain about instead of stealing European/American historical tension.
what sense does this make when kikes and the hydra-like heads of the global central banking cartel affect virtually every single country on the planet

pretty much every nation and every race has a fair bone to pick with jews - especially if they've been kept chained to third world practices by """american financial groups"""
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>>215168165
It's actually the opposite. dyeing to make really dark fabrics took multiple dyes. The lightest, most colorful pastel colors are actually the cheapest to make. Where as black, brown and purple were the most expensive.
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>>215168519
Just treat the wool in linalool. Very common in the Isles, even today. Sweater or cloak will need a full rainstorm to get soaked. It will make it smell like sheep though...
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>>215167559
Years ago I stopped using /tv/ for a while because I thought all the antisemitic conspiracy theories were super cringe. Opening the board was like falling through a time portal and seeing peasants believing the jews poison the wells or whatever. But now since Israel was allowed to commit a holocaust in Gaza I approve of hating jews. I still think the conspiracy belives on here are cringe, but I 100% support all hate against jews now.
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>>215169012
i have worn nylon tights (you don't need to know why) and they really don't support the gonads much. even when they're tight.

going commando is uncomfortable, but if hose were like Burt Wart Robin tights, that's MORE uncomfortable, surely.
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>>215168877
Just pure white was pretty common in certain areas at certain times. Having white clothes without any stains is the sign of a wealth person.
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>>215167644
Film vs digital
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>>215169168
>i didn't believe those crazy conspiracy theorists until one of their most foundational conspiracies came true in front of everybody and is continuing to remain true literally every day
>they're still crazy conspiracy theorists though

just shut the fuck up and kill yourself you useless midwit faggot. we don't need your completely worthless seal of approval to know what the reality is sitting in front of us
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>>215169049
what are these, anon? selvage linen pseudo-jeans?
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>>215167370
Which is more accurate though? Just because they're old paintings doesn't mean they're more accurate. I would assume the drab colors of modern movies are closer to reality. I doubt the most quality dyes would be wasted on battle attire or that they were very clean so even there was color I doubt they were vibrant.
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>>215167644
this would make a better point if the modern movies side featured more than a single movie. they all look like that anyways, so it's not even hard to find more examples.
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>>215169137
>when kikes and the hydra-like heads of the global central banking cartel
It's because if you study history that's not just European and American, you discover that nothing about the Jews is unique to them, and that there have been countless foreign infiltrators in countless kingdoms and Empires who take over a disproportionate amount of wealth, or take over an entire important industry, or have to much influence in Government. The Jews aren't actually that special, it's just that they are magnified because American culture is magnified and permeates the entire modern world and everyone wants it, so they adopt hating Jews.
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>>215169281
You're doubting that people who fetishise war and live in a violent warlike time didn't spend a little extra to look good doing their lifelong job?
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>>215169335
okay, name 3 of these financial shadow organizations that are still actively ruining things today
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>>215169338
Yes, but moreso I doubt they would have access to quality dyes that would produce eye catching colors like depicted in the paintings.
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>>215169388
don't you think if they had the capacity to paint those colors they'd also have the capacity to wear those colors? we literally have surviving articles of clothing from these time periods that are to this day still vibrant so imagine them in their heyday some 750-1500 years ago
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>>215167421
I fixed it sar
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>>215169335
>there have been countless foreign infiltrators in countless kingdoms and Empires
there's a difference between the conquest of kingdoms, nations and empires, and a small nepotistic population that repeatedly does this among only themselves within said kingdoms and empires to the detriment of the host population through all of recorded history. though if you do have examples of this, I wouldn't mind hearing them, as I'm curious to whether any of them still exist and cause problems to everyone else to this very day.
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>>215169281
>so even there was color I doubt they were vibrant.
Colours were incredibly important for battle, it's how you identify friend from foe and whose in what unit. Especially important if the fighting is local and both armies are wearing the same style of armour
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>>215168076
Yeah, no matter what the technique, sun will fade any fabric.
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>>215169335
Flesh and Blood was honestly one of the most compelling movies I've ever seen, it deserved better and Hauer was wrong to hate it just because his character is a bit rapey.
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>>215167686
This show has such comfy vibes.
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>>215169168
If you haven't figured out that everyberg singlestein timowitz is true then you lack pattern recognition.
I get tired of talking about it as well I need a bell that I can ding.
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>>215169427
Chinese in malaysia, lebanese in africa. That said the jew problem among whites is particularly bad because the whites are the least ethnocentric race on earth (made worse by christianity and its aftershocks but nonetheless there) and the jews use ethnocentrism while pretending that they don't. Read Kevin McDonald for details.
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>>215169427
>>215169386
I can't find the videos it seems, but one example is just how much foreign western capital controlled the Russian Industrial Revolution, especially French and Dutch. I've also heard that Indian and Paki Capital in the 60s had a huge disproportionate influence over Central African agriculture, and that today, overseasChinese private foreigners will accrue vast wealth in almost any country they move to, like Singapore, but the Chinese nationals also take indsutrial control over modern Africa and are now spreading their tendrils into Central America.

I learned about a lot of this while watching Thomas Sowell and a few others, but I can't find all the specific videos. Also we can't forget the Irish.
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>>215167370
It's also literally never sunny in medieval movies. You literally CAN'T think of one scene in any movie or show where it's not cloudy or rainy
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>>215169252
Basically just regular selvedge jeans except with natural white cotton on the warp and natural brown fox fiber cotton on the weft. The flecks of black are cotton seeds. No dyes or bleaching done. Pic related is a jacket with just untreated cotton on both the warp and weft.

Most people in the past would've looked at these things and assumed the wearer was broke or a cheapskate. Even if people wanted white clothes in the past they'd want them bleached bright white, not this color. Its the same now for the same reasons as in the past. There's basically no culture on the planet were people would want this kind of fabric as a rule. If someone does its basically a fashion thing for showing you went out of your way to get a half-finished fabric for the sake of it. Sort of like how some people deliberately only use matte primer as their hotrod's paint job. People want proper colors in their clothes and always have.
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>>215167370
We really need more feisty warriors in skinny leggings
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>>215169733
ok, so it's just jews then, thought so
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>>215170058
why are they shooting at each others? Aren't they in the same army?
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>>215170141
How can you be so blind that you don't see that one side is blue with red while the other side is red with blue?
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>>215170141
Its just a prank bro.
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>>215169168
The only rational post ITT
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>>215170141
The English had Fleur-de-lis on their coat of arms, because they saw themselves as the legit rulers of France.
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>>215167370
You are free to make your own clown colored movies, why are chuds so helpless? Why do they want a big government to fix things for them
Literally make your own movies
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>>215170324
Atleast God set them straight.
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>>215170324
We call them English but they really were a French family, it essentially was a French civil war
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>>215170454
Since then their royal line has changed and now they are germans
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>>215170324
>saw themselves as the legit rulers of France
Because they were.
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>>215167421
>my grey, woke soap opera that's full of girlbosses and only male nudity is hecking awesum



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