Why is he wielding two swords?
One sword: goodTwo swords: double goodYou must be one of those NFL players for whom they dumbed down the show.
He's just that skilled.
>>215212737his mom let him
He shouldn't be. His armor should be much cleaner, and Dawn should be as ornamental as it is deadly. Him dual-wielding with that awful choreography looked fucking retarded. This scene was when my hope for this series finally died. This and the battle between Robert and Rheagar at the Trident were the only ones that I really didn't want them to fuck up, and goddamn did they fuck it up.
>>215212737it's called being ambidextrous
>arthur "two swords" dayne
He's got one sword for regular swording and another sword in his offhand for dueling
Because he has two hands.
>>215212737its crazy it took them until the final season to do a decent fight scene and by then it was too late
>>215213530>They hecked up the fight scenes from le books!!!Nigger There is nothing to fuck up, none of these things are actually in the books
>>215213917The fight itself isn't in the books, the people and weapons are. Dayne's never said to fight with two weapons, nor in any fight to my knowledge do they go into such a style. The entire scene is piss-poor and not true even to the snippet we read from Ned's delirium. It's a huge fuckup.
>>215212737Wasn’t he supposed to be one of the best Targaryen swordsman? He should’ve lopped off Ned’s head.
>>215213974Yeah great, so once again bookfags are whining that something that only ever existed in their heads was "ruined by actually making it real.
>>215214029What part of "we didn't see the fight itself but we did see the leadup" do you not understand? It wasn't made real because it wasn't genuine to the source material. Imagine being so stupid you can't even comprehend fucking ASoIAF, this shit is made for retards like you.
>>215214029Showfags are trannies
>>215212737Offhand is a stat stick he's wielding for the passives. The extra attack is just a small bonus.
>>215214086I understand perfectly. You're a seething retard who doesn't know what he's crying about>genuine to the source materialspeak english properly or not at all you dumb thirdie
>>215214005That's kind of the point though. The implication in the book that the fight didn't really go down the way everyone said it did.
>>215214244So it's another mystery box that will never be answered? Got it.
He is of the night...
>>215212737It's not even two arming swords. Literally two longswords. Utter retardation.
>>215214149>I understand perfectly. You're a seething retard who doesn't know what he's crying aboutI'm not crying about anything. I'm pointing out that the show had a retarded poorly-choreographed fight scene that wasn't true to the source material>speak english properly or not at all you dumb thirdieSomeone's projecting, English is a proper noun.
>>2152127372x DPS
TWO?
>>215212737because he specced dual wielding
>>215212737>I am Arthur Dayne, greatest swordsman in the 7 kingdoms, and wielder of the legendary sword Dawn!>...and this is my other, non-legendary sword in my other hand. It looks the same as Dawn but this one isn't special and doesn't have a name, but I'm still pretty good with it.
>>215212737God those helmets are so fucking dumb looking. Kitty cat man helmets
That shit was mad retarded
>>215212737>>215214559TWO?!
TWO FOOKIN SWORDS?!NOWWY TENDS!!
>>215213530You thought they were going to pull off good fight choreography?
>>215214739how hard is it to get a decent sword fight coordinated in a billion dollar show, I mean really
>>215214739No, but up until that point I reserved my judgment. After that I knew everything afterwards would be guaranteed sludge. It was kind of a "straw that broke the camel's back" moment, I pretty much stopped caring about the shows, books, etc. I don't even bother beginning to read a fantasy series unless it's finished now, fuck that shit.
>>215212737>
>>215214754Sorry anon all the time and budget that could have gone into a sword fighting coordinator had to go into paying the actors 10 million dollars an episode to make sure they stick around for this shit and as bonuses for Dave and Dan as a gift from themselves to themselves for being the best show runners ever.
>>215212737actual serious I will fuck you up with one sword swordsman here, its in the name swordsman there is an s after the d. if you are better than the other man with a sword if you have two he is already dead, now we could discuss the martial prowess of ned and his men and how armor and tackling plays a role in all of this but dual wielding swords is very viable if you know how to play to kill and not just do stances like youtubers do, japanese I think used two swords regularly, as swordmanship there was more of a tradition than the necessity of defend yourself with anything you can get like in europe. its more simple. dont (you) me, peasants.
>>215215295only mushashi used two swords bro
>>215215332remember those videos of what appears to be russian young adults swinging longswords like crazy and fighting one another like that and get all cut up? against an opponent like that, crazed up his ass I would like to have two swords, one for blocking from whatever direction his suicide attacks come from then strike with another one. but that is in an controlled situation like the duels musashi had, which kind of proves my point. in real medieval battle you would most likely need to worry about projectiles, making anti piercing armor and shield more important than have two swords to kill one single type of opponent. but you can use two swords in a fight, thus making it unfair to your opponent if you know what you are doing which is the point of fighting, being unfair and surviving. fuck I said dont (you) me cause I would have to reply
>>215215653a single slash from a zweihander or a katana would put whatever wild dualwielding craziness to rest with a single powerful unparriable strike at a range where no counterattack could be possible though
Why did he want to murder the brother of the woman he was sworn to protect?It made not sense unless he was genuanly 100% retarded.
>>215214324It was going to be answered but it might not now that GRRM won't finish the books.
>>215214754Well considering swords are stupid weapons that have never been used seriously in combat during any point in history I'd say it's basically impossible. Not sure wtf you were expecting bro
>>215215754He was Kingsguard. He was there to protect the new Targ king no matter which norf shit waddled up.
yeah this is a dogshit autism thread. muting this sht
>>215213974bran was getting psyoped by 3eyed raven
>>215215779>that one reddit nigger that watched one youtube about le epic polearms and thinks all the billions of swords made and their documented use throughout human history is somehow fake video essays were a mistake
>>215215754you'd think kingsguard would have a crossbow or something to shoot first and then pick up their swords if a band of rebels approached the stronghold htey were protecting.
>>215212737So what I do that on twow
>>215215779>swords are stupid weapons that have never been used seriously in combat during any point in historyThis nigga has never heard of the Roman Empire lmao
>>215215830Lol imagine being such a nerd that the first thing you think of is reddit and youtube. Hit the gym little bro
>>215215904>little bro
>>215215904Does it gall you? That I immediately knew exactly what video essay you watched that you formed your new opinion around? you mental midget? if you believe everything you read then believe this: you're a fucking retard. to think you actually thought swords, the premier fighting implement, weren't actually used because of one fucking video essay lol
>>215215295no retard>dw is viable because musashiimagine being an ancient swordsman explaining whole technique behind it and what's the common mistakes and mdoern retard now thinks you can use 2 full sized swords as dual-wield to fightin reality, especially in that scene, he would die to literal 1 guy with single strike on one of these swords. If he flipsthem like that, he literally have 0 grip on them and anything that strike those swords when they're in motion and not in stance to hit will straight up disarm him. To swing like that you use momentum, gravity and literal 1 finger to fling the blade around it.Other rpoblem is lack of force. There's no way to inflict slashing wound that would be deadly like it's shown in that scene. And if the group decided to attack at one, you could block, disarm and imaple the fucker easily. The entire problem with dual-wielding in real lfie was lack of force behidn hits while you not only need to coordinate your swings but also you gonna get tired extremly fast. And then it takes your basic sword technique of straight up overhead strikeonly viable option is blaming it on fantasy where his attacks and stamina are much stronger and camera doesn't really show the diffirence in speed and power. But then again, you could do literal 1:1 knight of dawn using his actual, told to be magical, 2h sword and none would complain. He would also had a way better chances agaisnt group of enemies due to sweeps and reach
>>215212737>>215215754at least he got semi-ok armor and not a chainmail wool sweater
>>215215733>unparriable strike>at a range>where no counterattack>could possible go throughok man you win this round. but dont go fighting with swords around there. I at least know how to use a machete. I use it to protect myself during the night.
>>215212737Is this game of thrones? I still haven't seen it.
>>215215971Maybe they're finally giving up on "timmy". No idea what that was about.
>>215215830dunno about le plebbit sources, but that's correct, sword was never an actual main weapon in wars, even if you ahd specialsied units using zweihanders aka literal two-handed sword in german>>215215885yes, that's why out of multiple weapons legionnares had, sword was the last one to eb drawn after pilum spam didn't do the jobsure there was a lot of swords in medieval times, but not THAT much like movies like to show
>>215215733you don't need aktana or zweihanders, your simple sword retards had there was enoughall you had to do was strike the sword when in non-combat motion to disarm him. Especially if you use both hands to swing. And since you're aiming at hsis word, not himself, you're not in danger of being hit
>>215212737Because writers are fat losers who sit home and write and they have never done any physical activity in their life.So they write on the paper "he was double wielding because he was such a badass" because in their mind it looks cool. But then a stunt choreographer has to deal with it and it always look stupid, because it doesn't make any sense.
>>215216089>he saw the video essay tooswords were everywhere and not a specialized weapon. any archeological dig discovers sword after sword after sword and nary a bardiche blade. wonder why that is, mr they never used it. stop wasting everyones time parroting this revisionist horseshit that makes for a fun video but is ultimately unsupported by any facts
>>215216017lmao just noticed itimagine beign this retarded that you order a shit like this instead of getting a ltieral pajeet or other retards and tell him to get 5kg of circles and make a chainmail in a single day just for arms
>>215213731Which? I can't think of any objectively good fight scenes in GOT, except maybe Jorah showing the dothraki what armor is
>>215216119i don't know what video you're talking about, and if video is a source then for sure im dealing with a retard, back then your main source was books and scientific papers with sources, not one retarded making loud videos about it based on google and parroting>why archeological sites has swords in them instead of pikes or axeslet me ask you this: why archeological medieval tombs usually have heavy decorated armor plates or depictions of those on sarcophagusor better, why murals and pictures of battles have diffirent weapon sets than those incldued or depicting specifically named people, like kings, royalty and other big figuresyou're free to stop being retarded and ask on >>/his/
>>215216089>yes, that's why out of multiple weapons legionnares had, sword was the last one to eb drawn after pilum spam didn't do the jobThe fuck? The pilum was thrown at the charge, it was used to disrupt the front ranks. They fought exclusively with their swords in melee combat. You're a complete fucking moron if you think the sword wasn't used throughout history as a dedicated weapon for MULTIPLE different cultures. The Roman Empire is simply the most famous and largest of the time. Genuinely wherever the fuck you heard this shit about swords not being used in meaningful quantities, they're a complete moron.
>>215216004those are not longswords making your whole point moot, but lets address force. you are a scrawny bitch in real life so why are you talking about it? and technique from the best swordsman to ever live yadda yadda? using ARMOR? if it was two longswords ok, I might have conceded my point but it isnt. do you know what I think its deadlier than a man using two swords against opponents without projectiles, even if they are wearing plate armor? another guy with two swords. I will die on my hill here, with history by my side. musashi used two swords because he knew how to take out scrubs, like I would do to you. maybe say something sweihanders and katanas like the idiot before you.>>215215733and those are two very different swords, thats why I only talked meme to you, bitch.
>>215212737>>215212781
>>215216206>let me ask you this: why archeological medieval tombs usually have heavy decorated armor plates or depictions of those on sarcophagusHe didn't say tomb, he said digs. They are found in just about any major military conflict en masse. They were an extremely common weapon throughout history, they were not a specialized weapon at all.
>>215212781>Two swords > one sword>So skilled warrior must use two swordsThis kind of shit makes me think the writers are intentionally ruining our favorite series just to demoralize us. I cannot fathom ever sanctioning such a self-evidently retarded idea. Can anyone confirm whether the two swords thing was in the books? Just curious.
>>215216184Jaime vs Ned was alright
>>215216184the battle of the bastards was pretty good same for the zombie attack I thought both final season fights
>>215216017Why can't costume departments just rent actual suits of armor? YouTubers can do it so why can't these productions with $5 million dollar a episode budgets?
>>215216287>Can anyone confirm whether the two swords thing was in the books? Just curious.Leave this thread, board and site and never return.
>>215216322Make me, faggot
>>215216287>Can anyone confirm whether the two swords thing was in the books? Just curious.Can confirm. Arthur Dayne was canonically a level 8 Fighter / 3 Rogue that took the Dual Wield feat.
/got/hotd/dunk/?
>>215216308I cant imagine its that hard to make fake plate armor idk why it looked so shit they had millions of dollars lol
>>215216287>Can anyone confirm whether the two swords thing was in the books? Just curious.In the novels, this particular duel is never depicted. The lead-up to it is, from the perspective of a delirious Ned before his execution (I believe, it's been years). But regardless, I believe at one point it's mentioned there are Braavosi that fight using a small parrying knife in their offhand at some point, but certainly there's never any major fight that's ever depicted with a dual-wielding enemy that I remember.
>>215216308They did exactly that in the first couple seasons. Like Loras' armor was rented. But they genuinely stopped caring towards the end.
>>215216184Jon vs qhorin was pretty good, hell, most of the wall story was good until the battle at castle black.
>>215216244>those are not longswords making your whole point moot, but lets address force. you are a scrawny bitch in real life so why are you talking about it?american education everyone, skipped physics lessons I see. Also in the movie those are 2 same sized swords. It's diffirent than what your hsitorical hero used in offhand>and technique from the best swordsman to ever live yadda yadda?what about actually reading what he has to say about dual-wielding you colosall retard? or you nigger see historical gifure dualing so it's now viable for everyone? lmao. How many other historical figures or even common militas you know that used dual-wielding in battle? Or duel. >I will die on my hill hereok can i dial-up to suicide prevention alarm already?> musashi used two swords because he knew how to take out scrubs, like I would do to you. maybe say something sweihanders and katanas like the idiot before you.oh boy you have no idea what other thing musashi sued to win a duel. No matter what and how shameful. You think Musashi also swinged hsi blades like retard in GoT? lmao>>215216271and you know why or you also need an explanation for that?It was mostly secondary weapon. None was going to battle with sword drawn. You sued your sword after charge or when losing your main weapon. Or when someone came close and you were a pikeman or bowman. And if you had an unit who entered the battle with swords drawn, they were indeed specialised units with 2-handers
>dual-wielding didn't exis-
>>215212781what about three swords?
>>215216270lol first thing i thought of, too.
>>215216394Helmet optimized for maximum snagging
>>215216449you really put alot of stock into that singular youtube essay on why swords weren't used alot, huh. there's no convincing you of how retarded you are. yes, blacksmiths and kingdoms smithed countless swords and they outnumbered all other weapons anyone has ever dug up by multitudes but they were merely side arms. absolutely fucking retarded
>>215216461sora....
>>215216520only person talking about some yotuube bullshit is youif you want to discuss history, especially historical wepaonry, learn how to read a book, nigger, then you have permission to come back
Are we allowed to be optimistic about Dunk?
I gotta tell ya, this is pretty terrific.
>>215216449I accept your defeat. those are bastard swords btw, the ones on the show. and musashi used a wooden longsword made by him on the spot to kill one guy. but he still used two swords in a culture where swordmanship was tradition. american culture everyone, you dont even have your european culture right. and I am talking about duels, medieval fighting is not an issue to be discussed for me, its a whole lot more than one scene on a show.
>>215216583I've read books, you're the one putting all your mental stock and store into one video essay. that's how I know everything you're saying about swords being specialized weaponry is completely fucking retarded
>>215216483Sure, if Qyburn grafted a third arm onto Gregor Clegane or something. Maybe a fourth.Gregoro Clegane.
>>215216587I don't even look at things that are upcoming anymore. I just wait until I hear something good about shit that's already out
>>215216507it's supposed to be ornate and show how rich they are to have fancy armor created
havent read the thread but let me guess, dozens of posts by autistic redditors seething over the existence of dual wielding, arguing that because it isnt good for organized battle it never happenedthen someone pointing out it existed in prestige personal combat culturesfollowed by more seething as the autist cant accept being wrong
>>215216601>be a retard who doesn't evenr ead Musashi work on using two swords at once>use mushashi example when talking about fictional character from the show who doesn't even fight like musashi>use fictional character when told about how Musashi was fighting in way diffirent style than fictional characteryou are a retard sir, thank you. Fictional guy swinging like in this TV show would get obliterated irlActual guy who used this irl did this in way different way and form and it was so convulted and specific that technique was viable only for duels for very speicifc and trained person, not for battlefield or yet alone fighting multiple oponentsretardwhatever you say it has no value until you read musashi work on his technique. Still, his technique is irrelevant to show depiction>>215216604>it's main weapon because they made a lot of it!only thing you were reading was comments under those shitty yt videos, that's why you come here to vent off anger. Now sue time machine and tell all those plebian commanders and tacticians to stop beign retarded and enter the battlefield with swords drawn instead of pikes, lances, bows and other weapons because they made a lot of swords so it should be the main weaponand then watch how they get slaughtered by cavalry and wall of spears from their enemy who wasn't as retarded as you
>>215216587Yes
>>215216728it isn't good at all>bbut musashiexception doesn't prove the rule, shitton of well documented duels and dueling schools and theorist laugh at you. Especially those who died trying to be second Musashi that died dueling a peasant
>>215216731Oh man are you retarded
>>215212737one of them is just for the buff stacking
>>215212737Sword and shield would have been more intimidating. (and would have made for better choreography)
>>215216836and you're an uneducated nigger, thank you, now go read some books instead of pretending to read one on anonymous cotton weaving forums
>>215216390Pretty much what I expected. What an insane thing to include in an adaptation.
>>215216765nah its taken seriously enough and respected well enough among actual HEMA practitioners, just considered niche and not peakhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/nmUQQuvLxWUbut i know your autism is unable to admit any wrongi can smell your BO through the screen, and can sense lindybeige in your youtube watch history
>>215216868You did a great job repeating erroneous shit you learned from a video essay until the more learned person you were talking to got tired of dealing with your absolute stupidity claiming blacksmiths would waste millions of manhours fashioning side arms in such massive quantities to outstrip all other military implements which you say are "better" lol. Anyway, have a good life and remember one video essay doesn't make you an expert. Not that you'll listen to me, I'm not a youtuber making a video in 2025 declaring bravely that thousands of years of understanding and archeological evidence is actually and epicly "incorrect"bye bye
>>215216601>be a fan of musashi technique of two swords as one>the technique based around adaptation, putting a heavy pressure on oponent by simultaneus strikes from katana(lognswrod) and wakizashi(shortsword/dagger), forcing him into passive state and unbalancing himholy fuck imagine creating an entire school, writing so much about your stratagem only for modern faggot liek you to water it down like thisin europe, people also used 2 weapons in dueling, but not as depicted in GoT. Show depiction is retarded, while in reality duelist used weapon known as parrying dagger or other short blade in his second handthe guy is correct, for a retard in the show all it takes is to unbalance him by striking at his swords instead of him
>>215216933HEMA you mean that organization that lets trannies compete in its tournaments? that is not seriously what you're basing your arguments on is it? Holy reddit
amazing how they took one of the biggest cultural events in the world and completely burned it to the ground, including their careers, in like 2 years
>>215217007theyre still getting work actually
>>215216308can´t sell merch on rented stuff
>>215216933>just considered niche and not peakso, again, exception and not a rule? and I'm well aware about it. Still it has nothing to do with what was retard in the show doingstill has nothing to do what was discussed>>215216978too abd retard, but only person talking about some retarded video is you. Only a retard like you watches videos to later complain about it and expect everyone else to also watched this videosorry nigger, we're reading books with source materials, too bad none wants to discuss whatever shit you were watching nigger, cope if you must, no wonder you try to shitpsot here and not on /hst/ where your fantasy would give a lot of lulz to everyone
>>215216449>and you know why or you also need an explanation for that?>It was mostly secondary weapon. None was going to battle with sword drawn. You sued your sword after charge or when losing your main weapon. Or when someone came close and you were a pikeman or bowman. And if you had an unit who entered the battle with swords drawn, they were indeed specialised units with 2-handersAnon, I have already explained to you that there was an entire fucking EMPIRE that expanded through use of heavy infantry armed with swords. The Roman Empire. They were fighting in the thick of combat with short swords. It happened. You don't know what the fuck you are talking about. You probably read some article intended to dispel the notion that swords were ALWAYS used and instead took that to mean swords were NEVER used. They were, extensively, for thousands of years.
>>215217018Not star wars at least, but it's not like they could have done a worse job than the people that actually got hired
>>215217035It's just painfully obvious what video you watched lol but keep doing the third world thing where you quadruple down saying obviously and evidentially retarded shit until people get tired of talking to you and then claim victory, by all means
>>215217007It was GRRM’s fault
>>215217007I mean theres literally a prequel show airing and another upcoming soon
>>215216933like I said here>>215216985>>215217041holy shit retard, fuck offprimary weapon means you use it as your first and main weapon. By that it was not a main weapon of roman military, holy shit americans
>>215216999nothing is more peak reddit that seething about dual wielding, as a quick google search showsmeanwhile you seethe over actual early modern combat manuals describing dual wielding technique, because you are a fiction obsessed redditor who is now backpedaling because all the fantasyslop you read never reached the 17th century meta
>>215217056>videoVidoeVIDEO>dude what video read book>but you watched VIDEO>what video? I prefer books>VIDEOOOnigger mindbroken
>>215217081>primary weapon means you use it as your first and main weapon. By that it was not a main weapon of roman military, holy shit americansYES IT WAS. The gladius was the primary weapon of the Roman soldier. You mentioned pilum, which were fucking JAVELINS that they threw into enemy ranks before piling in and fighting with SWORDS, not with SPEARS throughout much of their history. You unabashed fucking RETARD
>>215217081>because they threw a pilum first this guy is not willing to admit they used swords as their main weapon in roman legionsnow that's epic
>>215217018They were supposed to direct a new series of Star Wars films.They have their raped version of 3 Body Problem and a shitty Leslie Jones standup special as their biggest projects in the last 6 years.>>215217070literally nobody talks about the prequel shows. GOT was so big that even normies were watching every episode. there were even huge watchalong parties that themselves got millions of views
>>215217111You're clearly miffed I've both identified your entire knowledge base (a single youtube video) and diagnosed your entire character so accurately from just a few posts. By all means keep parroting your burrowed clickbait "knowledge" you received from a video essay
>>215217041pugio and alter gladius and spatha, as stated by romans themselves, were a sidearm and not main weaponsjavelin, was the main weapon they entered battle with and used. It after volleys from bows and pillums enemy was still there, then they went again with pilum spam, sued pilum as a shortspear and then used gladius when enemy was too close for pilum to be used effectively
>>2152171353 body problem was kind of a big deal though
>>215217147I'm gonna bitewhat video nigger
>>215217159Sure bro, the two to three javelins they through into enemy ranks before stabbing them for hours were the primary weapon. They used their swords right after getting into melee range, it was their primary weapon.
This thread is a mummer's farce.
>>215217166it had a lot of hype because of how big the IP is, but then died out.that's a lot different than GoT, which had some buzz initially but grew much bigger because of the show's quality3 body problem also wasn't nearly as big as star wars would have been or GoT was
>>215217113>>215217118since when roman empire was part of medieval times?does GoT guy use roman swords or late medieval ones stylised for fantasy?
>>215217196*threw, not through lmao
>>215217200I mean I'm just saying their careers didn't die (like they should have) the jews are still getting work
>>215216483THREE SWORD STYLE : GORDITA CRUNCH
>>215217199Mayhaps
>>215212737Hollywood kikes get off on pissing on source material.Scratching off the name of the original author if they can or just smearing feces on it.
>>215217208reminder the roman empire survived well into the medieval times and beyond and literally fell at the start of the gunpowder age
>>215217208I never said the Roman Empire was part of medieval times, the idiot that claimed swords were never used as a primary weapon didn't make a claim about the timeline. It's indisputably false to claim that no organized armed force ever used swords as the primary weapon. It was an extremely versatile weapon usable in a variety of scenarios. It was a very common weapon and even primary for several cultures throughout human history.
>>215217214obviously I didn't mean they are completely out of hollywood. that doesn't really happen.but their careers are a smouldering trash fire compared to where it was before season 7 and 8 (though the show started being shit around season 4 or 5)
>>215217247If they were doing random 1 off eps for shit like chicago fire I'd agree their careers were in shambles but 3 body was a biggish netflix thing
>>215216184Mountain vs Mandalorian
>>215217247Why are you coping so hard?Why does your ego depend so much on this idea that "D&D" need to pathetic failures giving handjobs in bus stations for crack because you didn't like s8?
>>215217285Mr Fantastic...
Lindybeige is wrong about so many things.
>thread about fantasy series with magic doing fantasy shitok elt's go->retards fighting over sword bad/good>retards fighting about swords overall>retards confusing fictional work with very specific and niche case of real-world usage>dude in the show tears a bunch of warriors swingign swords like a retard wher ein reality he woudl get wrecked instantly due to number superiority from engaging partyalso about Musashi, if it was him fighting Ed squad, he would run away/never show up and then proceed to constantly ambush them until 2 or 3 were left. Then he would shoot 2 of them with a bow and when engaged by last one throw a sand into his eyes to execute him while blindedor better hire a mercs to ambush Ed squad and then claim it was him who soloed them with some "random" eye witness spoting him next to a group of dead bodies
>>215217348Not about dual-wielding tho.
>>215217388Yeah dude, Musashi was a fuckin Kenshi pro. Dude knew how to game the system to level up properly.
>Heh, that guy who killed dozens of men in personal combat thought dual wielding was good?>Shame he didn't live long enough to learn he was wrong by an incel dance instructor who has never fought in his life
>>215217388It's a asoiaf thread, which means you get a bunch autistic who think they're experts on everything medieval after watching a few youtube videos. The books are pure unfiltered midwit bait.
>>215217489Your post is like nipples on a breastplate. Words are wind.Now please excuse me while I break my fast on eggs fried with fiery Dornish peppers, blood sausages and bacon fried black. All washed down with ale. Then I will tap a cask of the finest Arbor gold so I can be in well my cups by dinner which will consist of Sister's Stew made with four kinds of crab served in hollowed-out stale trenchers of bread along with baked capons stuffed with walnuts.
>>215217489It's just not a skill where you could really master much finesse that was both spectacular as well as pragmatic.If you lose, you typically die, or are irreparably maimed.Imagine the progression of skateboarding, if you died or were deeply maimed 70% of the time you failed to do a cool trick.There wouldn't be any advanced amazing tricks.It would all still be simpler more humble street focused tricks instead of huge vert.
no yeah romans used the gladius to defeat phalanxes their writers mention that alot this idea spear lines were the best thing ever was defeated a few hundred years after it was invented and the sword carried the day from that time until muskets and even then the sabre still saw use on horseback. pound for pound the sword is the greatest fighting implement ever invented
>>215217483I'm not going to comment on the effectiveness of Nitenichiryuu, but it is a fact that Musashi's career is inflated, and while we know he was a very adept swordsman we also know he won more than a couple duels by cleverness rather than being the most skilled.
>>215217489The show is midwit bait. The books are actually pretty good and tell a better story.
>>215215754The entire situation only makes sense if Nedetta was actually kidnapped, but by that point the show was too deep into the girlboss meme and so devoid of logic that that was never going to happen. I just hate the fact that now even bookfags are peddling this “forbidden love” bullshit.
>>215217623mmmm yes by all means dont comment on musashi's career, since I assume you are well acquainted with marozzo's work instead and will elaborate on why he wrote about those techniques as a prank?
>>215215754unironically >muh honor
>>215217303Why are you coping so hard that D&D's career didn't fall off a cliff? Why does your ego depend so much on the idea that the ending of GOT completely wrecked their career and the trajectory it was on?
>>215217710No, I've never read anything by Marozzo, and I have no idea how that relates to my comments on Musashi.
>"We had an assistant named Dave Hill," said Benioff and Weiss. "One day last summer he walked into our office and said, 'You know that kid (Olly) whose family gets massacred by the wildlings? The one who runs to Castle Black to let them know the wildlings are nearby?' 'Yeah?' 'Well,' said Dave, doesn't it make sense that he'd stay at Castle Black and become a Night's Watch recruit? Where else is he going to go?' 'You're right,' we said. 'That does make sense.' 'And what if during the battle for Castle Black, he's the one who ends up killing Ygritte?' This year, Dave Hill is a writer on the show."
>>215215754In the books there's a lot of interpretive room.It seems like maybe the baby (still not 100% confirmed but almost surely Jon, maybe some other contextual modifiers) was maybe born at and kept at or moved to Starfall, while Lyanna was kept at or returned the Tower of Joy.Lyanna was separated from the child in the hopes that Ned would go after her, and not the baby first, giving the baby a better chance at survival.If the Kingsguard slayed him and his party there, or they were defeated and fled, then it would give them even more time to move or protect the child.Ned then takes Arthur Dayne's legendary sword Dawn to Starfall and ransoms it for the baby, as well as an agreement to protect the child with a story about it being Wylla's.Ashara is ambiguously in love with Ned, and makes a plea to raise the child as her own with him, which Ned refuses, so she commits sudoku after he leaves.The Daynes despite Ned having killed their heroic son, see this act as deeply honorable, and name the new heir to the house after Ned.
Show ending is George’s ending and it’s good
>>215218013It's probably very superficially some of George's ending notes but deeply warped and corrupted through the terrible writing of the showrunners and gutting of so many plots and characters and developments that would have made it more coherent.
>>215217406maybe historically, but he gives the example of Nasir in Robin of Sherwood of how it can't work even in fantasy entertainment. he claims they always cut away: they never actually SHOW him draw his swords in one shot, because the actor couldn't physically do it.except, that's not true at all.
>>215217632The books are trash the author couldn't be othered to finish, and you are a midwit who took the bait.The show was always well produced slop, and most genuinely smart people realised that at the time.
>>215217945>In the books there's a lot of interpretive room.No. It has just not been properly explained yet, like 90% of the mystery boxes that gurm has chucked at the wall to see what sticks.
>>215218409I wouldn't really call it a mystery box. Ned had 7 men to 3, the thing that made it impressive is that the Kingsguard killed 5 of them. Mystery box would be like what does the magic horn actually do, where did it come from, etc.
>>215218439We don't know any details of what happened, and speculating about what happened is the whole appeal.If we ever did find out what happened, as we did in the show, the appeal would inevitably dry up.That makes it a mystery box.It is depressing that nearly 20 years after Lost, people still have not grasped this very basic point.
>>215216270AND HE MADE IT WORK!
>>215216184Bronn vs sir whoever at the trial
>>215218520I have to respectfully disagree. When I think mystery box, I think something intentionally designed to raise questions, whose questions are further answered with more questions. Ser Arthur Dayne's battle with Ned Stark at the tower really wasn't designed as something intended for us to ask questions about, but just to imagine how it played out in our heads. It's like a lot of the War of Power in the Wheel of Time, it's things we HEAR about but isn't explicitly shown.
>>215212737One is to block, the other is to parry.
>>215217819Mmm, yes, quite, INDEED, rather
>>215217632The books are aggressively middle brow pulp
>>215218689>Hits your single armed "block" with a full strength two handed strike (it's unblockable)nice strat bro
>>215212737one's for humans, the other for monsters
Nah, son. I parried that attack. Headbutted your face in on a counter. That's what the parry is for.
Knight of the Seven Kingdoms looks alrightt. falling for it again
>>215217945Ashara Dayne is Quaith thoughbiet
we should just do a fresh adaptation of the story start from scratch
>>215218935nah, that would be lameif Quaith is a false identity of any historical character, and she doesnt need to be, it makes sense she's Bloodraven's girlfriend or whateverbut she doesn't really need to be
>>215218940As soon as the story finishes, so never
>>215218968I don't think Shierra Seastar existed as a character yet when ACoK was written
>>215215754he swore a vow
>>215212737Got two hands.
>>215219009so?
Rhaegar was a huge asshole for going off and fraternizing while the mad king burned the country. What an asshole.
>>215219047I think he realized at the last second what he needs to do to fulfill the prophecy which is why he behaved so erratically from Harrenhall onwards.>>215218968Can I just say that Bloodraven is awesome and I'm glad it was him who got to clap her and not that terminal retard Bittersteel
Why is it so hard for Hollywood to give us good claymore/greatsword combat?
>>215218940This, but for Wheel of Time. I can't underscore how badly they fucked it up. Each book ends with a major battle or event that would be PERFECT for a season ender, or even a halfway point. I honestly can't think of a book series that would have been easier to adapt. A lanky dork becomes a magic swordmaster with three wives and has to fight through brooding while going crazy to save the world. The plot basically every single angsty teenager has ever imagined in their heads and they fuck it up, unreal.
>>215219106that looks like complete shit
>>215214115
They should rape Dragonlance next
>>215219106Has there been any movie or TV show that actually portrays greatsword combat?
>>215219327doesn't Rob Roy use a claymore for the final fight?
>>215219327The King at least KIND OF tried, although a twink chalemet in armor lolhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IUFyz8AloE
>>215216449>>215216731you are both retards who cant see beyond the curve. in a medieval setting you would be pikemen at best, in medieval japan you wouldnt last a second in combat. also, if dayne couldnt face multiple opponents with two swords, what makes you think he could with one sword alone? what advantage he would have beyond "strength" whatever that means when you are trying to poke you opponent like the teacher of arya said? you are two broken men full of reddit points easily refuted, your point is "its impossible" while I say it isnt, given the circumstances. dont you think dueling being against the law so horrible? I cant impale your face to prove my point. you both I mean, while I use two swords and you use whatever the fuck you want, scrawny and fatty.
>>215219342also not greatswords I know but they try to do the style
>>215219348>slices you in twain with an unblockable overhand greatsword strike*yawns* that was easy *looks at your lifeless corpse* oh he was using two swords? how lol
>>215219408>unblockableits over again. do you even have the body of the mountain to claim to be able to do such a thing? you worm? here another example of why dual wielding is better than a single sword if you are a good swordsman, I know how to fight with a machete. but if given the chance I would prefer to fight with two against any opponent using anything like a long shovel or a pickaxe, or two knives etc whatever you think about. but that comes instinctively to me, while what comes from instict of you is citing some anime movie I cant possibly block, the criteria being yourself, making me a competent fighter equal to you, a keyboarder who probably has no weapons at all. you are a worm.
I'm still mad.
>>215217788>>215219010That close family members of the woman that his prince loved will be killed if they try to visit her and her baby?
>>215219342There were no greatswords in the kingRegardless, I still really enjoyed it and despite not being perfect there was still an attempt at doing realisitic full plate combat
>>215212737Nowytends, Roxas...
>>215219594What was up with fNed’s accent in that scene
>>215219010For zero Ladee?
>>215218875Both are for monsters.
>>215219594In the books, wasn't there way more full plate armor? The knights in the show looked way too underarmored
>>215212737dual wield is how you tell your retard audience that someones really good with something
>>215219718Yes. The armor in the show fucking sucked, even the earlier seasons had the stupidest fucking helmets I have ever seen. It was a major problem that they never fixed, even in later shows. Really fucking annoying as someone that likes full plate.
>>215219327Ironclad (2011)Not perfect but better than most.
>>215219718Yes there was but only if you were STRONG THEN
>>215219718Yea Rhaegar wore full plate armor, and it's noted in detail how Robert fucking destroyed his armor and caved his chest with his warhammer.
>>215212737>D&D kind of forgotwasn't this after they ran out of books and just started shitposting?
>The most famous knight in the Seven Kingdoms>Famous for using a one of a kind unique large two handed greatsword made out of a fallen start, the blade made of shining milkglass>Noted as being literally unbeatable when he fights using that sword>uh just have him dual wield two random iron swords or something lmaoWhat the fuck were they thinking?
>>215219791That's what a warhammer is for yes.At least Gurm thought to mention that Robert was unusually strong in order wield such a big hammer.
>>215219718There's an interesting scene in AFFC when Ironborn are attacking the Shield Islands and Victarian boards an enemy ship in full plate, sword-blows bouncing harmlessly off him. He thinks that the Reach soldiers are cowards because they don't wear havy armor in ship combat for fear of drowning.Not sure if full plate is THAT effective but that's the kind of shit you see in the books.Or try picrelated.
>>215219752lannister blowjob helmets were probably the worst offender
>>215219348you're the retard here. If real-life conditions are used, actually griping a sword with both hands gives you better chances at fight than your dual-wielding faggotryBy better I mean it's between 1% chance and 5% chance because you still gonna get fucked by a gank squad no matter what melee weapon you gonna use. At least with single sword using both hands you wont be easily disarmed and you can actually block any single strike. Alsoa fter beign easily impaled with several blades, you'll be remembered as someone who actually tried to fight back. With dual wielding they would laugh at a clown mistaking battlefield for a party tricks
Musashi wasn't a real person anyway.
>>215217489Did you miss the whole spiel about how Rhllor-resurrection is a massively traumatic experience that chips away at your soul and changes you?
>>215213563>I'm gonna go for a stab, go for a stab
>>215219348>what makes you think he could with one sword alone?It's a magical sword made of starlight.
>>215219337What type of sword he uses is subject of a great deal of argumentAccording to museums and books on armor a Claymore is a large 2 handed swordThis is based on a single sword donated in the early 19th century labelled "Claymore" that was a 2 handerThe large, heavy single hand sword from Rob Roy is almost certainly the correct Claymore, but museums refuse to relabel their collections because reasons
>>215219839lmao do you actually think the left hand text is anything more than typical 90's/00's fantasy slop?
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>>215219718According to the books, which house had the coolest looking armor?
>>215212737to make him Drizzt Do'Urden tier
>>215219923in real life conditions 99% of you scrubs would die within the first seconds of any encounter you have, while there is 1% who not only can fight with anything against anything they can also use two swords, which is just a step up from a sword and a knife, both tactically and in ability required. also this thing about fighting dirty, that is my point from the beggining. it is expected from a scrub with one sword to try to grab you. can you poke him before him and his friends do? you say using one sword like your opponent is using is better, somehow it gives you a better chance, while actually one handed sword fighting is an equalizing ground, good for scrubs like you. would you mind if I used two swords while you used one if we dueled using plate armor? because if you accepted that I would laugh on your face saying you are already dead. and yes faggot I would accept you using a two handed longsword, technique doesnt change much with scrubs. but the point is, do you think you would be in advantage using one sword against an opponent using two swords? because if the man knows how to use them its over for you. but I think the point you are making is a real medievel battle with someone using two swords, thats depends on so many things that the point should stay within duels or duel like battles like dayne's. again, are you in advantage with one sword against a guy wielding two using plate armor? you are not if the dude knows what he is doing.>>215219820the realism required for someone on tv using a two handed longsword being a skilled fighter not a monster like the mountain just tearing people apart with no effort is just too much to be handled properly. >>215219966yes but its probably a two handed longsword, or he used a shield like everybody else would. or not dayne could just be that good.
>>215220283This one description of him preparing for combat with it >>215219594 in the books notes he used the sword with both hands.>or not dayne could just be that goodHe is noted to be literally the best knight in the Seven Kingdoms and unbeatable when using his special sword.
>>215212737He put points in dual wielding obviously you fucking retard.
>>215220320>he used the sword with both hands.cool. he probably feinted and pierced a lot of the guys using plate armor, and sliced the rest. or, the sword was two handed and he did the same but with the realism >>215219106wanted. I replied to this anon >>215219820instead of him, but the answer still applies. hollywood cant handle a man fighting using both hands with one sword with technique, or one man with two swords for that matter.
>>215216287No, Arthur Dayne was specifically mentioned to have used a large greatsword.
>>215219864MY SIDES
>>215220283>are you in advantage with one sword against a guy wielding two using plate armor? you are not if the dude knows what he is doing.>once again chops you in twain with an unblockable great sword overheadwhen will this runt learn?
>>215220283>in real life conditions 99% of you scrubs would die within the first seconds of any encounter you havein 99% of conditions you would suck a nigger cock. Does it change anything? nope you retard. it's not like we had centuries of people writing their experiences inw arfare and saying that this specific way of fighting is useless outside duels, and it's niche even in duels. You or me not being a medieval swordman doesn't change the thing about knowing facts and having knowledge about shit that happened. Now go to football fans and tell them that they cannot talk about 1st league matches because they're not A rank players themselves, retarded faggotrest of your faggotry is pointles to comment. If we apply real-life experience, no matter how godlike you're with swords, you're not winning agaisnt a gripu who is also experienced in combat aka Ned's wraiths.And if you even hold a sword and swing it for more than 20 seconds, doing tricks like in the shows would not only tire you to hell very fast, but also there's way less force behind your strikes. And your fucking strikes are very limited and predictable, while easily countered by a common, best known by practically everyone strategy of using your overhead slashes to both attacks and parry incoming strikesoh my bad I forgot, you would get disarmed instantly when using those fancy tricks with balancing your swords around your fingers with 0 fucking grip, retarded faggot. So yes, having a single sword where you can apply all your force and you cannot be easily disarmed is way better even in this situation. It's like pistol is better than sword but it doesn't matter because you're getting shelled to your death anywaynow get the fuck otu and stop talking about thing you have no idea about, retard
>>215216394This. They basically knew they got a bunch of 'tards watching this show so they gave zero fucks in the later seasons. I mean did you guys forget the starbucks coffee cup they left in the final season? It was what 10mil / episode budget? Embarassing.
>>215220567>gets impaled on the neck before finishing his move coming from a mile away, while also getting blocked just for safety measuresand so on. scrub.
>>215215754That guy is supposed to be Dornish?
>>215220636real fights are not like your animes, young blood. you will not be reacting to my strike unless you consider your death gurgle after it's struck your head a reaction
>>215220624nah I would win. against you most of all. also you didnt answer, are you in advantage using one sword and the other guy using two? the 3 swords being the same. no you are not, scrub.
>>215220631link to that coffee cup I gotsta see that shit
>>215220636>I've no idea how overhead smashes work>I've never seen or read about one of the most common and effective techniques in swordmanship>I'll stab someone on a very tiny point when he'll patiently wait with his attack and not parry me with overhead slice>the same attack that can also apply to block attacks using the applied force confirmed for not even knowing basics, scrub>>215220691sure thing rajeesh, with your statistically miniscule strength you wouldn't be able to parry anything
>>215220686ok, the mountain, you will cut me in half like butter while I cant just poke you in the neck and block your fucking sligthely longer metal pole from touching me. who is talking anime here? you just cant fight and talk anime things. cutting people in half... you are a fucking moron, literally. also remember plate armor, but forget it you are hopeless.
>>215220714look man you are a fucking scrub and there is no point replying to you anymore. dont ever get into melee fights, use guns because you are fucking retarded.
>>215220731yes you will not be able to block my greatsword over head as I stated earlier and it will crash into you with such force that while I'm not sure if you will come apart in two evenly sliced pieces, you will at the very least resemble T1000 in that scene where he's sliced down the thorax with his head holding on my a sliver of liquid metal
>>215219958lol
Shank two niggas at onceShank one nigga twice
>>215220631>>215220702>>215216394Some autist on /tv/ found it way before twitter normies did
>>215220731you've no idea what are you talking about rajeeshyou're not poking anyone in the neck unless you fight a literal lifeless dollit's funny to read such a cretin, who doesn't even recognize why overhead smashes are used here, because it provides all the offensive and defensive advantages, while dual-wielding guy is forced into defensive stance, while prone to unbalancing. You cannot block or parry strong attacks with your companion weapon yet alone another longsword. Unless your enemy is a teenager and you're a literal hulk so your single arm have more power than his both hands, gravity and whole body propelling the strikewell, you tried at shitpost
>>215212737>2 swords>shitty helm>random tiny pauldrons>no hauberk>no gambesonwhat retards came up with this shit
>>215218875So you're saying the sword that can kill monsters can't kill humans? That's pretty stupid.
>>215220818aint no way... roflthey really didnt give a FUCK huh
>>215212737>now it ends
>>215216394ThisThey grow lazy and ugly, budget went up and interested in making it good went downBy the end of the series everyone was wearing the same black cardboard armor
>>215219680I actually thought they did a good job finding a young guy who had a similar accent to ol' Sean
>>215220731>>215220771a minor force is capable to redirect a major force enough to change the outcome of a battle in seconds, but I wouldnt expect you literal dishonourable coward peasants to understand, on the contrary you will think of force above technique above all else, while being weak yourselves. while men like the mountain are a rarity. you are peasants.
>>215220831>>215220953this was meant for you, peasant.
>>215220631her baratheon armour was always coolest
>>215220953yeach, tell us the secret technique only you know and people doing warfare with swords for centuries until guns overtake them never realized, rajeeshlet me think, ah yes, you gonna use the lightsaber
>>215220953you don't need to be the mountain to perform an unblockable greatsword overhead. it's a matter of chi. tssch *flips hair out of my eyes* you really don't know anything about combat, do you?
>>215220988fucking killing you before your peasant ass get any bright ideas for once in your miserable life. I could talk about blocking, parrying, feints and killing in general, but would that change anything for you? no you will talk about the invincible technique of splitting people in half with your greatsword. you are a literal retard and I am talking seriously here.
>>215215733https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qI1N43N-cPg>>215216111>>215219106
>>215221008no it isnt, its about strength and the other guy not being able to do anything about it, like seeing the future but being too retarded to change it. your attack is shit and you are making me start thinking the showwriters were right about giving dayne two swords, making you retards drool in your retardation is actually funny to watch.
>>215216287>>215216870IIRC Arthur Dayne was played by the show's swordfight choreographer, who had been part of the production team since season 1. He got a cameo and wanted to use two swords.
>>215220902>Nowwy Tendsis this some character from the book or something?
>>215212737Good for circulation
>>215221084strength and chi are both useful in fights but one is stronger than the other. I wont say which it is, because that's for everyone to find out on their own
>>215212737So he can kill two people.
>>215221046>swings a 10 pound sword like it weights 1 million poundslol
>>215220673He's stony dornish. They're basically white. It's sandy and salty dornish that are shitskins.
>>215212737to have double the killing power. And there's no need for a shield because he has armor.
>>215212737>Muh realismSuck a dick you aspie faggot.
>>215220673Daynes have no ethnic relation to the swarthy rhoynish that make up the rest of Dorne. They're one of the more ancient houses and probably come from the great empire of the dawn like the Tarths.
>>215219941Still a cop out and George is a hypocritical hack
The fight choreography in that scene was really gay and cringe
>>215220902>>215221105>Ser Nowwy Tends metamorphized into Elrond from Amazon LOTR
>>215216287No, in the novels dayne, the two sword guy in the op, uses a two handed longsword called Dawn. Its functionally westeros Excalibur. Pure white like milk, made from a falling star, even stronger than the magic valyrian swords every noble house wants, they even put the falling meteor star on his houses sigil. And only the sword of the morning can wield dawn, and he has to be proven worthy. Its why his name in the series is arthur.
>>215214005Ned got lucky. Also such a retarded way to fight. I would like one show or movie where the characters use spears and light shields and work as a team. Also a show where archers and Skirmishers rekt an entire army.
>>215221135chi is kind of a real thing because the mind has power over the body but if it doesnt lead to an effective strength or technique move its useless to think and act about. training anything leads to more chi I guess.
He's badass
>>215214115And people say white privilege is fake.
>>215219752The books are full of descriptions of retarded gaudy helms though.
Dawn is made out of special space metal scavenged from a crashed spaceship (pearl palanquin)
>>215214029It was also ruined because it looked fucking awful.
>>215221709Gaudy helms are fine so long as they are designed well. The stupid shit we see in the show is built for neither form nor function.
ACK
>>215220129that's how books are written? absolute trash
>>215221775look at that, the dual wielding dude trying to block just like an anime doing a cross over his head just like the idiots defending spliting a man in half itt said someone would try to do if hit from above with a greatsword. it shows how much of a scrub peasant even practitioners of medieval fighting are, imagine the average 4channer.
>>215221727Dawn is Lightbringer. It’s pretty blatant.>one of two houses which mysteriously have Valyrian features>wielder of Dawn is called the Sword of the Morning>Lightbringer/Azor’Ahai ended the Long Night and brought about the Dawn.
>>215221775block with your other sword dammit
>>215221927you just can't block a greatsword with a short sword in your offhandeven if you were strong enough, your blade would bend or break
>>215221973you're right, not a chance to defend that.
>>215221775Seems a bit unfair that dual wielder is forced to stand with his back to the wall, and neither side seems to be allowed to move from that straight line. Like yeah no shit there's nothing you can do against a greatsword when you're forced to stand in one spot and the other guy can just cover the entire area of combat with every swing.
>>215222045just roll
>>215222082God patched i-frames out of real life rolls like 1000 years ago, those strats don't work any more.
>>215212737one is for monsters (silver) and the normal one is for humans
>>215212737Where’s a man from a land speaking a language other than Indo European get a name like Arthur?
>>215222201How so they speak English at all in a world without England?And how do humans even exist on a world besides Earth?
>>215212737so he can shank two niggas at onceor shank one nigga twice
>>215222530Should've learned to wield 7 swords at once then.
>>215212737Because it looks cool on my Star Wars gsmes.
>>215216184like another poster said, Jaime vs Ned was decent
>>215219923not if you al Qaeda that shit. They can't stab you if you detonate your bomb vest. Allahu ackbar mother fuckers
>>215215754Lyanna was Rhaegar's property. Ned violated the NAP
>>215216184Oberryn vs the mountain was literally the most well done fight in the series
>>215216461It exists to this very day lol https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oWrLLdug1uI
>>215212737do showfags even know about the Sword of the Morning? Dawn was such a cool sword, why did D&D have to ruin such a kino scene
>>215219106>>215219327we should've gotten a Troy-tier choreographed fight but with greatswords instead of spears.would it have been THAT impossible to train extras on SW tier combat?
>>215216593fucking kek
