I legitimately, no contrarianism, prefer it to NY. Way more fun movie, I do wonder why it gets so much shit
>>215233779It's cringe and doesn't have the cool factor of the original.
>>215233779I like them both. But for different reasons. You're not wrong about LA being way more fun.
>>215233779NY is overall the better movie and LA is almost a reharsh of it EXCEPT for the objectively better ending.
>>215233779>Movie editor. >Delete end credits. >Splice both movies together. >Create long epic movie.Anyone else does this?
>>215233779>>215233805I watched LA first bc of cable and loved how fun it is. Watching NY after was disappointing bc the goofiness was what made me want to go back to this universe in the first place. I wonder if any other directors have done something similar and remade their own movie with a completely different tone; seems like it would be very difficult to pull off bc of audience expectations.
>>215234503Evil Dead trilogy.Raimi gets a pass but Carpenter gets shat on.L.A. is underrated and only let down by the ropey fx.
>>215234726jew vs gentile, tale old as time
>>215233779la is a remake of ny with a much bigger budget. and yes la is a better movie. if he replaced that lame mexican with isaac hayes then LA would be heads and shoulders be the recognized one.
Agreed.The shitty cgi is so primitive that I can't even hate it.
>>215233779only morons hate this film. they're incapable of grasping irony. NY is all set-up, LA is the punchline.
>>215233779because it's a more cringe version of the same fucking movie. it's literally just the same movie a second time
>>215233779best basketball scene in movie history if nothing else
>>215234503ultimate example
>>215233779HORRIBLE CGIThat's why. It has one of the best endings of all-times, doughimmer.
>>215234083I've wanted to cut Evil Dead I, II, and Army of Darkness into something coherent, but I'm too busy lately.
>>215233779To me, New York had the better villain. The Duke > Cuervo Jones
>>215237062That's the best one and everyone knows it. Those who want to be seen as deep say that the original was better. Heck, I think Part 3 is way better than the first one, but no one is ever going to touch the magic that happened with 2.
>>215237107>YOU'RE THE DUUUUUKE!>YOU'RE....>YOU'RE A-NUMBER ONE!
>>215233796>he doesn't like the surfing scene
>>215233902>>>215233779 (OP)>NY is overall the better movie and LA is almost a reharsh of it EXCEPT for the objectively better ending.> NY: Better overall atmosphere, they obviously didn't film in New York, but used some dilapidated neighbourhood to film in? Also James Cameron did a lot of New York matte paintings. > LA : The sets look arguably worse , most like like they are back lot sets. The atmosphere isn't quite as good. The early 90's CG effects looked kinda bad then and still look bad. It's the same story structure as the first movie with a few different twists. In some ways the plot is better than the first and it does have a better ending. I thought the score was pretty good. Overall it feels like a 'larger' budget B-movie. I still like LA.
>>215233779the same grumpy gen xers that hate this kino also hated the prequelssome people just adore misery
>>215237431TRUTHI merely like parts of it and that's enough.
>>215237265It’s the only good part of the movie, maybe the surgeon scene as well. Overall EfNY is better, more tight and focused, and better production design as well.
>>215236712lol he's actually kinda akward he looks like me playingstill that last shot it works you know he's fucking deadly seriousalmost cringe kino
Prime Goldie Hawn was something else, let that be said.
>when he surf the tsunami up the cliffkino
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>>215237879Fleet White said that in the 1950s
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>>215237762The ending was really good
>>215233779It's a self-aware 1990s retread of the original. Not bad but NY is better
>>215233779Rare based take. LA is absolutely better. Better stunts, bigger budget, and more fun overall.NY had the original aesthetic down and more of an initial element of mystery, but fell flat on the action and pacing and shoestring budget.
>>215237033>once you figure out this place, it's really not so badshe relaxed, big mistake
>>215237080>HORRIBLE CGIEh... Product of it's time for 1996. CGI and FX in the mid and late 1990s was still in it's awkward teen level stage. ID4 won the the Oscar for FX that year and it was still blowing up miniatures and using practical costume/animatronics https://youtu.be/vjFG-4Ge668?si=E0MGXNbbz6CIZuwvSo bad CGI or dated CGI/FX from decades ago is fine. The real BS is just cheeping out on it now. Being if you don't have the budget then scale it down.
>>215234083So do you play the first scene after he enters new york in escape from ny, then the first scene after he enter l.a. in escape from l.a. and so on?
It rocked
my issue with these movies is that they're absolutely genius but they're too short. Same thing with Soldier. Kurt Russell is an amazing actor but he doesn't get enough time to shine.
the isolated, cozy, yet spooky and hellish atmosphere of NY is almost impossible to beat. LA just looks like an open air prison in the shit way compared to the "quarantine city" feeling of the first. more of a feeling he's going into some kind of zombie apocalypse no-go zone rather than the ghetto like the sequel
>>Some people think you're already dead, Snake. Some say you never will be. 'Cause you may have survived Cleveland. You may have escaped from New York. But this is L.A., vato. And you're about to find out that this fucking city can kill anybody!
>>215239826Great scene
>>215239834you couldn't even tell it was NY. meanwhile LA was full of LA landmarks and locations
NO ONE that saw NY before LA thinks LA is even worth watching In fact. If you like LA you're a brain rot faggot
>>215240142>landmarks and locationsRick Steves judges filmsLol...what faggotry
>>215240280there we go, I knew you were indian. you probably dont even know what either city looks like. a movie called escape from ny or la shouldn't have locations from ny or la? walk in front of a train like your brother
>>215240142it wasn't NY, it was a prison made out of the ruined shell of NY. that's the whole point. he also lands on top of the WTC and doesn't exactly have time to go visit broadway or central park while he's trying not to run out his clock and die to some bespoke military virus
NY has the godlike 80s New York rot atmo, mixed with nostalgic 80s urban atmo. Words cannot describe it. But when a heli circles over centrla park with some skyscrapers in the bckground, you just know it.LA has the godlike urban post apoc hat was NEVER rivaled by anything. The entire set feels liek Fallout came to life in a good way. Its also often overlooked how fucking chaotic neutral Snake really is....as a MAIN CHARACTER. Let this sink in. You never EVER get characters liek this anymore.
>>215233779It feels like the end of an era of filmmaking
NY has some iconinc moments, sure. But LA has classics. Road to the Stars jingle. The " thought you'd be taller" meme. The almost prophetic conflict. Che as a villain.The surfing. Th basketball. Holy shit it never ends. And the 11/10 ending? Holy MOLLY. I modeled parts of my life after that character. I do appreciate though that NY Snake is rougher, has a cooler outfit, is more somber and the simple cassette ending is, while not as impactful as LA, simply cooler.
I want Escape from Earth, with my head canon script.>South America obliterated the US>in the new wasteland an old Snake is forced on his last mission>capture a working US ICBM silo to destroy the remaining South American occupation forces>in the end, the silo is actually to be revealed a space port>Snake leaves the godforsaken wasteland of the former US into space
I copied several of Snakes mannerisms into my average life>scan women from top to bottom whenever i meet them>"The more things change, the more they stay the same">urban camo pants >"<insert position> of what?">"Fuck you im going to Hollywood...!"
It is without a doubt one of the worst movies I've ever seen and I like NY. Granted I generally don't watch actually bad movies, but still.
The submarine scene feels like a pinball machine
>Escape from L.A. has the worst surfing sc-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3CF3QER_h4
Escape from NY could have really used a gritty late 80s sequel, the original is kinda hokey and could have been improved upon in the ultra violent Robocop phase of Hollywood. LA is okay but mostly too silly and also not many people knew what Escape from NY even was to justify an ironic late addition
