What was his critical mistake?
He actually did spare some expenses
>>215241250Chili doesn't go with sea bass
Welcome to... Thunderdome
>>215241250not genetically engineering the carnivores to be harmless
didnt build enough moats
Not paying Nedry enough and giving him more support staff.
>>215241250he was a senile old fuck
>>215241435In the book, this wouldn't have mattered. The raptors were breeding regardless of this check. Since they still never told Nedry what him and his team were designing till after the park was opened. They didn't discover the raptor population increase. The entire system fails cause it counts for 5 animals and when it reaches 5 it stops.
>>215241250Using incredible technology for a fucking amusement park that wasn't fully thought out.
Hammond was bad, but at least he wasn't Dodgson bad.
>>215241250He spared too much expense
>>215241250He didn't pay his own son well enough for IT support.
>>215241250He said too many things to the dinosaurs. I would listen to what they have to say, and that's what he didn't do.
>>215241578lmao at gemini patiently trying to explain this to you
>>215241521Oh yeah, meant movie only. Then again the raptors at a minimum were breeding anyway so may not have mattered.
>I spared no expense nigger
>>215241728Yeah, even if Nedry had been loyal they still would have been totally fucked when the park opened and the breeding dinosaurs they didn't know about got numerous and confident enough to start attacking people.
>>215241250having a bazillion dolar theme park with dangerous dinosaurs and deciding her could do a test run with four people on staff.
>>215241250Using that type of cloning technology for anything other than pharmaceutical.
>>215241820"I'm totally unappreciated in my time."
>>215241521>/tv/ - Television & Film>iN tEh BoOk...
>>215241521Yeah well guess what, here we discuss movies not gay ass books.
>>215241282So much expense was spared.Like. Easily 80%.Way more than should have been.
in the game, he was a drunken rapist clearly trying to make it up to society later in life.(Richard Attenborough reprised the voice, so i consider it canon.)
Bringing back the dinosaurs.Without them, so much of the conflict is gone that there wouldn't even be a point in making the movie.
hysterical female dinos
The premise of this (and the increasingly dumb sequels) is that such a park is impossible and a testament to the arrogance of man.In real life...zoos exist. Zoos with dangerous animals. If some eccentric billionaire dreams of making Predator Park, and buys some private island in the middle nowhere and flies out some Grizzly bears and lions and crocs and shit, doesn't hire proper experts to watch over them, doesn't have proper safety mechanisms, and then they escape and kill a few people, we don't ban all zoos from ever existing because this guy was a retard.
>>215242462If lions were the size of trailers we might.
>>215241521It was a bit unbelievable that there was a herd of adult raptors roaming around the island and they never attacked anyone. Also the first raptors were kept in a small enclosure, how did nobody notice them breeding? How did the babies get out?
Not checking these digits
>>215241250Attempting to open a dinosaur theme park was certainly up there
>>215243408we've sent multiple people into space, which has a ton of risks. and yet people generally consider 'going to space' one of humanity's greatest achievements.
He poured champagne into tumblers even though there were champagne flutes right there
>>215243432Does space eat people?
>>215243438GRAINIER!
>>215241250>Welcome..to Epstein's Island.
>>215242242this could be a banner
>>215241250Sparing every expense
>>215241250Being too based. Hammond's mentality is the same mentality that put men on the Moon (inb4 "Hurr, we didn't land on the Moon! XD").
>>215242462The premise is that assumptions are the mother of all fuckups. Hammond and co didn't know enough to know what they didn't know, we don't understand dinosaurs and genetic mutant monsters the way we understand bears and lions.
>Nature is good! "Life finds a way!" It solves everything! Man can't create dinosaurs!>Yes we can.>"Chaos theory!" If a butterfly flaps it's wings in India, it creates a hurricane in Florida!>Kill all butterflies?>No! I'm just saying, you don't know what you're doing!>CONDORS!>No! Condors' extinction is mankind's fault, not nature's!!>BEAVERS! Beavers have influence on the world around them! You don't claim "kill all beavers!">I'm telling you; I hate mankind! Every mistake on planet Earth is mankind's fault!!>Meteors aren't from planet Earth.>You're not allowed to create, John!! Creation is no good!>MEDICINE! Mankind invents medicine and suddenly you're SCREAMING, "don't use medicine!" Suddenly, you have a headache and you're SCREAMING, "don't give me ibuprofen!" Is that what you're saying?>Noooooooooooooooooooo!
>>215243438why is that microscope assembled backwards
>>215243725And taking subs to visit the titanic
>>215241250Not paying his own son a fee commensurate with the magnitude of the job he signed on for. All dinosaurs aside, Hammonds failure to treat his first creation and son as well as his second was what caused his downfall. It's Shakespearean really. The genetic and DNA motifs weren't just for the reptiles
>>215244143He uses it for stargazing.
>>215241250Bringing back the dinosaurs.
>>215241250Most of the animals in his "Jurassic" park were in fact from the Cretaceous period.
>>215241304LOLThat's SO clever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Chili..AND..Seabass!Get it?? It's like you didn't understand *Chilean*.HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!It's funny because it's relatable!!!!!!
>>215244315so? it's just the name of the park.>Sea World>has animals from lakes and rivers
>>215244143the top bit rotates
>>215244348Not to mention the "world" is made of land.
>>215241374haha! dat nigga b actin all tuff n shieeet till he fell in dat wata haahahaha GOTEEM!!!!
>>215244344>relatablemore like reel-a-bassand serve ON a table
>>215241282fipbip
>>215241820They also had a remote staff of 500 indians, just like they would today
>>215241250Trying to play Hammond as Scottish for some reason
>>215244459The Attenboroughs are British... what's the difference?
>>215244534Coming from southern England doesn’t mean you can do a convincing Scottish accent
>>215241250>no security>no backup systems>no evac zones>didn't replace the dei IT hire with someone competent who knows about hacking crap
>>215244348>>215244369but it's next to the sea
>>215241578so the trex was the good guy all along
>>215241250The book is pretty clear on what went wrong specifically, that Hammond cut corners too much by relying too heavily on automation with minimal human staff. The movie only sort of glosses over this and a lot of normies thought it was the hurricane that caused the disaster.
>>215244534Sir David Attenborough is going to turn 100-years-old next year...
>>215244315>>215244143>>215243646>>215243438I liek u niggers
>>215241250Well he lied. He totally spared some expenses. He could have easily had a backup way to keep the animals in their areas. He also could have installed kill switches in them. Love this character though. We need more people like him irl. He really wanted to make the world more beautiful.
>>215244143Dinosaur cells are very big so he needs a reverse microscope to look at them
Playing God.
>>215241250Not cloning a harem of Cleopatras.
>>215244086True
>>215244958I mean, I don't think people liked the idea of "radio transmitters surgically implanted in animals could kill those animals if we turn on this radio tower" was exactly a profound and comfortable idea for a 1993 audience.The closest we had to cellular phones were the big bricks you might have in your limousine car if you were a millionaire CEO in a city. We didn't have Wi-Fi.
>>215241521Something was breeding in the movie. Grant finds the hatched egg when he and the kids are walking back after the Rex attack. I suspect it was the raptors, but Spielberg just kind of forgot about that plot thread because he is a hack that only cared about making a PG-13 monster movie.
>>215245203It also starts with people obsessively watching the dig, followed by people watchig the computer screen like they were zoomers and a new tiktok movie just dropped.I feel like this movie was pulled in a dozen directions, that's why at the end of the day it's just "meh cool movie" 7/10 slop. They should have let Crichton direct it, Spielberg just whored out after Jaws, unfortunately.
>>215244176Nah.
>>215245971It's really telling how now that Spielberg is given shitty scripts he makes slop. His directorial "genius" was only ever propped up by good screen plays. Once those ran out he had no setpieces to build around.
>>215241374poor guy got distracted
>>215242217Kek
>>215241619>>215244264My favorite underrated and under known part of JP lore, the family connection
>>215244344Kek
>>215241374You just know that Lion is pisssssed
>>215241250Trusting people to much
>>215241250>Welcome to my amusement park>What's there to do here you ask?>No, there's no roller coasters or corndog stands>But we do have hundreds of gigantic vicious flesh-eating lizards>Bring the kids
>>215241578>his daughter is hot
>>215241250He hired Nedry.
>>215241569I imagine that he saw the amusement park as more a means to raise the capital and public support to continue his research. Resurrecting a 65 million year old species isn't cheap you know.That said, for the sake of public safety, he would probably have been better off starting with herbivore dinosaurs rather than a FUCKING T-REX
>>215244348But the bulk is from the sea and all the big attractions are.
>>215243358They were very clever.
>>215241521The camera calculation thing was incredibly stupid way to keep track of everything
>>215248475Selling advanced gene editing software/experience needed to somehow piece together a dozen different species from one mosquito and some frog DNA probably would've kept the lights on better than an expensive ass zoo. Should be the other way around, the amusement park is the vanity project while the research is the money maker.
>ERM, did you know T. rex didn't roar?>ERM, did you know Velociraptor wasn't that big and had feathers?>ERM, did you know Dilophosaurus didn't ACKtually have frills or spit venom and it was bigger?
>>215244571Not the one we have here in Wyoming.
>>215242217book, manga, anime, these words I can say, but t b h s o y is a step too far
>>215248475>>215249812Read the novel. The Park itself was just gonna be a giant advertisement for InGen products. Crichton thought of everything.>“What they have done,” Dodgson said, “is build the greatest single tourist attraction in the history of the world. As you know, zoos are extremely popular. Last year, more Americans visited zoos than all professional baseball and football games combined. And the Japanese love zoos—there are fifty zoos in Japan, and more being built. And for this zoo, InGen can charge whatever they want. Two thousand dollars a day, ten thousand dollars a day … And then there is the merchandising. The picture books, T-shirts, video games, caps, stuffed toys, comic books, and pets.”>“Pets?”>“Of course. If InGen can make full-size dinosaurs, they can also make pygmy dinosaurs as household pets. What child won’t want a little dinosaur as a pet? A little patented animal for their very own. InGen will sell millions of them. And InGen will engineer them so that these pet dinosaurs can only eat InGen pet food.…”Even if the Park itself doesn't make sense financially for being too expensive, the merchandising and rights alone would be enough.
>>215247661You're pretending Nedry was Hammond's son? That's not the case.
>>215249855Yes.
>>215249821Why is it Jurassic Park that attracts these types of no-fun, know-it-all faggots? You don't hear shit from nobody about how a shark wouldn't attack boats in Jaws or how you actually can't hear sounds in space in Star Wars. It's always Jurassic Park. And then they act like everything needs to be changed to fit modern science and paleoart sensibilities. Annoys the fuck out of me because I like the way JP dinosaurs are as iconic movie monsters the same way I think the Xenomorph is cool as shit, and they weren't that accurate to science to begin with.
>>215249855Yeah that's much more sensible but also makes hammond eviler which probably wasn't their goal for the film (for some reason).
>>215241250>Welcome to Cretaceous Cove
He had literally two people running the entire goddamn park. He couldn't have spared more expenses if he tried.Also the park was designed like shit. Electric fences to hold dinosaurs? How about just putting dangerous animals that can't climb walls in a fucking pit. Zoos figured this shit out over a hundred hears ago.
>>215249967Congrats, you got the point of the movie just like everyone else.
>>215249967Go easy on the G-sharps.
>>215249878You posted anime. You don't get to call anyone a faggot and I'm not going to read past the first sentence, chimo.
>>215250002I'm sure you couldn't read anyway, brownoid.
>>215249878erm excuse me but did you know that the empire had something called an interdictor class star destroyer that was specifically created to pull ships from hyperspace and stop them from re-entering it, and the "holdo maneuver" thus makes absolutely zero sense from a lore perspective?
>>215250010Before you can bother.
>>215250021Keep sperging.
>>215249898Hammond being evil would dampen the initial wonder of Jurassic Park, and honestly that would make a worse movie (at least for me). They immediately showed the cracks in the system anyway, so it's not like they undermined the message of chaos vs control.Hammond being benevolent also drives home the point that good intentions doesn't necessarily mean things will turn out good. That's a more compelling idea than "evil businessman gets his comeuppance" that we've seen a million times already.
>>215249898>but also makes hammond evilerI think it's still in line with his character being a jovial, optimistic tycoon who naively dismisses the potential catastrophe waiting to happen.
>>215241250Condoned sex slavery.
>>215249965look at those little faggot arms. he'd never beat a real boxer in a fight.
>>215244315This.
>>215244344yeah, kick his ass sea bass!
>>215250021>hiroshimoot
>>215250021
>>215250078Designing a living, breathing species which could only ever derive nutrients from food that you produce is not at all a joyous but bull-headed magnate move but a greedy and malicious. There's no way you could spin to the audience that he convinced even himself that making millions of pet animals dependent on his product just to live is a good thing.Selling the merch and pets is fine but making it so that sparky the pet compy needs his special InGen Soulstorm brew or else he dissolves into goo is just fucked up.>>215250053I can see that, it definitely would've made his scenes a bit less memorable if he wasn't actually a true believer.
>>215250090You wana go bitch?
>>215250090Which is exactly what happened.
>>215250354>There's no way you could spin to the audience that he convinced even himself that making millions of pet animals dependent on his product just to live is a good thing.We invaded Iran for oil, so it is possible I think
>>215241250Its more blatant in the book how dangerous result oriented pushing and trust of technology is. Theres a whole major plot line about how they didnt realize theres more raptors than they counted because once they hit their goal for raptors the computer just stopped counting and didnt monitor the extras
>>215241250If a single insider can bring down your business then you have made more than one critical mistake
>>215241250eating my ass!*hits the dab*
>>215249821The Dilophosaurus argument is justified, they did that dino dirty
>>215250833They made an exotic looking dinosaur even cooler and there's nothing wrong with that. The only thing they did wrong was continue to portray it as a midget when we should have had an adult show up to be an antagonist by now.
>>215241250>What was his critical mistake?Making a theme park instead of a zoo. Making a theme park instead of a game preserve (where people could pay a brazillion dollars to hunt an animal.)Making a theme park at all. Theme park people are notoriously terrible at accommodating the needs of animals. It's why all the recorded human deaths by orca whale are all in theme parks. If anything the premise and the animals being psychotic human-killing machines is very accurate: living at a theme park fucking sucks. Using the cloning tech for dinosaurs first and not instead leeching gazillions of dollars off of government grants from various countries, and the UN, cloning recently extinct animals, pleistocene creatures, and cultivating a global reputation as a "global environmental hero" for reintroducing passenger pigeons and mammoths while becoming the richest man on the planet.
>>215250848>I thought you were one of your big brothers!Even Nedry knew the Dilos grow bigger. Adult Dilo could definitely carry a movie. Imagine a group of humans being stalked by one. It blinds them one by one, forcing the humans to slow down or abandon their blind companions. Tons of drama as the humans argue what to do, who to leave behind, having their mental state pushed to the absolute limit. Meanwhile the Dilo is just being an asshole in the background.
no critical containment plan. You want grenade launchers n shit
>human history>REEEEEEE THEY GOT EVERYTHING WRONG, THERE WEREN'T NIGGERS IN MEDIEVAL EUROPE>paleontology>Umm, well actually I don't care about realism, I like my cool dragon toys, who cares what really happened
>>215241250Making dinosaurs
>>215244365Why would it do that?
>>215248475Herbivores are far more dangerous than carnivores. Carnivores have to factor in a risk reward system and if there's risk of significant enough injury they'll leave a potential prey alone. They cannot afford injury. Whereas, herbivores, being prey animals, go full fight or flight. And depending on the species they'll choose fight more often than not. And that fight is always life or death. If they lose they die. If they win they live and even an injury in the process is worth the risk. I would 100% rather have a loose TRex than a triceratops.
>>215251283Funny, I always thought it was Nedry just making a nervous generalization, basically saying>Oh, I'm glad it's you and not a T. rex.But damn I really want a film that lets the adult Dilo have its moment.
>>215251606You're on /tv/. Aesthetics is everything. Aesthetics is also the most significant reason to be right-wing instead of left-wing, and why black people shouldn't be portrayed in media. There is no meaning to life other than to create and observe the aesthetic.
>>215241304it wasnt until i heard Guss from breaking bad saying it that i realized it wasnt chili and sea bass
>>215251932Bro you are like a woman who prefers being around bears to other men. Same level of intelligence.Every herbivore animal on planet earth had to learn to fear man before it even fucking reacted to human beings, let alone felt threatened by us to the point it needed to defend itself. Your "all herbivores default to fight or flight" reasoning is completely retarded.
>>215250848the real dilos would be much more terrifying
>>215252976This is a Jurassic Park discussion, xir.
>>215241250Finding out what /tv/ is
>>215242140Anyone have a webm of him working on the computer sneakily?
>>215244638NO NO NO
>>215241250He hired one guy to run his security tech. It should have been a small team with each capable of running independent checks on the whole system. Even if one or two of them wanted to shut things down for their shitty reasons, the rest of the team would notice and be able to prevent it. Probably should have had backup systems and generators in different sections of the park too.Also a team of armed handlers with high capacity tranqs and tasers, could have even conditioned the dinosaurs from birth to avoid certain sounds or smells to add additional barriers.Basically the idea of the park is very doable, just needs better security. But then there wouldn't be a movie.
>>215241250I still don't even understand how the park was supposed to work. The various dinosaurs have massive habitats they can hang around in, but the jeeps only get to see a narrow slice. Unless one of the dinosaurs JUST SO HAPPENS to be standing right at the perimeter next to the road, you're never going to see any of them. Which is exactly what happens in the movie during the parts of the tour they go through. So okay, are they going to put out a goat for the T. rex to eat every single time a jeep goes by? I just don't see how this logistically makes any sense at all. You can have a safari tour where people are willing to ride around in open environments where dinosaurs might kill them. You can have a zoo where the dinosaurs are in small enclosures where they're visible to visitors. But you can't have both large habitats and have the dinosaurs visible to spectators from behind the safety of walls and fences.
>>215253375shut it down
>>215253375they use shock collars to make sure they stay near the fence
>>215253375That's the way normal Zoos work, too. Sometimes the Animal is sleeping somewhere in their enclosure and won't come out, so you just don't see it right there and then.
>>215250719This happened right after the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor.
hes the embodiment of the false god, his critical mistake was believing he was god. heavy handed imagery too
Ironic cannibalism. He served Seabass, the bully homosexual rapist from Dumb and Dumber, stuffed with red hot chili peppers in his ass while the song Dani California was playing.
>>215255194deepest lore
>>215241250Being an ignorant white piece of shit racist colonizer.
>>215253375>So much for our first tour: two no-shows and one sick Triceratops
>>215253375Relax and enjoy a dinoburger in the park cafeteriaTry the sea bass
