One of the most misunderstood and unfairly hated character in tv history.
>>215258741maybe it's because im a zoomer, but i kind of relate to him a little. he's still a prick sometimes though
>>215258793I relate to him too.
Hes me
>>215258837No fucking Ziti?
>Grows up in a household where his dad his a murdering, sociopathic manchild while his mother is a materialistic enabler>Neither of them give a fuck about AJ and always shower Meadow with attention>AJ has no role models and only connected with Livia who told him life is meaningless >Tries to actually better himself in the finale by joining the military but Tony bribes with a car and a low level position at a porn company AJ honestly would've just been a typical Bart Simpson like kid in a regular household setting
>>215258741I hate him because he is me
He was me, I was a xbox enjoyed too
>>215259069YOU COULA COOKED FUCKED STEAKS ON THE RADIATOR
>>215258741Life is absurd
It's possibly the saddest archetype in all of society. The son of the self made rich upper middle class striver dad. He doesn't quite know where he fits in. Is he an aristocrat, or does he have to get his hands dirty? He's babied like an aristocrat. But there isn't enough money to guarantee him a life on it, so he has to eventually pretend to swim. But he's just pretending. Guaranteed insecurity and a lifetime of pain. There's a reason why downwardly mobile upper middle class boys are the world's most ardent socialists.
>>215258741Hes tony but shows his depression with sadness instead of rage. "Why can't we all just get along?" Is said by both of them to therapists. if you didn't get this from a first watch, ur media illiterate
the thing you realize on a rewatch is just how similar he is to Tony, but with any of the charisma or toughness or street smarts stripped away. he's what Tony would be if he'd been raised rich and in the suburbs and going to private schools.
>>215259203Fuck you that hit a little too close to home
>>215258741Tony should’ve just introduced him to the family business. He’d never be a captain but he’d have made a comfortable living>but he wasn’t suited for it like Tony was!Tony is AJ with power. They’re the same character, much like Meadow ultimately becomes Carmela.
>>215259274He tried, but he did nothing, zero! a big fucking jerkoff!
>season 1-3 AJ: annoying faggot>season 3-6 AJ: absolute kino machine How did he manage it?
>>215259334I meant 4-6
I think it was refreshing to have a really stupid guy be clinically depressed.
>>215259462I dont think he was really stupid
>>215259203get a job faggot
>>215259577Im good thanks.
Was he based or cringe for giving his bike away to the Latin gangstas
>>215259069>Bart Simpson like kidSo, another sociopath?
I wanna go to the Mudvayne concert.
>>215259203why must my character be dissected every time I come on this site?
>>215259274AJ didn't have the cruelty in him that Tony did, as shown with the acid thing and the black guy.
>>215258741>One of the most misunderstood and unfairly hated characterYour haircut matters so much in life. People have no idea. If you LOOK like you suck, people are going to think you suck, and they're going to treat you like you suck. Just because of your hair.
>>215259703stop looking for sympathy then loser
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>>215259933Slipknot was better
>>215258837>start doing this
What makes the Sopranos so great even in this decade?
>>215260006She’s too brown to be into that. She’s definitely more of a bleached gal
>>215259955aj was pretty fashionable later on in the series. Ya he's gonna look like shit when hes a kid, everyone does. But he looked good with long hair and short hair so idk what the issue is.
AJ is a waste of a character. The writers never did a single interesting thing with him.
>>215260501He was very interesting and relatable
>>215258741for once I'm not kidding when I say I relate to him and that's why I hate him all the more for it. I know what that little faggot is thinking and he is just a pussy. He's worse too really because I never had any money growing up either and watching him throughout the show is like watching what would've been my life had my parents bent to my every bad bitch break down.
>>215259203You literally just described me to a T down to the socialist sympathies LMAO
this was brutal
>>215260720Is rican pussy that good?
>>215260720Why didn’t it work out?
>>215260123jamal ginsberg would like a word
>>215260513>very interestingWhy not say very very? Then you might have fooled someone
>>215260720he is literally me although I never made it far enough to provide for the single mother I was after so I think I dodged a bullet in reality
>>215260756even desperate bitches aren't into white knights forever. AJ could've enjoyed it for what it was, a young fun fling with a more mature woman. but he had to cling on tight and fuck it up to the point he wanted to off himself instead of moving on. many many such cases.
>>215258793The whole point is he was raised by a selfish and destructive generation (boomers), and that made him a whiny faggot (millenial). He's an allegory. It's natural to hate millenails but you have to accept they're a product of their upbringing.
Dont lie most of us are AJ.
>>215258741All he wanted was some fuckin' zitti
>>215261442except for the money part and constantly bagging models and literal daughters of billionaires AJ's actor mentioned that chase was confused why people hated AJ so much, so i wouldn't be surprised if there's a fair bit of chase's childhood in AJ's character.
>>215261442I grew up poor in a shitty black neighborhood. I am not an AJ.
>>215260771The Hasidic homeboy?
>>215260501He's Tony Soprano but instead of being abused by his mom and forced in to the mob by his dad, he was spoiled and emotionally neglected.
>>215261554>He's Tony Soprano's antithesis.
>>215261531I think AJ gets a little too much flack. He acts like a dick when Tony was in a coma, but they ignore it's all because he can't process what happened and breaks down about it. By and large he's no worse than Meadow.
>>215258741as a fellow suicidal second son, I relate.My dad is italian and so similar to Tony that watching Sopranos was kinda chilling at times, specially when AJ tries to off himself. Tony never gave a fuck about him.
>>215261608OH POOR YOU
>>215261554>abused by his momOlivia didn't do anything to Tony that Tony didn't do to AJ. He was constantly threatening him. I don't think it's a coincidence that despite all Tony's claims, Johnny was never shown as physically abusing Tony or the rest.
>>215258741>fat dope
>AJ: "CANNED clam chowder?">Janet: "Sit down and eat, god damn it."
>>215259969so you need to have a job to be worthy of sympathy? aint that some bullshit, it aint enough you guys earn an income (at will) to do whatever you want with, but you also get treated like a human for doing so? and NEETs are subhuman? poppycock
>>215261706Janice* shit
>>215259203there are much sadder people than than, stop feeling sorry for yourself loser
>>215261773>Mikey RecessThat no accountability deranged sow. I hope she rots. Poor Bobby had to fuck that slob before he was whacked out. I would have obsessed over trains also
>>215260123Bro she literally has an entire character arc about getting blacked
>>215259203>saddest archetype in all of society
>>215261608I think my life is shit but it could be worse, I think I'd drown myself in olive oil if I were Italian
>>215259953He could’ve been a nepobabby Bacala type
>>215261892Even Bobby had violence in him and had to collect for Junior.
>>215259203
>>215260756He was a pussy ass white boy, she was a feisty latina. It was exotic for a while but eventually she wanted a real man.
>>215260756He was a nice guy nepotistic simp. Even though he was getting his shit together (somewhat) and was fairly happy, he was still a college dropout running a pizza joint. Everyone else in his family was either making money legally or illegally.
>>215259203>There's a reason why downwardly mobile upper middle class boys are the world's most ardent socialists.Are they any more? I thought that was women now.
>>215260756Racism. There's a whole scene where her family pulls a reverse on the hasidic homeboy situation.
>When AJ visits Meadow's college, notices all of the students in higher academia, and realizes he'll never be able to fit in with them
>>215262270I've been there. I visited my brother at cal and had the same experience
>>215259162such is the existence of kefals
>>215259203literally prime material for conquest overseas, the brittish empire and the spaniards knew this.Look at hernan cortes
>>215261442I am closer to meadow minus the mafia boyfrien
>>215261719he's if you lay at home crying and doing nothing but self pitying you are subhuman boohoo youre rich but not enough to do whatever you want for life, pathetic
>>215260123She's Jewish. At least her actress is
>>215262688her mom is Cuban
>>215262270I had that happen. Growing up, I always expected to experience it but it still didn't prepare me.
>>215258741Carm babied him too much
>>215258741Him and Shinji both
>>215261638kek
>>215258741What i really liked about the end state of Meadow and A.J was, how they both succeeded and failed at the opposite things.Meadow won career wise and materially, but failed spiritually (Got married to a lawyer and is a lawyer herself, but will be a crooked one defending mafiosos. Also defends mobsters with bullshit lies)Meanwhile, A.J failed materially and academically, but is spiritually honest. Hates violence, is steered away from the mobster lifestyle. Knows the mobster lifestyle is extremely hypocritical and bullshit. Might be the only one in his family that dies with a clean soul. His opposite was Jackie Aprile jr. The bozo he would'ce become had he turned down the wrong path. Now that i'm thinking about it, his initials are literally J.A. jr, vs A.J. jr. Very allegorical. bravo Chase
AJ crying about his breakup reminded me of my brother who had a similar story
>>215263744You bottomed out.
>>215263744>Hates violence, is steered away from the mobster lifestyle.He was ready to vendetta junior in a public space
>>215263793Yeah, but he did-dent.
>>215263793AND WHAT DID HE DO? ZERO NOTHING!! A BIG FUCKING JERKOFF
>>215263744The sacred and the propane
My headcanon is after the final episode AJ takes one of Tony's rifles and canon's his head
>>215259203>There's a reason why downwardly mobile upper middle class boys are the world's most ardent socialists.I just thought that was the general belief system of failed normies and insecure beta-faggots. Men who've never been in a real fight as a kid irl.
>>215263744I don't think people discuss Meadow's ending enough. Despite all of her intelligence, her inspiration for getting into law was seeing, what she believed to be, her father's harassment by law enforcement. I feel like Jackie's sister, calling her out on her hypocrisy at her brother's funeral after getting his head blown off.
>>215263793You know and I know he never could have done it. It was a half hearted gesture, largely spurred by that girl he was trying to bang.
>>215263793He was never actually going to do it, he dropped the knife as soon as he saw junior. Dry heaved after, failed to kill himself...he's incapable of hurting even himself
>>215259203>ownwardly mobile upper middle class boys are the world's most ardent socialists.the downwardly mobile middle class are the hardest of right wingers you retard. their whole youth is being told "do this and that or else you'll have to be a wageslave" and as they slowly fall into the working class they were raised to hate they lash out and are willing to sacrifice anything and anyone to stave off proletarianization. they're the retards screeching about how socialists will make you share a toothbrush with the whole neighborhood because they know socialism would strip their wealth
>>215264325A BIG ZERO
>>215263744>Hates violencehe gets an erection when his car is set on fire in the finale, he even mentions it to his therapist
>>215264217Wasn't she originally gonna be a lawyer to represent refugees or some shit? IIRC there was a scene where Anthony was talking to Meadow. He finds out that she's switching from the refugee shit to basically being a mob lawyer, and Anthony looks a bit disappointed. Maybe i'm wrong, though.
>>215258741if you want to understand the very sad psychology of anons who hate AJ well… >little boy grows up with no father >or maybe a really shitty father >he sees the sopranos on tv >kneejerk reaction is “I WISH TONY WAS MY DAD” >they see how entitled AJ is >their angry little jealous heart cries out IF I HAD TONY AS MY DAD I WOULD HAVE BEEN FINE ironically what they don’t know is just how hard it is to live up to a full grown alpha male’s standards when you’re a little kid. the negative correlation between playing sports and hating AJ would be off the fucking charts.
>>215264359The hardest right-wingers are the ones who grew up in poor areas with lots of crime and chose to reject that lifestyleThey're the ones who become actual facsists and neo-nazis and shit because they were exposed to violent crime early in life and know how it ruins communties
>>215264473The ignore a lot of the shit Tony does. The incident in the kitchen in S2 was a real turning point for AJ.
>>215264419I don't remember that but she worked in the poverty law center for at least one season. I think she equated refugees with no money or legal power with Tony. I remember her telling him over dinner about her witnessing the state crushing the individual.
>>215264412He was about to fuck his girlfriend.
>>215263744and i will forever be fascinated by anons who think meadow marrying a nice guy is total and complete subjugation to the mob… but AJ getting a job at another mob bosses porno company as a gift to his own mob boss dad… that’s spiritually pure! meadow became a lawyer of her own volition and it took loads of effort… AJ got handed the job after trying to commit suicide.
>>215264575>meadow marrying a nice guy is total and complete subjugation to the mobIt's more the fact that she was verbally defending and justifying the italian mob multiple times in the show.Retard or ragebaitingCall it
Was Vita attracted to Finn or just wanted to tell you didn't see nothing, or both?
>>215264630This.
>>215264633It was bat night, was he gonna do sex stuff with the bats?
>>215264575>and i will forever be fascinated by anons who think meadow marrying a nice guy is total and complete subjugation to the mob…He's the son of one of Tony's goons. They were hoping she could do better. Also it's awkward for Tony specifically because he and Patsy both know he had Patsy's twin murdered.
>>215264633Probably both. I love how he's got one of those mlb shirts that are stylized like a professional wrestler's merch.
>>215258944lol and checked
>>215264633i got the impression he wanted to intimidate finn into silence while also fucking him at the same time
>>215264671>Also it's awkward for TonyMobsters don't think much about that shit.
>>215264684Finn was probably right.>maybe he wants to fuck me, then kill me
>>215261436growing up is applying this to boomers as well
>>215264802it's harder to feel sympathetic towards baby boomers because they had it so easy, they're the generation was it was literally impossible to fuck up
>>215261436>He's an allegoryNot really. It's pretty exclusive to them. Plenty of other kids in the show are portrayed as more or less normal. They show it's the Soprano's who are toxic, save Barb.
>>215258837Seems like a needlessly complicated way to kill yourself.
>>215264977nta but I do agree that AJ become an allegory for how the writers saw middle class millennials. Particuarly in season 6.
>>215265051>middle classI don't think the Sopranos were middle class, anon.
>>215265079Then what were they?
>>215265092Upper Middle
>>215265105yeah that's part of the middle class bracket, just with a slightly bigger hourse
>>215265092Upper class. Middle class people don't have multiple cars, houses and boats.
>>215265134>Middle class people don't have multiple cars, houses and boats.They did before 2008
>>215265161No, they didn't. Middle class is the upper range of twice the median income for the state. In 2023, that is around 50K for NJ. To quote Chris, the casino operation Tony gave Tony B alone was a 100K/yr job. Tony was a high-end capo to start the show and a boss from S2 on. They were absolutely not a middle class household. They weren't in the upper 1%, but they were definitely upper class.
>>215262010is there a webm of this scene?
>>215265298A CHIT CHAT ROOM?
>>215265223Bro you're just poor, only an Indian living in the slums would view the Sopranos as "upper class"
>>215265332No, you're just a moron.
>>215265344Do you genuinely think the Sopranos are upper class in their suburban McMansion? lol, they're just middle class plebs
>>215265344This
>>215265370Mobsters have lots of money, but they don't flash it like niggers cause that's how you get spotted. A foreman might drive an Escalade, but if he's got tons of ice and a giant compound with a Royce in the driveway, the numbers don't add up. They can't live over the means of the person they're pretending to be.
>>215263916>headcanon>canon’s his headLOL
>>215263793>>215264412>>215264575Oh poor you! Maybe it would have been best if AJ didn't do anything at all...
>>215259162maybe you should read some Nitch
>>215265370culturally and psychologically tony saw himself as middle classbut anyone making more than 120k year from 1997-2009 could not be considered anything but upper class, cost of living be damned
>>215266992You oughta know sweetie
>>215258741Nah he's a bitch ass nigga
>>215258741A year ago, I was suicidal and I just waiting to finish the sopranos to kill myself, and when AJ tried to do it, I thought fuck it and decided I would hang myself later that night but I got a surprise visit from my uncles and cousins, I couldn´t do it, eventually the feeling died out. I can´t stand AJ but I think we have a lot in common
>>215259203This is such a perfect description of a certain type of person. But AJ is too apolitical to get into socialism, unless you count that time he got into quoting poets he didnt really get in a vain attempt to seem deep
>>215263744WRONG. Meadow just became her mom (mob wife) because despite all her liberal feminist soap boxing, her intelligence, her career driven ideas, she was just a rich girl at heart and wanted a rich mobster wife. She makes compromises at the end which seem small, but the logical end is her as a stay at home mob wife buying gaudy shit. This is forshadowed earlier when shes at Jackies funeral service and scolds her friend for blaming her brothers death on the their own family. She herself knows it too, but she repeats the lie and really sells her soul here. AJ is different. Hes directionless, aimless, and has no real aptitude for anything. His dad has zero confidence in him as a man. It starts off with him just not wanting AJ in the mafia because hes not cut out for it, but AJ is just a dumb boy who needs to be taken care of. His dad gets him a job as an errand boy on porno movies for studios the mob runs and AJ gets to LARP out being a hollywood bigshot or something. He has no convictions and is just making sleazy slope as a make work program from his dad. The Sopranos is much darker that normies seem to realize. Theres a wholesome coziness to it for some reason that fools a lot of people.
>>215262581You let a black jew bang your boipussy?
>>215264575She took loads alright
>>215267577I liked when he worked at blockbuster, reminded me of myself
>>215265161No we didn’t lol. >>215265332>>215265370>>215265855retard>Middle-income households – those with an income that is two-thirds to double the U.S. median household income – had incomes ranging from about $56,600 to $169,800 in 2022https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/16/are-you-in-the-american-middle-class/
>>215268378Tony was clearing over 200k
>>215265370Owning a garage of multipel lambos isn't upper class, it's rich. Tony had multiple boats, bought cars on a whim, and had a beach house. A middle class family in 2000 (2 adults with teaching jobs) could not afford these things you are out of your fucking mind
>>215260720She's a brown/black (or some kind of mix of brown/black) in the ghetto who lived in an abusive relationship. They act like they hate it, but they actually like it deep down. So after he "saved" her from the abusive relationship life she became bored and wanted to go back to Tyrone slapping her around for leaving the stove on again. This is how noids think, they don't care about kindness or etc.. In fact AJ's kindness to her actively disgusted her. If he had beaten her she would have stayed while pretending she hated it.
>>215258741It’s because uncle Vito molested him.
>>215268859Why wasn’t this ever explored on the show?
>>215267450He was passionate about environmentalism.
>>215267577>She makes compromisesMeadow jerked off on the radiator?
>>215259203>There's a reason why downwardly mobile upper middle class boys are the world's most ardent socialists.What the fuck? Where did this observation come from? In my experience it's mostly just lazy richfags that larp as commies.
>>215259203I can't wait for these commie 'intellectuals' to get the Pol Pot treatment.
>>215258837>>215258944>>215260079I fucking love /tv/
>>215269188>Chud wishing death on regular peoplekek
>>215269231Marxists are not regular people.
>>215269231>regular peopleI didn't see them mentioned anywhere.
>>215269286Who?
>>215258837If I pulled that off, would he die?
>>215259577Hey dad
>>215258944based lmao
>>215271035It would be extremely panic inducing
>>215259203being born into a middle class family doesnt make you an aristocrat retard. you assume the standard is having a nigger life where youre on welfare with no dad lol. and tony wasnt self made. his dad was high up in the mob
>>215262555cortes was a great man. not many people could do what he did
>>215267577This. I think the last episode was with both kids in their respective cars says a lot about their character. AJ who supposedly cares about the environment, replaces his fire starting SUV for a M3 BMW. Clearly just for attention and clout but he claims it's a smart purchase because it gets him down the freeway fast.Then there's Meadow who shows up in a brand new Lexus (just like Chrissy in the first episode). Her inability to park causes her to miss her final moments with her family and highlights her inexperience in the real world. She wants to believe she's independent and competent but in actuality she's still a heavily reliant on others.
>>215258837kwab
>>215271352well you gotta admit those spics all got slaughtered
>>215271431That finish doesn’t work for me brother
>>215262555Only if they're groomed to be ready for it from a young age. Tony never took initiative in AJ's life to actually teach him masculinity and self-sufficiency, always brought him up in a lifestyle which would inherently alienate him from any of his peers, so even if he did go into something which would give him honors he would be behind from the start. Shit that other people learned before they were 10 he'd be having to pick up on the fly. And while its possible its a fucked thing to get around. Militarist societies of yesteryear took kids away from mom at around 7 or 8 to learn their future duties for a reason
>>215260720It was really odd that he was so bothered by this. It’s not like aj struggled to get young hot pussy and he should have noticed the warning signs from a mile away and treated it like a short fling.
>>215264977Barb was a babe.
>>215258837>killing yourself in a way where your mother is likely going to be the first one to find youDisgusting shit. Lost all sympathy at this moment and I don't even like Carmela.
>>215259203Thanks chatGPT
>>215260385>everyone doesHaha imagine being an ugly kid. I bet you didn't even get to go on special camping trips with your uncles. Sad.
>>215259274>Tony should’ve just introduced him to the family business. He’d never be a captain but he’d have made a comfortable living
>>215272711Grok. Thats Grok. You can always tell the ElonBot
>>215271306There's a prequel movie. Tony grew up in the hood in the 60s and 70s. They were just starting their crews; his dad and uncles.
>>215273452>>215272711You're both schizos.
>>215273509mainy saints is just a Newark riots movie that Chadlse threw the sopranos IP on to get greenlit
