>Almost every single movie can be broken up into Gnostic themes>The symbology rarely fails>Try to apply Christian or Muslim themes to films and they fail completelyIYKYK
>>215285661Favorite Gnostic-kino? For me, it's Vanilla Sky.
>>215285979Willy Wonka's Chocolate FactoryLego MovieTruman Show
>>215285661>Gnostic themesSuch as a woman has to become a man to get into heaven?
>>215286016The heck are you talking about
>>215286008>Willy Wonka's Chocolate FactoryTIL Willy Wonka = Saturn. Need to rewatch with that in mind.
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The "drugged out wannabe alchemist" variety of retarded schizo is so grating.
>>215285661Star wars a new hope is the free mason fable of azazel/samael... luke skywalker = lucifer morningstar. theres a whole dissertation out there on the net.
>>215286170I don't read this shit but out of context it looks like they started a self-sufficient colony and Mary was slacking off like a woman so Jesus said "don't worry I'll make sure that lazy bitch hauls her share of lumber."Can someone who reads this shit tell me if I got the context right?
>>215286170Actually this is Jesus saying that all tomboys go to Heaven.
>>215285661If you insist on any singular world view you will always find it conforming to your expectations. Remember always that perception dictates reality. So if you change your perception, you change your reality. Once you can learn this one simple trick you can snap between perceptual filters to sort the extraneous details around you ever day. Its the reason why a devout christian and ardent atheist can both look at the universe and see a perfectly reasonable self coherent universe staring back at them. Doesn't matter if they're incompatible with each other, they literally never co-exist because they're mutually exclusive models of subjective reality. Then you begin entering a state of the mind observing the mind, which then begins to expand to a fractal awareness of self, the mind observing the mind observing the mind observing the mind observing the mind... all the way down to infinities.
>>215286170Wew that's some heresy lad. It's no wonder the Gnostics were purged.
>>215286259>>215286170https://www.biblicalarchaeology.org/daily/biblical-topics/bible-versions-and-translations/the-sayings-of-jesus-in-the-gospel-of-thomas/>These bizarre statements are two of the 114 sayings of Jesus found in the Gospel of Thomas. The Gospel of Thomas is a non-canonical collection of the sayings of Jesus reputed to have been dictated to the apostle Thomas. In “The Gospel of Thomas: Jesus Said What?” in the July/August 2015 issue of Biblical Archaeology Review, New Testament scholar Simon Gathercole examines what these 114 sayings of Jesus reveal about the early Christian world in which they were written.
>>215286565They weren't. Early christians were all gnostic, because it was a weird occult death cult. When they became legitimized they could become evangelical in earnest, but in doing that they just start teaching literal text because its easier than saying "dude you have an egg in your head lmao."Also when gnostics are talking about male and female, its about spiritual energies more than actual gender. The divine hermaphrodite isn't literally a he-she split down the middle, its a person who has completed their soul with the other half and become whole beings that can leave the prison created by a blind crazy god screaming into the void.
>>215286565You will never escape tahe cycles.
>>215286565Gnostics were purged because the gnew too much and it got in the way of the slave control religion narrative
>>215286565>its a person who has completed their soul with the other half and become whole beings that can leave the prisonDoes this mean you can never achieve gnosis without a gf? Is this why the demiurge actively makes me nervous around girls?
>>215285661Do people practice this religion out in the open or is it like kabbalah where jews just do it in secret?
>>215285661Redpill me in gnosticism.
Most religious themes are ; 'god making up problems which didn't have to be made'
>>215285661stfu pseud
>>215288488if you know, you know :^)
guys it is very serious.God is trying his best.He has a lot on his plate ok?it's very serious. Tucker Carlson needs you to choose God.
Schizos are obsessed with the demiurge and here's why
>>215288488foundational religion that Christianity was once rooted in, but then the sand people needed to spin their webs, so they started writing their own fan-fiction sipn-off series about Jesus (who existed in Gnosticism first)You have a divine creator, often called Monad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monad_(Gnosticism)Unlike Christian God, he is by himself in some higher dimension you can literally never visit.So he created lesser beings called Aeons, in male, female pairs called a Syzygy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SyzygyThis is where we meet Jesus, who was paired with the infamous Sophia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sophia_(Gnosticism)Monad, from his higher dimension watched all his kids happily existing in what Gnostics call the Pleroma https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PleromaBut one day, Sophia had the first Woman Moment and decided to go off on her own because she wanted to know what creation was like.So she created an imperfect retard called the Demiurge, who then proceeded to create our plane and reality, and all its suffering because he's delusional and schizo.Monad wasn't too happy about this, so he kicks Sophia out of the Pleroma and says "Not my problem".And that's the basic intro creation myth .
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>>215286179Reminds me, this is a great movie.
>>215288488gotta free yourself bruh
Fuck OP and fuck everyone like him too
>>215285661The Gene Wilder Willy Wonka. Apparently one of only 2 films pic related favored (the other is the Cremaster Cycle).
>>215288742Enjoy hell.
>>215289428just discovered this Sophie singer. Yeah, I'm feeling a little bit sad now bros.
I don't care about this thread
>>215289536can't agree on something that is known to have rampant fan-fiction at the highest level. Profiting off future bible editions and edits today, and the old churches running PR campaigns because they didn't like people (rightfully) calling jesus a magician.
>>215289536Lame, reductive and boring.
>>215290048Your schizophrenia will not be a viable excuse for your blasphemy when you stand at the foot of the throne of judgment.
>>215289410What wrong? Grown too comfortable with the shadows on the wall. Are you afraid of the truth?Essence precedes existence. There is no such thing as a physical object. You zoom in and theres nothing there, it's created in the psyche (mind-soul). Light without eyes illuminates nothing.
>>215290095pride is chief among sins
>>215290095>anything i don't like is schizophreniaChristianity is a religion spawned by man, with no coherent source of truth. It's all decided by personalities.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Council_of_Nicaea
>>215290146I simply state the truth. >>215290175Christ is Lord. Your blasphemous words are dust.
>>215285979>Favorite Gnostic-kino?Butterfly effect
>>215285661why that nigga shaped like a penis with a lil hairy hat on the head
>>215290245>I simply state the truth.you're doing the pride thing again
>>215290265snake = deceptionlion's head = pride (arrogance)
>>215290266It is not pride to inform you that your soul is in mortal peril. You blaspheme against God. I will pray for you.
>>215290276>215290276
>>215286170Similar to the passage in the canon where it is said people should cut their dick off to go to heaven.
>>215290566>215290566
>>215290565>>215290593Somebody's jimmies are rustled.
>>215288742this is too detailed, how are people supposed to know all of that?
>>215288503>215288503
What even would Muslim themes in a movie be?
>>215290621And we haven't even gotten to the part where Jesus sets off to save her either.
>>215286522based
>>215286522don’t forget your hotdog tomorrow!
I've tried so many times to listen to or learn about esoteric bullshittery. It just always feels like a bunch of random nonsense. Am I hopeless?
>>215290761It is random nonsense. Entertaining it will only make you stupider.
>>215290761you're probably going too deep too fast.eso stuff has a lot of fundies you're probably skipping too.And you also have to realize everything is written in layers of layers of layers.Example: The Hunchback of Notre-Dame is a very important esoteric book once you read up on the author.
>>215290761For example >>215290825 this guy is totally cooked. Not a coherent thought left in him. Occasionally a stray neuron will bump against another up there and some schizobabble will spew forth but it's just an automatic reaction. A word salad seizure. Not sentience as you and I would understand it.
>>215289539Check out Heaven Suspended
>>215290884Semantic thought in general is animal schizobabble, it's just some happens to be more conducive to longevity of the human organism than others. Textual spirituality is designed to provoke experience of a non-conceptual nature, in the same way that the experience of taste or colour is at its core not something that can be directly transposed into words.
>>215288488World is a fuck because God is a fuck. Also OT God is not the true God, he's a deluded imposter (possibly malevolent)
>>215286188Tell me more on this azazel samyaza duo story
>>215287625Yes
>>215288488Man is a rising beast and the jews worship a demon. They don't misunderstand God, they pray to an actual demon. Jesus was the snake from the Old Testament. Eden was a farce and man must aspire to ascend.
>>215290245Your religion is dust. Jesus outright told you he will be with you until the end of the age (2000 years) after which everything he said will cease to be effective. He fucking told you this.You live in a world where Christianity is being killed exclusively by ideas Christianity invented and popularized. Why is fag marrage illegal exclusively in places where Satan's lies reign supreme but where Jesus's light has been heard everyone is turning into a fudgepacker?
>>215291616lmao
>>215291616lmao>>215288488all you need to know is that its refuted right away in Genesis where God looks upon all he created and proclaims it was good
Internet gnostics are even more embarrassing than internet tradcaths.>Yeah I self-enlightened myself through taking drugs and media literacy. I'm far above the common weal of humanity. Fucking rick and morty shit.>>215290761>Am I hopeless?No, it sounds like you have a brain and aren't fooled by fake profundity.>>215290825>Example: The Hunchback of Notre-Dame is a very important esoteric book once you read up on the author.The shit I read here, lol
>>215286188Lucifer is Christian fan-fiction capeshit. Vader is Jesus, the Emperor is the Demiurge. Jesus vanquishes the Demiurge (Yahweh) and frees humanity from his influence.
>>215285661Reminder Aslan is the demiurge
>>215291478>jews worship a demon.They also try to jew him constantly.
>>215290761No, but it's often pretty lame when you get deeper into it.
>>215285661Gnosticism still makes more sense than orthodox religion >creation is flawed because it’s basically a cosmic mishap and the real god is too transcendent to get involvedvs>god cares about your everyday lives, what you eat, who you fuck, but refuses to intervene to prevent suffering and injustice because [insert mental gymnastics]
>>215291519Just had a precognition of this image in my mind several days ago despite this being the first time ever seeing this image. What does it mean?
>>215285661That's because trying to apply gnostic themes is just boiling it down to>character is stuck in a shitty situation and gets out of it by wising up
>>215286746>Early christians were all gnosticThat's not even remotely true
>>215285979PleasantVille is fun.>>215291918>My foreskin loving god says he isn't evil despite his crimes in some old book so he's good okay?Fucking idiot.
>>215292661Says who? Your fucking preacher? The church who made these decisions and censored everything before your grandparents were even sperm cells? You guys are idiots and the fact that you think some fucking jewish rapist god is going to send to hell to burn or be raped or whatever sadistic fetishes you christians have is the only logical proof needed to know your god is a fucking prick.
>>215292060I did key in on this one once. The Star Wars OT was basically rewriting the Bible. However I think of Luke as Jesus and then the true God intervenes and doesn't allow his son to be sacrificed by the false God worshipped by the Jews (Palpatine). The New Testament was how Palpatine would've had it. He would've hung Luke on the cross. Disney then ruined it by killing Luke anyway and having him come back in spirit so Disney was retconning Lucas's rewriting of the New Testament. I definitely don't see Vader as Jesus though. Vader was a vicious murderer like God used to be (the Great Flood, etc). Instead of using God to redeem mankind through Jesus. Jesus (Luke) redeems God by giving him the opportunity to actually do something good (kill the false God aka Palpatine.)
>>215286565The eternal angst of Christianity is that it's an evolved form of gnosticism. Gnosticism is>The spirit is good, the material is bad = Kingdom of heaven > Kingdom of rome/earth>The supreme good is associated with the spirit, the supreme bad is more associated with the material = Satan doesn't run the world but the world is a vale of tears that belongs more to Satan than to Jesus.>Salvation is through some esoteric special knowledge = transmuted into the special knowledge of being saved/accepting Jesus.>>215292661I agree not all of them were, but no small number were. And the reason gnostics are treated with such unabashed ravenous hatred (see the Cathars, the Manichaeans) is because 'traitors get the bullet first'. You have less to fear from some heathen foreign religion than someone similar but different to you. Also because you can realize gnostics would have the same insufferable holier than thou complex of a progressive vegan today and just imagine dealing with that.The broad strokes of gnosticism just make for great storytelling in media because it's crass vulgar material(ism) bad, noble selfless wise spirit good. It's Gandalf vs saruman/Sauron, it's jedi meditation vs Empire/Vader, it's spiritual Na'vi vs material-harvesting RDA.I have trouble thinking of movies that actually run with an anti-gnostic message of "the material > the spiritual". Even stuff that shits on religion will generally point to the religion being too worldly, not spiritual enough.
>>215293567I thought Christianity was about achieving a dialogue with the τέλειος, the platonic Perfection that is Omnipotent and Benevolent, and the material world is the grounds in which to achieve that dialogue and a deliberate creation of this perfect will. Gnostics take the same stance as Buddhism and think the material world is bad and you should feel bad for having any attachment to it.
>>215291540>Why is fag marrage illegal exclusively in places where Satan's lies reign supreme but where Jesus's light has been heard everyone is turning into a fudgepacker?Because of satanic atheism. Next question?
>>215293221You sound like youre angry because youre retarded. Seek Christ.
>>215293930>Does not debunk point at all>Angry at a rapist godOnce again proof that christians are brainlets. Why don't you stop worshiping the foreskin lover who tortures people who don't like him.
>>215294060You dont have any points to discuss, youre just an angry ranting retard. The love of Christ would help you heal.
>>215286016It applies the other way around as well. Duality must be achieved for ascension.
>>215294111>You have no points to discussYou a clearly a blind brainlet high on YHVH's cum and you proved my point on christians and the fact that they can't hold a debate since they know their god is a dick. Thanks.
>>215285661Every fiction is a fake world with a demiurge
>>215294154Like i said, you dont have any points, just blind, retarded hatred. My point is that God is love and Jesus can heal you.
>>215294241Are you just brain dead mate? A broken record? You proved my point already that you love your foreskin loving god. But keeping repeating mindless rambling mate and proving my point kek.
I had an ego death and met God ama.
>>215288742people will really believe all this schizophrenic desert book shit instead of just saying "we don't know"
>>215294441You'd think a force like God wouldn't even be able to be comprehended by humans in any way.
>>215294284Your point is that i love God? Okay, I love God. Are you ready to get over being an angry ranting retard and love God too?
>>215294457Why would something intelligent enough to design the universe not be intelligent enough to communicate with its intelligent creations?
>>215294441As I proved with this moron>>215294241christians are brainlets who can't let go of YHVH. You would think they be like "yeah i have no idea how god works" but no he has to be an evil jewish miser who wants baby penis. Like what the fuck?
>>215294473Mate clean your eyes, take out YHVH's cock out of your mouth, then reread my posts.
>>215294483I'm sure God could but probably never did. Why would it only tell a few people thousands of years ago and not keep that going or not reveal itself if following the wrong religion ends in eternal damnation?
>>215285661based OP making hylics seethe
Gnosticism like satanism is one of the few things I find genuinely pathetic.>I hate X religion so much >Will I reject it wholeheartedly?>No, instead I will adopt faggy subversions of it that are beyond moronic
>>215286380dream... I don't feel jealousy or anger. I just want them to be happy. I hope I get something as this in my life.
>>215288480It's basically a belief system that doesn't have a mainstream institution attached to it, it's inherently anti-institutional.The point is that life is a trial and to escape the trial you have to achieve spiritual and intellectual enlightenment.
>>215285661The movies of Mustapha Akkad are kino and muslim through and through.
>thing>thing, gnostictruly the weeb japanophile of the esoteric world. so fucking annoying its unreal
>>215288488its retarded and everyone on 4chan who talks about it just like it because evangelion lazily and shallowly borrowed terms from gnosticism.
>>215292536I think that Platonism is better than Gnosticism because it's purer and doesn't have as many flowery or fantastical elements. They're very similar.
>>215294856Sure thing Mr. Hylic.
>>215285661MORTAL KOMBAT
>>215291616Now closer. Under the shade of one (1) single tree, you'll find billions of beings suffering, engaged in a constant and endless fight to survive, all so you, mouthbreather, can say "huh huh muh pwetty twee"
>>215291540Many branches of Christianity, especially Evangelicals are basically a death cult who have been saying the rapture is coming tomorrow every day for hundreds and hundreds of years. When you have this mindset you can justify any kind of horrors in the name of God's will.All of the desert cults are like this, Christianity, Islam and Judaism have their own special day of supreme victory and everything that's fucking up the world boils down to different elites from these groups attempting to engineer the apocalypse because they have the money and power to do it.
Abrahamic religions and their offshoots are cringe.Buddhism is based.
>>215290761It's some truths wrapped in a thick sheet of schizophrenia.For an example the identification of the old testament's god as one that is exclusive, vengeful and genocidal, and then contrasting it with whatever rabbi yeshua preached, which is inclusive universalism, forgiveness and peace, is a legitimate criticism that cannot physically and logically be reconciled by the main branches of christianity. It is the biggest flaw of the religion that is always being brushed off as "you're just being a marcionite heretic, shut your mouth asap!". There is no debunking, no reconciliation, no explanation for the calls of chosenite exclusion and full-blown blanket genocides of entire nations, that these mitzvot should stay permanent and never be forgotten. It's only explained in a limited manner with the claim that this was a different covenant, but the validity of it is nevertheless preserved and it really was yahweh's grand plan, it's just that he had a little bit of a phase where he was less divine and all-knowing than he typically is so he made a small mistake. Happens to the best of us I guess.
>>215295137>w-why don't the people i'm mocking by pretending to hold views I don't not take me seriously and change their way of life for me?!Genuinely pathetic.
the hylic often mistakes declarative knowledge for gnosis. it's possible to have a deep understanding of the world, and yet miss the point anyway
