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Does "fake nudity" bother you in films? Including body doubles, digital face replacement and CG nudity. Or is it just another part of filmmaking?
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>>215292132
I think of the actress as less of a whore at least. Or a very expensive one.
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>>215292132
Yes.
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>>215292132
No biggie. It really doesn't matter.
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>>215292132
What a retarded thread. Fuck you.
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>>215292132
Let's be honest, nobody can even tell in 99% of cases so they're none the wiser anyway. If 1 in 10 faked nude scenes look crummy like OP, that's still 9 more you didn't even notice.
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>>215292132
I don't care about nudity
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>>215292132
I ultimately don't really care but it is indisputably dishonest.
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>>215292132
/tv/ now thinks nudity is a BAD THING because humans must be clothed and sexless at all times
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>>215292290
Rampant sexuality creates bastard children. Which is most of (You). I'm saving the world here, buddy.
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Reminder that there were people here who not only thought this old ass bitch was attractive on GoT, but also argued that they didn't face replace her when that episode came out.
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>>215292323
>Reminder that there were people
only normies care about strangers this much. go back to reddur if you want people to pat you on the back
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>>215292132
I'd say it's just another part of film making, but I'd prefer convincing prosthetics over CG.
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>>215292323
No one argued that.
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>>215292314
News for you, sex does not stop because nudity isn't in a TV show
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>>215292132
> Peter Pan (2001)
After Wendy's younger brothers take a bath, they ride their dog back to their bedroom, and are tossed into the air. Their naked asses were digital. That might have been the first digitized nudity in film history.
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>>215292397
>Hey, anon, I need you to have those ten bare ass frames rendered by the end of today
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>>215292132
/tv/ is already retarded and thinks literally any instance where an actress's face isn't front and enter MUST be a double, even if she was seen in the same shot, or throughout the scene and it's clearly the same person anyway. Like cameras are mounted to someone's head normally in scenes.
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>>215292132
Does the guy who sends his retarded brother in to the darkened bedroom to fuck his gf bother the gf?
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>>215292132
>CG nudity
is this even a thing in movies or TV? how would you even know?
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>>215292392
actual retard
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>>215292553
You're doing nothing but pointless bitching about "nude scenes". It accomplishes nothing.
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>>215292345
Having a good memory isn't a normie thing, it's a non-retarded faggot thing.
Guess you can't relate.
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>>215292132
>body doubles, digital face replacement and CG nudity.
Give examples of each
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>>215292132
Lena Headey wasn’t sexy enough to play Cersei
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>>215292132
It is understandable that actress does not want to
become a whore and indescently expose her body in public shamefully for herself and her familly. Yet she agrees to play such role. It already is whoredome.
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>>215292132
it's fine as long as the double is hot and worth looking at. if they're going to be fat and wrinkly, then the actress might as well have done it herself.
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>>215292673
should've been that blonde chick from Spartacus
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>>215292673
She would have been if she started ten years younger.
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>>215292673
They made Jamie and Cersei like 40 in show instead of being 28 or so like they are in the books.
Not only did it make Cersei unbearable to look at despite everyone acting like she's gorgeous and they still try to fucking use her as a bargaining chip via marriage as if that would ever fucking happen, but it also completely destroyed Jamie's character even before the bad writing set in.
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no
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>>215292132
>and CG nudity
this sounds like something /tv/ made up and never actually happened
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>>215292323
She was good till her haircut.
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>>215292132
It's not like anyone even notices in the first place.
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>>215292682
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>>215292673
>>215292817
Cersei was literally meant to look ugly during the Walk of Shame. She has been lying to herself for years and denying every evidence that she's lost her hotness. She suspects her servents in a plot to shrink her clothing. The Walk forces her to confront that child birth took a toll on her body, that she's indulged in way too much food and drink becoming a fat slob like Robert, age has made her tits and skin sag. She's not the beauty she once was and it makes her freak out and feel shame all the more potently. The fake nudity ruins the entire scene since it's just Lena's static face cgi pasted onto someone else's body. You see no emotion. Then it's ruined even further by making it some sort of inflection point where Cersei is now le strong woman and becomes super queen. Rather than get killed off after she beggared the realm, lost the navy, restored the faith militant, and made as many bad choices as possible thinking she was smarter than everyone else.
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>>215293984
Her manface is the problem, her hair is irrelevant.
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not as much as "nudity but no boobs" bothers me. If you want to shock someone with nudity, you have to actually show something shocking. You can't be coy about it. If you want to be sexy, you actually have to show something sexy.

You know, horror movies had scenes where the girl took a shower or a bath because they were cheap, sleazy movies for horny teens. Now they have shower scenes with no nudity because they seemingly forgot why the shower scenes existed in the first place.

And I will never not be angry about prime Anya Taylor Joy using a disgusting, overweight body double in The Witch.
>>215294030
absolutely pointless.
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>>215292673
Lena is attractive just too old and the hairstyle for the wig didn’t really suit her
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>>215294620
>overweight
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>>215292132
Yeah just dont bother
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>>215292132
you're supposed to degrade the big name star, not outsource it to some nobody that you can easily leverage, it's a vile practice
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>>215292132
i can only wank over hardcore pornography, a glimpse of titty in a tv show isnt enough to get me going
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>>215294620
>not as much as "nudity but no boobs" bothers me
This. The whole thing where they want the attention from nudity but aren't willing to actually do it, it's the nudity version of stolen valor. Same when girls do red carpet looks that seems risky but are pretty much superglued into the outfit so no possible slip could occur. They want the accolades of bravery and boldness, without actually being willing to risk anything. It's mostly just pathetic. Either do it or don't do it.
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>>215294030
Why even bother with a shot like this if she's not willing to show anything?
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>>215292132
>>215292247
Can anyone explain why people who make movies never post here about what is happening? This is where the people who care are trying to figure out what the future holds. Is there a future for kino? If yes what does it look like? Is it completely fake? Is all nudity fake in 5 years? In 10? What about in 50? Is there any future left for non capeshit? What about the 2 hour adult drama about real life things? Who will be the actors on the level of Robert De Niro and Al Pacino and Willem Dafoe?

This week I was confused. I thought anon was joking. He said Leo had just signed on to star in Heat 2 as Val Kilmer's character. Not only was he playing the young version of Val's character he would look like Val in the film. I thought this sounded ridiculous. I know they make actors look younger. I saw that Robert De Niro mob movie. It wasn't good but that was seven years ago. But looking like an actor that just died tragically while being the top actor in the world today? In a sequel to one of the best 100 movies ever made?

It didn't make sense. Is there no one who makes movies who can tell us what is going on? When Cruise was making Top Gun Maverick it was later shared he demanded Val and Val alone play his character again. Val was dying but Cruise said had he died during filming, his character would not be played by another actor. Now what is the difference? It world make more since for Leo to play Val in Top Gun Maverick a popcorn blockbuster than in Heat 2, a likely heist film masterclass. I read that both Pacino and De Niro are in talks to return.

A rumor is going around that Heat 2 might be entirely AI including the articles about it. It is proving hard to figure out what the fuck is going on. Is this The Matrix? A Matrix sequel?
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>>215294438
>>215292673
>>215292817
Nick disagreed, recent super chat
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>>215296178
Cos it's 4chan
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>>215292132
all nude scenes are pointless
zoomers will save cinema
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>>215296178
>old man angry at new technology
go to bed, gramps
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>>215292132
only when it's noticeable
like Jessica Alba did a shot in her underwear for Machete 2 but they digitally painted it out and made her PG-13 naked. in context it wasn't noticeable at all but it is when you brighten the hell out of it
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>>215292132
I fucking hate bra-on sex scenes
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Whatever man. It's better than nothing.
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>>215292132
why the fuck in every instance do they brighten up the faces when they do this?
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>>215297560
>brown nipples
Not my Brie!
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>>215297494
other way round, they put clothes on her for green band trailers
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>>215292397
That's quite a specific example you chose there, why don't you take a sit.
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I have a humiliation/degradation fetish so the walk of shame would have been great were it not for heady's ugly face weirdly imposed onto the real actresses body. Would have loved to have seen the real footage, the actual actress was much prettier than the aging heady in 2015
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>>215292132
Game of Thrones is nonstop nudity from every actress, why did they suddenly fake this scene?
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>>215294438
Her actually becoming Queen with noble houses being loyal, content smallfolk, etc. is such bullshit. Robert's camp did a bunch of autistic justifications for him becoming King via some Targ grandmother (IIRC) and this was for a man who was exceptionally popular with the people and had half of the Great Houses and their most important vassals on his side. All that autistic hand wringing over Targ blood giving his claim credence for a tall, handsome, physically courgeous and charismatic war hero male. Cersei never would have sat that throne with an iota of stability or support lol
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>>215292176
It's not like she had not shown tits before.
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>>215296178
Only female nudity will be faked.
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>>215298581
name five examples
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>>215292132
I think nudity at all is stupid.
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Natalie Portman having a body double in Black Swan was very disappointing
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>>215292132
>>215299241
And in Your Highness. Terrible movie in general.
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>>215299400
says who? she showed her ass in that one film
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>>215299561

‘‘Twas fake. A body double no?
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>>215298212
Scenes of forced female nudity seem more common in movies from 20+ years ago
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>>215299594
No way, that was a big deal when she did, it would be known if it wasn't her
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>>215292132
I don't care anymore because it's all shit and a dead medium.
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>>215292132
It's all about what the actor is comfortable with and what you can get away with, given the audience.
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>>215299561
yeah
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>>215292132
Game of Thrones had more of this than people are willing to admit. They don't just do it once, folks.
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>>215292132
I can see in the age of intimacy coordinators and whatever other crap there is it can be useful and convenient but beyond that I don't really get the point of doing a nude scene with an actress that wont go nude so then you got to either hire a double or or sfx people
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>>215295694
Because it added 5 million dollars to the movie's box office return
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>>215296178
>This is where the people who care are trying to figure out what the future holds.
Lol, lmao. This is 2025 4channel. Nothing of value has come from this board in over 11 years
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>>215300402
It doesn't even show anything
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>>215300520
I guess you were too young to see a trailer in 2010
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>>215292132
Vera Farmiga used a body-double in Up In The Air, and it's extremely obvious. Did Vera really have to insist on her body double being so much hotter than her?
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I think actors who don't take their clothes off are fucking frauds and have too high an opinion of themselves.
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>>215294030
i like how they tucked her stomach in too
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Do body doubles have to be disclosed or can they just straight up pretend it's the actress nude in the film even if it's not?
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>>215292132
What bothers me most about this scene is that they covered Hannah from head to toe and we never got to see her bobs
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>>215292589
He’s right though. Your take is idiotic.
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>>215299561
She is very open about it: www.salon.com/2011/04/18/natalie_portman_your_highness_body_double/
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>>215302559
>get hired to do a job
>"NOOOOOOOO! I'M NOT DOING THAT!"
>have to hire additional people
>have to pay for additional SFX work
Fuck these cunts. If you aren't willing to do the job, don't agree to it.
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>>215292132
It doesn't bother me, but I prefer when women get naked for real, it makes them feel more "professional", Cerina Vincent in "Not Another Teen Movie" for example
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>>215302693
They should use a whipping boy system like noble children used to.
Make sure the actress really gets to know and becomes friends with her double.
Then whenever the actress refuses and the double takes over, make it horrible and make the actress watch. After jumping into the cold lake naked for the 8th time, freezing for 10 minutes between takes, I want the double to look at Natalie with pleading eyes and the director can ask "Do you want to give it a try? I think you can get it in one? She will need many, many more takes"
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>>215301728
How exactly is "he" right? Crying about tits appearing in a TV show does not accomplish anything.
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>>215302559
Not that one, this >>215299979
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>>215302749
Willa Ford originally refused to do her nude scene in Friday The 13th(2009), but the director insisted that getting naked wasn't a big deal and in the end she did the scene and claims to be glad she got naked, in the same movie the actress they originally casted for the opening scene refused to get naked so they just fired her and hired another one
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>>215303272
Based
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>>215300182
true
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>>215294030
>won’t even get naked on set
Lmao so the rumors about her having some kind of fear of nudity are true.
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Why do actresses get so weird about nudity? Most male actors are totally cool with going nude for scenes.
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>>215302693
Guys don’t get it. To prepare for that scene women have to basically starve themselves for weeks. It’s not something a serious actress wants to do.
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>>215304245
are they?
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Seems like a waste of money.
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>>215292132
>body doubles, digital face replacement and CG nudity.
Examples?
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>>215292283
so grenades in movie making a fiery smokey explode instead of a concussive pop. Is that dishonest?.
stunt doubles in general are they dishonest?
Makeup and props and filming on a back lot set all dishonest?

All the classic movies you love the Director had to use tricks because a shot he wanted to make couldn't be done or was too dangers so they cut away before it or blow up a miniature set because they don't have the budget.

It's storytelling it doesn't have to be honest.

A actress like Lena Headey in her 40s who has renegotiated her contract and doesn't want to degrade herself on set. What would you do fire her and try and replace her? Of course not. You try and get the best over all actor/actress for the part and you work around it if the have too.
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>>215292132
>Gets topless in movies
>Doesn't get topless in GOT
shame
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>>215305372
Game of Thrones actually used all three, separately.
>Brienne
>Cersei
>Dany
At different times. Not every time the same.
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>>215292132
she got pregnant on purpose so she would not be forced by the two davids to do this for real, I really do wonder why we never hear more about those two
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>>215292673
>the booktards have arrived
Nobody cares about your pulp fantasy trash. Get some taste.
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>>215292132
nudity is for when the writing sucks
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>>215298268
Most main character nudity was in the early seasons, to hook the audience. Nudity in later seasons was usually confined to extras or minor characters.
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>>215307179
how many audio books do you own?
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>>215298744
Because you look like a blancmange when you're naked.
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>>215292132
I don´t like it. I also don´t like to watch something that later turned out to be AI. Same thing
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>>215307121
I highly doubt that, given she has been nude in a number of films going back to the 90s
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>>215304645
Amerifat detected.
Post BMI.
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>>215307210
this isn't remotely true
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>>215300587
But Vera IS hot. I don't get it. Why couldn't she have done it and why couldn't she have crawled over the bed, overtly displaying her PUSSY and ASSHOLE for ALL to see.
I remember reminding myself to jerk off to her getting raped in Bates Motel but never did
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>>215307284
a big difference with being nude on a closed set to what they wanted from her in this scene, but then you know that.
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>>215307854
You're attempting to suggest an actress PLANNED out a pregnancy to coincide with filming a TV show that takes six months to film.
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I only want fake nudity if its like Bimbo fetish art proportions
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>>215304645
Not my problem. If you can't do the job, don't accept it.
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>>215292132
why do these always look so fake anyway? I thought those shows had giant budgets
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>>215308560
> I thought those shows had giant budgets
Money laundering.
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>>215292132
Wasn't this because Headey is absolutely covered in tattoos?
They thought it would be easier just to paste on a whole body rather than edit each tattoo individually.
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>>215308642
Wouldn't they just put makeup over the tats? Actors and actresses do that all the time.
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>>215308560
They do. But it goes to dragons and explosions and armies, stuff you can make fairly convincingly on-screen. Humans are THE hardest thing to animate convincingly and matching heads to bodies is one of the most awkward effects to achieve.
>>215308639
Idiot
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>>215292532
>how would you even know?
In the past it was pretty obvious as the CGI or prosthetics was bad. Now it's quickly mentioned in the press tour etc if the actress is a never nude. Like Alba's shower scene in Machete.. Even when with CGI she didn't show anything they still mentioned it.
I've always found body doubles and now cgi naked time to be annoying. Being in almost every case the actress is already crazy hot looking. Yet if she doesn't want to be nude then just do skimpy. It still better than the weird edits and forced cuts to work in a body double.
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>>215292817
they aged up everyone in the show. ned, catelyn and robert are in their early 30s
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>>215292132
>actress gets paid 500,000 per episode
>sabotages the script, refusing to be on screen with her ex
>refuse to do nudes, costing CGI apartment millions
I genuinely despise Lena; Emilia was paid a fraction of that money in season 1 for nudity at a much younger age. Eva Green did nudes from a very young age.
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>>215308785
We don't fucking care.
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>>215292132
It bother
They shouldn't be able to use a body double, you either go nude by yourself or you don't, and all sex scene should be real
All actors are whore and should act as
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>>215308560
>body double
>face in center of frame
dumbass
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>>215308755
Another similar one where it's really obvious is from Wedding Crashers, Fisher's hand movements are way too fucking exaggerated compared to the cuts to the double just sitting there on top of Vaughn's chest
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>>215309778
God I wish that was me.
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One that was egregious for me because it was sold and hyped up by media as "empowering!" and "claiming back her nudity" or some shit, but Jennifer Lawrence in No Hard Feelings, who wasn't even nude but just has clothes digitally removed.
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>>215310311
And underwear is still half visible in various frames of the scene because they didn't even do a good job
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>>215310324
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>>215310311
>>215310324
wait so she's not even nude? Those are CG tits?
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>>215310487
looks like it
MAYBE pasties on her tits with CG nips, maybe digital tits entirely, but 100% has underwear on
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>>215310311
That's obviously her body, it's center of the frame
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>>215310038
not even a double, how do you not recognize Kiki's gait?
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>>215310324
You'd think they prioritize, considering Jennifer Lawrence naked was their movie's selling point. Wouldn't it have been cheaper and more believable to just hire a body double?
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>>215307869
she literally had several months before and some during filming to get pregnant, why would that be so hard a thing to do.
anon do you much know about females or pervy hw producers
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>>215310674
Given how physical the scene is that would have been difficult and jarring to cut between
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>>215292132
I think art belongs in movies. When an actor uses a body double, they're admitting to us that isn't about art itself, or that they have issues performing that art. Why do it instead of implying? Why do I have to see someone else's naked parts for the story to progress?
If there is no artistic value, I don't think there should be nudity at all. Be it actor or fake.
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>>215296178
This is a brilliant post and no one read it except for me.

Thank you, anon. Tell me some more observations.
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>>215310038
Moner won, Kiki lost
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>>215299400
Seems like it's her to me
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>>215292132
No more than fake violence or fake tits.
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>>215313063
fake boobs are common in porn, not in movies
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I think it's cowardly, personally. Same with actors who refuse to kiss. Are you an actor, or aren't you? Going nude is basic stuff.
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>>215292132
>CG nudity.
literally no such thing
whoever told you there was had no idea what he was talking about
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>>215292132
no as all movies are fake
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>>215313048
That's why it is called movie magic
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I watch hentai so for its no differance unless she's 30+. If the actress is older than 40 then I prefer real nudity
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>>215292397
In "Il Ragazzo Invisibile" they used CGI to make a teenage actor appear naked.
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>>215292132
I fucking HATE Merkins
I know exactly 2 times where I've seen labia minora in a show, Altered Carbon and Under The Skin
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>>215314236
>Altered Carbon
That clone fight scene was great
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>>215314236
was true directive digitalized?



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