Is it truly over for physical discs? Your future entertainment experience will be controlled by streaming companies that store all your data and can revoke access because of your views?
>>215301837Where are these numbers coming from? I'm buying more physical media now than in the past twenty years because of 4K.
>>215301864annual report for 2024 by the Digital Entertainment Group (DEG) and market research firm Omdiahttps://www.tomsguide.com/tvs/4k-blu-ray-sales-are-in-free-fall-you-might-want-to-buy-them-now-while-you-still-can
I still buy dvds sometimes
There's not even anything new worth pirating
>>215301837>horrible year for DVDs and Blu-raysso dvds are still around?
>>215301837>sales go down cause they keep fucking up the movies and creating shit versions>dude you better rush out and buy the absolutely garbage no one else wants right now before it magically disappears!!
How much do Blu ray dvds cost? I think people just don't have the money to spend on them vs. settling for whatever is on streaming
>>215301837I'm not streaming hahaha I'm just not
>>215302434Full price $30 for 4k for something you'll probably watch once
Yeah 4K is totally dying because of streaming and not because you can't actually play the damn disc without a 200 dollar player or a 500 dollar PS5. Or you can get an intel pc with windows and pray that your disc drive is one of the models works. My WH16NS40 won't work because it's the wrong drive platform or some bullshit. If there was a device like the ps2 and ps3 slim for 4K I'm sure it'd be way more popular but consoles are dying and the ps5 looks ridiculous.
>>215301837I only buy 4k steelbooks. And most steelbooks have shitty covers. Also they are like $30 to $50 a piece. They are STILL making DVDs for some reason. Sinners came out on DVD in the year of our lord 2025. The pricing should be like $5 for DVD, $10 for Blu Ray, and $15 for 4K all new. They are charging way too much especially since disks are cheap as fuck to manufacture.
>>215301837I only buy classics and make sure they a legit transfer and restoration. A a lot of them don’t and looks like a just scanned it off a VHS copy
>>215301886This is DVD, standard Blu Rays and 4K combined, so that title is misleading. Of course sales of physical media overall are down. A lot of retailers don't even carry physical media anymore. But I'd guess to say that 4K itself is doing fine. A much more niche market, but the distributors are often smaller and charge a premium. If you think sales for boutiques like Arrow or VS or Indicator are in free fall, I have a bridge to sell you.
>>215301837Then how come blu rays for a lot of older movies are still expensive as fuck?
>>215302836Restorations cost more than digital.
I still buy physical media often but almost all from library sales, thrift stores, etc. It's a fun thing to do if you have the room for it and actually buy and watch what you like. Boutique labels and DVD sales at Wal-Mart is probably the only things keeping discs alive.
>>215301837is this world wide or just the burgerland?its not really surprising theyve been taking the piss with the price of players for a while, thats before you even buy a disc, new releases are outrageously priced on top of staggered releases i.e steelbox first then the black one it takes 6 months to a year to approach a reasonable price and thats just 4ksive been seeing new release blu-rays going for 25-30 euro its completely absurdwe're 10 years passed the point where dvds shouldve been phased out on top of it all but thats another thread
>>215301864>I'm buying more physical media now than in the past twenty years because of 4K.same, but I'm actually buying standard blu-rays because you can find a lot of stuff for dirt cheap.for the price of a single 4k disk I could buy 3-4-5 brand new blu-rays.
>>215303022>outrageously pricedThe prices seem about what you would expect. We used to pay $20 for VHS tapes back in the day. That was 30 years ago.>>215303053You could get even more VHS tapes for your money if you don't care about quality. I wouldn't waste my money on standard blu's, outside of titles I couldn't get elsewhere, or which have no serious chance of getting a 4K release.
>>215303161>care about quality>buying 4k releaseslolthey are notoriously shit
>>215303222Only a number of popular titles put out by large studios.
>>215303222not really
>>215302434here it's 16-20 euros for a newly released blu-ray, and just 2-3 euros less for the dvd.But if you wait just a few years and you can find most blu-rays on sale for 5-10 eurosI don't get why so many people still buy DVDs when BD players are cheap and the price for the disks is similar.conversely, 4k is not worth the price.
>>215303346>conversely, 4k is not worth the price.Only reason I buy any physical media.
blu ray players are expensiveas long as rarbg exists. it's much better bitrate and quality than "4k" streaming services
>>215303161>>215303161>The prices seem about what you would expect. no theyre not>We used to pay $20 for VHS tapes back in the day. okay?>That was 30 years ago.you remember what you were spending money on 30 years ago and on what?, thats some memory lad, i dont
I'd buy more 4k if they weren't 30 dollars a piece
>>215303161comparing a shitty format like VHS to a crystal clear bluray is incredibly retarded.I own a 4k tv, but the improvement over 1080p is subtle and really not that noticeable from a normal viewing distance. yeah, you can see more details if you stand close to the screen, but nobody watches films like that.Bluray's quality is good enough for 99,9% of people (everyone except for a few autistic nerds akin to audiophiles) and it's basically the definitive home video format.
>>215303161>We used to pay $20 for VHS tapes back in the dayWut? Maybe in the fucking 80s or something, in the 90s a VHS tape at most was like 10 dollars, and that was for the newest movies that had just came out and were popular. I know cause i still got all my VHS tapes with the pricetags still on em.
>>215301837The bigger problem with streaming will be advertising and alternate versions of movies (like Blade Runner and Heat before the shitty new color grades) not being available.
>>215303723>comparing a shitty format like VHSAt leash VHS is closer to the original look of most older films, color grading gets fucking wrecked whenever its gone on bluray
Theoretically you watched black magic the shirow ovaIf not is right there
>>215301837>Blu-Ray still costs £20 a pop in the HMV>sells for about £2what is going on
>>215302555>all previous models of the playstation, grey or black blocks>be PS5>glaring white and black spaceship that's supposed to sit in your living room, that can't sit flat and looks like a bad joke.
has streaming killed off commentary?I also wonder when streaming will starting offering different versions of the same film i.e. Bladerunner. The theatrical version seems to be the main one offered in UK
>>215302555they expect GTA6 to sell billions but they haven't figured out that the PS5 looks retarded yet
>>215301837>>215302775>>215301864Of course it's clickbait FUD misrepresenting the report and outright lying in the title. Though I feel even the report itself is biased for not more clearly breaking out data for all the formats.>https://www.degonline.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/f1_Year-end-2024-Digital-Media-Entertainment-report-cover-note-with-grid.pdf
>>215304123the Breaking Bad Blu-Rays look very natural and grainy.
>>215304123The 4k sdr looks like the brightness is too high. You can't see the clouds and the grid lines on the pavement have disappeared and the 4k hdr loojks like the contrast is off and the blue level is too high. How much of that is a calibration issue?
>>215302555i sold my ps5 when moving i never used it and i agree it looked retarded. also massive and barely felt different from a ps4
Paying extra for a 4k disc is straight bullshit
>>215304658Just buy a DVD
>>215301837if your movie came out after 1999 I don't want to see it. simple as that.
I think 4K is too far, real-life feels slightly out-of-focus to me, lots of things are moving and it feels like a soft blur, I think blu-rays look a lot better in many cases, a lot of this is just my gut feeling. Maybe it's just 4K only looking good on a huge TV or something. DVDs feel cozy for some reason, like how VHS felt cozy.
>>215304665>just watch 480p bro
>>215304322lmao if you think streamslop companies are gonna do anything to actually improve their product
>>215304722Blu-ray is the best way to watch movies from the 20th century.
>>215301837desu I think it's over for the entertainment industry as a whole. Piracy is the only thing experiencing growth.
>>215301837im not getting rid of mine just yet, i made that mistake with all my old horror VHS like 20 years ago and now all them shit go for hundreds on eBay, same will probably happen with DVDs once they stop making them and then they'll go for huge prices on eBay once their an artifact from the past and autists on eBay will now pay top dollar for them
>>215304902480iDVDs are all interlaced, the deinterlacing is on the player.
>>215301864Woah youre right, the whole market is based off one guy and what that one guy buys is the total numbers FUCK if youre buying MORE that means theyre lying, the market is just you remember, all of it.
Are 4k discs are still doing the bluray with it so its min 20 buckerinos instead of a single disc movie for like 10/12buckerbillybeanos?
They arent going anywhere. Plus they are cheap to make.Plenty still buy them
my 6-year old car doesn't even have a CD playershame as I have a bunch of discs with all sorts of wacky shit I'd like to rediscover incl obscure lost media-type videos, music I made myself, games I made on game maker, hilarious retarded /x/-themed 'art' from now defunct youtube channels .. etc I was honestly a dab hand at the music part. majorly into BOC-type stuff att but its mostly data discs so even a CD player would be useless
>>215304780Solution: slower direction.
4Ks look like a Baroque painting quite often, but the direction doesn't always seem to compliment it. Lots of quickly-cut 4K images can be dizzying. I can't picture Jackson's direction of LOTR being particularly enjoyable in 4K.
>>215305732What the fuck are you babbling about?
>>215301864>spending money on moviesLMAOTHIS NIGGA SPENDS 40$ TO BUY THE LATEST SLOP L M A O
yes the public has spoken and they dont want to actually own anything they want to rent in perpetuity via digital streaming. soon we wont even be able to pirate with web 3.0 manifest shit and digital IDs
>>215301837>muh physical discs>implying your entertainment experience is not controlled by decryption software, firmware and player manufacturer that can revoke access at any timeif you haven't taken the pirate pill yet it's already over for you
I hope laserdiscs make a comeback like vinyl records did.
>>215301837DVD was the last actual physical media. Blu-ray is a meme. The truth is physical media makes no sense when we have broadband.
Physical anime sales dont seem to be affected. They are going up in price lately I noticed, I dont think its to cover lost sales, its just greed.
>>215306496the modern goy cattle don't know that a 5TB external HDD is around 120 dollars/euros and can hold around 200 movies at 4K resolution (depending on the codec). Those same 200 movies would cost 6000 dollars lol. $6000 compounded for 20 years at 10% is around 40k. I can't imagine spending money on entertainment, ever. Money is power and time. You'd have to be retarded to willingly give it away that easily. >pirate everything>every time you pirate, check the price of the the thing you're pirating>invest that amount>???>profit
>>215301924thismost people that still buy these do it on the streetsmost people that buy the real deal already own the good stuffthe coin is getting scarcer. the time is limited. you always have to be available. exclusive series are digestible garbage for when you get some time off.getting hardware that reads discs in general is getting more overpriced and hard to find because (they) don't want you to own stuff and sold a streaming dream to retards . Which was taken away in a heartbeat.everyone should start buying Brazilian diy disc readers and burned power rangers seasons en masse and boycott streaming to bring back private property and privacythen learn to make them themselves and upload it on tik tok or whatever is the new twitter so the message arrives
>>215307081Piracy is surging atm and steaming services are freaking out about it. It was down to almost nothing during the scamdemic, now it's back to like 2012 levels and rising every year.
>>215301864It's a collector's market now. Normies do not buy movies. Just kino nerds do.
I feel like people don't understand the difference between 4K & regular blu-ray.>Better audio>New remaster of the previous film>Higher quality video
>>215301837>horrible sales>in freefall>better buy nowbut why? if they're in freefall, doesn't that mean I should wait until they're even cheaper?
>>215307081You dont notice how bad some rips are until you watch the bluray and if you want a 1:1 copy 4k rips are 50gb+ and even 1080p 1:1 rips are 20gb+ and that's without the special features, commentary, etc.
I do not understand for the life of me why they haven't released 4K versions of all of Audrey Hepburn movies. She has like 10. How is Breakfast at Tiffany's not 4K? Insane to me.
>make nothing worth buying>use that as an excuse to kill the medium
>>215308415The 4K editions of It's a Wonderful Life & Roman Holiday are kino
>>215301837There's not even anything new worth pirating
>>215307852Streaming services are the REASON piracy is surging. They got greedy by charging more for a worse experience. They choke bitrate to point where nighttime scenes are a pixelated mess. They put trans storylines in shows aimed at young children. No wonder piracy is surging.
>>215308647I honestly wonder if any of those services are even turning a profit.
>>215308046I actually think it's at a point where higher quality is worse. You just see the effects stand out moreI actually go out of my way to download 1080p despite having nice 4k monitors and televisions because it feels betterWith a few exceptions (nature documentaries, SOME genuinely great looking movies) the quality is rarely worth the cost in my opinion..
>>215309246Only Netflix is in the green.And it took 10 years of mass producing slop to get there. Every other service is a money hole. They have to bundle subscriptions with other services to inflate their numbers for shareholders.
>>215308647>>215309949Gotta laugh at these studios. They had very stable, lucrative business models that had been working for decades, and torpedoed them to chase streaming profits that will likely never even materialize.
DVDs sold because they were $10-15 each and could be played on anything. Nobody wants to spend $30 on something that can only be played on a couple of expensive devices.
>>215301837I haven't watched a movie on DVD in years. Most of what I watch is on sketchy less than legal streaming sites
>>215301924I have over 200 films and many shows downloaded and put on physical media as back up. Humanity has spent well over 100 years making movies and shows. More than enough to consume in a lifetime. There is no need to consume or even pay attention to modern slop.
>Retailers and movie studios stop fucking selling discs >"WOOOOOAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH WHAT THE FUCK SALES ARE DOWN HOW COULD THIS BE HAPPENING?!?!?!?!?"
blockbuster going out of business was very good for my collection. >disc rotI'll deal with it if it comes
The people who grew up with them like me will be dead soon so whatever. The fuckers that want them after they're gone should have bought them while they had the chance.It is kind of retarded though. You really don't need physical discs anymore and I'm pretty old (43). Remuxes and full movie downloads are easily accessible online and that's the only fucking purpose the discs had in the first place.
>>215303530This. The whole 4K rollout has been super fucking slow and partially at fault is these niggers wanting $40-50 per new 4k release. It also sucks that a lot of them seem to steel book slop (who actually buys these??) that a 4k release will go out of print and is replaced by the more expensive steelbook. I think a great price for a 4k is $15. Especially if it comes with a digital code and Blu-ray.
>>215304508Dunno but I fucking hate HDR for forcing releases to have that shitty post processing. The big push for 4k should be the new 4k scans and the fact that the capacity of a 4k disc allows for higher bitrate meaning way more fucking detail and clarity in films, along with color. But the push is instead on faggot stuff like HDR (artificial post processing) and Dolby Atmos sound (more bullshit to get you to buy more speakers paying that Dolby license when the majority of the greatest films being out on 4k had a fucking mono or stereo soundtrack).
>>215305732>>2153047804k is just the pixel resolution. I think you guys are watching that on 4k TVs with that shitty smooth motion garbage. Turn that shit off you retards.
>>215308099Everything has been rolling out super slow. Like 3 or 4 years ago the only 4k movies were like MCU slop or shit shit digitally at 1080p upscaled to 4k through software. We are NOW just getting into actual kinos getting 4k releases.
I own a lot of 4k discs but it's kind of a meme. I have a 7.1 set up in a dedicated theater room. We were watching the lost boys in 4k since it's Halloween time. About halfway through the player couldn't read the disc any more. Was frustrating and I eventually took out the 4k disc and put in the Blu Ray. It more or less looked and sounded the same. Yeah, 4k was a little sharper but it wasn't a big deal in difference
>>215301837Physical media means you can keep them and not worry about a streaming service taking the show away.
>>215301837>when you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commissionso it is in their vested interest to create a perception of uncertainty and scarcity
im honestly shocked that they ever sold well or were worth producing>>215311758doesnt that just mean your player is ass bro
>>215304780>DVDs feel cozy for some reason, like how VHS felt cozy.Because DVD, like VHS, was designed to be viewed on CRTs. DVDs are mid-90s tech.
>>215303161The problem with techfags is there's never a "good enough". Nobody cares about 4k, most people have bad eyes anyway.
>>215302555>you can't actually play the damn disc without a 200 dollar playerMy blu-ray player was like $40 from Walmart. What's killing physical media is that the companies who want to farm subscription money while selling user data are the same companies that sell or license physical media, and eliminating physical media will drive their much more lucrative subscription/data revenue.
>>215301837And yet every single steelbook release sells out in minutes these days at higher and higher prices. Premiums can vanish in under 30 seconds; thousands of copies gone in under a minute, easily.There is an edition of the new Fantastic Four movie that is 75 dollar on Amazon, it's a nice-enough looking steelbook with some magnets or something. It even got a restock: completely sold out.So I do not believe this. At the very least, it's functionally useless information if you're actually into this scene at all.
>>215312689>My blu-ray playerYeah, doesn't matter here, pal. 4K players are going to run you at least $200, the one everybody online likes (as it upscales blu rays) is $450.
My latest purchase
