>30 years later>Still unrefuted
>>215339185Glad Ralph got rid of that mustache and beard
>>215339185Why would he trust the agents? Why would they go through the trouble of wiping his memory and setting him up with a nice life when they could just kill him after he’s given them the info?
>>215339210He was desperate
knowing the truthor dive in to ignorance
>>215339185If someone could plug me back into 1995 I’d be awfully grateful kthxbai
>>215339210The machines aren’t driven by emotion so they’d no reason not to honor the deal.Secondly, the alternative was living on the run from deadly bots, eating gruel and dryhumping in the niggacave.
>>215339289>The machines aren’t driven by emotion so they’d no reason not to honor the deal.That’s precisely the reason why they wouldn’t honor the deal. The machines are programmed to do everything in the most efficient way possible. Liquidating him would be the most efficient solution.
>>215339313Don't they need humans to generate electricity?
>>215339185i wish i was ignorant, of most of the things i know.
>>215339185vegans love this guy, can vegans be wrong?
>>215339210because it's another free battery? Plus they could use him as an example of collaborators getting what they want down the line for all future iterations
Steak is shit. There, i said it
>>215339406>Plus they could use him as an example of collaborators getting what they wantNot likely. If they drew attention to him and what he had done, they'd have made him a target for reprisal. I assume he wouldn't even look like he did in real life once they put him back in the matrix. He'd get a new name, face, everything.
>>215339185How did he even arrange that meeting without someone looking at the Matrix screen eavesdropping? Oh I see you had a nice long talk with some agent Cypher, what did you talk about and why are you still alive?
>>215339691it depends on the shape of your mouth, the thing they don't tell you is that steak is purely a chew-texture play and it needs to be perfect to hit all notes. Would you be more tempted by seafood in the traitor scenario?
>>215339331>lose 1 human battery out of billionsor>have to send bots to capture Cypher in the real world (which may get destroyed by other humans), wipe his memory, plug him back in, and create a custom life for him. I know which one I’m choosing.
>>215339884He just kills everyone on the ship and tells them exactly where it is. Canonically the machines no trouble altering memories. Everything they can give him in the matrix is just code so it costs them nothing. He's worth more as a battery than dead. Plus when they're wiping his memories they can save a copy for themselves because he probably has information they don't about the humans. They have no reason not to honor the deal.
>>215339185>EAT THE SLOP>WEAR THE RAGS>RAVE WITH THE POC>LIVE IN A POD>AND YOU WILL BE "HAPPY AND FREE"FUCK YOU MORPHEUS YOU PLUG ME BACK IN!!!
>>215339185You stupid niggerfaggots always seem to miss the part of the equation that says the matrix is literally designed to make you suffer.
>>215339949>They have no reason not to honor the deal.By your logic, they have no reason to kill him, NOT to honor the deal. They have absolutely nothing to gain from giving him his perfect life he requested. You sound like you’d trust the word of an AI bot lol
>>215339185The Matrix is about the path to enlightenment. Cypher chooses to remain in Samsara because of his illusions and attachments, while Neo chooses to continue his pursuit of Nirvana despite the path being more arduous. Like most people, Cypher goes for the quick fix.If you sympathize more with Cypher, you're missing the larger picture.
>>215339958there needs to be a matrix reboot where cypher and neo link up to carve out their own private Hyperion inside the matrix.
>>215340060The Matrix is a trans allegory. This has been confirmed by the Wachowski sisters.
>>215340060>freedom>from samsarasomeone hasn't chopped enough wood. maybe try carrying water.
>>215340096old bait, xister
>>215340096What's the allegory then? Specifically? Explain it to us.
>>215340119NTA he's probably fucking with you to make a point about your own understanding
>>215340003They have reasons to honor the deal. i.e. Battery. Positive role model for future double-agents.Furthermore, the machines are repeatedly shown to honor deals throughout the canon. Not only is that essentially the final major plot point, but they consistently prove willing to adhere to truces and ceasefires for the purposes of deliberation. If anything, they are made to appear less capable of backstabbing than human beings. As if doing the opposite of what they said they would do is at odds with their machine logic.
>>215340141Is this not spelled out by the final confrontation in Digimon Adventure Tri?
>>215340060larger picture is giant nigger faggot orgy in some god forsaken cave. This "prison" is my home and btw we had great living before brownoids and kikeoids with their dysgenic practices and scamming came about. Just because indians born in to shit life doesn't mean that everybody else does too, idgaf about any samsara or whatever, you can shove it up your dirty brown ass.
>>215340166You cannot carry water if you refuse to lift the pale
>>215340119>spoon feed meNo. Do your own research. The creators said it’s a trans allegory, so it’s a trans allegory.
>>215340141lol the amount of mental gymnastics you’re doing is impressive. You strike me as one of those people that will never admit they’re wrong, so really no point in arguing further. Have a nice day, faggot.
>>215340204If I claim Hitler is trans, and am telling a bold faced lie.. yet have a PHD in anthropology, and my name is Hans Frank am I right or wrong?
>>215340204the matrix is just a rip off of the invisibles and the wachowskis are retarded
>>215340101Huh?>>215340166Did you watch the rest of the trilogy? Neo isn't content to just party it up.
>>215340246He is 100% correct topkek. There's nothing to misinterpret. The final confrontation with the robots in Revelutions painfully and acutely makes this obvious for you.
>>215339185or just use the training programs they make to have all the sex and pleasure you need.
>>215340272Yes... Yes... It seems you must not only chop more wood, but carry more water.
>>215340273>hePretending to be someone else lmao
>>215339761>chew-texture playso you never had a steak before, got it.
>>215340294You ok, bro?
>>215340323You want freedom from Samsara, my friend? Chop wood. Carry water.
>NEEEEOOOOOO!
>>215340302Why would I pretend over something so impersonal and low stakes? I made the Digimon Adventure joke
>>215340250Well considering Hitler was a real person, and The Matrix is a fictional movie, I fail to see the connection. I know in your head that sounded better.
>>215340335I'd rather shitpost... but in a mindful kinda way.
>>215340350>Why would I pretend over something so impersonal and low stakes?That’s why it’s so pathetic.
>>215340354Just because some faggot retard retroactively claims something doesn't make it actually true, was the point. But keep being a stupid tranny faggot retard forever if you wish.
>>215340246>You strike me as one of those people that will never admit they’re wrong, so really no point in arguing furtherProjection from someone who provided zero rebuttal to several demonstrably valid points based on the established canon of the series.
>>215340372You weird, unc...
>>215340385>Just because some faggot retard retroactively claims something doesn't make it actually trueWhen the person who claimed it is the creator of the media in question, yes it does lol
>>215340392Why do you type like that?
>>215340426No, it fucking doesn't when they're doped up on drugs that affect their neurochemistry and making that claim 20 years after the release of the first movie. None of the first four (Animatrix included) have even remotely a hint towards tranny symbolism. If you knew even the most remote of information about alchemy, you would already understand what things like depolarization are. But you don't, so you fall for it when trannies make retroactive vies for attention by contorting the basic idea to fit a narrow and contemporary political narrative.
>>215340492He's obviously trolling you, autist.
>>215340521No shit, but someone impressionable is bound to take that as fact regardless.
>>215340492The Wachowski sisters are the creators of the media. They can do whatever they want with their product. If they claim it was their intention to make the movie a trans allegory, then that was their intention. Perhaps you should make your own media and you can do whatever you want to it.
>>215340550That only holds up so far as no one applies basic logical scrutiny to the argument, which I've already done. Now that you're just repeating your inititial position: I accept your concession.
>>215340447Because I never learned to touch type, so it's index fingers only I'm afraid. I know, it's shameful. No but seriously, I have no idea what the fuck you're talking about.
>>215340600No, but seriously, your psychiatrist lied to you. There's not actually such a thing as gender dysphoria.
>>215340585I’ve only repeated it because you seem too dense to understand it. Unfortunately we don’t have the ability to read minds, so the only source we have is what the Wachowskis claim. Since you have no evidence that their intentions were not as they claim, then we are only left to believe them. Case closed.
>>215340550Kek imagine taking trannies at their word.
>>215339185My take >>215340604
>>215340613The only transition that happened here is when you pretended to be a troll all along once you didn't have a leg left to stand on, anon. Take care.
>>215340619Do you really want to be further humiliated? Mental depolarization is an alchemical technique, practicing the fusion of the male and female mental archetypes. It goes all the way back to Anum and Namu. If you want more recent: Chrysopeia, Yin Yang, the Gnostic MotherFather... If you want another example, more recognizable for trannies: look no further than picrel.
>>215340685>schizo babble
>>215340716Basic historical knowledge corroborated by the research of millions of people is schizobabble, but not the words of one singular LA loontroon?
>>215340723>Basic historical knowledgeAh yes the basic historical knowledge of medieval alchemy being somehow related to modern day trans people? I was willing to have a back and forth when I thought you were just a bigot, but now that you’ve outed yourself as a schizo, I have no interest in continuing. I may as well go argue with the local homeless guy. Take care.
>>215340685Nta but why are you focusing on alchemy?
>>215340767Anon is definitely correct, tranny
>>215340767Every single thing he mentioned has a dedicated Jewpedia thread and you still won't even bother reading
>>215340767topkek based retard
>>215340774Do you know what movie these people are discussing, anon?
>>215340716kek
>>215339761Yes i like prawn or scallops with a good sauce, fish is overrated. I had steak at my brothers wedding and it was super chewy not good, beef burgers it's easily digested i dunno why it had to be so different
>>215340979https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Steiner's_Mystery_Dramas
>>215340909Explain how Alchemy is intrinsic to The Matrix, anon.Sounds to me like you're suffering from a similar kind of confirmation bias that the Wachowskis are dealing with.
>>215341004i'm not the original guy, but I posted that wiki link corroborating what he said without it directly mentioning any of the terms he mentioned. all you have to do is some light reading of a few paragraphs
>>215341002No thanks, I’m not interested in early 20th century Austrian plays lol
>>215341055Okay? Rudolf Steiner invented the third most influential schooling system since Plato and the Rockefellers
>>215340336WAKEY WAKEY NEOOOOO ITS CUM GARGLING TIME
>>215341061Good to know
>>215341055>be given silver platter that shows the wachowskis are hacks ripping off ancient myth>hmmm no :Pwhat more does this faggot want? is the entire cast being forced to read simulacra and simulacrum and the entire franchise being ripped off from some old shit not enough?
>>215341024What, this >>215341002?Pretty much confirms my suspicion that your fixation on Alchemy leads you to analyze the film in those terms.It's fine, though. I'm not suggesting there aren't parallels. But Alchemy is definitely not more relevant to the film than the broader mystical/theological/philosophical themes.
>>215341095PAGING CAPTAIN RETARD
>>215341094>>hmmm no :P
>>215341123You sincerely lack basic reading competence
>>215341108Do you even know what you're trying to say at this point?
>>215341141You lack manners.
>>215339185Literally refuted in the film by Trinity.>"It's not real."
>>215340800>>215340813>>215340845Tranny is not wrong to call it schizo babble.However, it should be noted that Wachowskis sissies got it all fucked up. If Matrix is an allegory, then Cypher is a tranny. He chose to live fantasy world and be permanently hooked up to blockers and hormons, because muh twink death and balding.
>>215341181I don't know what more you want from any of these people, anon. They give you all the answers you ask for, and then you shamelessly act like a faggot and dismiss it. All you're essentially doing is proving trannies have a sever incapacity to accept reality, even when presented to them inoffensively.
>>215339210Because the robots ultimately still loved humanity the just couldn't let the dumb fags run free and ruin everything more
>>215340246>lol the amount of mental gymnastics you’re doing is impressive.Nta but this is massive projection. Everyone has pointed out why an unemotional machine would find honouring the deal to be mutually beneficial and you're seething and coming up with copes because it upsets your ego to realise you were wrong.
>>215341222>everyone I reply to is the same personI have no idea what you’re talking about.
>>215341277Sure, just like you had no idea what anyone else was talking about. It is a shame that time gives way to truth and understanding, and not to precarious doublespeak. Otherwise, maybe people would believe you, and you wouldn't have to spend an hour repeating yourself ad nauseum in hopes of even a schmeckle of validations. With regards from Norway.
>>215341296I don’t know how much simpler I can say it. I’m. Not. Who. You. Think. I. Am.
>>215341311Yes, and I am Saint Nichlaus. It is easy to lie, but much more difficult to weave lies consistently and so well that nobody can scrupulously engage and crack. You are a sad individual. I hope you read back on what these people have said to you and reconsider, at some point.
>>215341331Alright, think what you want. You really can’t fix stupid…
>>215341348I am being wholly sincere with you. You seem like an extremely bothered human being, who needs guidance. Some kind of father figure would likely do you good, if you need advice... Does not have to be a living person, or even real. Just something to look forward to embodying. You cant not live a happy life for long without considering what others have to say. That will only lead to either suicide or further and self-perpetuating misery
>>215341296Nta but you've been saying a helluva lot of nothing throughout this thread.Btw you still haven't explained what Alchemy has to do with The Matrix.
>>215341391>cant notcan not*
>>215339185There's literally no downside to the matrix. The machines weren't torturing people or oppressing them. They were literally just letting them live as comfortably as humans ever did. If the machines were making people work in mines or some shit I'd understand rebelling but why do it when they're living just fine?
>>215341399This is equally sad. I'm not even that person you argued with. I was simply pointing you towards a good mindset to take. You can just consider the advice silently. There is little need to gestate and deflect as such
>>215341419Lol what in God's name are you on about?
>>215341442I don't know why it is difficult for you to read the few simple sentences I have posted in response to you. Is it so crucial to have the last word, and to feel validation? Is betterment not a personal achievement as well? All you could have done was read my posts, and said nothing, but simply have attempted to understand. I will not repeat myself. I will simply say goodbye. You are not worth good time
>>215341461I'm sorry on his behalf, anon...
>>215341461You're leaving because you realize you have nothing of substance to say. You've done nothing but posture like an argumentative dweeb.
>>215341391And I’m being wholly sincere with you, I’m not whoever you were talking to earlier. I can’t make myself more clear lmao. If you were in my perspective and you saw how obtuse you’re being right now, you’d cringe.
>>215341494ur an ill-contempt faggot loser for acting like that to a complete stranger who was giving you advice
>>215341501nobody is ever going to believe this kind of a post. one quite literally could not put all the attempts of this trick on 4chan history onto a 500TB SSD. samefagging is too ancient to fool anyone kek
>>215341494Bro, he’s so deranged he doesn’t understand that everyone he responds to isn’t the same person. He thinks I’m someone he was talking to earlier and he will not accept otherwise lol
>>215341533hey fagmason maybe change your syntax before samefagging like a faggot who takes it up the ass
>>215341514Me: what does alchemy have to do with the Matrix? Retard: read this wiki page that's not even superficially related to the Alchemy that was being discussed. Fantastic advice
>>215341545I’ll pray for you anon.
>>215341563that isn't what that kind norwegian was saying to you at all, you delusional fucking dipshit faggot retard.
>>215341545Lol he's not me, you mental patient
>>215341575meds, honey. take em. don't forget to dial 8 on the plastic johnson for me.
>>215341576Lmao you’re so mad
>>215341589this has also never worked, you dipshit fucking faggot giga loser retard. the average indian poojeet nine year old knows HTML edit
>>215341576Ok, then go ahead and elucidate the matter for meThis is the most schizophrenic thread I've seen in quite a while.
>>215341589He’s so deranged. I love it!
>>215341598you're not? stop posting if you don't care. stop posting. don't post one more time ITT. prove to me how little you give a shit, oh baste unfeeler
>>215341611>b b but it's an edit Every time
>>215341620no it isnt. there's nothing remotely schizo about what i said to you, because all you have to do is read a few fucking sentences that someone said to you.
>>215341622lol you’d like that wouldn’t you? This is too fun. You think I’m 3 - 4 different people at once and you’re losing it. HAHAHA
Now that the tranny is busy replying to himself, I think Cypher was in the right. He represents the Apollonian spirit in all of us.
>>215341647Anon, nobody but you is making all these weird tranny posts and seething about alchemy
>>215341647ewww... this aint it chief
>>215341637It's actually quite symptomatic of schizophrenia tbqh.>I wanted to know how Alchemy, specifically, was related to The Matrix because an anon was intent on analyzing the film in those terms>you post a link to something that contains no information about Alchemy, yet you claim it explains everything the anon was saying (just not in Alchemical terms)>the wiki page doesn't contain info that's even analogous to Alchemy You're making connections where they don't exist. Classic schizo shit.
>>215341667Sorry to burst your bubble sweaty, but there’s minimum 3 of us watching you lose it, possibly 4.
>>215340246>You strike me as one of those people that will never admit they’re wrongholy fucking projecting
>mildly interesting meme OP>thread devolves into loony troons episode number 8 bajillion and onehope she/they/him doesn't kill himself tonight
>>215339210smith was there alone with cypher, he meeting him clandestinely trying to find a way to escape the matrix/source choice that is forced on him (live in the matrix or "die" and return to the source). the machines don't need access codes to zion's mainframe, they know where it is and have the tech to easily get inside, as we see in movie 3. smith accessing the mainframe would allow him control over humanity's future, which would mean control over the machine's future
>>215341702anon, you might be the one projecting. do you sincerely think this random guy is the same person as the four or five others who had unique things to say and different lexical verbeage? All of your posts are literally the same thing over and over again>deny >call anon some other person>deny>reiterate claim
>>215340546i do agree, but there was an androgynous character named "switch" in the first one, so maybe there was a smidge of it. but back in 1999 society was at least normal enough that that shit wasnt noticed
>>215339236She cute.Name?
see, this is why we need white male nazi power mods, to machine ID ban this one brown subhuman (((trolling)))and add doxxing and ddos to the listactually, I'd have a drone fire a missle at your nigger mutthut and make it explodeyou deserve death
>>215341798
>>215341798I’m fine with that if and only if whoever makes the claim of others samefagging get banned if they’re wrong
>>215341760Ok, instead of being a bratty little child about it, maybe try to clear things up instead of flinging verbal poo at me.Are you the Alchemy guy?Are you the person who posted the wiki link?Or are you just some nebshitty dweeb who entered the thread and felt like bickering about nothing?
>>215341821Posting a screenshot has never ever disproved samefagging. Sorry looney trunes. You definitely lost there
>>215341837Ironically, I’m not the one who posted that screenshot
>>215341834I just hate uppity pedantic faggots who espouse endless bullshit without bothering to read one note of criticism like a pitch black fucking nigger from deep in the south sahara
>>215341861That will literally never fool anyone. No matter how much you want to believe it will.
>>215339210Giving Cipher what he wants costs them no significant resources but they need Morpheus for location of Zion
>>215341863I just hate flimflam askrim skram askippity doo wop because a flopalop skiddily deeThis is what you sound like
>>215341881Ok schizo
>>215341912>>215341914You seem upset... Are you ok?
>>215341938Well, there’s your proof right there, you retarded schizo.
>>215341958Um honey, I have no idea what the fuck you're even talking about...
>>215341969>08:15:40>08:15:45
>>215341985Umm meds? These are just random numbers, schizo...
>>215341938I'm perfectly fine, thanks.You still haven't answered my questions about which person you are. Are you the Alchemy autist or the dude who posted the wiki link? If you're neither, why do you feel the need to defend them so stridently?
>>215342001I have absolutely no idea what any of that is.. Are you having some kind of episode? Do you need help? I know a good mental health resource..
>>215341989>proven to be a schizo>N…No you!It seems my work here is done. Have a great day.
>>215342013I don't see anything being proven, sweety.. Ummm, maybe post something that makes sense and not schizo stuff and I'll consider it?? Idk tho... to be quite desu you seem unstable
>>215342013Holy fuck GOODBYEEEE FAAAAAG
>>215342009You keep going back and forth between caps and no-caps. Why?
>>215342076I don't know who you mean? Maybe try again with someone else? This is giving cringe schizo vibes...
>>215342032Why are you so triggered? Are you sweating right now?
>>215342089You're right, it's not like I can see your IP or anything ;)
>>215342104>>215342123You kind of seem a little grumpy.. You should sign up for BetterHelp, honey
>>215342141I’m imagining you sweating, spamming refresh, frantically typing. It’s a funny thought.
>>215342180You should probably see a doctor if you're having hallucinations like a schizo?? Ummm??
>>215342141Why are you doing this? Is this some 5d chess shit that's somehow related to The Matrix and you'll eventually reveal the metaphor, or are you just clinically insane?
>>215339236I think the high rate of trans suicides is because they all pretend to be a 16 yr old girl, I mean probably none of them pretend to be a 40yr old woman. So when they hit 40, or maybe even 30 when it's literally impossible for them to be a schoolgirl, they just rope.
>>215342205That's right schizo. My life revolves around you!
>>215339236i don't know why but the "your trans?" grammar mistake makes this a lot hotter
>>215339691TRVKE
>>215342219Right now it certainly does
>>215342219>My life revolves around you!Right now it does, in the most literal sense.
>>215342234About as hot as a subterranean negroid who can't read a sentence, sure
>>215342242>>215342244Umm bot crossfire, or just schizo forgetting was he said on his laptop before hitting post on two devices? This unc has lost it...
>>215341411I don't think so, if this was the Matrix and I lived in it, why would they make me live next to a guy and his girlfriend who decides to scream randomly throughout the day. I would rather eat the gruel and live inside of a cramped ship.
>>215342234Because it makes you feel superior. Nothing brain-busting about it.
>>215342263I control you. Now reply.
>>215342244Lol I like you.>>215342263Continue responding, slave.
>scroll thread expecting matrix shit>thread ruined again because people in 2025 still believe that anons are going to spend their free time photoshopping time stamps
I came into this thread expecting to find that guy who's always bitching about the fork being in the wrong hand and instead I find a bunch of queers arguing about astrology.
>>215342299Holy shit, we are synched
>Jews want (You)sStay mad
>>215339236I'm not gay but I would kiss and cuddle her
>>215342306>ay nigguh wud duh fuq is aytch tee em ell? dat shit sound satanic. imma photoshop dis shit insteadthat sounds ironically likely
>>215342316>he literally cannot resist Again, slave.
>>215342339shut the fuck up retard I'm not siding with either of you
>>215342316>posts in reference to meThat counts. Keep thinking of me. Keep posting.
smith sent the sentinels after the ship. sentinels are programmed to search and destroy.
Keep giving me those (You)s you want, Jewbacca. That'll show me
>>215342365
>>215342354either of who? that was what we here on 4chinz call a "joke"
>>215342365I don't need (you)s, only your soul.Again, slave
>Moishe thinks he can touch my swag
>>215340096The Wachowskis weren't trans when they made the first movie. With the gains from the first movie, the Wachowskis got too into the wrong dominatrix mistress who made them both take sex change hormones and trannify themselves
>>215342405Moishe controls your entire Godforsaken country. Pretty sure he's not interested in your "swag", goy.
>Moishe thinks I haven't ascended to Ipsissimus, beyond the furthest reaches od Ubermensch status
>>215342477Hold on, anon. He has to read for that one
Trannies are still fighting. Best thread ever.
>>215342477>>215342532Yeah, I knew you were the Alchemy autist lol
>Moishe thinks everyone on the internet is the same personNow that's something you don't see everyday
>>215342477
>Moishe now believes he is on a site that cares about appealing to semitic peoples
>>215342572Moishe knows Crowley and the rest of his dork brigade was a notorious kike-lover
>>215342609okay... lost
>Moishe now believes I give a flying fuck what a Crowley is or likes
>>215342648>Goy cattle is still responding 30 minutes laterwew lad
>Moishe still willingly feeding me (You)s, completely unprompted
>>215342648>Ipsissimus
>Moishe thinks I know what the fuck an imp sissy bitch is supposed to be
>>215342696Goy cattle is terminally online and thinks (you)s mean something.
>Moishe thinks I lose my pride and joy in the face of admonishment
>>215342782>>215342714>>215342609>>215342572>>215342477The current-year ubermensch, ladies and gents.
Well, I think that does it in. I accept the given concession, on part of the illegitimate state of Israel. I hope all anons have a good day.
>>215342216Trannies always dress like caricatures of women, not actual women. I think it's because they need to signal "woman" with every style choice because they'd look even more like a man in jeans and a T-shirt.There's one in my grad school program who always dresses like a 1950s housewife. Long polka-dot dress, bangs, and a full face of makeup every day.Meanwhile the actual women show up in yoga pants and sweatshirts with their hair in messy buns and look more feminine than he could ever hope to be.
>>215342874>t. picrel
>>215340550Death of the Author.Also, the Wachkowskis' tranny allegory claim has as much weight as JK Rowling saying "Uh Dumbledore was gay and Hermoine and Snape were black actually". You can safely ignore the claims of the author of a work if:1. The details of the work don't support or outright contradict the claim.2. The claim is made many years after the production of the work.3. The author's claim is coincidentally in line with the politics of the modern day, leaving them open to accusations of claims made in bad faith.
>viewers in 1999>"imagine deliberately giving up your freedom just to live in a lie, how horrible!">viewers in 2025>"why would anyone take the red pill, it makes no sense"
>>215343167>viewers in 1999>"Interesting philosophical allegory. I learned this stuff from my Waldorf school.">viewers in 2025>"Everyone is secretly trans just like me, and anyone who says otherwise is fucking Hitler and should die!"ftfy
>>215339210>Why would he trust the agents?Why would they lie to him? The agents don't have any incentive to betray him, he just wants to go back into the system.
>>215343233Why are you so obsessed with Rudolf Steiner?
>>215343233>I literally can't shut up about troonsget help
>>215339958this but un ironicallyenjoy the comfy life in zionjust like the real life basically
>>215343469>I literally can't stop cutting my dick offGet help
>>215343453Would it be a bad thing if one were? He was an incredibly influential historical figure. This is like asking why anyone is interested in anything. Probably because they heard about it one day, genius?!
>>215343713>"This but unironically">You walk out into the barren wasteland of Zion>Nothing but a 30° breeze and steel against the soles>"I just enjoy the comfy life of Zion">Thirty alien roboniggers harvest your entire family a few hundred miles into the tunnels, and you can still hear and recognize all their screams>The gigantic metallic dome closes, as a phallic steel jellyfish rolls in>"Ah... the general">You greet him>He is a dysgenic negroid with pale skin, and lack of vitamins. His bones show through, like everyone else's>"Just like real life, yknow"
>>215343893It's a simple question, dude. You've brought him up numerous times throughout the thread as if his philosophy (none of which is unique to him btw) is somehow essential to understanding The Matrix.
>>215340246>Is blatantly wrong>pretends like hes rightThe fucking irony lmao
>>215339236>your
>>215343971here we have another stupid nigger
>>215339974yeah, suffer from a high cholesterol from eating all that succulent steak
