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Hard mode: no The Greatest Story Never Told
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the office
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>>215345633
End of Evangelion
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schindlers list
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>>215345633
This nigga right here. Gaston was a brawny hunter and hero, he was entitled to Belle's pussy 100%. The beast is a cursed heathen and a monster.
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>>215345633
Platoon
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His entire plan was just to help veterans fucked over by the VA by staging a fake rocket attack
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>when the bad guy is evil because he has henchman and makes dirty money
>one lone wolf takes down his entire organization of armed goons
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bad guys cigars and whiskey
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Breakfast Club
Ferris Bueller
Recess
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>>215345785
In the 90s the hero saves San Francisco, now trying to save that hobo aids infested shithole would be seen as woke and a marketing disaster.
Chudbros... we won.
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The Last Samurai
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>>215345672
>movie
>>215345682
>trannyshit
child abuse
>>215345694
>>215345741
>>215345785
>>215345904
>watching zogbotslop as a kid
shitty parents
>>215346024
>weebshit
child abuse
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>>215346048
>child abuse
Yea that's what the series is about

>>215345682
Difficult reality > Easy fantasy
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>>215346048
smoke a cigarette and chill out dweeb.
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>>215345633
Picrel always comes to mind
>Our "heroes" are directly responsible for every single death in the film
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>>215346080
>it just is okay!!
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>>215346425
Huh? I'm not a telepath. Speak your mind.
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>>215346218
Isn't Newman directly responsible for every death in the film
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>>215345633
Die Hard
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>>215346656
Should have paid him
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>>215346024
Who? Omura?
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>>215345633
Wayne's World is the most surprising one on rewatch, Dude was literally just doing his job and made them famous too, and for no reason they just decide to say fuck him and lose everything.
Hell Boy 2 and maybe the first one never saw it.
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Sigh

"Downfall"

Y'all happy now?
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>>215346738
>Hell Boy 2
Get the fuck outta here
This absolute nigger's two goals were
>kill every human on earth
>kill every supernatural creature on earth that doesn't want to kill every human (this encompasses most supernatural creatures, including his own father and sister)
His biggest "well fuck you dude" moment is when he unleashes the giant tree thing and it kills a shitload of people and then Hellboy stops it and he goes "HOW DARE YOU, THAT WAS THE LAST OF HIS KIND"
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Not a movie, but Angel: the Series Season 4
All Jasmine asked for total peace on earth was to eat a few people a day. They would still have had free will about normal stuff, except for the worship of her and the peaceful loving attitude to each others. Basically a hippie's wet dream.
Jasmine, Skip and Connor were the heroes all along.
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>>215346048
>Only ad hominems and no recommendations of his own

Cowardly behavior.
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>>215346715
Yeah, fuck the Samurai.
>Nooo, you can't just modernize the military and nation, improving the lives of the lower class and ensuring we won't be colonized like our neighbors. You have to let us keep being able to do whatever we want while our technology stagnates because muh bushido.
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>>215346961
Note that the actual flaw in her plan is that she was a woman
Remember that Angel visits the dimension she "saved" previously and it fell into ruin because she got bored and fucked off after a few hundred years
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>>215345785
i dont think you really watched the movie. hes essentially presented as an anti-hero at least. the villain of the movie are his right hand men who take charge of the operation after he tries to shut it down after the US called his bluff because he was never going to actually launch the rockets

doesnt he die trying to stop them from launching the rockets or something?
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>>215346024
the "samurai" werent against technology. they were for it actually. the issue was about their caste/place in society. i think the central issue is that the gobment stopped paying the samurai class its stipend or whatever at that time

i dont think its a big issue really, as long as they are actually doing military duties its standard to pay your military. the conflict in japan was really weird and not new vs old or us vs them.
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>>215347371
>orders the slaughter of 10 navy SEALS
>anti-hero
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>>215347519
In The Last Samurai, it's clear that the samurai were anti-guns/technology, anon.
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>>215346961
Eh, she should've been prettier. Not that she was unattractive, but it was the usual problem of "average looking actress hired to play a hypnotically beautiful, unbelievably gorgeous goddess" and it was silly each time someone talked about how beautiful Jasmine was.
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>>215347611
they were making a move. he had to get it on

but seriously they were there to kill him and wouldnt surrender and didnt one of his men start the shooting?
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Mrs Doubtfire. Brosnan's character was entirely reasonable given the circumstances, clearly loved Miranda, enough so that he was warming up to the idea of being a stepdad.
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>>215347611
>orders the slaughter of 10 navy SEALS
Never happened, watch the movie again. Nta btw
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>>215347698
movie should have ended with robin williams getting back together with the wife after all his antics
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>>215347724
>sets up the situation that ends with the slaughter of 10 navy SEALs
happy?
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>>215347698
Was he supposed to be the villain? Even as a kid I understood he was a decent guy that Robin Williams didn't like due to personal reasons. Honestly I saw the mom as a villain more than him.
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>>215347754
thats tranny logic anon. by the same token the us government slaughtered those seals by setting up the situation
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>>215347760
We were at least supposed to find it understandable or wacky at worst that Williams tried to poison him
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>>215346048
>enjoys nothing award.
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>>215347797
if he was a true good person, he would have laid down his arms when he couldn't find a way to pacify non-violently the invaders. instead he killed them, there was no going back after that
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>>215347883
he didnt kill them and was either in the process of doing it non-violently or going to surrender. i cant remember which

it seems like you havent actually watched the movie and are just repeating reddit comments you saw or something
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>>215347919
no he wasn't, anon. the SEALs triggered the motion detector, and he sent his men to take them out. he kept shouting in an increasingly escalating manner, until his forces killed the SEALs.
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>>215345904
This kek
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>>215347969
>HE WAS SHOUTING TOXICALLY

how old are you?
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>>215348006
36. you?
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>>215348015
40 and not a hysterical tranny
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>>215348062
you already lost the argument here btw >>215348006
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>>215348113
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-_OTOkDtRk

heres the clip tranny. as we also see later in the film the general was bluffing the entire time. in the clip you see the seals shoot first and the general screams to his men to stop firing. boom goes the dynamite
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>>215345696
100% agree. Gaston is a monster hunter. The prince was a dick and was turned into a monster. Gaston gave off rapy vibes though.
>>215346024
Hahaha. I can totally see this as the good guys being the bad guys. Especially when laws were made and changed, yet they still wished to keep their way of life.
>>215347698
I can see this. Though both were kind of crazy in the end. One had the power, the other wanted to keep his family. Though how far is to far to keep what you want and destroy someone's happiness for your own?


The biggest is Karate Kid (1984), but that's been beat to death
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>>215348152
>sets up situation for his men to kill SEALs
>isn't actually responsible for their death
oh ok
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>>215348449
you already lost the argument here btw >>215348152
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>>215347629
American slop propaganda
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>>215348515
if the general had laid down his arms after the bathroom shootout, he would have been successfully prosecuted for the murder of the navy SEALs btw
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>>215347611
The survivors of those seal teams would have written 3 books a piece about it
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>>215346656
That was the first one.
this is part two
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Truman show
Pleasantville
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>>215346836
Not how I remember it. Although in the theater I threw a fucking beer can at the screen and should have been kicked out. The guy deserved to win as far as I was concerned. And the beer can I threw was what he tripped on to die, just like hell boy in the movie. He just farted his way into victory by him slipping or some shit. Was one of the funniest movies I've ever watched because of how incompetent the hero was versus the villain.
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>>215345633
Tarzan. The fastest way to study a gorilla is to kill it, proven me wrong.
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>>215347519
Sounds like it was still about old vs new. Just not in terms of the technology.
It was more about how the military was organized.
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>>215345694
this but only ironically
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>>215346048
What's it like to enjoy nothing?
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>>215345633
Ghostbusters

The ghostbusters were handling wildly dangerous technology with no oversight. So dangerous that they could have destroyed the world. And it was in the hands of a con man, two autists, and some nobody off the street.
Dickless was well justified in trying to reign them in.
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>>215349711
This honestly. They acted like assholes during the whole movie, everything was 100% their fault. And they double down in the second
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>>215350014
I was 16 when this film came out and I already understood that the villains won in that film.
Probably because I read a lot of golden age of sci-fi short stories.
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>>215345633
The old hunter was extremely based, he was slandered after doing so much for society (since all his discoveries were donated to science), instead of moping around he went back and worked even harder to prove he was right, until came along Old Simp and Little Fart. Really, what does it matter if he kills that bird? They could simply tell him "there is better tech nowaday, we could take a pic/make a movie, we will be witness in your case" or convince him to capture the bird without harming it, anything was better than simply try and ruin the man for nothing.

There is also the case for the wife being a fucking manipulative cunt. She made Carl waste his whole life being her simp, crying for kids they couldn't have when it was only her that really wanted them in the first place. Calr had nothing going for him except working hard to please her, she knew that and let him a letter saying "you are free now, go live your life". That was grim.
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>>215350014
People rooted for the robot?
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>>215350275
I think you misread a few things about this movie. When Muntz starts to believe Carl and the kid are blocking him from, his bird, he cheerfully makes it clear that he had murdered several other 'trespassers' before them.
Also the montage with the wife isn't about her being manipulative, Paradise Falls was Carl's idea to make it so she didn't spend the rest of her life lamenting the loss, and similarly her message was to tell Carl that he didn't have to spend the rest of his life regretting she wasn't there. It's just that he ironically spent years not being able to keep going through the remainder of the album and missed that message entirely.
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>>215350617
>When Muntz starts to believe Carl and the kid are blocking him from, his bird, he cheerfully makes it clear that he had murdered several other 'trespassers' before them.
Even more based
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>>215345633
Hitler isn't portrayed as the bad guy in that movie. Aside, it's hilarious that it starts with the instrumental of Unchained Melody from Ghost, lol.
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John Kramer is a hero of our time
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>>215349338
He stumbles because his sister stabbed herself and they're linked dumbo.
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>>215345672
Who was the bad guy?
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>>215345633
Tom and Jerry, silvester and tweety, roadrunner and willy coyote.
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>>215349383
What if you want to study how they live?
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>>215352397
Dwight. In retrospect he's totally reasonable and Jim is an annoying faggot.
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>>215352442
Just look at their bones and make something up
-t. paleontologist
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>>215347760
> mom as a villain more than him
This one, this one is wise.
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>>215352406
Coyote and Roadrunner was actually meant to be a deconstruction of Tom and Jerry, but kids just liked it for being like Tom and Jerry.
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>>215352497
>-t. paleontologist
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>>215352528
I hate this. Dinosaurs are supposed to be my special autism place without girls.
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>>215346836
> kill every human on earth
I fail to see the problem.
Pretty sure this is how the aliens will see earth too
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>>215352557
maybe she has a dick?
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>>215345696
I wouldn’t necessarily agree but really he isn’t any worse of a person than the beast
Similar to MegaMind and Evil Jonah Hill
There really isn’t any difference between the two besides the female character liked one more than the other
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>>215352564
Just look at her bones and make something up.
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>>215347734
That’s how It originally ended but Robin didn’t want to give kids a unlikely happy ending since a lot of them might be from divorced parents
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>>215352669
Fun fact: we can tell male and female humans apart by their skeletons
So I guess we could actually do that
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>>215352442
Then I would live in Baltimore.
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>>215352564
Look at the waist to hip ratio - that's a guy
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He was entirely in his right. Damn whores attacked him without any reason.
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>>215349711
They make the reasonable character an asshole so the heroes seem more heroic
They basically do the same thing in every romantic comedy
>two characters should be together
>one of them has a significant other
>we have to make them randomly a huge jerk so the audience will like the characters infidelity
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Memento
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>>215352557
>girls
That's dino mommy to you, worm.
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The Empire in Star Wars did surprisingly little wrong. Especially when you factor in the prequels, and the degrees to which the Republic fucked everything up.
And an argument can be made about Palpatine, who is secretly an evil wizard, but your average Stormtrooper is quite literally not a bad guy at all. Even upper management is just like "well shit, we need to keep this government running, and do something about these terrorists who want to bring back the rule the previous aristocracy, who very much failed to stop the Galaxy falling to shit".
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>>215345633
Inglorious Basterds
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Kill bill
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>>215352942
They literally blew up an entire planet of people.
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>>215345696
The Disney movie really does him dirty. Not only because characters are flanderized for kids, but the animated family movie where talking furies are the norm means the beast is not treated seriously as a threat.
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>>215353017
Planet full of terrorists.
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>>215352759
The amount of bullshit (especially random character assassination) movies go though to justify cuckoldry and/or breaking relationships is staggering.
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>>215353017
*accellerated the planets global warming
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>>215345633
When I was a kid I always wanted the cartoon villains to win. Dick dastardly, coyote, skellator, mojo JoJo etc. the good guys were always such smug little shits and never lost ever it always bugged me
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>>215345696
he literally threatened her father retard.
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>>215352406
I'd say Tom more so than the others
>defends his house from vermin
>gets shat on endlessly for it
Meanwhile Sylvester is trying to eat a fellow pet and the Roadrunner is almost always just minding his own business until Wile E. comes along and tries to kill him
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>>215352528
>look at me
>look at my tits
>i am a paleontologist
>i have a PHD
>look at me
>here's some shit that you could find out about a carnotaurus with a quick google search
>look at me
It's all so tiresome.
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>>215345633
Easy
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>>215345696
Disney's Beauty and the Beast is a subversion of the genre. It has an anti-prince in the Beast and an in Gaston. If you haven't noticed, the message is a beast finding his humanity through love for a woman. She saves the prince.

In as such, Gaston's big motivation isn't just jealousy but he feels that the beast must die to save the town. He is wrong for the right reasons.
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>>215353017
Post proofs
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>>215353149
It just seems like lazy writing really
Either come up with a different reason to keep the characters apart
or deal with the characters trying to ruin the relationship
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>>215345633
The matrix
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>>215354462
agreed if by bad guy, you mean Cypher
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>>215346836
>noooo killing all your enemies to save yourself and your race is bad!
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>>215353267
They both did this
see
>>215352602
>There really isn’t any difference between the two besides the female character liked one more than the other
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>>215347631
Pretty sure it was the hypnosis
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>>215352528
>nose ring
>3 visible tattoos
>half naked
this is because we allowed women to vote.
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>>215346815
The shark was being a bit of an asshole though
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>>215352920
watch her eyes in this video anons.
these are crazy eyes. they hold nothing but pain for you.
train yourselves to recognize them
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Scream
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>>215346738
Only Gen Xers will get it.
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>>215353384
She has an OnlyFans, lol.
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>>215345633
barbie
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Actual hard mode:

Every Vietnam war movie ever
Every Korean war movie ever
Every middle East war movie ever
Every fantasy war against the USSR ever
Every fantasy war against China ever
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>>215354684
>sells out the human race
>(You): that's pretty based actually



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