gay

When does she start to sneak out early to cheat on him with his friend?

>i-is that a vapid narcissistic idiot with a hole to plunge my dick into? Life status: le saved!!

>>215371934
500 Days of Summer
Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind
Ruby Sparks

>>215371934
>being in love is deeply fulfilling and even life-saving?
This is what people who have never been in long-term relationships all naively believe at first but inevitably they're forced to confront the reality that no matter how strong attraction is between two people at first, eventually the passion fades and you'll even get bored of fucking. Love and lust never lasts forever, which is why relationships built on those feelings rarely last. Mutual respect and shared goals are what actually count.

>>215371984
Doesn't happen. He's a kind of introverted guy, a bit of a longer in highschool and college, figured maybe dating just wasn't for him, and then he meets her and they discover they actually have a lot in common and share the experience of having been social outsiders for much of their life. They become friends very quickly and they both sense that this is something they have both been waiting for, and it isn't long before they are lovers because the mutual attraction is unavoidable. Neither can wait until they make the next steps in terms of visiting one another's hometowns, meeting one another's family, going on a holiday together, moving in together, etc. It's like the one thing they really hoped for in life is embodied by the other person, and they are in love, and will remain that way for the next several decades for better or worse. Sometimes they see a couple in a restaurant staring silently into space with miserable expressions on their faces, or see a couple arguing at the store, and they share a little look to one another and all it takes is for one of them to raise their eyebrows and the other is smiling and squeezes their held hand just a little tighter momentarily. Right now, as you are reading this alone in a silent room, they are playing a board game, or sharing a meal, or watching a movie, or having sex, or doing one of the thousands of other things they enjoy doing together.

Sleeping with girls is annoying. I can never fall asleep, their body temperature is too high, my dick is always half hard…
Having sex at her place and then going home to your own bed is peak.

>>215371934
Every relationship beyond the honeymoon phase is hard work AT BEST, much more likely traumatizing suffering. Every single one. Old couples who publicly boast how they still love each other just have mastered the lie.
Everything that releases endorphins wears off.
Everything.

>>215372086
Just get twin beds. It's what me and my gf and did after struggling to sleep comfortably in the same bed. We joke that we're like an old couple already, since our room basically has two single beds separated by a narrow space. We usually lie there whispering for a while and often it leads to us reaching out and holding hands in the dark or leaning over to make out, and true the beds often end up being pushed together so we can have sex but then they're usually separated to allow us a good night's sleep. I recommend it. Every night feels like a sleepover with her.

>>215372154
my relationship with my wife is great tho

>>215372154
You need to find someone who is your match, not just someone who is sexually attractive or tolerable. Once you find her, you'll just know. Trust me.

>>215372292
What if my "match" doesn't exist because I was a mistake and should never have been born?

>>215372084
No offense but that sounds kinda gay

>>215372326
That would be your self-pity talking. You're gonna need to get over that before finding someone who respects you as a man.

>>215372354
That's not going to happen.

>>215372289
>>215372292
>living the lie

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what does it feel like bros

>>215372464
It's literally the best feeling in the world, it's why all the great art, from music to literature to film, all the plays and poems, tackle it. Love is everything. Even the Bible says so.
Without love, you are nothing. And you? Let's face it, nobody will ever love you. You're not even really human. You're just a piece of shit shaped like a human, doomed to never experience what it is to truly live. God doesn't know you. The devil doesn't remember you.
Welcome to the club. There's more of us than you'd think.

>>215372250
wtf, no

>>215372289
Ignorance is bliss

>>215372084
Ahh so its a fantasy story then. Might as well have wizards and dragons too

Been married 31 years in Seadmebade, ask me anything

>late 20s
>3 short relationships
>2 were abusive
>missed out on young love
>missed out on any kind of college romance
Ngl im so depressed im thinking of just ending it when i hit 30. Whatever other people have i just... dont

>>215372537
*Decenber

>>215372599
How did you meet the girls you had relationships with?

>>215372154
Sure, the "roommate phase" comes around 3-5 years in but there's a whole new relationship beyond that. Like so many others, you just never got past that hump. Skill issue. Stop spouting your entry level teenage philosophy, some poor fuck might take you seriously.

Have sex with a hooker

>>215372654
It doesn't happen. Resentment festers, that's all.
t. in a 12 year relationship
Stop mistaking your headcanon with reality.

>>215372640
1st on was my highschool onities who reached out to me when things with her bf started to fall apart. She used me as a rebound but i was naive and excited.
2nd and 3rd were dating apps.
2nd was genuinely a great person, we didnt have a whole lot in common but she was incredibly sweet and fell for me pretty quick. Unfortunately we had to split due to different life goals taking us in different directions.
3rd was a bit later. Were together for a couple of years. It was great at first, but after the first year the sex basically stopped, she became very mean and would basically just treat me like an atm. And she would threten suicide if i tried to leave.

>>215372704
Im sorry you got someone you didnt love pregnant.

>>215372723
I didn't and love does not exist.

>>215372654
The roommate phase is really comfy in my experience.

You basically know each other so well that you no longer even need to waste mental bandwidth on second-guessing the other person or wondering whether they like you etc. You're just two people who respect, encourage and love one another a lot, and you are there for each other in a way that is no longer needy or performative. I guess this is what the bible means when it talks about two flesh becoming one. If I ever feel like a hug I just go and find my girlfriend and get a sense of the situation and then hug her unless I can see she's busy or focused on something. We pick up the tiniest cues about each other, it's like when twin siblings can finish each other's sentences or when a dog/cat acts weird when their owner has cancer but doesn't know it. It's so amazing, beyond words, to be able to live with someone who is your best friend, knows you more intimately than anyone else ever will, and still loves you and is there for you but is also independent and secure enough to have their own life and to respect that you have your own too.

>>215372511
But I believe God knows and loves us all. Perhaps he has a different plan for some of us. Thanks be to God.

>31
>went to my first date
>fucked her like 30 minutes but couldn't cum
>we slept together but I couldn't sleep
it's over for me bros

>>215372729
>love does not exist

Bullshit and you know it. Gets your depressed fixed before it ruins everything worthwhile in your life.

>>215372753
Well, I guess there are worse delusions to have. Keep at it. Hope you never wake up.

>>215372738
Its ok anon. Be glad you dont have the opposite problem. Trust me cumming in 30-60seconds is way way WAY worse than after 30 minutes.

>>215371934
>All the times they fell asleep together she was somehow never topless AND on her back.

>>215372704
>t. in a 12 year relationship
Rookie numbers. I'm sorry you're miserable but it's not my problem.

>>215372708
>It was great at first, but after the first year the sex basically stopped, she became very mean and would basically just treat me like an atm. And she would threten suicide if i tried to leave.

Iktf to some extent. Sorry to hear it bro. But you have experience at least. You're in a much better place to know what you do and do not want in a future relationship.

>>215372808
k, then. Keep at it.

>>215372799
if a girl isn’t a whore she won’t care if you cum quick the first few times, it’s only in a long term relationship that cumming too quick is a problem
only whores expect a good sexual performance the first time you have sex with them

>>215372818
Love is all there is, buddy.

>>215372830
>shell only care if you cum quick if shes a whore but cumming quick is only a problem with long term relationships, ie not a whore
Ok anon, in other words, its a fucking problem

>>215372935
have sex more often with her and you’ll last longer

>>215372923
You kinda seem to be trying to convince two people. Half of your plan is never gonna happen.

ive been dating my girlfriend for 2 months and im not falling in love with her yet
is it too soon?
should i call it off now and stop wasiting time?

>>215374690
what do you think falling in love is

>all these people giving their 2 cents about relationships
you niggers are all kissless virgins, stop lying on the internet

>>215372735
Thanks be to God, anon. He is with us.

>>215375066
This site is a chuddie hugbox. What do you expect?

>>215371934
>>215372084
how do i find this :(

>>215375066
hey buddy i’ve been on 4channel for 20 years, some of us figured out how to get laid and married in that time

>>215371934
>Movies about taking a chance and discovering that being in love is deeply fulfilling and even life-saving?
There is a name for that genre, "fantasy"

>>215372326
I used to think I was alone because I was ugly. Then I realized I was an ass, changed how I treated people, and met my wife. Stop feeling sorry for yourself.

>>215375324
Explain step by step how that happened.

>>215375352
I read The Confessions and started going to mass again.

I have never fallen in love in my entire life and I'm 29 years old. I am not even sure what love is.
I mean I see beautiful girls and I recognize them as beautiful and would like to be intimate with them, but never ever did I go home and continue thinking about anyone really, except for maybe my close family members when they need help or something like that. Never understood the "oneitis" meme since I never experienced it. High school, college or now at work, all the same.

Am I broken? Does "falling in love" just happen or should I actually try to actively do something for that to happen? I just go through life, but this entire part has missed me entirely.

>>215372065
I can attest to this. My last relationship fell apart because the only thing we had in common was sex. I left her after 1.5 years because I didn't see the relationship going anywhere.

>>215371934
being in love ruined my life.

>>215375140
you don't, its pure fantasy. cute girls are never loners.

>>215375105
Such a misunderstood film. People (including my gf) found the character annoying, but I've felt just like her for many years

>>215372734
damn

Is it possible to meet a girl that just loves sex the way you do? 3 years in and it's down to once a month, what the fuck

>>215375376
It's partly a result of lust, especially when you are young. But it's basically a strong attachment, not dissimilar to the one you share with parents, siblings and friends. If you are the type of person who desires and appreciates the aforementioned attachments, then finding a romantic partner will pretty much feel natural to you, much moreso anyway than someone who has to "teach" themselves what it means to be in love. Beyond a certain point, however, love becomes less a stirring of the emotions and more a commitment to care and cherish someone who has promised to do the same for you. It takes effort not to walk away when things get difficult, and the reward for honoring your commitment is a mutual sense of security in a cold and hostile world, a small island of love, compassion and care in an environment where a person, especially a sensitive one, can easily become jaded, indifferent and psychologically brutalised.

>>215372734
i've had this twice and it always ends up sucking. everyone in this thread hyping up relationships are fucking assholes. you're just going to get people to kill themselves.

>>215375492
i can tell from all your posts you're an awful douchebag irl and you should really kill yourself.

>>215375398
What made it clear you had nothing else in common?

One thing that really surprised me in my only ever relationship which ended not too long ago, was how non-curious she was in my life. I must have asked her 1,000 questions, and could still write a 10+ page essay about her life, family, history, likes, dislikes, etc. But I honestly don't think she asked me more than maybe 15-20 questions in the couple of years of knowing each other.

>>215371934
>yes I hate breathing
retarded, when you sleep next to someone you dont fucking cuddle like that just so you can exhale carbon dioxide into each others mouths

>>215375477
I don't understand how you can want sex more than maybe once every two weeks or month. Jerking off okay maybe every four days? But sex involves so much energy, you have to clean up afterwards, then shower, and this isn't to mention post-nut clarity which really fucks with your mood and emotions. I used to laugh growing up when a movie would show a guy ejaculating and then rolling over to sleep. I told myself that I would never be like that jerk! But then you have sex and afterwards you're like "uh, yeah I think I'm gonna go lurk 4chan for like the next four months?" but instead you have to kiss and touch and stuff like that. It's just too much imo and should be rationed like fast food or something.

>>215375501
Why does it end up sucking?

>>215372154
>traumatizing
Stop using this word when you don’t know how bad things can get.

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>>215375606
you always end up getting bored of each other, especially if you're young.

>>215375376
arranged marriages don’t exist anymore, love doesn’t just “happen”, if you want love you must sincerely seek it out with no ironic detachment about it

>>215375527
>What made it clear you had nothing else in common?
I'm a very broody melancholic guy who thinks deeply about a lot of things. There's a thousand layers to me. But with my ex, what you saw was what you got. There was no mystery to the world for her. Everything was skin deep and surface level. I actually felt lonelier with her than I did in my previous much shorter relationship. Resentment grew over time and I had to end it. She was devastated. I always half wondered why she loved me so much when we were two completely different people with completely different worldviews. I stayed with her far longer than I should have. But, the sex was incredible, which explains a lot why I did.

I could have lost my virginity this year to a person who might as well be my soulmate (if that’s even a thing) and definitely my type (I’m hers too) if she wasn’t in a boring 7 year relationship with some faggot. Now I gotta be feeling like some dejected orbiter.

>>215375682
move on dude don’t be some woman’s backup option, have some self respect, you’re fantasizing too much, your soulmate is not a chick in a 7 year relationship, and if she cheats on him to be with you she isn’t a chick worth keeping

>>215375776
I literally lost so much energy and sanity over all of this I might as well kill myself.

>>215375821
just move on, you’ll waste even more time and energy if you dont

>>215375675
Thanks for answering.

>>215375821
Move on bro. Good news is you're still capable of love, relish that capacity within yourself.

>>215375821
In 2023 I went on a few dates with a woman I was head over heels for and I thought could be my soulmate. She rejected me and I drank half a bottle of whiskey in tears sitting on the floor. I thought I would never meet anyone like that again. In 2025 I not only met someone better than that girl, but she actually loves me as much as I love her. Never give up.

>>215376067
How did you meet these women?

I really don't understand how people just meet other people.

>>215372326
join the club

>>215376113
Dating apps unironically. They do work. At least in my country (Ireland)

if you want love, briefly but sincerely express your desire for a lifelong permanent relationship on your online dating bio
your matches will be fewer but with a lot more potential

>>215371934
very unrealistic. At some point you settle for 3-4 positions you always go to
1. her hair in your face while she the little spoon
2. her head crushes your shoulder
3. backs to each other
4. facing each other but legs cuddling

why are there so many sex havers on this board, disgusting

>>215372537
What's with your auto-correct?

I dont deserve love, because i am trash.

>>215371934
No couple actually sleeps like that.

>>215372154
I was surprised to find out how close to a divorce the happiest couple from my church was
It's literally just fake laughs and smiles especially after having kids

>>215377217
not my relationship haha

>>215377229
Sure anon you're definitely the special snowflake your wife is wholesome and cute unlike other women

>>215377808
i appreciate this acknowledgment

>>215376276
>not spooning but head to toe so your head is cradled between her thighs and you naturally inhale every little abdominal utterance all night long
No wonder the flame went out of your relationship long ago

>>215371934
>anton yelchin is an average looking, average built, average height man
>has felicity jones as his gf

is this pairing even remotely realistic?

>>215377992
I'm from a small city in eastern europe where people still attend church occasionally; suffice to say that some schools are closing due to lack of kids
I bet some of you westoids still believe in muh trad eastern women but that's no longer the case
The world you were born into no longer exists
Go to sleep boomer boy

>>215372084
Lmao this sappy faggot has clearly never lived with a woman he was fucking long term

>>215372250
God you zoomers are insufferable

>>215375649
fuck
What is this?

I've been with I think 9 women and I never loved any of them as much as I'd pretended otherwise

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>meet someone
>things going well
>think this is it, you've finally found the one
>life gets in the way
>break up
>life goes on and wonder "what if"
The realest story about love ever

>>215372599
live out of spite and pray we get too see the nukes fly someday

women really aren't worth shit

>>215372250
Gay.
I also kind of like it desu

>>215371934
I don't watch fiction unless it's sci fi.

>>215372154
i've been jogging every day for 20 years and the endorphins have never worn off. sorry your life sucks and you're deeply depressive tho.

>>215371934
met a girl who told me she loved the movie LOVE by gaspar noe. i want to show her that music vid he made but don't wanna seem like a pedo.

>>215372086
>Having sex at her place and then going home to your own bed is peak.
This. I always have a big ass fat person's meal because I starve myself the days of.

Whenever they want to sleep over I do maybe 5m of cuddling and then I turn over and sleep in the fetal position with a big pillow between my knees.

>>215379638
You’re a slut

>>215380448
who isn't

I had true love once in my life and completely squandered it. She was literally the only one I've had in 22 years and I completely fucked it and there's very little chance of anything like it ever happening again. I'm so miserable bros...
Anyway, what movie is this from, I see it posted here in bait threads like this all the time.

>>215375105
Getting it now, looks good.
>>215375140
To get what you want from others you have to know what others want and be able to provide it to them.
>>215379619
The green ray (1986)

>>215371934
she was probably cheating on him

>>215372086
this. sure, i love to cuddle for a bit after sex, but then my arm goes dead. also i toss and turn all night, which pisses them off. i also gotta get up to pee at night. and yeah, having a half-hard dick is not conducive to sleep. women are annoying and i don't like them.

>>215375655
why is a life long romantic relationship so ephemeral and boring, but a life long friendship is normally unquestioned? i think yall are just bad at finding complementary women

>>215371934
Don’t listen to the faggots who tell incels getting pussy won’t help them. Getting a GF literally saved my life, made me stop jerking off to porn and Vidya, and made me want to pursue my goals. Even if she leaves you and it’s nasty, better to have loved and lost than never loved at all.

Men need pussy to live for. Without pussy we just stay inside and play vidya annd watch porn all day.

>>215382589
>better to have loved and lost than never loved at all
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/1yMA7T8U2xU

>>215375615
You're bad at guessing.

>>215382589
>better to have loved and lost than never loved at all
IDK all it's done has made me feel worse given now I know what I've been missing and that there's a high probability I'll never get that again. Before I just sort of stumbled into it unintentionally and treated it like a weird side quest, now it consumes my being to the point of self-hatred.

>>215382670
the optimistic perspective is that im happy i am capable of loving and accepting love. im confident that if i stay positive it's inevitable to happen again

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>>215379821
im going to hit you with my car

>>215372154
this.
I'm 40 years old and I've never been able to truly let go in a romantic relationship except for the first time. For a few years, my girlfriend and I have been working hard to make things work, but I refuse marriage or even cohabitation; it's as if I want to keep an escape route open. However, the work involved, even just to truly be together, is a lot and very hard. I envy couples who manage to stay together for life without asking too many questions. Ignorance is truly a bliss.

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>>215382876
>happy i am capable of loving and accepting love
Yeah, but I feel like for both of us here on the 'chan we knew deep down it was a forgone conclusion even before we had our delayed first loves.
It was a particularly bitter experience for me because it was a taste of teen love I never personally experienced due to COVID. She was 17 and I was 20, which was socially questionable at the time and legally on the bubble in a state where 16 was the AoC (I'm American where you're immediately ostracized and slammed as a "pedo" if you go out with anyone younger than you). I didn't have sex, but I held her close, kissed her tenderly, and felt her breasts. It was beautiful, it was great, and now I'm too old for anything like that and all the women age-appropriate for me have been run through and lack the decency or humanity you see in teen love.
I just feel like picrel now, looming and creeping around the bars and clubs of the shithole I wound up in, crucified by regret and remorse.