>>215375680
yeah that's the story dipshit

>Jedi refuse to bring peace, freedom, justice, and security to the Republic
>Anakin helps Palpatine form the Empire so they can later use the united front to fight the Yuuzhan Vong
>His son later fucks this all up, trillions die

>>215375729
>Yuuzhan Vong
Not Canon!

>>215375729
>the emperor has the perfect propaganda victory in his back pocket the entire time
>he just never told anyone and never explained himself at all
Get this stupid fucking EU tranny shit out of here retard

>>215375680
>child slave that was forced to willingly abandoned his mother has a narcissistic world view after becoming a jedi well passed the age cut off, and being a famed and accomplished commander in battle
>surprisepikachu.exe
Do you people even think about your posts before clicking "post?"

Isn't he a prodigy war hero thats saved countless lives including some of the people in the council?

>>215376106
>forced to willingly abandoned
ESL faggot please fuck off until you learn English.

>>215376125
Depending on how much you want to discuss George, his involvement in the expanded media, the sand people incident, and portrayals of the character beyond the 3 films, no. He was more of a mentally unstable war criminal that would occasionally murder people with little provocation or justification and everyone sort of just pretended he wasn't doing it because they wanted to believe he was the chosen one and not an insane, aggressive retard. He was also doing shit he knew he wasn't supposed to be doing like porking padme, marrying her, knocking her up, and everyone that knew about that hid it on his behalf as well.
The interpretation that he was a spoiled brat given way too much leeway is just as accurate as calling him a war hero.

>>215376314
>with little provocation or justification
you're mentally ill

>>215376352
Murdering surrending officials would get you executed in any real military but IIRC he did that once in the clone wars cartoon because he was mad. Im not asking about the sand people rape, but I could be misremembering why he did it.

>>215375704
It's a shitty story.

>>215375729
Just like in 40k, where the fractured humanity is proven unable to stand against the horrors of the universe, in star wars too a united empire is better equipped to face them. Both the Emperor of mankind and Palpatine were right, the difference being that Palpatine is a corrupted cunt and the Emperor is not.

he's literally me

>indoctrinated since he was like 5 into order of gay religious monks
>"no you can't have any fun"
>"no you can't have pussy"
>"no you can't enjoy anything ever"
>"yes you must take orders from a puppet"
you can see why he chudded out

>>215375680
>younglings called him Master Skywalker
Mace was probably going to formally promote him as a reward for exposing Palpatine as a Sith, but he had to fuck that up like a retard

>>215376628
He was promoted to Master before he betrayed them. He was mad that he was not given a position on the Jedi Council....while he spent every waking minute lying to the Jedi Council....and he was mad they....didn't trust him.
Spoiled brat.

somehow...the empire returned

>>215376656
It was the opposite. Mace let him be on the council but didn't give him the rank of master.

>>215376700
Ah, it's been a long time. My point stands. Whichever honor they did not grant him, he did not deserve.

>>215376562
He was too good looking to be part of that group of lames. Was he allowed to quit? What if he just said peace and left to go be with Padme and his kids instead?

>>215376314
yes the child slave recruited into a war was just so spoiled

>>215376817
Yep when he decided to not live by their code while demanding everyone give him everything he wants because he is le chosen one, he is spoiled. They were within their rights to send him to planet Antarctica to kick rocks instead they placate him some more and he fucks them over at a pivotal moment on behalf a woman he wasn't supposed to be with (but how dare they not trust him, he does whatever they ask!). Brat.

>>215375680
He was insulted they were using him for political gain, shithead. But then Obiwan asked him as a friend so he went along with it.

>>215376866
Why shouldn't they, he's not even being a Jedi right. Fuck him.

>>215376849
You forgot the part where a Sith lord was manipulating him into said behaviors

Obi Wan not standing up for him while Mace was shitting on him was a cowardly dick move. The council were as arrogant as Anakin and some basic human dignity and conversation could have avoided everything.

>>215375680
Sounds like a realistic reaction tbqh. Kids are impatient, entitled, impulsive, and unwilling to earn their place in the world.

>>215376884
A sith lord manipulated him into having sex with padme over and over again and cumming inside of her and hiding it for several years. Damn man palpatine is a bro.

>>215376927
Why? Mace was right. Anakin didn't deserve to be on the Council and he didn't deserve to be a Master. He didn't deserve to be left on the Palpatine detail either.

>won't let you level up your skill tree when you know your pregnant wife is facing imminent death

>>215376947
Yes, he saw to it that they would be paired up alone at their sexual peaks, knowing that Anakin had not received the celibacy indoctrination from childhood. He also repeatedly encouraged him to seek a seat on the council.

>>215376432
>the Emperor is not
Lorelet

I watched this tonight. One thing bugs me:
>Anakin goes to the opera and listens to Palpatine talk about the "legend of Darth Plagueis," which he implies could be his own story but only very ambiguously
>"Is it possible to learn this power?"
>"Not from a jedi."
>Nothing more is said
>Anakin goes back to his fuckpad and immediately tells Padme he has found a way to save her from his nightmares. He has come to this conclusion entirely on the strength of that vaguely allusive opera conversation

This makes Anakin seem like a literal, special-school retard. While it's true that Palpatine was the apprentice of Plagueis, Palpatine never said he managed to learn that power from his master. So when Palpatine later reveals he doesn't know it, Palpatine is not guilty of any dishonesty in this respect, and Anakin now looks like a double-retard for not asking any questions. What Palpatine told him was true, from a certain point of view.

>>215376562
What was the reason they couldn't have sex? Nothing about Jedi's being celibate was implied in the OG trilogy. George was such a fucking retard.

>>215377030
>Nothing about Jedi's being celibate was implied in the OG trilogy
We only knew about Kenobi and Yoda, and frankly they didn't feel like sex machines.

>>215377030
Who cares? Anakin was doubtless told an infinite number of times it was a prerequisite but he insists on getting to be a master while doing it. Hypocrite doesn't even describe it he's more of a DEI hire jeet just pretending he's not fucking everyone else over. He knew he didn't deserve it, he knew it was wrong when he ran in there and chopped off Mace's killing arm. Oh yeah and even that conversation is fucked up, he doesn't disclose to Mace WHY he thinks Palpatine is a sith lord, nor does he detail what Palpatine told him, nor does he ask to be relieved and sent elsewhere, nor does he admit he's got a problem.
He was trying to game Mace and Palpatine at the same time to get what he wanted. He wanted Palpatine captive so he could....learn dark side shit from him.

What an Asshole.

>>215376947
I totally would have had to been “manipulated” into having sex with a princess who looked like 18 year old Natalie Portman and was in love with me, too

>>215376969
He was right to not give Anakin the rank of Master, but he was a huge dick about it, behavior unbecoming of a Jedi Master. The fact that Mace fell so easily for Palpatine's ploy designed to fuck with them and in fact he even leaned into it showed he lacked the wisdom a Master should have had.

he couldn't take a sip.

>>215377030
The rules just said that Jedi couldn't form romantic attachments, so technically sex would be fine by itself

>>215377013
Palpatine killing his master before learning the secret was also a 50 IQ move on his part. Everything involved in this schlock was written terribly. These movies needed a few more drafts written.

>>215377093
I feel that Mace and Anakin are both responsible for Mace's death, because they both went into the Chancellor's office without first notifying the order, the senate, the clone army, or any other authority that would have been able to follow up on the problem in the event of the arrest failing. Instead, Mace went in with just three Masters, not considering that if they died the Chancellor's secret would be safe and the galaxy doomed.

>>215377171
That tracks with Sheev's character. Hubris ans sheer love of treacery was his downfall in the end as well.

>>215376432
>and the Emperor is not.
He's a puppet of Chaos.

>>215377013
Always thought the real significance of the opera scene was the implication that the force experiments Palpatine did with Plagueis indirectly resulted in Anakin's fatherless conception.

>>215377013
Palps said his master taught him everything he knew, so yeah it was a fucking lie from Palps. So the speech is not even clever on that front.

They should have made star wars chips you could eat and a star wars burger

So zoomers like prequels because Anakin is an incel chud with fascist inclinations and they identify with him?

>>215377328
Anakin had a pregnant wife lil bro

>>215377273
That's definitely part of it. Palps says "search your feelings" to Anakin, and Vader will later say "search your feelings" to Luke. It's the father-to-son line in Star Wars.

>>215377340
He acted like incel school schooter in AotC.

>>215377385
Yeah, he exhibits classic incel behaviour in the early scenes where he's trying to seduce Padme and creating horrible award moments. He also leers at her behind her back at one point.

>>215377283
I think Denny's did that

>>215377419
You mean the movie where he's rightfully awkward as a young man whose part of a celibate religion and then quickly moves past that and even marries the girl?

>>215377419
They are hilarious. I rewatched the movie yesterday and laughed at some of those scenes. She even says to him to stop staring at her because it makes her feel uncomfortable and Anakin replies "Sorry, my lady" and starts smiling like a creep.

>>215375680
Apparently there was something in the archives that would've helped him with his Padme problem, but access to the section it's in is restricted to Masters.

>>215377636
why didn't he just Masterbate?

>>215377636
Why didn't the movie say that?

>>215377030
The Jedi Order formed during the Republic abstained from forming any attachments due to the potential of it carrying over to the dark side if and in the likely event of a loved one dying or in danger. This changed with the NJO formed by Luke, as he was married to Mara. So that was obviously changed by that point to prevent the mistakes of their predecessors.

Ki-Adi Mundi is a rare exception to this rule as he HAD to reproduce since he was a member of an endangered species.

Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan were also rare exceptions as they had relationships but fell out due to their loved ones dying.

>>215375680
>old jewdi hate the new blood
>legislate to make sure they NEVER EVER get ahead in life
>they begin to age out
>new blood notices that nobody can win and when they die, nobody is there to replace them
>ask for a leg-up to get ahead of the wave
>No lmao sorrry goydawan
>joins the sithnese
>lets the sithnese win by killing the black(s)
>30 years of oppression, then a strong woman comes and restores peace by utilizing an ancient strategy (drone warfare)
What did lucas mean by this?

>>215375680
He had a point, how can you be on the council and not be a master?

>>215375680
Except he joined the council but was not granted the rank of master

>>215379488
It's probably widely accepted that the no sex rule will be discreetly broken by the majority of Jedi. It's Don't Ask Don't Tell.

>>215375680
Surely him sperging out and acting like he wanted to cut all their heads off was a good indication that he wasn't fully qualified to be Jedi and needed some urgent retraining?

>>215376562
fighting is fun if you're good at it and jedi are good at it. Any self respecting man would take that trace

infinitely better than being a le hubby wifeguy

>>215379645
controlling your urges should be the most basic shit ever.

>>215375680
It's meant to parallel the rise of Octavian (Augustus) and the fall of the Roman Republic. Use your eyes/ears/brain to see if you can find any modern examples of an uneducated retard bringing down an admittedly corrupt & broken institution :)

>>215375680
>shitty, poorly written movies are shitty and poorly written
Wow, ya don't say?