Can someone sum up why these movies are bad without bringing the characters race or gender into the equation
horrible writing
>>215376484written by a boardroom committee of talentless nepotism execs that hate the source material and hate the fans of it>genociding the heroes of the original trilogy is good chudfuck off freak
>>215376484The entire thing amounts to nothing. The OG's are all dead, but without this you could reasonably assume they were going to die without further purpose to begin with. They establish nothing for the future; "Rey Skywalker" is out there, but doing what? There are "Resistance Stormtroopers" out there, what's that about? No, nothing? Ok.Like even the worst, most boring Marvel movie still tells a complete story. This is an entire trilogy of movies that couldn't even do that.
>>215376484The writing, the marketing, the merchandising, the character design, the ship design, the planet designs....
>>215376484Only Rise of Skywalker is bad, and it's because they tried to make it more like the prequels.
>>215376484First sum up why these movies are good according to you
>>215376484None of the protagonists had satisfying arcs. Finn especially was given a compelling enough set up that went absolutely nowhere as he steadily devolved into a comic relief side minstrel character by the final film. Bringing back Palpatine as the antagonist at the last minute was also jarring because there's zero set up and they don't even bother to meaningfully explain his connection to Snoke. It just felt like wasted potential all around because nobody could be asked to conjure up an overarching plotline for the trilogy before spending a billion+ dollars bringing it to life, which is absolutely insane.
>>215376484photographybad actingtoo much cgibad writtingbad settingnot plot at alljust scene after sceneFLASHBACKSbad narrativebad actorsNO TIMESKIP BETWEEN FILMSand I am pretty sure tha the list goes on
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>>215376484First movie was an unoriginal, shitty remake of ANH with worse characters. Second movie was the dullest, most logically inconsistent misunderstanding of an IP you will ever see, and the third was a pathetic, sorry attempt to round off the complete mess the first two movies created.
why is star wars poasting increasing?
>>215376484funny considering 99% of positive comments about Disney Wars only involve gender, race and killing off the past
>>215376774Because of the recent comment by George Lucas where he said "I moved on from Star Wars, I got a life". The SW fan community is pissed off, they feel it was directed at them.
>>215376538They'd be much better if they had corporate committee writing. A committee would have written some basic hero's journey at least. They actually had writing choices made by people that thought their quickly improvised teenage fanfic ideas based on their empty self-satisfied lives were good enough to bet billions of dollars on.
>>215376484>Can someone sum up why these movies are bad
>>215376484Rey Skywalker (No blood relation)
Because the whole cast is made up of black women
>>215376484They were clearly made by a committee of people who didn't know what they fuck they were doing or had any real vision for anythingThese movies exist solely for this reason - Yidsney bought the property and wanted to milk it for every last shekel it was worth.The race/gender bait was precisely an example of their being no real vision for anything, they went into this saying ok we need a female mc and a black guy and a bunch of other racial tokens for our new ultra diverse star wars property!
>>215376913>The SW fan community is pissed off, they feel it was directed at them.It was. And they're proving it was correct by posting about Star Wars more.
Imagine making a new trilogy and the whole point of it is that The Emperor didn't die and was hiding all this time in a secret planet making a lot of star destroyers to take the universe again. Who cares...All that happened in the 6 previous movies to defeat The Emperor and then he didn't die...
>>215377993didnt he win, his granddaughter is like OP now, or is she a trannywalker that we have to just accept shes Skywalker bc she said it
The only things I see they could do that is interesting is a movie of young Palpatine with Plagueis.And something old like when the Jedi Order was created and how the Sith then split from them. Apart from that I don't know what else could you tell that is interesting to see.How the Jedi and the Sith were created and how young Palpatine became a sith lord under Plagueis and then killed him.
>>215378089The problem with these movies is that everyone knows the plot already from the videogames and novels xD
>>215376484Movie 1 is Abrams throwing everything in the first 6 movies away so he could LARP as George Lucas in 1976. It is important to iterate that he doesn't actually have a plan here beyond setting up mystery boxes for other writers to come in and solve for him. Movie 2 is Ryan Johnson seeing that Abrams threw everything in the trash, decided that wasn't enough, and set the trash can on fire along with half of Abram's mystery boxes. Movie 3 is Abrams trying to salvage the mystery boxes and deliver a conclusion to a trilogy that is still low on the rising action part of the plot diagram after Colin Trevorrow wisely cut his losses and fucked off. It is important to reiterate that Abrams was not intending to solve his own mystery boxes, so theoretically Ryan burning half of them shouldn't matter. They don't work cohesively together, let alone in a greater saga of media that came before them. 8 doesn't even work cohesively with itself. Everything about these movies showcase a fundamental misunderstanding of not just the PT, but the OT as well. Not only are they not a good entry to Star Wars, they are not good as standalone movies either.
>>215377907>no relationPalpatine's force experiments with Darth Plagueis resulted in Anakin's conception
>>215378364According to fanfiction, maybe.
>>215376484It’s a longhouse movie and you can tell by the way the meandering story goes nowhere particularly interesting or good
>>215376484can you explain why this chicken dinner is bad without bringing up the fact we replaced the chicken with rocks. either you want my assessment of the whole or you want a fake review.
1. Was literally a point by point copy of ANH2. Was somewhat good and refreshing3. Cucked and did the most generic movie ever
>>215379205Hello Ryan
>>215376484The movies start off by continuing the story after the very final "happily ever after" moment in Episode 6. They do this by saying "...What you didn't know is that ending wasn't actually very happy!"So as far as I am concerned the movies started off on the wrong foot and all the problems spiraled from there.
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>>215376484As individual Star Wars films; they're not entirely terrible, but as a trilogy trying to tell Rey's story; they're complete dog shit. Mostly because Rey is a shitty "character" that we really get nothing interesting out of. There's no personal growth or any real direction for her, she just meanders about girlbossin' on anyone that challenges her.There's no heart beyond surface-level schmaltz, the films give us no actual reason to care about anything happening.
>>215378206this
If you don't know it already then you don't belong here. I don't say this to be mean, your IQ is probably too low.
>>215376726not sure what this is saying
retarded shit like this and the casino/Rose plot and many other bafflingly bad decisions, like the dagger.Zero fan service like getting the original crew back in the Falcon cockpit one last time, not a single Han/Luke scene (admittedly they didn't have many scenes together in 5 or 6 either). Nobody gives a shit about Finn, and Boyega gave a terrible performance. And yeah fatigue.
>>2153782067 was always going to be bad for that reason, but 9 could have redeemed the trilogy if it had been good. Instead it was the worst of all. 8 was the only decent one specifically because it shat on 7 and at least attempted some kind of message around stop being a man-baby and letting things go so the next generation can have a chance. We're still having a problem with that in American culture.
>>215376484These movies are amazing. Everyone loved them and they were a huge success.
>>215382499>8 was the only decent one Oh yeah the one that just decided to destroy the whole Star Wars mythos in 2 hours was amazing for sure. Kys, retard.
>>215383360>>8 was the only decent oneThis is correct. Well done.
>>215376484My childhood self-insert jobbed
>>215376484I liked it when Luke diedWhat a fucking bum
>>215383360If you were paying attention 7 did that. Within the opening crawl, even. Your misdirected rage at 8 is that it was telling you to grow up, not that it shit on Star Wars. It was trying to make Star Wars wake up and say something meaningful, not be memberberries and schmaltz.
>>215382499>woah war profiteers exist isn't that pretty deep?Nah 8 can still go fuck itself.
>>215383441>It was trying to make Star Wars wake up and say something meaningful"Bro just forget your past it's all shit just accept the new normal!"Deep AF, Rian.
>>215383456Not the message.>>215383463Also not it but at least closer.
>>215383474>Not the message.That is the message of the C plot in casinoland. I don't blame you for forgetting it, it was pretty garbo and not even relevant to the movie itself.
>>215383479Okay but your fixation on that part is not what has you angry, it's the excuse you made to justify your anger at the real message because you didn't like what you were being told. It's like how Joker was medicine that libs didn't want to swallow. TLJ was medicine that manchildren didn't want to swallow.
>>215383514>1/3rd of the movie's runtime being 2deep4u filler isn't why you think the movie is badWanna bet?
>>215383514You write like a 15 year old tranny.
>>215383514Your movie sucked, Rian
>>215383531>>215383543>>215383550Rest my case at all this seething desu
>>215383574>Says something obviously contrarian>Get (you)s>"Haha lol epic seethe"Go back to plebbit, tranny.
>>215383607TLJ is the best SW movie since empire tho
>>215377836>Soon after, he was murdered by his own son.Top kek
>>215383743(You)
>>215383574It's all one guy with a massive fanboy boner for MUH LUKE. He blames Rian for taking away his precious Luke and shits up every thread with his Luke asslust.
>>215383743>>215383763NTA, I rested my case.
