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>gets brutally raped the first night they spend together
>immediately falls madly in love with her rapist to the point where she's willing to sacrifice everything to keep him around

What did JRR Martin mean by this?
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>>215393551
In the novels she wasn't even raped. If I remember right she jumped on top of him and fucked him in front of the whole camp
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>>215393551
Rape? They were husband and wife.
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>>215393551
placating your abuser is a survival mechanic. if someone is willing to rape you then they're probably capable of killing you. you might begin to tolerate and normalize the abuse in order to avoid more serious harm
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>>215393764
she wasn't raped on their wedding night but iirc drogo does rape her a few times after that
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>>215393805
no he doesn't
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>>215393804
Sounds like an easily exploitable mechanic
No wonder people say women have no agency
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>>215393804
>raping a woman will keep her in line
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>>215393764
>>215393805
are you women?
What pathetic retards read such a smutty fantasy books series?
There are 100s of great classic you haven't read.
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>>215393824
>Even the nights brought no relief. Khal Drogo ignored her when they rode, even as he had ignored her during their wedding, and spent his evenings drinking with his warriors and bloodriders, racing his prize horses, watching women dance and men die. Dany had no place in these parts of his life. She was left to sup alone, or with Ser Jorah and her brother, and afterward to cry herself to sleep. Yet every night, some time before the dawn, Drogo would come to her tent and wake her in the dark, to ride her as relentlessly as he rode his stallion. He always took her from behind, Dothraki fashion, for which Dany was grateful; that way her lord husband could not see the tears that wet her face, and she could use her pillow to muffle her cries of pain. When he was done, he would close his eyes and begin to snore softly and Dany would lie beside him, her body bruised and sore, hurting too much for sleep.
sounds like rape to me
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>>215393551
Drogo is comically anti-rapey with her in the book for some barbarian savage, he literally sits down with her and says he won't fuck her until she says yes
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Women love to be raped, it's why men are born with barbs on our penises so it grips inside of the vagina and they can't get away.
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>>215393880
name one book pseud
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>>215393551
>What did JRR Martin mean by this?
The same thing he meant by having sunset find her squatting in the grass, groaning. Every stool was looser than the one before, and smelled fouler. By the time the moon came up, she was shitting brown water. The more she drank the more she shat, but the more she shat, the thirstier she grew.
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>>215393805
>>215393551
there is no such thing as marital rape.
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>>215393551
>>gets brutally raped the first night they spend together
>>immediately falls madly in love with her rapist to the point where she's willing to sacrifice everything to keep him around
it was a different time
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>>215393551
>Women praise this as a great romance
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>>215393551
Raping your wife is like stealing your own property.
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>>215393551
they should have gone with the way it went down in the book.

>>215393805
post the page where it happens, tubby.
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>>215393551
Is she sodomize him here?
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>>215394191
That she be.
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>>215393846
This made me laugh
Kek thanks anon
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>>215393551
this just sounds like a typical female romance novel
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>>215393764
He sort of raped her later but in a 1950s depressing way not in a fantasy show way. GRRM had a weird way of writing married life that made it sound like anything but extreme enthusiasm every night was rape. He’s mostly good at writing women but fucked up for things like this. It’s clear he didn’t really intend to portray him as a rapist.
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>>215393764
Yeah, she didn't like it at first but it consensual and not rape at all in the books. Gurm has a ton of actual rape in ASOIAF.
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>>215395007
for me, it's the 12 or 13 year old girl getting gangraped by soldiers
you just know he jerked off to that
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Jaime didn't rape Cersei in the books and I hate Dumb&Dumber for changing it in the show.
>>215395025
Gurm clearly giggled and rubbed his hands when writing some scenes.
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Someone post the shirt, I haven't seen it in a long time. Please and thank you.
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>>215394944
>married life that made it sound like anything but extreme enthusiasm every night was rape.
almost all cases of "marital rape" are just this
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>>215393967
On the Consolation of Philosophy -Boethius.
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>>215393764
She was raped to the point she wanted kill herself retard. Read the book on the first time he was gentle
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>>215395239
>She was raped to the point she wanted kill herself
Citation needed.
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>>215393551
The scene is way hotter in the book
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>>215393551
exhibition #342451 on how women want to be raped, and that's why its immoral to rape them
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>>215393896
Stop, I’m gonna come
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>>215393551
>exiled noblewoman who has always been ordered around by her brother and his retainers submits to the horrible savage warlord she was sold to
sounds like her just sort of accepting her fate, then embracing it enthusiastically as she integrates into their culture and realizes what sort of power she has as Drogo's wife
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>>215393551
Read the novel, he treats her like shit, but because they value women differently and he does not even classify her as THEIR women.
He sees her just as an object.
Their first time having sex he is incredibly gentle.

Afterwords he considers her THEIRS.
To which he treats her as he would their women.
By fucking her nightly to absurd excess.
It's not rape in the slightest, but it is a bit silly.
Like damn dude I like getting my nut, but let her have a night off every once in a while.
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>>215393824
>>215394944
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>>215395764
Why are you lying?
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>>215395239
That happens to every woman occasionally after sex. It just depends on the time of the month and if she's getting enough attention and praise in her daily life.
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>>215393846
If you're not the type of guy who does it naturally you're probably not scary enough to get away with it
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>>215393551
>Gets mildly hurt the first time she has sex
>Immediately assumes she got raped (even though as a virgin she would have no idea what sex is supposed to be like) and bows revenge on her husband to the point she jeopardizes her position and her quest the restore the honor of her house

I wonder what the difference was
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>>215395896
U serious nigga? He tortured her with dogs. Don't need a PhD in sex to understand that's fucked up
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>>215395896
Bro what? Ramsey rapped her. She was beautiful.
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>>215395962
All I remember from the show is her telling Littlefinger "he hurts me every night" and not elaborating further
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>>215395823
You didn't read my post at all.
I mean literally, you didn't even read my post.
You (you)ed me bro, but you don't even know what my post says.

Bro why you playing with me, my emotions.
Just have a conversation and stop being such a fucking asian shit.
This isn't India, this isn't China.
Bro just let me in and stop putting up walls around yourself. Let me love you bro.
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>>215393551
>Dany fights (kind of) for freedom, equality, and mercy
>Simps for the Dothraki, the worst people on the face of the Earth
I will never understand why Martin did this. Is it Stockholm Syndrome?
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>>215396446
The Dothraki are certainly the freest people in the world.
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>>215396446
The Dothraki got tamed by her indomitable stronk will (and dragons)
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>>215396386
he forced her to rim theon/reek in the books, and possibly to fuck dogs
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>>215394919
You aren't supposed to put actual good media in Quintain memes.
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>>215396513
I know that you didn't read the books for certain from that post alone.
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>>215393804
Women love rape because if someone is willing to rape you then they're probably willing to lose everything just it be with you. Imagine feeling so desired and wanted that another human is willing to risk life in prison for you. That's romantic as hell.
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>>215394919
>avatar
kys
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>>215393551
she knew she had to have sex with him even though she didn't want to. i wouldn't call it rape
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>>215396558
I'm sure you 'know' lots of things that aren't so, given that you're a gay retard.
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>>215393551
Take a look at all the smutt that women read, its always about being dominated by a strong man/creature
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>>215393805
A husband can't rape his wife.
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>creature
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Danny is 13.
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>>215396701
>>215396780
inshalla brothers
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>>215396771
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>>215393764
Who fucking cares about the book the fat retard couldn't even finish them
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>>215396866
poor bears,
all the abuse and no facial queues to express suffering the females
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>>215393551
In what universe is having sex with your wife rape? That's the whole point of marriage.

It annoys me when those whores like sansa and daenerys call normal sex rape.
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>>215398278
it's rape when your wife is 13 YEARS OF AGE

retard
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>>215398366
Um no?
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>>215398366
Yeah they didn’t even have the same life experience, what would they have in common to talk about
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>>215398366
Did she have her menstruation already? Then she's not underage.

It seems to me you're racist against Dothraki people when you call their customs rape
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>wife
>rape
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>>215393551

He meant that Hindus are right about women and children. Rape is a holy form of worship and females of all ages respond to it positively, it's only western male cucks who made it into something bad.
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>>215393551
GRRM is a retard
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>>215398887
yet he's a millionaire and you're nothing. Interesting.
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>>215398601
>being against fucking 13 year old girls automatically means i'm the left-wing anti-racist type

classic braindead 4chan argument, i hate dothraki as much as i hate niggers.

WILDLINGS are the true White people of Planetos. kidnapping grown women (who are guarded by other wildlings) to prove your strength and courage is based. raping a 13-year-old girl when she's helpless and surrounded by your Dothraki horde is nigger behavior
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Someone post that comment section of feminist lamenting that their uterus drive them to have rape fantasies.
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>>215398952
She consented to the wedding. She was of age. She loved her husband. I see no problem there.

13 is normal age for noble girls to get married.

Daenerys' mother had her first child at 14 and I don't remember anyone screaming rape.
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A) Martin was writing it with one hand, dude is a pervert

B) makes sense to me narrative wise because you can see it like real life abuse victims who become socially attached to their abuser. Even the way she sees him acting less violent as some romantic gesture.

Overall I find it weird in his books why exactly he insisted in making almost all the main characters like 13-15 years old or younger.

Yes, if you were 15 you were expected to do adult shit in medieval times, but this was not expected as a norm or a good thing. Boy Kings were notorious for being locked in gilded cages so adults could actually do the ruling.

Likewise, medieval people weren’t retards. They didn’t marry off their kids at 13 and tell them to get breeding because pregnancy was extremely dangerous and had a significant chance of killing tou. Much more so when you’re not finished developing. People knew this from experience. It’s why even in royal weddings to quite young brides you can notice there then being a big gap between the marriage and the actual pregnancy because they wouldn’t be fucking until they decided it was reasonably safe enough

Peasants marrying did so much more in their 20’s

Also every religion in GOT is so surface level and meaningless it’s sad
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>>215398952
>oh my maester why don't the barely human steppe savages don't have the same laws of consent as california
also Craster was impregnating his loli daughters all day every day and no wildling bothered to stop him
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>>215399580
>Also every religion in GOT is so surface level and meaningless it’s sad
what did you expect from a fedora-tipping subversive fat fuck?
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>>215393551
>brutally
you make it sound like a dickdrainers scene
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>>215395764
>It's not rape in the slightest
>>215395823
Huh? It sounds a lot like rape here anon
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>>215395823
>ride her as relentlessly as he rode his stallion
People read this fucking schlock? Good lord.
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>>215399580
In westeros noble women are not expected to have children at very young age, even when they are married or bethrowed. Like Myrcella for example. They usually start having children at 15 or 16. It follows medieval European customs.

However Dothraki are simple savage people. There are plenty of real tribes where girls are married at 13 and are expected to breed.
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>>215399828
Just because a woman doesn't enjoy sex it doesn't mean it's rape.

It's more like culture clash. Her problem was that he was too rough and she's not into it,even though that's the normal Dothraki way.
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>>215400137
>Just because a woman doesn't enjoy sex it doesn't mean it's rape.

wrong chud
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>>215396513
i really wish this was true
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>>215400400
Oh no, why does a medieval society not follow your zoomer morality laws that were invented 10 years ago?
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>>215393917
>barbs
Is this what circumcision took from us?
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>>215400137
>Just because a woman doesn't enjoy sex it doesn't mean it's rape.
Isn't that what happened to Aziz Ansari?
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>>215395962
Um, ackshually the plot they gave to Shansha happened to Jeyne Poole in the books and BEGGED to take on the dogs.
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>>215399980
He's the American Tolkien, show some respect.
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>>215393551
Reminder no woman has ever uttered a single complaint about this scene. I don't think they even realize they're supposed to because it's so accurate.
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>>215396534
I assume that's why Avatar was there
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>>215393551
What’s crazy is I don’t even remember any sjw backlash against the idea at the time lol
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>>215400056
I’m tired of pretending that’s not the best time window to get that done.
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>>215395199
Based Ignatius
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>>215395823
Drogo is a pedophile rapist, right?
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>>215398366
Drogo is a pedophile rapist, right? GRRM is a pedophile, right?
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>>215400682
There's nothing in this scene that's rape like whatsoever.
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>>215398366
>The show characters are adults.
>Emilia Clarke is 25.
>Joseph Jason Namakaeha Momoa is 32.
Bugger off to /lit/, fucking retard.
>>>/lit/
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I love how her tits and belly jiggle in that scene
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>>215401533
post it
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you can't rape your wife retard she's your property
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>>215393551
she was insane since S1E2 when Kal ElDrogo raped and mind broke her
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>>215395823
I'm a 39 year old married man and I honestly feel like this after I sex with my wife once a week. Bruised, broken, thinking of ending it all.
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>>215401552
You can’t trick me I’m the one who tricks other people to post that kind of shit
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>>215401622
just upload it to catbox and post the link here, genius
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>>215401622
Based trickster. Are people just a game to you?
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>>215401646
Patience, some other anon is just gonna throw an IP away and we will be able to enjoy ourselves. who cares? I’ve already seen it. You’ve already seen it. We don’t need to post it again.
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>>215401683
No, but I do have a manipulative tendencies just earlier I said “oh boy I’m so hungry and I have no food” so my friend just sent me 50 bucks. I knew he was gonna do that.
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>>215395823
basically he went in dry and jack hammered her like some kind of hentai protagonist. not rape, but also not very pleasent. in typical woman fashion she didnt say anything and just expected him to some how know this isnt what she was into.
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>>215402340
She didn’t learn “get me wet first” in Dothraki. Shame
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>>215402340
She’s not a woman; she’s a 13 year old girl who was forced to marry a grown man.
If Drogo was Jewish you’d be calling it what it is: rape.
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>>215396386
>Me in the shadows
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>>215393551
Sex changes your brain chemistry. Literally. Also he was in incredible shape, took the lives of other men, wore make-up and had long hair. I forget his name but he was basically set up to be a figure of lust for the female reader. He took her the way a woman viscerally respond to. If an incredibly physically fit and attractive woman sweetly seduced you into giving her your seed with every ounce of her femininity--with you knowing she could be with any man but that she specifically selectively chose you to marry and build a life and happiness with--you'd capitulate in the same face. Especially if her life was cut violently short not even a year into your relationship.
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>>215395747
That's the story of our history from the very beginning. Given to a man more powerful than others and then having large, powerful and destructive offspring that she uses to sow terror and her "influence". A woman in power with large predatory children at her beck and call to safeguard her is what happened with woman being given to nephilim and giving birth to giants.
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>>215402855
Its pretty wild people are so much more appalled by rape then murder. So many people including children are murdered in the show but the rape is the greatest evil.
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>>215403058
That's what happens when you give women seats of power. There's nothing wrong with respecting their opinion. There is everything wrong with allowing them to come up with policies and practices that affect more than just, like, general stuff like pregnancies and matters of the home and child rearing. Sin is the greatest evil. And a woman without the protective covering a man as her husband in this life will leave her blind to see that.
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>>215403087
What was his power anyways
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>>215395823
What had my prose
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>>215403567
Autism. Many such case in Westeros. House Tylenol must be held accountable!
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>>215395823
the simple fact that she is sold as a slave wife to a horse riding brutal warlord and used sexually is rape
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>>215403641
He also never asked what her pronouns are, and that's another rape.
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>>215395823
>He always took her from behind
That's pretty homo. Women have beautiful bits on their front. Why would you want to just pour your seed while staring at a back? May as well go lie with a man if that's how you view sex.
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>>215396513
>her
fake sansa yes. real sansa is throwing parties in the vale with littlefinger.
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>>215403803
because you can hold her by her flopping tits while catching an eye-full of her ass



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