we need more evil villains.
>>215408155God, I fucking hate nudoom
The whole sympathetic villain trend was started by people who either wanted to fuck the badboy or by people who didn't want to be called the badguy
>>215408155>Villain is evil because... BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST EVIL OK.I feel like we've come full circle Villains aren't mediums to understand the failings of man anymore, they're just strawman built on necessity much like peoples understanding of what constitutes evil these days.
>cartoons and video games Will you niggers ever grow up?
>>215408315Will you?
>>215408315Nobody ever grows up, they become children saddled with responsibilities
>>215408178Doom TDA was a huge flop and massive loss so it's coming to an end.
>>215408315consuming uninteractive slop as opposed to interactive slop doesn't make you more of an adult fyi
>>215408369It's not about interactivity, but about consuming shit for children.
>>215408155>>215408307It depends on the story. If you want the hero and villain to have some type of complex relationship with each other then a more sympathetic villain generally works better. But if the villains are just meant as the obstacle for the hero to overcome then they really don't need to be sympathetic at all. It really annoys me in modern movies when they give villains some sympathetic motive or backstory for no reason.
>>215408382That shit was never intended to be only for children, a portion of it was simply targeted at them to create new lifelong customers
>>215408155I don't think the problem is grey evil as much as grey good. I do agree progressive western storytelling assigns blame for bad on being oppressed. In progressive western storytelling good is not nor never was good but was in control, an oppressor.Oppressor masquerades as good but has a very dark sideOppressed has no options and good has been shit stomped out of them
>>215408178Doom 2016 was fun, and i can't remember the lore at all. just shoot demons and there was a big robot with a cool voice.
>>215408155Not quite. It's more that we need villains who are, y'know, actually fucking villainous instead of Dr Evil being played straight. I get that villains can be difficult to wrie effectively, but that shouldn't be an excuse for "he's bad because daddy didn't hug him enough." Also have them do villainous things like use gamer words, kill protagonist friends ad/or family members, etc. It's wild how (for example) Hazbiniggers get upset that a rapist in hell is, in fact, a rapist in hell and is shown raping people in hell.
>>215408425Entertainment for adult rarely even have villains. And going back to ancient Greeks the antagonists were often portrayed as better men than protagonists. Like for example Hector in Iliad. Evil villains is a shitty Hollywood trope for retarded Americans.
>>215408552The unskippable cutscenes were too long. The one in the robot's office was so boring and slow. Terrible acting and writing.
>>215408220If I was a proud soldier of Gondor I wouldn't hesitate to smash that orc childs skull in. Just look at the evil little freak.
>>215408382look out everyone, real adult media coming through
I do think one of the best ways to write a villain is to make them the hero of their own story. That just doesn't mean you have to make them sympathetic. But at least I want to understand what their perspective is. I don't relate to an islamist or a white supremacist but at least I comprehend their ideology, even if I think it's nonsense. Hell, even some schizophrenic serial killer does what he does for reasons, it's just that they're crazy reasons. Having your antagonist just be some mindless monster isn't interesting.
>>215408155>state a principle>admit there are actually many counter examples to that principleI hate modern "journalism"
>>215408710post more examples of Real Adult Media for Mature Adults with Developed Brains™ small smooth-brained video gayming children not allowed
>>215408220>or by people who didn't want to be called the badguyIf someone sees a character of pure evil intent with no desire but to kill, destroy or whatever and thinks>oh my god that is literally meThat is more telling about them than anything. And it and the previous one about needing the bad guy to be sympathetic because they wanna fuck him is pretty weak too. It wasnt too long ago that tumblr girls were all over say, Invader Zim, no shits given if he's sadistic and pure chaotic evil. Imagine being more emotionally weak than a tumblerina.
>>215408155we had enough of them irlabove 50% of American population (non white)
>>215408710>black tractor = underage cod playing kiddies>red chevrolet = based fast & furious watching gigachadsvidyasisses...we just keep losing...
>>215408155The retard who made that pic didn't the K-Pop movie, lol.
>>215408155So Rance live action?
>>215408178Same
>>215408307It's just rightoids projecting their politics into media.
>>215408220100% good heroes and 100% bad villains is bad writing.
>>215408315
>>215408155>demons in Frieren don't kill other demons>humans in Frieren kill other humansWhat is the meaning of this?
i don't mind some outright-objectively-evil villains in a Star Wars way. D&D currently has this weird 'issue' with "nooo you can't say the literal monsters are evil, that's offensive to the fictional species!!!" (fuck off they're forces of Chaos, who do bad things.)but tbqh for a more serious/grown-up drama i want a villain who's sympathetic or at least pathetic. that doesn't always mean they get redeemed but i'd at least like to understand where they're coming from.
>>215408950That was funny how you said the wrong car make on purpose.
>>215408155It's just Commie propaganda. They keep doing the Evil is Good actually, because they need the "both sides" or else they will lose their Eternal victimhood complex
>>215409038<50% good heroes and 100% bad villains.you look at corrupt politicians and you need to do mental gymnastics on how they could be less than 100% evil.
>>215409143Absolutely bitch slapped that stupid snake.
>>215408781I agree, but that's part of the problem with too many modern writers: they can't imagine the perspective of the villain. It's either some Freudian horseshit 'excuse' or something that if expanded on, could be interesting, but isn't. It's why that instead of giving them depth, modern writers resort to giving them setting-breaking foresight or superpowers to prop up their villain-card. The villain might as well be an animal or a force of nature for how much modern media puts them or their goals/perspectives/motivations under a microscope.The modern example I'd point to for this is Doctor Strange 2: What is the in-movie reason for why she is doing what she is doing, and why should I care? Yes, she wants a book to make her dreams a reality, but why? Why is she obsessed with those two boys? Why is she going to the lengths she is to get what she wants?
>>215408155But nuDoom is not a good example of this. It's yet another "yeah demons are bad but you know who the REAL bad guys are? Angels". It's actually the worst example of that hack trend. Why is it highlighted here?
when i was in primary school in the 90s, a tiny bit of our World War II education was about how the Nazis were actually humans who did terrible things. and hell, the British did some bad things (which my granddad always agreed with).i don't think it was "over-correcting" or anything. i just think that was correct. but now we're these black-and-white-minded babies: it's always RIGHT to kill Nazis, innit!
>>215408220That may be how it started, but honestly from what I've observed this trend seems to have attracted and now is being perpetuated by people with a somewhat less benign agenda than simply subverting narrative tropes or engaging in power-fantasies of being a "bad guy": I've noticed a trend among modern Hollywood Writers were they seem to genuinely think along the lines of a sort of inverted morality, i.e. genuinely believing that "good is ACTUALLY evil and evil is ACTUALLY good". Or sometimes they'll instead present this as "'good' and 'evil' don't ACTUALLY exist, it's all just perspective, bro!"To me the whole thing just kind of smacks of Marxism at best, or seems to be echoing age-old Luciferian perspectives on morality at worst.
>>215408155Nuanced villains and gray morality are not a product of modern storytelling.These types of stories have always existed alongside stories with black and white morality.Also, how the fuck does everyone keep putting blinders on to the fact that the main character of K-Pop demon hunters is half-demon and has to learn to accept her demon half before she can succeed? The triumphant victory song at the climax is literally about how being broken is beautiful, because trying to be perfect nearly destroyed them all.
>>215409221>Subverting expectations in a fucking Doom gameRemind me again why people hate Doom 3?...
>>215409221I'm curious, when does this become a thing? Apparently according to google they're hinted at as early as Doom '16? I figured it was a Doom Eternal only, or even Doom Eternal DLC thing.But also apparently throughout the whole canon they're also not actually explicitly divine, they just believe themselves to be such?
>>215408307>Villain is evil because... BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST EVIL OK.How is this NOT realistic or true-to-life?Explain the morally complex, logical and sympathetic reasons as to why Ted Bundy had to brutally rape & murder 30 random, innocent women across seven States. What does Ted Bundy stabbing women to death so he can come back later and fuck their corpses teach us about "the failings of man"? What systemic failings in Society backed poor Ted Bundy into a corner and essentially forced him to go out and do the things he did?
>>215408315>videogames are for...LE CHILDREN!Hey, Grandpa. Can you hear me all the way back there in the 1970's?
>>215408155agreed, game of thrones did real damage
>>215408598>Evil villains is a shitty Hollywood trope for retarded Americans.Not just the levels of obsession with america, but even the tenuousness of the arguments used to complain about America, grow more retarded with you third-worlders every single day.
>>215408849>>215408382i feel like you faggots are just pissed that videogames overtook movies in cultural importance and as a business, its ok dude movies will continue to exist.
>>215409405It's not retarded. Miyazaki said the same and he was right.
>>215409418>some retard pedo boomer said thing!woah cool and i say a different thing now what?! is the sky now falling? fucking retards and their appeal to authority jesus christ
>>215409075Being a hive-mind does not inherently make a species superior.
>>215409359psychopaths are as close as they get, they're interesting in a novel way, but also kind of boring."i torture small animals""why? what led to that? what's your motivation?""just like doing it. i lack the empathy most humans have, i'm just worried about consequences at most."snore.
>>215409405After a century of spreading it's low IQ culture people are waking up to what the US actually is.
>>215408155what if i think the villain is sexy?
>>215409405nah he's right. pop culture is pretty America-centric, that's just the way it's gone. judging the actual content of the flicks though, that's fair game (for me it's 90s/00s American comedies set in the big city).
>>215409143>you look at corrupt politicians and you need to do mental gymnastics on how they could be less than 100% evilThat would entirely depend on what specifically you mean by "corrupt". That's kind of a wide umbrella of possible behavior.Some agenda driven judge or DA literally putting dangerous rapists and murderers back on the street so they can prey upon more law-abiding citizens, yeah, that's pretty "evil" in the truest sense. But if we're talking about some political schmuck skimming a little bit off the government budget over a long period of time in order to embezzle a harder to notice but still desirable sum of money for himself...that's obviously not good, and he's a thieving parasite that is technically stealing from his own citizens. But that qualifying as "evil"? Meh, maybe, but it seems to kind of dilute the meaning of the word at least a little bit.
>>215409221Demons ARE Angels. Or at least all the original ones were. They are just corrupted, I.E. "Fallen".At least that's how Christian Theology and Cosmology works. I can't speak for whatever they put in the newest DOOM games.
>>215409044the faggiest comeback
>>215408155
>>215409265>the British did some bad things (which my granddad always agreed with).He always agreed that "yes, they were bad things to do"?Or he always agreed with the questionable actions themselves, I.E. he thought they were justified and disagreed that they were "bad things to do"?
>>215409339The visually sterile, repetitive, dull-colored environments and the resulting impact that had on overall level-design & gameplay enjoyability.I honestly think there's a lot of things that Doom 3 did correctly, especially for the time it came out. But it's biggest problem was the fact that it was an FPS still trying to learn from the original Half-Life at a time when Half-Life 2 was right on the verge of coming out.
>>215408155>>215408220>jews write a hero>they are pozzed and evil>jews write a villain >they are goodliterally checks out
>>215409573the former. he was just a grumpy old miner/socialist, did the right thing fighting for Britain but was also permanently pissed off at the Tories (including Winston Churchill). he didn't have any illusions that Dresden was based, or anything.miss you granddad ;_;
>>215409619Name some examples.
>>215409075>>demons in Frieren don't kill other demonsI think its said or heavily implied that since the demons can detect each others power levels and they are all cowards they all either avoid each other or fall into a hierarchy dictated entirely by their power levels
>>215409631Rey killing her grandfather and Yoda burning books being portrayed positively off the top of my head.
Can't believe you FUCKTARDS are replying to this ENGAGEMENT BAIT SHIT
>>215408155they have no problem making the villains evil, as long as the villains are white males
K-Pop hunters is trash, Doom Eternal is trash, Freiren is trash
>>215409312>smacks of Marxism at bestExactly what this all is.
>>215409631Cruellathe Dalmatians were literally the antagonists and kill her mother in the film
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>>215409631orcs from rings of power
>>215409648>stop talking about thing i no likego cry about it on reddit faggot
Don't know what the other shit is but Doom isn't exactly the franchise for moral complexities
>>215409655this
>>215409648this is why message boards need moderation and rules. and one of those rules SHOULD be "no Twitter/Reddit screencaps".
>>215409664That's something different. It's a new trend in remakes when the old villain is portrayed as the good guy. >>215409662It has nothing to do with Marxism. Marxism is pretty black and white with working class being good and upper classed being evil.
>>215409690sorry but I feel like you just moved the goalposts a mile awayand marxism is pretty black and white about the global ruling 1% being good and all powerful and the rest of everyone being poor, malnourished slave goys
>>215409690>Marxism is pretty black and white with working class being good and upper classed being evil.nah they're kind of cunts about the not-right-types of working-class people.>hehe these lumpenproletariat will never be Class Conscious like we are - tehehe we're smarter than them!fuck off Marxists.
all the retards needing unneeded and bullshit "complexity" to jerk themselves of in their delusions of intellect are in fact low iq retard midwits who remind me of this pic.
>>215409655>>215409683Except that doesn't apply to any of the examples in the OP.
>>215408220started and perpetuated by a certain chosen tribe of small hat wearers who delight in tearing down all notions of good, beauty and justice
>>215409706None of this is true and I'm not even Marxist or pro-Marxism.
>>215409747Then you’re misinformed lol
Now the Godtards are cracking on about marxism>HURRRR THE BIBBLE MAKES ME SMART
>>215409767holy yikes the trannykike reveals himself lmfao, smells like the severed foreskins of children in here suddenly lol >but it’s our religion!you should all be tried and imprisoned for child abuse and mutilation and general crimes against humanity
>>215409730That's how the genre started. In all three Romero movies the heroes fail because of other humans, not because of zombies.
>>215408328It's obviously written by some anime/vidya tranny.
>>215409823who asked?
>>215409783i'm going to assume that poster is an atheist, anon. not everything is the Jews, calm down.
>>215409730>replying to people that are long gone and will never read it>you will also be long gone when someone else reads itis there a name for this besides graffiti or bathroom stall writing?
>>215409823a shame they didn't keep the original ending of Dawn of the Dead.i used to think the ending of Night of the Living Dead was pretty stupid (don't like endings where it's some external group, out of their control/the events so far) but it's grown on me.
>>215409951>is there a name for thisyeah. culture.
>>2154099514chan
>>215409026Braindead. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4cv659HLRUg&t=12s
>>215409951you ever read the graffiti from Pompeii, anon?https://archive.is/2fBh7(archive link, site is dead)
>>215408155So stupid. Everyone on both sides of the aisle of this issue failed lit. A story's antagonist is a vehicle of the narrative thst drives the conflict. There isn't some preferential between good vs evil stories or gray morality stories, what works best for the story is on a case by case basis.
>>215408220Give her a bath, fresh dressing, a little makeup and she can pass in the "fuckable alien" category.
>>215409631any WWII movie where the guys who dropped two nukes on cities of children are portrayed as good or in the right
>>215408155Evil as a concept today still stems from ressentiment and slave morality which is closely tied with christanity, but christanity is getting less popular, and so does the concept of evil.Nietzsche predicted this. Evil is just that which frustrates the slave. Masters aren't frustrated by anyone and so they have no use for the concept. The rentoid passionately hates the landlord for denying him the autonomy the landlord enjoys, while the landlord has no strong feelings for the rentoid, just simply doesn't care. The rentoid needs the concept of evil to protect his ego, he needs to make his weakness into a virtue, the landlord doesn't.
>>215408687That's the wife.The child is the bundled thing they're holding.
>>215408155>>215408220Fucking retards, comic books had likeable and grey villains as early as Magneto and Spider-Man’s rogues gallery.Rewatch the Raimi movies. All the villains are tragic and grey. They came out twenty years ago.Likewise, old literature already had grey villains like Saruman, who was manipulated by the Ring and tried to use it against Sauron before going insane, or Denethor, who lost his mind from the palantír and the death of his wife.Other examples of grey villains include Captain Ahab from Moby-Dick (he’s not evil, just autistic with ADHD and hyperfixation) and Macbeth from Macbeth (a war hero who was corrupted by power).FFACT: audiences prefer grey villains. That’s why Spider-Man is a billion-dollar franchise.No one ever lists Sauron or anyone who is purely evil as a great villain.
>>215410420Retard, Warcraft 3 and Elder Scrolls: Oblivion had likeable orcs, and they came out over 20 years ago. Tolkien was already struggling with orcs too, even writing a dialogue between orcs who were dreaming of a normal life.The only media with succubi that I can think of is The Witcher, and it was never black and white.I can’t think of any media with likeable demons. Devil May Cry and Doom both have purely evil demons. Supernatural (the TV series) also only had evil demons.
>>215410420Also, Warhammer: Total War.Orcs – violent retards.Succubi and demons – evil.Priests of order nations – mostly good.
>>215409680Doom has more story than most modern shooters.
>>215410541Morrowind did shades-of-grey races/species/cultures really well, while keeping them clearly orcs or wood elves or whatever.but i really don't want D&D nerds to try to recreate that every time. it just gets tedious.
>>215408365>>215408178>>215409002/v/ everyone knows your hatred for nuDoom is because you "predicted" Eternal would flop, it didn't and you always throw several year long temper tantrums when you are proven wrong.Don't pretend its because you have some kind of superior taste when you fags slurp up utter trash like Palworld, Marvel Rivams or tranny non-games like Deltarune.
>>215410560>Priests of order nations – mostly good.lorelet take Sigmarites in Fantasy wanted to genocide Bretonmia for centuries and only thing that is stopping them is the threat of chaos and orcs coming in when they are busy(this actually happened two time when Empire tried tried to genocide Bretonnia). There are actually normal nations in Fantasy but most of them are rotten and as evil as the chaos forces that invade them.
>>215410611Doom TDA is an historic financial failure.
>>215410801But you dont care about TDA, you still have daily threads seething specifically about Eternal, because the whole thing is that you are throwing a childish temper tantrum over being proven wrong.One of the many reasons why every board laughs at you, /v/, you are all autistic and low IQ manchildren.
>>215410644the 'lore' of both Warhammers are infamously inconsistent. One book might describe Space Marines as evil as Chaos or Orks, but then in another story, two marines without helmets will be as pure as Tolkiens heroes
>>215409075>demons in Frieren don't kill other demonsWhy would they? Their food are humans, and there are plenty of those around.
>>215410541>The only media with succubi that I can think of is The Witcher, and it was never black and white.Succubi aren't even demons in that setting.
>>215410492Motivations for becoming evil =/= Grey villain. Satan had reasons for becoming evil. Michael Myers had reasons for becoming evil. Hitler had many reasons for doing what he did.
>>215410428>on cities of childrenYou need to work on your English, Yamato-kun.
Villains can be evil and sympathetic at the same time
>>215409512incapable of imagining third- or even second-order-consequences award
>>215410430Yeah I don't know about that fruity frog sometimes..
>>215409512>he's a thieving parasite that is technically stealing from his own citizens. But that qualifying as "evil"?the highest levels of government corruption influence a country's poverty level. at worst, these result in people starving to death. so yes, that qualifies as evil.you speak as if stealing is not part of the 10 commandments.then again, so is murder. and the catholic church did a lot of killing in the name of God. hypocrites burn in hell too, i guess.
>>215408155Not even fucking Stalin, Mao, and Hitler saw a villian when they looked into a mirror, and instead saw themselves as defenders against the percieved evil of others, and heroes because of it. They engage in gaslighting so they can believe that the people they did bad things to deserved it because of various reasons. And it reflects now when you see certain political factions assigning slanderous names to others so they can justify violence. That's the way it is. Villains are always evil, but they don't see themselves that way, and see the other side as evil. That's why it comes down to the history books being written by the winners of our wars.
>>215408220It was created by jews. Subverting people's long held beliefs in order to destabilize and manipulate is a Jewish hobby.
>>215410492I would've stuck magneto in a gas chamber myself.Why would anybody side with a guy that whines about the holocaust when he wants to holocaust normal humans?Oh wait, jews whine about it all the time as they bomb and starve Palestine right in front of the world.
>>215408155I want to kill anyone who genuinely uses the word ontological
>>215411254>then again, so is murder. and the catholic church did a lot of killing in the name of God.Murder is unlawful killing, killing in the name of god doesn't count as murder. Really you can justify theft this way too, taking that which rightfully belongs to god isn't theft. Christanity does the exact same thing all authority does - it reframes its own actions as distinctly different that that of individuals. Oldest trick in the book and yet people keep falling for it. It's not theft when the government does it, it's taxes. It's not violence when the government does it, it's upholding the law, etc.
>>215408315You're on 4chan same as us
>>215411451Jews are hypocrites that's why it's idiotic to allow them to take root in any country.
>>215408155The left has gone so far down the rabbit hole of justifying evil that they now openly worship it. I'm kind of surprised that they don't support Israel over Gaza. Then again they never call out the religion of the people carrying out the atrocities.
>>215411256But demons are not people, they are an abstraction of the evil in the hearts of people. They are the atrocities people can commit in the name of justice.
>>215409038no its not which is why when disney did it it was a massive success everywhere, and everybody remembers the og villains and nobody the newfags nudisney villains
>>215408155A villain is anyone I disagree with, and anyone I disagree with is evil because I'm on the right side of herstory.
>>215409038>the bible is bad writingIf the bible, the book with more sold copies that's 2000 years old, isn't good writing, then please never approach writing againThat's like saying Jumanji isn't a good movie. May as well never watch any movies ever again
>>215409026you are the villain irl and now that leftards control media you are just making yourself sympathetic. And normal people rejects it because it's unbelievable
>>215409407games crashed and burned as a media before even reaching maturity.it's one of those things, like comicbooks, that don't work when the yare mainstream
>>215408220Alien Romulus came out last year and had the Aliens be completely, unambiguously evil sadists with zero redeeming qualities.
>>215409496pic unrelated, obviously
>>215408155>nuDoom >ugly westernfriendly meme tranime>korean fotm slopWOOOW
>>215409077gray shit isn't mature/grown up.It's teenage shit.People can be evil even if you get to know where they come from
>>215408307I think a huge issue is that "pure evil" gets taken only as crazy wanton psycho like the joker, when there's a lot more wiggle room for how an irredeemable villain can act
>>215409554>black people are the real villainsWhat the fuck is this racist ass comic?
>>215410037Good video
>>215409554is this the same artist that did that hot sauce comic?
>>215410492You don't even know what a grey villain is, retard
>>215410292Thank you.
>>215409075It's a shit anime, astroturfed because the protag is tumblr-ugly
>>215408178>Doom guy>Doom slayerSoul vs soulless
>>215411452what word would you prefer instead?
>>215410995You fucking American dog you have no principles other than pure savagery and cuckoldry may you get replaced and undone by failures of liberalism
>>215411256>StalinBased, a hero>MaoCringe>HitlerBased, a heroNone of the people you listed aside from Mao can be considered villains objectively. They’re all heroes and what happened between Hitler and Stalin was tragic. They should’ve been partners in arms. They don’t view themselves as villains because they’re not. Only that obese faggot Mao lacked any self awareness.
>>215409221>but angels are the bad guysThe most evilest of evil incarnate Lucifer the devil was an angel. Jack ass.
>>215408178I liked Doom 2016 a lot, definitely closer to what I wanted from Doom than Doom 3 when that came out (though I came to love that too). Never played the second one because I heard it was rock paper scissors bullshit, and the 3rd one looked just fucking awful.
>>215412438maybe. in my own life i've had issues with addiction so i've met plenty of people who've done harmful, criminal shit.you can view the actions as evil, but i don't think many people ARE evil, some Skeletor thing, y'know?
>>215409690He doesn't mean they are Marxist in a sense of moral ambiguity, they are Marxist works because they are subversive. Subversion is the primary reason for the rise in this sort of practice, along with most other changes not welcomed by the community. The purpose of Marxism is to take the traditional values of a host country and subvert them so as to devalue them. Once the pillars of a culture have been eroded the base has been laid for a revolution of the proletariat against the bourgeoise. This is the general pattern of any nation that has been infested by Marxism
>>215410492>>215411451That whole x men mutant allegory shit makes no fucking sense when there’s no reason a regular citizen should be more afraid of wolverine than they are of hulk. But no, smug Redditors will give shitty answers like this as if they made a brillaint point.
>>215412761Keyword: "was". A fallen angel is completely different, trying to conflate them with angels is retarded. This is just yet another subversive piece of shit media that tries to say "huhuhu wut if angels were actually just as bad as demons bruh huhuhu *hits bong*">>215409546>>215409355
>>2154126891. Not American. Not even the same continent.2. Not their fault you yellow subhumans don't understand the word "surrender" and would rather let your entire population be slaughtered.
>>215408220its pretty stupid to put that little alien there like the other motherfucker is its mom, Aliens are not mammals, they are more like insects, they born to do a specific function, that little evil nigga being there like its innocent its prehaps the most retarded shit i've ever seen, Aliens are fucking evil.
>>2154081782016 was ok everyone dicksucked doom 3 I thought it was awful until I played it in VR and even then it was mediocre Eternarse and dark anus suck cock
>>215412959>>215412761I asked an actual exorcist about this topic, and his answers amounted to "whatever evil spirits you encounter, they will always lie and deceive, so trying to identity their exact nature is pointless."
>>215409143Cats are the ultimate killing machine. No wonder they are genociding half the animals on this planet
>>215408155The problem is mostly the opposite. It's not that there are good or grey villains, it's that the evil subhumans are in control of society, and portray themselves as good, and the real life good people as allegories for evil.They're not even trying to be subtle about it.The japs have a different problem, in that everything is just effeminate, immature and gay, and morality never goes deeper than the simplistic ideas that you'd teach to an elementary schooler, or an insecure teenage girl.
>>215412927Even as someone who isn’t racist, I get why you guys hate other races even if it is a broad sweeping generalization without nuance.>Indians have gained a reputation for scamming and beinf unhygienic while their government doesn’t give a fuck>Blacks are overrepresented in crime>Many of the people who control the largest global superpower are indeed Jewish and make shitty decisions that affect the rest of the populationAnd so on and so on. Mutants getting hate but not mutates is just dumb plot induced stupidity.
>>215412906a character with a human side that make evil things is an evil villain, anon. He qualifies as evil and villaing because his actions are evil
>>215408220What, are you fucking retarded? It's all anti-western, anti-white, anti-male ideology. In Alien, it's the self-inserted loser characters who become powerful, so they can humiliate and get back at the the evil, white capitalistic corporations.In the LOTR TV show, it's about subverting Tolkien's ideas about race, gender, western society, heroism, good and evil, and his portrayal of orks (as negroes). He's always criticized be leftists for supposedly putting western society first and only having white male heroes, so they shove in female action heroes, negro elves, evil white men and victimized orcs.
>>215413027this> never goes deeper than the simplistic ideas that you'd teach to an elementary schooler, or an insecure teenage girl.to be fair we are exposed to jap entertainment made for elementary schoolers and teens. Are we sure the rest of their output is on the same level?
>>215413042Just by acknowledging that means you're racist in the eyes of 90% of society, dumbass.That's also what pisses most "racists" off, and what gives them actual racist attitudes. It's not hatred, it's pointing out reality, and then being called a bigot.
>>215413131Correct. The only purpose is to subvert and decay traditional moral values held in western nations to facilitate a revolution. That is the entire point of leftist subversion. It is so heavily-ingrained into leftist ideology that many of them do it subconsciously. I know that when I was a major bleeding heart liberal in college I fully believed I was simply being empathetic, critical, etc. while always viewing western idealisms under an impossible microscope. It's really quite remarkable. I can see why so many nations have become embroiled by Marxist decay over the decades. It is very difficult to defend against in a free society based on discussion, because that is where it most easily thrives.
>>215408155Cause most of the time the "heroes" are spineless fuckwads and everyone likes someone with conviction a lot more than some wet noodle.
>>215408347Trvth Nvke
>>215413106just seems a bit comic-book-y to me. even Christians can withhold some gut judgement, teach forgiveness, all that lovely stuff (not sure about other religions).i mean evil as we see it in fairytales and so on. closest IRL would be, what, a sadistic psychopath? whether it's ingeniously planned, or some autistic rage? i suppose the former is more evil, but i think MOST cases of "evil" are preventable (school shooters and so on, they ENDED UP at that point).
>>215410541Cole from the Charmed TV series was a likeable demon from an "old" piece of media.
>>215408710kino...
>>215413208Not necessarily. Truth is, these facts aren’t racist in of themselves. What is racist is going full 1488 out of spite towards others because you get called one instead of trying to understand why these are truths to begin with.
>>215410560>any faction in warhammer>mostly goodPick one
>>215408347Correct.
>>215413551>trying to understand why these are truths to begin with.Once you understand the "why" the solution becomes obvious. You're just a racist that hasn't followed the logic to the only possible ending.
>>215413619>the ending I see is the only possible endingNTA but fucking retard
>>215412959An angel was an angel when it committed whatever evil that expelled it from heaven. Angels can do not only wrong but evil. There was nothing subversive about it if you knew anything at all about religion.
>>215413619>Once you understand the "why" the solution becomes obvious. You're just a racist that hasn't followed the logic to the only possible ending.Not really. Even left wingers agree with the premises. It’s just your framing is more primitive and short sighted. The answer to the “why” is more about historical, structural, or material conditions than it is blaming them for being their race.
>>215413791You're really going to convince me I'm wrong by not giving me an actionable alternative solution.You're brown>>215413811>The answer to the “why” is more about historical, structural, or material conditions than it is blaming them for being their race.Confidently wrong and parroting an opinion shared by people who do not understand biology but must make excuses for their pets.
>>215408155The main trait of the villains of Friren is that they will use your own kindness and morals as a way to destroy you.I think that's a powerful thing to make people understand in this age of suicidal empathy.
>>215413619>Once you understand the "why" the solution becomes obviousIt's "obvious" because it's midwit shit that attempts to make something extremely complex very simple
>>215413871You're actually trying to make something very simple more complex than it is when you empathize with animals that do not shre this capacity.
>>215413891Nothing in life is that simple anon
>>215413908It's incredibly simple, it's like any other form of animal rearing, when the animal has undesirable traits you cull that line. Really, it's just people trying to over complicate a very simple matter that would have been solved ages ago if it weren't for the misplaced empathy of the masses.
>>215413947Sounds good, I find your lack of complex reasoning ability an undesirable trait, so looks like you're up!
>>215413963Amusing, and predictable. Your protests are incredibly weak and I'd suggest you work on your stance a bit before trying to argue about this matter in the future. Whites of course are not above my culling, many of them are also undesirables.
>>215413862If you view them as pets, why does being called a bigot bother you? >>215413208Nothing is really stopping you from (you) farming by posting an image of a Chad and saying “yes.” Hell you’ll get rewarded from people here.
>>215413862>You're really going to convince meI wasn't trying to, no point arguing with or trying to convince retards.
>>215413947>very simple matter that would have been solved ages agoplease share in detail how you would solve it
>>215414017You don't have the capacity to convince anyone I'd wager.>>215414014You seem to be confused.>>215414020You know how.
>all these comments in the comments sections from catholic spics posting about rip and tear and christ is kingew
>>215414056>You know how.say it
>>215408178We know /v/, too much gameplay for you, stick to discussing the 5 billion genders of Deltarune characters.
>>215413862> Confidently wrong and parroting an opinion shared by people who do not understand biology but must make excuses for their petsIf we’re really going down the master race route I think you should bow before your jewish masters who have, in your own worldview, conquered everything.
>>215414085Well, ideally we'd engineer something that would wipe that out quick and clean, but sterilizing them all would be a worthwhile goal too. If I could kill them all single handily I'd do it for the greater good despite the great cost to myself since it'd eat the rest of my lifetime and then some. I'm just selfless like that.
>>215408155WE MUST BE BETTER DEMON SLAYERS
>>215408155If we just start just defining things as evil and killing them for it, we might actually fix our societies. Shitty, moral relativist entertainment media is functioning as intended. Don't forget to vote!
>>215414127>If we’re really going down the master race route I think you should bow before your jewish masters who haveWay ahead of you.I am Jewish, lol.
>>215408155>villain has sympathetic origins>still a psychotic nutjob that commits genocide>then gets redeemed anywayI'd like someone do this, you basically make everyone mad with this.
>>215409038>he says while posting makima
>>215414157https://youtu.be/NqimpywsfDU
>>215414129Thanks for not being too much of a pussy to spell it out, first of all, I do appreciate that.Most people, myself included, find your desire to use mass murder as a tool to solve social problems much more abhorrent and monstrous than any of the racial issues facing us today.
>>215414157FREE PALESTINE
>>215414056>You don't have the capacity to convince anyone I'd wager.From the looks of the replies to your posts, that too is true to you. Which is to be expected of a retard's posts.
>>215414190>Most people, myself included, find your desire to use mass murder as a tool to solve social problems much more abhorrent and monstrous than any of the racial issues facing us today.It's misplaced empathy as I said, you lot had the opportunity and you hesitated because you saw yourself in the lesser races and you will be destroyed because of this hesitation since they will not do the same for you.
>>215414212Why? They are muslims and have brown skin, killing them is an act of mercy on the world.
>>215414214Basic and boring, stop replying anytime halfwit. >>215414212Based
>>2154142294chan is full of third worlders, that's why.In a war between jews and muslims the only tragedy is if it ends.
I think in general there is the Joker problem where the villain is too entertaining and marketable so they don't want to kill them off. Female villains also get a pass often because guys are simps. Evil for the sake of evil villains also often just aren't entertaining or interesting. It's like how in most monster movies there often has to be a human/humanoid villain to supplement the monsters.
>>215414216>It's misplaced empathy as I said, you lot had the opportunity and you hesitated because you saw yourself in the lesser races and you will be destroyed because of this hesitation since they will not do the same for you.Anon, once you create the situation where your mass murder is actually practically possible and palatable to the public as you wish, where does it stop? I think most people on this website would qualify in at least one person's idea of an undesirable social class, don't you see the problem with this kind of thinking?
>>215408155True evil is newniggers like you who spam twitter posts here and all the newniggers that keep bumping the threads.
>>215414059Right? I don’t mind religion but it’s very faggy to see these Reddit tier comments in DOOM comment sections that say “dude!! DOOM is a HARDCORE Christian game!!”Leave the Christ is Kang circlejerking to groyper circles, don’t drag that CHRIST IS KANG bullshit into here. You’re not making Catholicism any better, you’re making DOOM worse.
>>2154081782016 was okay but still didn't bother finishing it. Did not understand the over hyping of it. On a sale, worth a few hours.
>>215414352If Christianity's take on evil was more like Doom's people would like it way more, none of this other cheek bs.Its why people like the Knights Templar.
>>215414321A lot of idiots operate under the assumption that bad things won't happen to them.
>>215410492>as early as MagnetoI guess you never read the early X-men comics huhSeems like you're talking about antagonists otherwise, which aren't necessarily villains.
>>215408315What would you rather show your family/colleague if you were worried about them thinking you're childish? You posting on 4chan and showing them the website or you playing Doom the video game?
>>215414261kek>I think most people on this website would qualify in at least one person's idea of an undesirable social class, don't you see the problem with this kind of thinking?You're correct of course, but as long as it's me deciding where it stops I'll see it done right. I am certainly not infallible, but I have defined goals in mind already that would not need expansion. Of course we're running into idealism instead of realism here, but I'd take a purge that gets rid of the problem and a little bit extra over letting the problem keep growing.>>215414389I'd die for this, so "bad things" happening to me don't really matter if the goal is met.
>>215414412For (you) >>215414321I'm not the typical goyim hater, perhaps I've got misplaced empathy in you lot as well, but I'd like to see the the best goy win.
>>215414412>You're correct of course, but as long as it's me deciding where it stops I'll see it done right.Spoiler: it's not going to be you.
>>215410033>dub dubswait a minute...
>>215414458A shame, but like I said, I'll take anything that cuts out the disease even if we lose some good people for it.
>>215414478Enough people thinking like that is dangerous and naive. Its just opening your cause up to being hijacked if most of the people pushing can't even see it through.
>>215408155The elephant in the room is that actors don't want to play completely unsympathetic villains anymore, because general audiences today (AKA zoomers) are retards who can't distinguish between fiction and reality. They see out-of-context clips of a well-known actor playing a villainous character and doing something villainous, then in their minds they think the actor himself is actually endorsing that behavior. Remember how zoomers shit their pants over that one scene from "The Beguiled" from 1971 where Clint Eastwood's character kissed a 12-year-old girl? It's like the concept of "acting" itself is completely lost on them.
>>215414478I think it's pointless on a basic level to spend any time thinking about a solution that's just not possible on a political or practical level, even if you can get past the absolute moral abhorrence of it.
>>215408220>sympathetic villainWas that alien supposed to be sympathetic? I only saw a murdermachine.
>>215408155What I hate is when the bad guy is clearly wrong and stupid but you can feel that the writers want you to say "uh he's got a point". And they do that by making the hero retarded and uncharismatic, so when the bad guy exposes his motivation, the hero doesn't know what to say so he's like "hu no, that's not our way" instead of actually explaining why he's wrong, Black Panther is a good example of that.If they make another X Men movie, you can be sure that when Magneto explains that mutants should dominate humans because humans are racists, Xavier will be like "uuuh"
>>215414558>>215414611There is no cause, Whites are thoroughly domesticated and will die with a whimper. This has been idealistic speech from the start, you lot have already lost and you still can't realize it. You go on about what the moral thing to do would be while you suffocate due to the naivety of these laughable principles. You think humans are on average as logical and good willed as you are but you are wildly mistaken. >not possible on a politicalA rigged game that's worth even less discussion as it stands.
>the actual jew itt who would still be applauding the general renewed racial consciousness while he was being pushed into the chamberslmao
>>215414715Jews will remain at the top forever so I'm not worried. I like some goyim, but you guys aren't fit to be puppet masters. I wish the kikes at the top weren't so much eviler than me though, what's being done to these people is disgusting.
>>215408315Look at that responsible and mature adult posting on 4chan
>>215409038Not being realistic =/= bad writing. It depends on the intent of the story and on the style of the writer. Both can be fantastic if handled correctly.Like Tolkien for example. The problem is that people now only want to write "subversion" and "realism". Once your world or story starts to lean too much on realism rather than style or intent, it fails. I like Game of Thrones, but George is a retard for asking about "Gondor's tax policy".
>>215414753No one is a puppet for anyone to master.
>>215414805You keep telling yourself that.
>>215414815I shall. Have a good day.
>>215414837Kol tuv
>>215414275With Joker anaother problem is the constant rising of the stakes. Putting pulpy gangsters in a Jail makes some sencePutting terrorists who develop gas which kills it's victims by making them laugh to death not so much.Also >>215408155Current culture seems to be fixated on absolutes look at you tube and you will see these clickbaity titles.Villans either have to be constantly sympathetic or evil to the point of parody.Same as Heroes either hypocritical cunts or Uwu good bois or whatever.Someone like Elric of Melnibone couldn't be made today. Someone who is honest with himself and understands what he has donehttps://youtu.be/yGkWohEMcJQ?si=mgaSmLpHOmHx14vs
>>215414238>Basic and boringYet clearly true.
>>215414900Kid thinks he's part of the adult conversation, cute!
>>215408315Do you know where you are?
>>215414919>adult conversation>4chanMeds, now.
>>215414753>Jews will remain at the top foreverIm sure plenty said such during nazi germany's rise too.
>>215414967Who do you think is responsible for that rise?>>215414960Another thing you're incapable of, not surprising.
>>215414960Madoka is a deconstruction of the magical girl genre.
>>215414967> Im sure plenty said such during nazi germany's rise too.Well were they wrong? It lead to Haavara agreement and the creation of Israel. Even heydrich liked Zionism. You people like to talk about what a failed ideology communism is, but then act like as if anti semitism for the 110th time will work.
I like how anime is literally known for having villains with tragic backstories, but today dumbfucks associate it with some epic black and white morality because of one or two shows. It's insane how dumber the internet got thanks to the culture war.
My son is a real villain.
>>215409359He had unusual sexual fetishes, murder was a means to an end. He was also pissed about his lack of status, exemplified by the woman who broke up with him in college for "not being ambitious enough" or being a pushover. Bitter over the fact he was an illegitimate child and had that hanging over his head his whole life, wanted to be someone important in politics or something but came from an extremely modest background.
>>215408155even "pure evil" villains like Dio Brando have reasons for what they do.
>moral ambiguity is bad actuallyThis is such a nice showcase of how immature and dumb audiences are getting. People don't see themselves as villains. Hitler wasn't running around twirling his moustache while laughing about how the good guys wouldn't be able to stop him>inb4 neonazi kvetchingJeff Bezos isn't sitting in his mansion trying to figure out how to make orphanages more miserable.Everyone is the hero of their own story. But manchildren audiences are getting butthurt because they can't deal with bad people not being 100% bad.>b-but he loved his family so he can't be that bad? But then why is he sending people to kill the protagonist? Is the protagonist bad?Like they can only deal with black or white so you get all this crying and seething. Grow the fuck up
>>215415118Death Note is told from the villain's perspective, and it's kino. i actually hate 'backstory'.
>>215408155Just make them straight white males. They are always evil by default.
>>215414753very definition of a god complexor falseflaggingeither way, the chances of you rueing the day you posted this drivel are climbing by the minutebecause people saying this kind of shit (in earnest or not) are dreck, schmutz, cretins, guys at the very low end of the foodchain, in the overwhelming number of casesand those are the ones that feel the jackboot first, always. doesn't matter their creed or ethnicity
>>215409418Imagine unironically using that out of touch communist hack who literally spent his entire life making cartoons as a mark of authority on anything.
>>215415941Well, he was right. Japanese prefer moral ambiguity, Americans when everything is black and white.
>>215408687based
>a story MUST have a character who is the antagonist and they MUST be evvvvviilll because I never developed past ten years old mentally!man v man stories are objectively the most boring.
>thread about lack of truly evil villains in media>jew barges in hellbent on defending genocide as the one and true final solution(ironic)Truly life is stranger than fiction
>>215409038>CSMtranny has zero self-awarenessSasuga
>>215415910>either way, the chances of you rueing the day you posted this drivel are climbing by the minuteYou're a cuck that probably celebrates the censored police state that the UK gas become.
>>215414867>liberals import foreigners for 60 years>Suddenly can't be hopeful for the future
>>215408155The problem is that in modern pop culture, something is only "evil" if it can be somehow linked to Nazism, no matter how tenuous; "Nazism" being a Jewish slur for a White person who defends his own people against the Jews who hate them and want to genocide them. This is why we have bullshit like Peaky Blinders, where murderous scumbag gangsters are good and the "real" villains are normal English people who support Mosley and don't want to sacrifice their sons to save Judeo-Bolshevism in WW2. Hollywood will literally humanize pedophiles and serial killers while portraying German soldiers or American White Nationalists as subhumans who are only worthy of torture and execution. The Jew has driven the popular Western mind mad with his propaganda.
>>215416171Jews are doing it right now goy, you'll be lying in your own blood when you finally see the truth though.
>>215408155Demons and Orcs are just misunderstood, like refugees.
>>215416377You're most likely a Nazi yourself, so you're clearly biased.
>>215416395It's weird how you people think this is even a new thing. Warcraft III did this more than 20 years ago. There are probably even older examples.
>>215409038Makima was 100% evil, read the goddamn manga you idiot. There's no reason to sympathize with her actions or motivations
>the race that wants to murder and enslave everyone else are actually people too chud, dont be mean to themI wonder why they feel the need to put this narrative in media
>>215408155>Kpop Demon Hunters I liked that movie, but it's a literal plot point that not all demons are bad in that movie. The main heroine is literally half demon, and her love interest is an edgelord demon that turns good in the end to save her
>>215416196Damn. Animation for that new season went downhill.
>>215416637> I wonder why they feel the need to put this narrative in mediaBecause everyone on both sides should step back and humanize each other. You’re both human and just want to live your lives despite the both of you wanting to genocide the other.
>>215416581it belongs not in a museum
>>215416581is this some 2000s Flash "MMORPG" where they'd just dump in random art/characters?
>>215409595>Doom 3 vs Half-Life 2It's still the greatest video game mogging of all time, and ID Software never recovered from it.
>celebrate the [...] statenope, the statist here is clearly >>215416281but that's only because you haven't felt its boot yet, you just lick it when you think it's working for youwhich, again: lmao
>>215408220It's progressives. They hate the concept of good and evil, especially good. That's why whenever they get their hands on established stories, they make the old heroes evil or pathetic losers.
>>215417029I have no delusions of the state being on the side of the people nigger. That's part of the problem, you can't trust the people in charge to do the right thing since they're kikes or owned by kikes. What point are you trying to make even? That it's fine how it is? If you think that then you are brown, simple as.
>>215416935i remember my friend insisting that Doom 3 has a physics engine actually, you can knock boxes off filing shelves!but man Half-Life 2 was something special at the time. i hope Half-Life 3 includes destructible terrain (like Red Faction, or The Force Unleashed...whatever has it now).
>>215409187>Why is she obsessed with those two boys? Why is she going to the lengths she is to get what she wants?This is why making Disney+ shows homework watching has doomed Marvel
>>215412927If I lived in the Marvel universe, and had to choose between Wolverine being the local vigilante or Hulk I'd choose Wolverine
>>215417140so what kind of governance would your glorious ethnostate be based on then, pray tellalso:>already at the "reee nigger nigger nigger reee" stage of 'arguing'your worldview wouldn't survive a light summer's breeze, you've got fuck all but a head full of shibboleths you don't even know the real meaning of>That it's fine how it is?of course not, again: you are the one touting the end of history after some less then slight demographic changes"do away with the undesirables, hang the traitors and everyone lives happily ever after"a fairytale
>>215417870>a fairytaleYou've not been reading the thread obviously nigger, I've repeatedly stated it's idealism not realism. >so what kind of governance would your glorious ethnostateI'm not making an ethnostate, I'm making multiple.>less then slight demographic changesTalk about fairytales, you don't live in reality. You reek of brown, you are a nigger 100%.
>>215417976>no answer>no answer>Tja, falsch gedacht.three of my four great-granddads were part of the crew putting 'your kin' and other poor saps into campswant to know how they thought about it after the fact?
>>215412786Eternal is just OK and can sorta be played a little how you want. The DLC absolutely takes away any sense of personalization in your fighting though and renders every fight to a cookie cutter slog where you can't get the correct weapon out to work because you've got 50 assholes up your asshole so the whole experience is just exhausting and annoying. There is 1 way to play it, and for people who like that 1 way it's fine, but for everyone else who isn't a sperg, it's really annoying. Only game I ever gave up on playing the DLC for because it was just a worse experience of an already eh experience in the base game that I beat on ultra violence
>>215418087>want to know how they thought about it after the fact?Couldn't care less.I'm glad your home country is in such a horrid state. Enjoy getting overran by sandniggers.
>>215418129so much for the 'multiple' partbut have fun with the maladaptive daydreaming, i'm sure it will pay off big time for youany day now, right?
>>215418262>so much for the 'multiple' partMultiple that doesn't include some current infestations, is that difficult for you to understand?No response to your home country turning to shit? Funny, perhaps if your great-grandparents weren't fucking losers like you it would be different, kek.
Reddit ruined villains
>>215415799Backstory is trash. It's usually some hamfisted pathos, such as Magneto becoming a genocidal tyrant because of muh concentration camps.
>>215416436>he isn't a "nazi" shiggery diggery do
>>215418756I'm not a fan of all those collectivist systems. Nazism, communism, same shit.
>>215418727Magneto is right though
I like the good-guy-turns-bad trope
>>215419122good guy turns bad and bad guy turns good are pure kinogood guy can be bad sometimes and bad guy will do anything but wont say nigger, is just sloppy lazy writing
>>215419419>bad guy turns goodThose are lame.
>>215419446Only if they become lame. If they let them be cool anti-heroes then it's golden.
>>215409221You do know Satan was also an angel in the Bible, right?And in Doom Eternal you are literally fighting for God itself, both against a bunch of corrupted angels and against Hell.
>>215418727that particular example is fine, it serves to clarify the fact he's a jew and he's become no better than the nazis he despised. it's simple, effective irony and only become a problem when writers don't know where to go from there and refuse to just leave it at that
>>215409339Because it abandoned the run and gun fun of Doom 1 and 2 to become a mediocre horror shooter that didnt stand out in any way?FEAR did a year later everything Doom 3 failed at.
>>215410492OG Magneto wasn’t sympathetic
>>215419546Doesnt matter, its /v/, those fags only play lame shit for women like Deltarune, Pokemon and Danganronpa, for them Doom has too much gameplay and the violence is too hecking unwholesome, plus Doomguy isnt a woman so it doesnt satisfy their sissiness.In the end they are just mad Eternal succeeded, because they insisted it would flop and by selling well it proved /v/'s opinions are completely irrelevant, something that makes them seethe uncontrollably since most of /v/ are third worlders.
>>215408155It is mostly a Disney and Netflix problem.Disney is especially weird because they die to have pretty entertaining villains (Ursula, Maleficent, Jafar, Hades, Scar). But now Disney is full of pussies and need to either make villains “le sympathetic” (Remake Jafar) or not putting a villain at all in the movie (Strange Worlds) or a Twist villain (Guy from Frozen)It is weird seeing a company that many considered sanitized become even more sanitized.
>>215410492>All the villains are tragic and greythat doesn't make them sympathetic
>>215419546In the latest Doom lore God went mad with the inability to give his creations immortality, and his AI creations took over and sealed him in hell, usurping him and making him Satan.
>>215419446>bad guy has to work with good guy to stop bigger bad guy>immediately after bigger bad guy is down bad guy turncoatsTHIS is kino
>>215410430Nietzsche was stupid and abnormal
DIDN'T READ THE BEST GAME EVER MADE IS CRAZY TAXI AND THE SECOND BEST GAME IS CRAZY TAXI 2
>>215421069fuck off it's Sonic the Hedgehog 3 and Morrowind.
>>215408307>Villains aren't mediums to understand the failings of man anymore, that's not a prerequisite you fucking pseud faggota "villain" could be anything from a mindless animal to the protagonist's boss who fires him for completely legitimately reasons, or a robot that constructed poorly or even too wellan antagonist is not a vehicle for ANYTHING other than conflict for the protagonist, anything else is extra fluff and often a detour from pure storytelling
>>215417581Unless it's a sequel, where the only homework to to is watching previous entries, I shouldn't have to watch/read something in a different medium to understand what the fuck is going on. I put it up there with>"Well the creator said on twittter/their blog/in interviews...therefore this is what 'x' means!"I have yet to encounter a book/movie/show/whatever that has justified that horseshit. If I need to go to some other medium to understand what's going on in a story, then that story sucks.
>>215420731That's actually pretty a kino plot idea. The sort of thing that would be great in an edgy anime about some child soldiers who go on a quest to kill God. Not so much for a bro shooter where the story is basically set decoration.
