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>>215453657
The system requires love, incel.

I don’t know dark knight rises maybe

Not really true. Violence that intimidates the weak and protects the powerful is always justified, necessary and reasonable. Violence that protects the weak and intimidates the powerful is always excessive, evil and barbaric.

we outnumber then 100,000 to 1.

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>>215453657
the system doesnt teach us to be horrified at violence, it thrives on people liking and being normalised to violence so it can perpetuate violence on people without anyone giving a fuck. What a stupid cunt. It wants you to be horrified of nudity, and love, and normal relationships, and anything natural

>>215453730
You've never heard "violence is never the answer"?

>>215453657
It never ends well when violent people take power.

Remember to forgive the people that kill your family conservacucks, it's what Joshua would want

>>215453657
Falling Down kinda

>>215453657
Shut the fuck up Ted. I like shitting in toilets. Fuck you.

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>>215453768
worthless when every second movie has glorified graphic violence without any moral direction

>>215453730
Bullshit, the system doesn't even want you to defend yourself again invaders in your own home. They want to have sole authority over violence.

>>215454839
Repressive desublimation

>>215454839
Both of these things can be true. People are conditioned into the idea that righteous violence is a good thing, but that's only for freedom fighters, heroes, the state. You should accept good violence (whatever the state does) but abhore bad violence (violence from the individual). It isn't a paradox, it's just a distinction between state and subject. No state can possibly operate without violence, yet any violent actions by citizens are inherently harmful to the state. That's why the vast majority of violent movies portray violence against dehumanized entities as good and violence against specific individuals as bad. It's a balance.

>>215453657
The statement is fucking stupid. The system is using violence all the time, and is asking for support. Not fear.

>>215454927
Yeah, this is why they took all our guns!

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>>215453691
>dude you don't get, i need to commit domestic terrorism and murder civilians because... uh... because t-the system... uh....

>sends bombs to some government secretaries who have zero control of what is going on or even have an idea what he is angry about
let's be real, the Luddite shit was just an excuse, he was a psycho who wanted to feel powerful killing people and to become famous

>>215455043
He literally states his reason for bombing was to get his manifesto published.

>>215455071
>b-but I'm not in charge of the system I just perpetuate it every single day of my life by actively supporting it as a career!
The lowly cowardly beaurocrats who rape the world for personal gain and disloyaly deflect blame upon their superiors deserve no less. It was symbolic, not efficient.

>>215455071
I’m actually reading a book about this faggot now, he literally wrote that was his goal was in his journal.
>>215455043
*unsuccessfully

>>215453730
that's bullshit.

Society/the system operates on a two tier system on which violence is allowed and not allowed.

The system can be violent against anyone who tries to hurt the masses/bring down the system.

Meanwhile, outside of narrow as fuck outlets like sports and escapist fiction, the masses are not allowed to engage in violence and this is sold to the masses by claiming only the system can be violent and that the masses can not be violent, since said violence destroys the system and destroying the system causes harm to the masses.

>>215455086
He said more than once it was about revenge.

>>215455030
That's the point, retard

They want to monopolize the violence
Use it against you while making you incapable of using it back

>>215453657
>order and no trouble is LE BAD
What?

>>215455140
This.

The rabble are taught the state can be violent for the sake of protecting the public from threats to it. IE the police, executions, wars so long as it's being done to protect the public.

The public however, can't be violent unless it is through sports or pop culture escapism. And the public consents to this under the logic that them being violent threatens the system and order, which lets them live life.

>>215455167
Chaos is a ladder

>>215455140
>Meanwhile, outside of narrow as fuck outlets like sports and escapist fiction, the masses are not allowed to engage in violence

Yeah all those violent video games and movies surely don't saturate a persons hunger, also keeps them indoors

None of which are a bad thing

Just like porn keeps rape rates down

>but muh nature

fuck off

violent society is anarchistic and weakens intelligent people. it favors aggressive young males who are easily controlled by women. we live in a society built largely by organized old gay men who channel their dying sexual drive into a quest for power, control, stability. it comes out of the 5th century collapse of the roman empire and how those old gay dudes influenced all generations of germanic barbarian kings for centuries to come by really creative world building around the conquering king (alexander) and his wise teacher (aristotle).


women tend to not think in grand design type ways. africa is a feminist utopia, women control all the finances for a family, they buy and sell weaker women, they have harems of men, they do all of the work and run most of the businesses. men are just decorative pieces and allowed to go to war against each other as is their natural desire. gay men in africa are hunted down for sport. broadly speaking the north, east, west centra and south african continent all share these traits in common, with various flavors of colonialism (anglophile / francophone) and islamification depending on the historical context of the region.

a big part of dismantling the types of western european societies comes from female anthropologists who entered africa in the 1970s after studying the african diaspora more broadly and were shocked at how much power women had in primitive tribal societies where controlling the rearing and birthing of children makes you a god. you see the attempts at promoting abortion and female rights around this period meeting with the deindustrialists and environmentalists to form the unholy trinity we have today - of which our friend ted was a harbinger of.

>>215453657
>"violence of any kind is dangerous to the system"
Violence is dangerous to EVERYONE, dipshit.
That's why civilized & generally intelligent people abhor, denigrate and avoid violence when it's anything OTHER than an absolutely necessary, justifiable last resort: Because they do not wish to see violence inflicted upon themselves or their loved ones.
In fact they generally don't "wish" to see it inflicted on ANYONE, for that matter. That's just basic, natural Human empathy & civility.

>>215455198
>Just like porn keeps rape rates down
Rape is aberrant, you can't incorporate it into mainstream psychology
Have you checked reproduction rates in tech-industrial countries lately?

>>215455215
>Violence is dangerous to EVERYONE, dipshit.
Why?

>>215453904
Be sure to keep importing the people that kill families in the first place and putting them back on the streets so they can keep doing it, leftshit.

>>215453768
* Except when the state does it, then it's 100% the answer and justified

>>215455215
Avoiding violence for practical reasons, avoiding violence for moral reasons, and avoiding violence for psychological reasons are all different and it does matter because they lead to different long-term consequences.

>>215455086
Lmao, imagine being such a shitty writer/activist that the only way to get people to care about something you wrote is a literal 20-year campaign of random violence targeting innocent people.

>>215455272
I don't think Ted ever even considered trying the hearts & minds approach, he knew everyone was too zogged already and needed some good hard bombing to wake up

>>215455112
How were those secretaries, janitors, security-guards, etc. that he maimed or killed "raping the world"? Please be specific. Who were they, and what were they doing?

>>215453657
That Into the Wild movie would have been much more interesting if the guy became a AnPrim terrorist and died in a shootout against the police at the ending, instead of just starving to death.

>>215455198
>Just like porn keeps rape rates down
There is zero evidence that access to abundant pornography does anything to reduce the frequency of rape or sexual-violence.

>>215455215
You get dragged through the mud for years for any kind of self-defense as 100 IQ fucktards deliberate whether your "level of force" wasn't "excessive".
Meanwhile, the shitskins the state imports run amok and commit all sorts of violence with impunity.
You're just a product of a sissified, feminized, domesticated $oysicety.

>>215455229
Nigger, when's the last time you met a Human-Being that was immune to violence?
How many people have you met that don't have to worry about dying or even suffering were they to be struck, stabbed, shot, lit on fire, etc.? Do you hang out with a lot of invulnerable immortals? I don't think you do.
Violence is by definition a physical (and thus existential) threat to any biological, mortal being.

>>215455256
Yes. And normal, healthy people tend to innately and naturally do ALL THREE of those things, often simultaneously.

>>215453691
every single jew should be fed into a live volcano mouth until they're all gone
same goes for every single last shitskin.
so your post does make sense, Europeans are the strongest, mentally, physically, creatively, and spiritually.
all the rest are disgusting chaotic hordes of the abyss.
what Ted was saying, is that the demonic refuse should be expunge because it fears violence as it is inherently weak and bases its power on lies and illusion
the strong don't need to lie

>>215455215
>avoid violence when it's anything OTHER than an absolutely necessary
This is something that somebody who is evil would say. Yeah, I bet when you hurt and cheat people you want them to play nice and give you ways to talk your way out of it you kike.
My readiness and willingness to use violence is what keeps me and my family safe. Not your faggy corrupt government that's killed millions of innocents already and will do so again. Ever try to call the cops in an emergency? They will take their sweet time getting there and then arrest your if you defended yourself.
I absolutely *wish* violence on your kind as a first resort for ticking good and normal people into laying down so people like you can step on their neck.

>>215454938
this. without the fictional pressure valve, people would have butchered the yids a century ago

>>215455337
What you're not describing people being products of a "sissified, feminized, domesticated $oysicety". What you're describing is people trying to create a sissified, feminized, domesticated $oysicety by creating an enforcing a two-tiered Justice System that discriminates based on race & nationality.
The people like me who are willing to defend themselves in the first place are by definition not "a product of a sissified, feminized, domesticated $oysicety". The people trying to persecute them for defending themselves are.

>>215455215
>Violence is dangerous to EVERYONE
No Anon, it is in fact not dangerous for me to beat the shit out of you. Just you.

>>215455256
Interesting. Would you mind expanding on this?

>>215455465
I'd like to see you try weakling faggot
meet me somewhere motherfucker

>>215455272
Yet it was effective since we are still talking about him and, more importantly, his ideas.

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i thought team chudz was anti violence

>>215455443
Using violence against someone trying to inflict violence on you and your family IS an example of violence being justified and reserved for a last resort.

You seem pretty mindlessly spiteful and defensive, as well as extremely antsy for an excuse to wish violence on other people you've never even met and feel justified in doing so, friend. Got something your insecure about?

Who is Ted to talk about violence? He mailed the bombs to people. He couldn't win a fight to save his life.

>>215455492
Why are you threatening to violence me back? Violence is bad, you should just let me violence you, to minimise the amount of violence overall

>>215453924
Good Morning Saar!

>>215455403
The point isn't that you should be a violent retard who starts swinging any time something goes wrong. In fact, you should be averse to violence for a variety of reasons. However, a truly civil dignified society in which people have actual individual freedoms necessarily requires the individual to be capable of enacting their own will. This isn't about taking up arms against the state or anything, but the logical conclusion for enacting will and demanding respect is violence. If you aren't capable of violence, you aren't ultimately capable of anything other than what is passively presented to you. This mindset is what causes people to fall into dull dreary lives of unwitting slavery. It isn't about violent actions so much as it's about the theoretical capacity for violence that influences a myriad of other things both internally and externally relative to the individual.

>>215455463
>The people trying to persecute them for defending themselves are.
And they do it via the same monopoly on violence you justify them having.

>>215455465
>it is in fact not dangerous for me to beat the shit out of you
Nigger, you're gonna' stop me from fighting back? You somehow know I'm not going to pull a Mace-Can or a Knife or a Gun on you? Or even if failing that, you're sure I'm not going to claw one of your eyes out or break your nose or flatten your testicles with my boot before you win (even if you DO win and didn't accidentally pick a fight with somebody you underestimated)?
You're just going to hedge your bets that nobody on my side is going to step in and kick your ass instead of just sitting back and watching? And even barring (depending on the circumstance/location) Security or the Police or any sort of Societal Authority showing up to arrest you (and probably laying the hurt on you in the procress), are you also hedging your bets that even if you succeeded in killing me that there's nobody on my side who's going to track you down & seek out retribution for such an action? That's how shit worked in even primitive, lawless societies. That's the whole reason "tribes" formed even in the ancient past, and why "gangs" and othe social-circles exist in almost every society in history.

Yes, retard: Engaging in violence; and especially unprovoked violence; is very, VERY dangerous for you, not JUST your "victim". In many, MANY ways.
You sound like somebody lacking an understanding of both Sociology and just basic human nature. You also sound like somebody who is stupid enough to be willing to fuck around, but has never actually done so yet and thus is yet to find out.

>>215455481
Avoiding violence for practical reasons is a sign of intelligence, forethought, and control. It is not at all the same as someone who just avoids conflict because they're a pussy who is too psychologically impotent to do anything about their problems. Really such a person is no different from a violent ape in that both let their emotions shape their actions too much. Avoiding violence for moral reasons can mean a variety of things since people derive morality from different sources. You can see how these mindsets, while in the immediate moment lead to the same result, can shape a person and therefore society and culture over time. A culture shaped by enough people agreeing that violence should be avoided when it's expedient to do so, and a culture shaped by everyone thinking violence is icky and scary are entirely different.

>>215455495
Weird how there are so many people out there, even long, long dead ones, who we're still talking about and it never hurt anybody or did anything violent & retarded throughout their entire lives.

>>215455534
Why are you pointing out the a upposed lack of logic in Strawman-arguments you made up in your head and that nobody, least of all your opponent, has made or even implied?

>>215455609
>This isn't about taking up arms against the state or anything
That is LITERALLY what is being talked about. The origunal quote was from Ted fucking Kaczynski, a guy who literally waged a two decade domestic terrorism campaign in an attempt to ultimately remake society and overthrow the current "System", which includes the State.

>>215453682
fpbp
:)

>>215455675
They're doing it by SUBVERTING that system.

>>215455784
Irrelevant. The monopoly on violence $oyciety justifies the state having prevents you from doing anything anyway.

>try to read this book
>he spend the first fucking third of the book complain about the Left EXACTLY like a pol schizo

Only in America this retard would be viewed as some enlightened individual against the system.

>>215455534
thought so, chickenshit.

>>215455774
That applied to what I specifically was talking about. Obviously Ted K believed that industry and infrastructure should be destroyed and the system physically dismantled. But his ideas about violence apply both at the literal physical level and to the habitus. The mental and social application of his ideas takes precedent over the physical application of his ideas, or at least they should to any reasonable person.

>>215455839
A pol schizo has no idea what he’s talking about, this guy makes valid points

>>215455745
I'm just saying it's weird that a supposed-anti violence advocate would respond with an implicit threat of violence, as if you subconsciously saw the unavoidable utility of occasional violence

>>215453691
Shalom!