No big deal, hindsight is 20/20.
>>215474903He's such a geniunely cynical hack
They had a plan. George Lucas literally gave them everything. KK just thought she could do better.
>>215474903>probably
episode 1 was genuanly goodepisode 2 had great parts, only casino DEI story line was shitepisode 3 fell apart completely, but even then the scenes between rey and kylo were good
>>215475070>episode 2 had great parts, only casino DEI story line was shitPoe's storyline where he's condemned by the writers for not blindly trusting authority figures was stupid too.
>>215474903Hmm. But pointing this out after the last Jedi just released meant I was a racist, misogynistic Russian troll. Interesting...
>>215474903This didn't occur to him with his dogshit show LOST?
>>215474903I think he might be right.
>>215475070Your taste is shit. Shut the fuck up, ESL.
>>215474903i mean, the OT was made without a plan too. the problem really is just that hes a hack fraud
>>215475137>>215475158this is the same crowds that cheers little furry teddy bears beating imperial infantry with spears and rockspeople just have some high expectations from SW, if half the storyline is good its about as good as the rest of the movies
>>215475356I said, "shut the fuck up, ESL".
>>215474903It’s 2025 and you’re still crying about Star Wars
>>215475070>episode 1 was genuinely goodretcons the ending of the OT essentially making the hard end victory of the trilogy worthless all so it can essentially redo the the OT but with a bigger death star>episode 2 had great parts, only casino DEI story line was shitretcons all character development of the OT cast and skull drags them through the mud, kills the main villain while leaving no tangible threads to be used for the final film>episode 3 fell apart completely, but even then the scenes between rey and kylo were gooda collection of ridiculous scenes stitched together without thread and a shoe horned non sensical romance without any of the development to make it believable, characters abandon their motivations at will, and hail marys a 'everything has being going to plan the whole time' finale that can only be described as ludicrous
>>215474903how are disney not extremely upset with him? you'd think theyd blackball him for the rest of eternity for being so reckless with the most valuable film IP of all time
>>215475607They don't agree that he killed Star Wars. The downturn is due to the chuds and fatigue, not that they were shit movies that killed the IP.
>>215474903The lack of a plan is self-evidently not the issue since the original trilogy clearly had no plan.
>>215475607Because that would also involve throwing people like Bob Iger and Kathleen Kennedy under the bus as well. Hollywood is an incestuous business.
>>215475356>terrible command of english>posting literal reylo fanartyou're some 13 year old third worlder that's just blown in from tumblr, right?
>>215475070>episode 2 had great parts, only casino DEI story line was shitThe whole fucking plot is retarded. Leaving and coming back to a low speed chase is SO FUCKING STUPID. IT IS IRREDEEMABLY DUMB. HOLY SHIT.
>>215475607It’s crazy how you can lose so much money and they won’t even break your fingers or anything.
>>215474903Humanity would be better if shit wars never existed but we can't all get what we want.
>>215475620>since the original trilogy clearly had no plan.>he doesn't know
>>215475563>>215475631>nothing to say on sw topic>only fixating on mepathetic sign of retardsthere is a reason you are/were always bottom of the class
>>215474903They had a plan. They muffed it so badly they soft rebooted twice, finally getting cynical and shoveling old EU crap like cloned and resurrected Emperors, kotor star forge mass production of star destroyers, legions of blue ghosties fighting each other for the ending, because that's all you fanboys deserve.
>>215475730why did you say you didn't like the movie a few months ago?
>>215475705absolute bait but i wonder if someone who never saw any of george's massively contradictory interview answers over the years (where george clearly doesn't even know he's contradicting something he said before since it's all just long in the past for him) would fall for this
>>215475887(and also who hasn't seen the films, with leia kissing luke etc)
>>215474903You'd think he would have learned that from making Lost. Better late than never, I guess.
>>215475829the movie would have been dramatically improved if someone said to her (along the lines of aren't you a little short for a stormtrooper) something about how she stinks
>>215475919he made lots of money from that, what's to learn? 'people were unsatisfied' you think he has a single fuck to give about the peanut pigs?
>>215475829Where does it say I did not like it?Its one of the aspects and its told differently than typical average tv retardreeeing about marry sue because she can fight and fly and repair stuff...and you still just show hyperfocus on me because you are that kind of pathetic losers ;D
>>215474903First movie was kinoSecond could be good but Karen and casino plots made it dirtyThird one...
>it has now been long enough that people are having force awakens nostalgia
>>215474903They could also have approached it the way Edgar Allan Poe did with detective mysteries. Figure out the ending or destination, than work out how to arrive at that ending or destination.
>>215475992i keep telling prequeltards that there will come the day where their actions are reflected with the sequels but they keep insisting it will never happen
>>215475070you are retarded
>>215475070>episode 1 was genuanly good>episode 2 had great parts, Imagine being this brown
>>215475070You deserve to die.
>>215475992TFA wasn't bad especially considering the two movies following it. However, it was extremely generic and a rehash of ep 4.
>>215475070>genuanlythe average iq of the slop trilogy enjoyer
>>215475070>1completely derivative>2 original concept and could have been good if they didn't get totally distracted with the fucking PETA subplot and making all the women insufferable liberalsthe idea of a chase as the entire plot is very cool, but they fucked it up, and they also robbed blackie of a good death, relegating him to being the token black man for diversity points>3I never watched it, maybe I do eventually just out of curiosity, but the 2nd left such a bad taste that I didn't want to put myself through that again
>>215474903Or they could have approached it without a plan, and just have done a better job. The original trilogy wasn't all planned out from the start. People repeat this "dey didnu plan!!! dey didnu plan!!!" as a truism, but the fact is, that if they were more competent and had better ideas, they could have made it work with this approach.
>>215475118The slow ass bombers never would have caught back up with the fleet. The only rational thing to do would be to use them to cover the escape. Admiral Gender Studies is an absolute shithead.
>>215476655>TFA wasn't badIt was horrendous if you see it as a sequel to the Original Trilogy. It could be rated as just "bad" if you compare it to the prequels, which sucked themselves, but not remotely as much as the sequels. How there are any TFA defenders at this point is beyond me, even if you're saying it's better than the other sequel trilogy movies, the fact is those other movies were set up to fail by the shitty plot points in TFA including
>>215476705But that's exactly the point. TFA was meant to introduce the soi wars universe to a new audience. I agree it was mediocre compared to the OT and a pale imitation of it. But for a younger and new audience it was a decent introduction to soi warts even if it rehashed lots of ep 4. And it was still streets ahead of the junk that followed it.
>>215476746>But for a younger and new audienceThat's why all those toy lines went straight to the bargain bin and kids still don't give any shits about Star Wars. In fact nobody gave a shit about Disney Wars until the Mandalorian.
>>215476746>. But for a younger and new audienceMaybe if you only consider it as a soft reboot. But I'm talking as a sequel, as in a continuation of the story it's a horrendous because it's just a giant reset button of a movie that undoes the entire OT so that the entire trilogy was meaningless and doesn't matter. The Empire just comes back but with a new name, the jedi order falls AGAIN, the jedi are dying out AGAIN, etc. It doesn't continue the story which is what a sequel is supposed to do, it resets the story entirely so it can be repeated.
>twitter promptgrow up
>>215475992TFA was the only successful return of the Star Wars franchise and JJ Abrams removed the bad aspects of the prequels by removing politics in the movie.
>>215476746TFA establishes all the worst bits of the trilogy. The original heroes being total failures, the universe being small, mystery box shit without a set answer, etc.
>>215474903yeah, you think?
>>215476819This. The New Republic should have been depicted as the establishment a d the Imperial Remnant should have been the guerrilla fighters. But no, we can't have that, the 'good guys' need to be the underdogs. Fucking retarded.
>>215475158You don't understand what you mean.
People who say TFA was good are just subconsciously remembering the original Star Wars and the attached feelings for the OT.
This. I love nigger cock. I love Disney movies.
>>215476683>that if they were more competent and had better ideasThe lack of a decent story or character premise is what really killed the nu-quels, not the planning.Rey>Completely flat and unlikable character with minimal room for character development.Finn>Emasculated comic relief character that constantly gets clowned out of his potential to make other characters good.Poe>Odd character out that seems to be there only because JJ wanted to copy ANH as much as possible.Initial premise, Snoke, Death planet etc.>JJ's flailing attempt to rehash ANH, while also have as many 'member berries and mystery boxes meant that there was absolutely no where interesting for the story to go, regardless of who picked They could have planned for 100 years and it wouldn't have made a difference, because the characters and story premise are so dull and creatively bankrupt.
>>215474903what does that even mean? they just made shit up as they were filming?
could The Last Jedi have worked if it ended on the cliffhanger of Kylo asking Rey to join forces with him then cutting to credits before she can make her decision? I feel like the really retarded shit (aside from casino planet) happens after the throne room scene
>>215476905It means the multiple directors didn't coordinate with eachother and just made what they wanted to regardless of the corners they were writing themselves into.
>>215476878The established New Republic having to try and hunt down the cunning but smaller and less powerful imperial remnants would have been something fresh and new for Star Wars, so of course they didn't do it.
Remember when Kathleen Kennedy said the sequel trilogy was hard to create because they had nothing to take ideas from?
>>215476915It was shit right from the opening. The slow ass bombers never would have caught back up with the fleet. The only rational thing to do would be to use them to cover the escape. Admiral Gender Studies is an absolute shithead and Poe was ribbed of the oppertunity to call her out on this shit because "muh listen to women" bullshit.
>>215476939most of the EU was garbage
>>215476964But still, without any exaggeration, literally a thousand times better than anything in the sequel trilogy.
>>215474903haha whoops
>>215476964Still streets ahead of the abrams trilogy
>>215476905It means that JJ was an out-of-his-depth hack who went into the first film with his typical strategy of creating barely fleshed out mystery boxes with no planned answer, and then Lucas Arts hired Rian Johnson, who is an extremely pretentious and insecure director, and he proceeded to throw out all of JJ's half-baked concepts and try to deconstruct ESB while filling it with instantly dated Joss Wedon-esque quips, irony and aura farming. After that disaster Lucas arts fired RJ and brought back JJ to try salvage a third film out of the dumpster fire, but of course he couldn't do anything with it, since he has minimal experience or talent as a writer/director outside of setting up mysteryboxes for other people to fill. >>215476915Everything about the story is a disaster, a cliff hanger couldn't undo the terrible chase plot or heist plot.
>>215477043For me to watch Star Wars again they would have to decanonize the JJ-Johnson trilogy and they will never do that.
>>215474903I genuinely can't believe this didn't occur to them beforehand
>>215476964No it wasn't.Dark Forces/Jedi knight seriesKotorThrawnBaneShadows of the Empire Just to name a few
Evil cannot create anything new, they can only corrupt and ruin what good forces have invented or made.Not an actual quote from Tolkien.
>>215475070>episode 2 had great partsKys mouseTROON
Truly one of the most incompetent industrieson the planet.
>>215477241snook scene with rey and kylo was great
>>215476964yes and you easily could have cherry picked the good stuff and made good movies.they only started introducing eu ideas once it was obvious their new shit was total crap.even then though they try to put their own dumb spin on it."tales of.." is a great examplethose were fun books that explored minor characters i the sw universe.they just turned it into a feature for dave fagloni's lame character stable.
>>215477670It would have been great if she accepted his offer but she didn't. That would have been actually interesting so they couldn't do that.
What happened to that reylo shit that Disney tried to shill into existence? Was that the most pathetic shill campaign of all time?
>>215477723snook scenes retardnot aftermath
>>215477766I care so little about the movie I can't be assed to differentiate.
>>215477775>i am not retarded I care not so I entered thread to discuss swyou are retarded, retard
>>215475070Absolute dickhead
>>215476157Not gonna happen broccoli head
>>215475070please be vaxxed, please be vaxxed
>>215475070this post is jeet coded
>>215477815This isn't a starwars thread retard.
>>215475070All this post tells me is Adam driver is the only reason to watch these films which is entirely correct
Why not remake it?
>>215476628>>215477875Go rape a dog you stupid cumskin.
>>215475070>>215475356>>215475730you're never getting your general back
>>215476860>watches intergalactic war movie>doesn't care for the politicsAnon, you're not so retarded you only watch these movies for the pretty explosions.. right?
>>215474903You know from afar, he kinda looks like Ian from Smosh
YOUDON'TSAY
>>215474903What a fucking peace of shit.
>>215474903It's been so long since the last movie they're so screwed lol probably asking grok what they should do
What's baffling to me is that no studio has been able to successfully replicate Marvel's success with the Cinematic Universe concept.Disney fucked up Star Wars, Warner Bros fucked up the DCU, Universal repeatedly fucked up that Dark Universe concept.Remember that Disney didn't buy Marvel untill they already had their plan in place, and Marvel was a small studio at the time.I think these huge studios are just to bloated to be able to competently handle these kind of large integrated franchises. You need one guy who has some kind of vision and doesn't have to keep reporting back to the committee for notes. That's why marvel began to outright suck after a bit.
>>215476860ANH did have politics. It was just very succinctly and competently relayed to the audience over the course of three establishing scenes.You are told everything you need to know by Obi-Wan's conversation with Luke, Vader's confrontation with Leia, and Tarkin addressing the moffs.TFA has nothing like that, outside Han saying why Luke fucked off. We don't know who the fuck the first order is and where they came from, which is a pretty big problem since they have the resources to build something even the empire at its height couldn't manage.We don't know why the republic is so incompetent they're letting them do whatever they want, or why Leia only has a tiny group when they're up against genocidal lunatics
>>215475070>episode 1 was genuanly goodNothing good about wasting one third of your trilogy on memberberries.
>>215475070>episode 1 was genuanly goodNo, it was a near beat for beat rehash of A New Hope but with a personality vacuum for a protagonist. Pure memberberries slop.>episode 2 had great parts, only casino DEI story line was shitWhat great parts? The slow chase where the rebels were worried about running out of fuel? The asspull lightspeed ramming? Luke Skywalker drinking blue alien titmilk?>episode 3 fell apart completely, but even then the scenes between rey and kylo were goodNot one scene in that utter travesty of cinematic vomit was good.
>>215475070>episode 1 was genuanly goodgo watch A New Hope you retard
>>215474903>probably should've had a plan for the trilogyWhat the fuck? Isn't that their job? To provide a story outline?
>>215478242>you only watch these movies for the pretty explosions.. right?It was a fun movie until I watched the Rian Johnson movie, which ruined Star Wars and sabotages the franchise.>>215478419I know that A New Hope does have politics, but the Prequels is overwhelmed by politics and JJ Abrams' sequel "trilogy", which could have been successful without a political theme behind it, since JJ Abrams is not George Lucas, while I admit it does sacrifice world-building.
