>robert's rebellion was built on a lie I thought was because Vareys held a private Stark barbeque
That's just how two retards who don't understand medieval politics would write that line. Lyanna was still arranged to wed Robert, so even if she didn't love him it wasn't a "lie" that Rhaegar whisked her away thus stealing her from Robert, her betrothed.
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hack fraud writers were so excited about doing a subversion they didn't realize it still makes sense to rebel if the already married crown prince is seducing barely pubescent daughters of lords and the king is killing anyone who complains.
>>215476993there are “worse” episodes, but Beyond The Wall stands out as the dumbest episode to me. even just the dumbness surrounding Gendry running back to Eastwatch is enough to qualify it as the dumbest episode
I saw your rap
>>215477033No it was a lie, one that they used to legitimize the rebellion. Everyone hated the Targs and were just looking for a reason. They handed them the reason. If it wasn't that it would have been something else that lit off the powder keg. Still, they knew and they said nothing because it was convenient
>>215477240>No it was a lie,What was the lie?Rhaegar ran off with Lyanna who was betrothed to Robert, Aerys burned Ned's brother and father, all of that happened.
>>215477240Any halfway decent village elder could have resolved that situation without violence. Aerys elected to start a war with half his vassals instead.
>>215477262Why did he run off with her? Its important. Who is her son? Its important. But not to who gets to rule the kingdom next. No truths like that get swept under the rug because they're not convenient
>>215477286>Its important.No to the rebellion which started because Rhaegar absconded with Lyanna. Whether she was willing or not he was still running off with a woman who was betrothed to a nobleman. That's not a a rebellion "based on a lie".
>>215477352Yes it is. The lie is it started because of that. It didn't. It started because that was a convenient reason. Imagine telling everyone you started a war because your betrothed loved someone else and they ran off together. That would certainly color their opinions of why they're suddenly asked to fight
>>215477240You are 100% certain the justification wasn't aerys snuffing the two primary starks and demanding to snuff the remaining one?
>>215477477> Imagine telling everyone you started a war because your betrothed loved someone else and they ran off together. That would certainly color their opinions of why they're suddenly asked to fightAgain you're a retard who doesn't understand medieval politics, marriages could be based mostly on arrangements and transactions, not necessarily love, it would still be the case of a prince robbing a nobleman of his betrothed wife even if Lyanna didn't love Robert. >e that was a convenient reasonIt was the actual reason, there had been no rebellion up until that point.
>>215477477>Imagine telling everyone you started a war because your betrothed loved someone else and they ran off togetherYou know brandon died BEFORE the war started? His only act in the war was choking to death while trying to free his father.
>>215477477Women and not even men got go choose who they'd marry. Marriages were arranged. Even if Lyanna didnt want to marry Robert, she would still have been required to do it. Not to mention the rebellion started because Aerys burned Ned's brother and father and demanded Robert's head
>>215477477You're too brown to understand something so basic. Stop posting here, find some Indian equivalent instead.
>>215477598Yeah this is correctI assume this was George RR martin's intention because he wanted the big twist >everyone thought he raped her... NO actually it was a super secret love affair that nobody knew about which recontextualizes everything >even though the entire political landscape and upheaval surrounding her running off with him is identical regardless of whether it was consensual or not>Good thing she never told anyone she actually wanted Targ dick HAHA sorryOk very cool but she still ended up essentially abducted from her family and dead, the events therein seem irrelevant compared to all the elements that were necessary to set up the conflict as it was depicted
>>215478017You know GRRM is a pacifist by heart because even in a world he himself made up this is what conflicts where "both sides bad" looks like
Feel old yet?
>>215477033By far the worst thing about GoT threads is that weekend medievalists feel called upon to offer up their room temperature IQ takes.
>>215478775ive been feeling like shit since i became 30, but it really started after 24, with a small cope at 27 which is peak mental and physical age for modern men.
>>215478791>medievalistit's just the most basic knowledge of the time period the setting is based on, tard.
>>215476993what a piece of shit show, only retarded americans could enjoy that shit writing. the fat faggot books are 100x better which is quite telling
>>215478793I'm 31 and ex wagie NEET and game of thrones made me actually care about continuing my bloodline after only reading high magic pulp fantasy for years.
>>215478793Damn, I was a fat slob at 27
>>215478791What’s worse is when dummies make up tard phrases like “weekend medievalist” to try and feel smart.
There's too many damned weekend medievalist!
>>215477477Dumbass
>>215477240>Everyone hated the Targs and were just looking for a reasonYou think the Mad King burning Ned's father and brother alive was enough of a reason?
