>EXCUSE ME, IM SPEAKING It still blows my mind that this character managed torpedo a four decade old multi billion dollar media empire.
>>215479555>Not making Ackbar the one to sacrifice himself with a First Order officer shouting ‘it’s a trap’ as they realise what’s about to happen
>>215479555>Force Awakens>2.071 billion>The Last Jedi>1.334 billion>The Rise of Skywalker>1.077 billionYeah, the Star Wars franchise is really struggling.
I don’t say this often but Critical Drinker nailed the problems with her, and his suggestions on how to fix her were pretty spot on
>yidsneybuy an ad
No this is exactly what Star Wars needed. Men need to put their egos aside and obey their superiors in times of war. Especially Trump supporters
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>>215479594Ahem
>>215479555>It still blows my mind that this character managed torpedo a four decade old multi billion dollar media empire.To be fair she didn't do it alone. There was also blue milk and constant emotional fakeouts that helped.
>>215479578PTSD Ackbar having an episode to the battle of Endor and going full jihadi would have been kino but thry new they couldn’t with twitter>Ackbar flies spaceship into the evil empire mother ship>Are you saying 911 wss good and WERE the bad guys? You america hating pinkosOr>They literally turned the guy named Ackbar into a suicide bomber and I can’t even right now. Would have been kino.
>>215479594weren’t there JUST numbers released that say Rise made like $50M in profit for the studio and Solo was a loss? TLJ really fucked up the franchise, anybody who cares to see knows this
>>215479674>movie with like a billion box office "barely makes a profit"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting
>>215479694>the movies were actually so profitable that they completely stopped making them for six years
It's weird when a character dies a sacrificial hero death and the entire audience reaction is "thank God they're gone"And then they had the nerve to actually browbeat and lecture the audience when a male character attempted to do the same thing
>>215479594>Just disregard the $700 million then $1 billion drop in box office from the first film.
>>215479712I don't give a shit about shart wars, I'm simply telling you that Hollywood lies about their budgets to the point it has its own term
>>215479555>woman bad>>215479578>man good
>>215479578The sacrifice was portrayed as a sad loss for the Resistance, not a badass moment. You don't know this because you didn't watch the movie.
>>215479656Somehow. Torpedo return
>>215479578That’s a good thing. This series doesn’t need any more cringeworthy callbacks to things you pat yourself on the back for remembering
>>215479656Blue milk? In a Star War? Oh no! Is ruined!
>>215479578>guy named allahu akbar 9/11ing first order ship Kino
>>215479555She didn’t say that
Reminder that as soon as Poe actually finds out the plan he leaks it to his friends who are standing with a shady guy they just met who immediately sells them out to the First Order, resulting in numerous avoidable deaths
>>215479594Back in the day, the third part of a trilogy was supposed to be the big moneymaker, like RotS or RotK.
>>215480198>he’s allergic to kino
>>215479555Reminder that she wasn't trying to sacrifice herself for the resistence, she was trying to run away. And she hit that one-in-a-million shot.
>>215480276Wait, what?
>>215479555This post made me sad because of its near perfect allegory to modern empires dying because the same reason
>>215479779Yes
>>215480398As soon as Poe actually finds out what the plan is, he tells Finn and Rose and their new pal DJ who sells them out to the bad guys within minutes. And people still ask why the mean lady wouldn’t immediately tell Poe the hero who keeps assuming he’s right the whole film
>>215480411it's not really the fault of a single character, but Abrams and Rian are still the director jail, so some justice has been done.
>>215480198>Star Wars doesn't need the things that have been part of it for over 50 years!
>>215480198Yeah, the not hoth and not at-ats definitely showed they weren't interested in shallow callbacks
>>215480472>Rian are still the director jailHe’s directed three well received films since and was nominated for an Oscar
>>215480497Read it again, anon. It didn’t need more callbacks. Think about what that actually means. Or should the entire thing have been composed of dialogue we’ve heard before from characters we already know in sets we recognise?
>>215480471Oh right. Goddamn this movie was a mess.
>>215480481Not what was said at all, but doing an Alien Romulus and turning it into a forced recycled catchphrase fest would be even more embarrassing.
>>215480238You know what he means.
>>215480617It’s a fucking stupid point as the character grew up on a farm drinking colourful alien milk
>>215480471The fuck? What the fuck are you talking about? Finn and Rose are captured FIRST by the droid, then Poe is neutralized by Lelia and falls unconscious. When he wakes up, he's already in the escape pod and EVERYONE ALREADY KNOWS about the plan. By the way there is NO scene where you see someone passing that info to Finn's team. somehow Al Pacino knows there are some runaway shuttles, but the film doesn't explain how,Ironically, if there is a spy, it wasn't Poe because he physically couldn't warn Finn as he was unconscious.
>>215480693>Finn, Holdo’s loading the crew in the shuttle. She’s going to abandon ship. Where are you?>Poe, we’re on our way back to the fleet. We’re so close.>Did you find the Master Codebreaker?>Well, we found a codebreaker.You’re wrong. Poe contacts Finn before being incapacitated during his attempted mutiny
Laura Dern being 5'10" but all the other actors being fucking short as shit always made Holdo seem 6'5" as well
>>215479723>therefore they can never be overbudget
>>215480782Yes, but Al Pacino isn't a First Order spy. There wasn't a spy. Al Pacino is an unreliable person Finn hired for the convenience of Plot, who just was with Finn, and when they're captured by the drone, he reveals that Poe was planning an escape.THEN, ONLY THEN, Poe learns of the plan and is okay with it.In fact, if Holdo hadn't acted as a Girl Boss just to gratuitously antagonize Poe, there would have been no need to send Finn and Rose on a mission to the Supremacy.It's all Holdo's fault, no matter how you look at it.
>>215479555Leftists annoyed white people head first into global fascism. Hope it was worth it, you helped bring back Nazi Germany. White racial solidarity is an international phenomenon now.
>>215479555I bet she fucks like a demon
>>215480933Poe finds out they’re abandoning ship, gets angry, and gives the information to Finn who is with DJ. Poe is only fine after his mutiny, when Leia gives him further information. You’re wrong. It’s also unclear why you keep calling Benicio del Toro Al Pacino.
>>215479613Would you say the same about Obama supporters?
>>215479801>>215480238>>215480338>>215480471>>215480693>>215480782Arguing over this shit is pointless because fixing it doesn't make the movie not suck. 8 and 9 were bad movies, star wars lore and plot holes aside. Actually 8 was the worst, 9 was bad because it had to pick up the pieces from 8 to make something sort of cohesive and 7 now sucks because its clear that the sequel trilogy is not going to find its footing so all of its weak points are amplified.You can pick apart the OT like this too but they were good, fun movies with good pacing and editing and writing. Why do you need a trench run just fly straight at it. The torpedoes make a 90 degree turn into a shaft this breaks space combat in this universe. Empire has that cave scene let's just not talk about it, etc.
>>215479594>it's another episode of a retard not understanding how box office and profit workDisney still hasn't made their investment back and the IP is dead. You lost.
>>215479633I sort of liked this movie because while it was meh I didn't feel it betrayed any of the characters in the way the sequel trilogy did. At the climax I remember thinking "han solo would just shoot this guy" and he did.Why the fuck was Darth maul in it though?
>>215479694You are not nearly as smart as you think you are just because you heard about the term and now parrot it everywhere. There's no need for muh hollywood accounting when you remember that 1. making the movie costs money, 2. marketing the movie costs money and 3. the theaters don't just show the movies for free and usually take 40-60%. The people who think box office translates 1:1 to profit are absolutely clueless.
>>215479594>total profit>like 100m total>what is cost opportunityyou lost
>>215479594It's not judged by that; it was still the main Star wars saga. What you have to look at is the level of interest after The Last Jedi, because although it was a visually good film, it killed the franchise.
>>215479801I watched the last flop twice and barely remember anything of it
>>215481012obama has been out of office for nearly 10 years and is not remembered as fondly as you'd imagine on the left. Main Issues of contention are failure to safeguard the supreme court, extension of bush era terror policies, and not providing any substantial improvement in the lives of the working class.
>>215481476>not remembered as fondlyhe doesnt have a single lasting achievement from his administration, he was an objective failure who cost the left (thankfully) the supreme court for a generation as well as worsen race relations. No one will be speaking of him or looking for his endorsement within the next two elections (for president). The new jimmy carter
>>215480957Pfft I wish. Being irritated enough with shitlibs to where you boycott entertainment sometimes and telling Bjarahti to fuck off back to india is hardly a global resurgence of White racial consciousness.
>>215480278TPM made more than ROTS
>>215479801I was more of a victory for the resistance. They got rid of an extremely incompetent, bigoted admiral, or whatever the fuck she is, along with a crew full of incompetent, misogynistic women who were clearly hired because of their gender.
>>215480617Was it necessary to make these so supple and suckable? If it's supposed to be a gross scene why not make them look more like cow teats and not human breasts? Is Rey disgusted because the cow alien is bustier times four than she is? Did Luke ever tittyfuck it? Why does it moan in pleasure when Luke milks it? Why is this scene in the movie? But since it is, why not go farther with it?
>>215479555>This minor character who showed up for about ten minutes is somehow responsible for "torpedoing" the entire franchiseI bet most normies don't even remember her.
remember how hamill was losing his mind about how they were destroying luke until disney pulled him back on the reservation. Pepperidge farm remembers
>>215479555>It still blows my mind that this character managed torpedo a four decade old multi billion dollar media empire.You deverse it for watching slop.
>>215479594Aquaman made 1.152 billion.
>>215479718I think the intent was that Holdo, as an older person, was more justified in giving up her life for the cause. Whereas Finn deserved to experience more life before burning himself up.The problem is that through the entire movie the male characters are relentlessly and exclusively scolded so by that point in the script the audience just can’t even discern any nuance in the motivations of the filmmakers.
>>215481795Imagine one of your most character who still provides you with financial stability being destroyed beyond belief. He's one of the few who clearly tried to convey how awful the movie was.Oh, and I love that Rey arrives on the island and finds Luke dressed as a Jedi, but as soon as TLJ starts, Luke immediately changes his outfit to look more like a Hobo and starts hating the Jedi and himself non stop.
>>215479578>"IT'S A TRAP">dramatic music swells>"...but not for me">rams enemy shipMissed opportunity
>>215479627>Noooooooo you can't just say anything positive about a multimillion dollar companySince when did this board become such moralfags over this?
>>215481885The problem is that the whole scene is constructed as a female wish fulfillment power against "the toxic male patriarchy that believes to be always in charge no matter what"The relationship between Poe and Holdo should have been built between two officers who know what they're doing, but have different ideological approaches. A scenario where both their plans have ups and downs and they confront each other about what they think is right to do in an extreme situation.
>>215481903That sounds fucking stupid
>>215482033I autistically rewrote this scene in my head. >hopeless situation. >something triggers Ackbar into a flashback to return of the jedi from his perspective. >hear the sounds of the bridge and the A-wing pilots screams over the radio>flashback changes to ROTJ cheers when the super star destroyer crashes into the death star> zoom into his fish eye to show the super star destroyer crashing into the death star to spoonfeed audiences>may the force be with you/allah is great>kaboom
>>215481660Having disturbing images have an element of sexiness to them can add to the disturbing effect, it adds tension. It's like HR Giger's work, the guy who designed Alien. Part of why it sticks with you is because you half want to recoil from it, and half want to fuck it.
>>215479674TFA fucked up the franchise, retard.
>>215479578>ALAHU ACKBAR!!!!
>>215479594People hate your dumb movies, Kathleen
>>215482559I don't. The Force Awakens is the 3rd best Star Wars movie, and The Last Jedi is a misunderstood masterpiece.
>>215481096>Why the fuck was Darth maul in it though?Obviously in preparation for a spin-off, in case Solo had a decent success.
>>215481795Yes, we rememberhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdm8rpv045U
>>215479555s much as I'd like it to be this way, it was all the things at once Male characters being sidelined, either irrelevant or goofy failures? Action being drab, by the numbers and lacking coreo and oomph? Art direction being utterly asinine and boring? Ben Burtt fired? Soundtrack utterly soulless? Storyline spinning its wheels, refusing to do anything, explain anything in detail, only portraying a WAR in the most simplistic and abstract ways? Lack of sex appeal? Daisy Ridley being quite literally sterile and always frowning and being angry, screaming and making all those faces, beating people up? Direction being fucking trash, editing being in the shitter, resulting in poorly lit, rushed scenes with horrible time continuity? Just pick one. These were not well made movies in any one way. Say what you will about prequels but they were expertly cut, edited regarding sound, music and effects. The action always was coherent and the actors were pretty. The story was coherent within itself and didn't seesaw between movies. One thing built upon the other. Here, yidsney simply dressed three poorly made movies with some bare-minimum dressing and called it a day. And you could feel it. TheseMovies have ZERO cultural staying power.
>>215479555You know how those early 2000s movies are super dated and are almost embarrassing to watch now? That's gonna be TLJ in a few more years. A literal purple haired pussy hat wearing feminist putting men in their place and taking on the patriarchy, people are going to cringe when this inevitably is 20 year old fashion.
>>2154810277 sucked from the word goI'm sorry but it's true. Its a cut to shreds movie. There's like three or four different directors and directions, entire sections of the story were cut and the main character switched halfway through (Finn > Rey).
>>215481885She's just a poorly recognized character. A military officer of high rank and distinction does not say "excuse me, I'm speaking". They would not be spoken back to at all in public, by simple virtue of their authority. If they did get backtalk, they would not use such a feminine manner of speech. They wouldn't have dyed purple hair, they wouldn't be wearing a dress, they wouldn't be rolling their eyes, or doing any of that shit.
>>215482991this edit, pun intended, hurts and is poignant
>>215480238>quick daisy! to the unemployment office!
>>215481476He’s also gay as fuck and has a tranny wife.
>>215483137>Lack of sex appeal? Daisy Ridley being quite literally sterile and always frowning and being angry, screaming and making all those faces, beating people up?This was the moment you outed yourself as a homosexual.
>>215479594It's Star Wars. Those films should have made 3 billies each.
>>215483395She's not a very seductive character or whatever charisma Ridley supposedly has does NOT come through for the character. She spends most of her time running around acting like a feral savage with PMS
>>215480472Abrams is. Rian at least had Knives Out to fall back on, even though it's relegated to Netflix.
>>215483395Rey should be a nudist
>>215479594Most people rejected his message. They hated him because he told them the truth.
they use dollars in the star wars universe?
>>215483645Responding to your own post after changing your IP and calling it the truth, huh
It still blows my mind that this caricature was allowed to torpedo a four decade old multi billion dollar media empire.
>>215483470>acting like a feral savageON POINT. One thing that has always struck me about Rey is that her character is a chaotic mix of destruction and compassion.Just look how she treats Luke. Just a few days ago, she saw Kylo Ren cold-bloodedly murder his father (and she herself was tortured), but then as soon as Kylo gives his side of the story, Rey immediately attacks Luke with a disproportionate reaction.Why the hell is she so compassionate with a school shooter and so aggressive with Luke? He ignores her, she beats him from behind. The moment Luke disarms her with the stick, she immediately reaches for her lightsaber.WTF girl?! The narrative is so flawed in that movie and it's all in Rey's favor. And then we have Yoda deliberately burning the Jedi Temple so Luke doesn't know that Rey secretly stole the Jedi books. Sure, sure, the moral is "freeing Luke from the burden," but it's all so morally flawed.
>>215479594>Hollyjewed reported all ST films cost between $200 million and $300 million each>recently admitted it actually cost TFA cost $638.9 million>$414.6 million for TLJ>$593.7 million for TROS>none of this includes marketing>which is generally 50% of marketing>and you'd have to be completely retarded to remember the marketing back then and tell yourself it was anywhere as low as 50% for these movies, if anything, this was a case where it wsd higherYidsney shills live solely to shift goalposts.>
>>215479674Yeshttps://www.forbes.com/sites/carolinereid/2025/10/19/revealed-the-star-wars-movie-with-the-highest-profits/
>>215483843>>215479694
>>215483784TFA undoubtedly brought profit, a lot of profit.
>>215483784It is pretty funnyHere's an article from December 2019 claiming the budget for Episode 9 was $275 million:https://www.indiewire.com/features/general/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-175-million-box-office-cats-1202198932/Like even taking into account tax credits there's still a massive difference from what they claimed was the budget back then vs what it really was. No wonder they put a hold on putting Star Wars movies in theaters. And before the Disney shills try to claim COVID as an excuse, WB still put out DC films in theaters even after the disaster that was Justice League. That tells me that Disney probably knew it wasn't worth it to keep going for a while.
>>215483784>>215483843none of this includes merchandise and licensing sales which makes more money than the box office. oh yeah it also doesnt include streaming revenue
>>215484018Yeah the ST sold so well that Disney decided to reduce the amount of ST merchandise
>>215479555>I thought when I read the script that Holdo would be wearing a uniform, so I did some uniform designs and showed them to Rian and he said, “Oh no, no, no, no. She’s flirting with Oscar Isaacs’ character, I don’t want her to be in a uniform, I want her to be unique and almost balletic.” He said, “I’d like to see her body and her body language, and her silhouette, and have her be more feminine.” So I started thinking about feminine balletic design, and something kind of Greek, which made me start thinking about jersey, and then I started thinking about Madame Gres. So that’s where that came from.This interview completely recontextualized Holdo in my head. Rian intended her to be flirting with Poe. She's giving him a shit test. In the middle of the war.
>>215483857You throw around Hollywood accounting yet you don't understand how it's used
>>215484074ST?
>>215484018The merchandise that nobody bought?
>>215483784>>215483843Disney had to declare costs to the UK government under penalty of perjury to get sweet 25% tax subsidies. It’s as close as it gets to true numbers.
>>215483940It had a troubled production. It didn't make much money at allThe merch was an objective loss. They ordered SO much and it didn't sell
>>215479555I'm baffled about living on the same planet as people who watch children's movies as adults but sadly we all have our burdens to bear.
>>215484074>Since launching Disney+ in 2019, the business has lost more than $11 billionYeah, Disney+ streaming profit is mind-boggling.
>>215484101>offers no explanation as to why it doesn't apply here>"y-you just don't know understand it's used!"Sure thing bud.
>>215479694>>215484585>>215483857He quotes Forbes and Disney had to declare costs to the UK government under penalty of perjury. This isn't a Hollywood studio's press release, retard.
>>215484187Sequel Trilogy
>>215484773P/Ls are reported to the IRS with arguably greater penalties, brownoid. The books being cooked to avoid taxation is the whole fucking point of the term. This was the worst possible response you could have given.
>>215484259There was an interview with the president of Diamond Toys (which did the Gentle Giant stuff) around April 2020 (so only some months after Episode 9 was out) where he was puzzled by the claim there was any demand for Sequel Trilogy stuff when the numbers didn't reflect ithttps://www.rebelscum.com/story/front/Rebelscumcom_Presents_The_2020_Gentle_Giant_Ltd_QA_186744.asp>CW: Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker hit theaters last December and it looks like there are just three pieces up for Pre-Order at this time…those being the Sith Trooper Mini Bust, the Kylo Ren Dreamer Premier Collection Statue and the Kylo Ren Legends in 3-Dimensions Bust. I would imagine there are some very requested characters, especially in the ever popular Mini Bust line, that fans would love to see. Names like Emperor Palpatine, Poe Dameron, Zorii Bliss, Babu Frik, Lando Calrissian, C-3PO and more. Can you speak on when we might see more characters from the final chapter in the 9-film Star Wars Saga?>CT: As I mentioned before, we are working on some, but I have to ask..are you SURE there is lots of demand for these “very” requested characters? The overall demand for busts and SW products is not what it was 10 or even 5 years ago. It's not just a GG issue either. The brand is VERY strong with The Mandalorian & The Clone Wars and more new content to come, but you all know what the production runs on collector products were in the past compared to now. We would very much love to make more products from the new movie. It’s not like we’re sitting behind our desk wringing our hands thinking how can we stick it to fans and not make busts they want that will make us money…right?? We just, as of yet, have not seen enough fans that would want to buy a bust have that personal affection for some of those new characters that makes sense to justify going to production, but for sure we’re watching it and perhaps as more time passes, fans affection for those characters will grow.
>>215484857Prove Forbes wrong with quotes and links, fucking retard.
>>215484773>they couldn't have lied because that would be dishonest
>>215484857Do you not know what “under threat of perjury” means when you’re reporting income and expenses to the taxman? There’s a reason corpos focus on creating loopholes in the tax code rather than straight up evade paying them
>>215484981He's retard shilling for Disney.
>>215484919>>215484981see >>215479694
>>215485007Nice quotes you got there. What exactly am I supposed to see in this generic wiki article?>>215484999Holy trips checked, and yeah I know but it’s fun fucking with them
>What exactly am I supposed to see in this generic wiki article, a term that's used to explain how people lie to the taxman? That's retarded. Nobody lies.
>>215485007
>>215479594>one billion drop
>I'm not seething you are!>trannyjak_jumping.gif>THIS IS YOU!>STOP SAYING DISNEY IS MAKES MONEY!
>>215485168>Order of the Phoenix on paper lost money so WB makes the decision to produce three more sequels>Rise of Skywalker on paper made a (small) profit so Disney makes the decision to not make a film with the IP for another six yearsMake it make sense you muppet
>>215479555>purple hair>brown dressI don't get why her dress is the most boring thing imaginable, like what was her design supposed to be?
For me it was when 2 POWEFUL WOMEN were both saying May the force be with you.But of course they couldn't just deliver the line with any sort of passion or excitement.It's like they know they are forced to include it but say it anyway like some kind of national anthem they don't believe in.
>>215485307>what was her design supposed to be?Tumblr feminist bravely standing up to Drumpft and the patriarchy
>>215485317yeah but when a green puppet says it, its just that much more powerful
>>215484075lmaoI love how every time anyone involved with this clusterfuck talks about literally any of the production it just makes sound it like an even bigger mess. Like when Rian talked about how he personally stamped on Kylo's mask because it wasn't broken enough, or when Mark talked about his initial reaction to the script.
>>215484458It made over $2 billion, which is an exaggerated figure for the box office. It brought in huge profits. Saying it didn't make much is kinda ridiculous.
>>215485254Order of the phoenix didnt completely destroy the IP and alienate the fanbase. One film may have lost money but they were making an entire series with merchandising and tie ins and whatnot, so it made sense to continue. It isnt about a single movie its about the mismanagement of the entire multi-billion dollar brand.>>2154831907 had its moments and even had its fair share of memes like "TRAITOR!" Of course everybody here hated it, its what we do best. Every problem that 7 had could be hand waived with the idea that the next film would be better and that Disney would find its footing with the IP, but that never happened and now its just a mediocre movie.
>>215485432Have you ever been on a project with a team of talented and passionate people but they are overruled at every step by senior leadership with no clue what they're doing and some strange strategic vendettas they inject into everything?
>>215485503Less than one billion in revenue you say? Minus whatever they lost on merchandise, easily in the millions
>yooo this movie made a box office record using inflated dollar figures and zero lasting cultural impact >yooo this franchise where 90% of the market value came from persisting products, merchandise suddenly losing all that value thanks to one movie doesn't mean the movie was bad>it made a lot of fake funny money, don't you know
>>215485995Cool it with the antisemitism
>>215481985it's a billion dollar company and it's disney. you should be bullied endlessly until you commit suicide for having such a dog shit opinion.
>>215479594Imaging thinking this is good
>>215484075>She's giving him a shit test. In the middle of the war.say what you like about Rian, he clearly knows how to write women
>>215479555>this characterThis is what happens when Disney jews + Kathleen Kennedy
>>215481660I'm glad someone is asking the important questions here
>>215479605Lemme get a basic gestalt on that.
>>215481143>theaters don't just show the movies for free and usually take 40-60%You are the dumbest black nigger gorilla in this thread. They get more off concessions than they do from box office, you fucking monkey idiot.
>>215484075>what is a mutinyCrews have revolted over less.
>>215479555I can’t believe she snapped her fingers right in Poes face>excuuuuuuse meeeeKinda rude
>>215485389Nah that was a boomers take on tumblr culture
>>215486702Lol look at the shill trying to act like an internet tough guy in order to lie his way through>IT'S JUST HOLLYWOOD ACCOUNTING BRAH>THEATERS DON'T GET ANY MONEY FROM THE BOX OFFICE BRAHAmazing how you dumb shills think anyone here is fooled
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>>215486432And you should go to therapy for getting this worked up over some fucking movie company.
>>215486815Again, you are a fucking nigger retard ape black monkey: https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/finance-expert-explains-movie-theaters-203601319.html
It seems like Holdo was actually supposed to be a flawed character and a bad leader, but the movie was just too retarded to convey it properly.
>>215486909Given the damage control from disney refused to give an inch over her, I doubt it.
>>215486871now this is lucas' true vision
>>215484171>abysmal
>>215479555>>215486855>>215486571>danger-haired granny dykeDisney really thought they were cookin with character LMFAO!
>>215485394Absolutely. Frank Oz is a fucking genius and he has more talent in his right pinky finger than the entire production crew to the sequels.
>>2154859257 was just a giant commercial for part 8, nothing more.
>>215479594>plane's altitude in the last 15 seconds>2000 meters>1300 meters>1000 metersYea plane is really struggling
>>215486855>female writerI'm not surprised
>>215485168Uh-oh, meltie!
>>215486906You didn't even read that article. Does Disney know you're also throwing around slurs a lot? I don't think they care for shills doing that
>>215486909Women in nuHollywood movies can't be flawed characters and bad leaders. They're Mary Sues. TLJ, ROS and the Acolyte killed Star Wars for their main audience - men.
>>215480782Why does Star Wars have so many Masters? >>215480806
>>215482033ehhh, less stupid than what we got. its a fun kinda stupid. something you'd actually watch again
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXFqTGBty1w
>>215480537Well received by tasteless morons.
>>215488235How insufferable.
>>215479594TRVTHNVKE bait
>>215488110i really dont understand modern writers and how stupid they are. i'm willing to give them some leeway though, especially considering all the outside pandering and changes they get from the suits and propagandists, trying to weigh in. they dont respect writers no more, actually i'm wondering if they ever did.
>>215479555
>>215479578K I N O
>>215483470>She spends most of her time running around acting like a feral savage with PMSCorrect. Pure Dark Side, the exact opposite of a Jedi.
>>215486891when you go to therapy do you tell them you always win your internet arguments? because from my perspective you lost to that other anon pretty badly and im just wondering if you are gonna actually be truthful in your next session
>>215479578Admiral Ackbar will live on forever and be remembered fondly, while this shit movie will rot and wither and only be spoken of in utter contempt.
I never saw any of the new Star Wars and I feel like I’ve missed out on absolutely nothing. I’ve absorbed enough through osmosis to know that it’s just layer after layer of shit contrived canon generated by focus groups and Hollywood ilk. Yet it resonates with people (NPCs?) for some reason. It’s like modern day mythology for these dullards, they find it so compelling and identifiable.
>>215479578I think "it's a trap" is too much, just let the audience put it together. But good idea otherwise. You're hired, kid.
>>215485007>Spamming one wikipedia article>t. dumbfuck
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>>215479594>Yeah, the Star Wars franchise is really struggling.>no new movies since TRoS six years ago
>>215479594>Yeah, the Star Wars franchise is really struggling.300 million or more marketing budget. Equal or greater shooting cost. Merchandise underperforms so badly it literally puts Toys-R-Us out of business and nearly kills Hasbro.George took a decade with Shadows of the Empire and the Specialized Editions of the OT to set up The Prequels. They didn't even make half the expected returned going off of them.
>>215480617>Mark Hamil>CamelIt's a baphomet Leviathan they make the prophetic good guy hero suck GREEN MILK (the same colour of his PHALLIC lightsaber) out of.
>>215489951>because from my perspective you lost to that other anon pretty badlykekthe only thing worse than a SWfag is a still obsessed mindbroken SWfag
>>215488659Whatever your thoughts on them, he’s absolutely not in director jail as claimed
>>215479578The better idea...Leia and Mon Mothma, played by Debbie Reynolds, are the last two on the ship. Only way to save is the ram maneuver which she recalls Han telling her about. They each hit the acceleration lever, she sees Han, but as a real ghost smiling at her, her last word..."hope".
>>215479594>Most hyped franchise of all time is losing hypeYeah it's dire
>>215479722This happens with every trilogy. The prequels also had a major fall off after being one of the first movies ever to hit a billion dollars
>>215479555Imagine being the lone competent white man in the writer's room who always ends up doing all the work, and one of the purple-haired girlbosses says, hey, what if we added a purple-haired girlboss, wouldn't audiences love it? and having to sit there and say, yes, brilliant, that sounds great, knowing that it isn't, and that audiences will hate it in Star Wars as much as they do in real life, and trying to quickly think of a way to get this across in the meeting without losing your job, knowing that the franchise is doomed otherwise
>>215479723Low-hanging fruit for the Trump admin
>>215479555i never watched star wars i only know her as diane in twin peaks
>>215480537Payola conduit, reward for upsetting the chudsBut they're still TV movies
>>215486909It just seems that way because it was a character written by women. A woman did her absolute best to write a great leader, and this is what she came up with. The problem is that women confuse good leadership with being an obnoxious bossy cunt who never justifies her decisions to anybody or asks anyone else for input, then ends up literally crashing and burning in the end.To women, Holdo is an amazing leader but their idea of leadership is utterly retarded.
>>215479594The fact they haven't released a Star Wars movie since RoS and cancelled like 20 planned projects tells you all you need to know. Disney greatly overprojected how much value they would get out of the IP.
>>215485146>bro you only made 1 billion lmao what a loserhave sex, incel
>>215492039Knives Out wasn’t and the sequels only wound up being made by Netflix because they bid $450 million for the rights
>>215492142What woman? The film was written by a man
>>215492001You don’t know her from Jurassic Park or Blue Velvet or Wild at Heart?
Have they made back the money they paid Lucas yet?
>>215492324Solo bombing was when they absolutely panicked. All the hype was gone by that point, and they switched to Disney+ in an attempt to hide how little people cared about their new crap. The list of cancelled films is absolutely hilarious. Ryan Gosling and the Snood movie will likely never see the light of day (and that's a good thing)
>>215492564Not if you count money lost on Disney+ and the hotel. But it was never about the money, was it?
based. star wars is for delusional redit chuds anyway
>>215484018>merchandiseYou mean the billions of toys nobody wanted and how it killed toyrus ?
>>215480198someone should've told JJ that before he ripped off ANH's plot and brought back all the OT characters as geriatrics
This movie should've killed careers, most notably Rian Johnson, for example. The fact some people would consider this a masterpiece tells me there is something fundamentally wrong with our culture and species.
>>215492324>Disney greatly overprojected how much value they would get out of the IPThey didn't overvalue it. They could have gotten 20 billion out of it. Why didn't they? They gave it to man-hating, nerd-hating, starwars-hating buffoons to just make up any random shit story on the fly. They figured they can insult the entire original fanbase and drive it away then a brand new amazing female/tranny fanbase would appear magically and buy all their merch and see all their films. It's the bungle of the century and was completely avoidable. They could have given star wars to someone like Peter Jackson to make three movies with a solid, pre-planned coherent story and he'd have knocked it out of the park
The thing about this is that there wasn't really a good reason not to tell Poe the plan, on the flipside after Poe committed mutiny which resulted in the deaths of many people he should have been court-martialed and executed.
>>215493171The fact that none of this Nu Wars trash was nominated for Razzies says a lot about how deep the corruption goes.
>>215479555>OP got trips>555Standing by...
>>215493274My buddy Brian used to game master Star Wars tabletop back in the early 00s, and he would have written an amazing trilogy.
>>215479555But the character didn't, the movie did.
