The US government wants to capture Pennywise and use him as a weapon against the Soviets.To do this, they need to acquire the shards from the meteorite he landed on earth in, which will allow them to control him.In order to do this, they decide to use Leroy Hanlon, a Korean war veteran who suffered a brain injury that makes him impervious to fear. The Hanlon family is sent to Derry. Pennywise discovers Hanlon's mission and invulnerability and seeks to destroy him.Pennywiss begins manipulating the town into turning against the Hanlon family. The kids try to stop him, but it culminates in a racist massacre.Pennywise also slaughters most of the town's population, and mind wipes the survivors into forgetting he exists, winning in the end.
>>215481571This is so stupid, doesnt Pennywise just straight up kill adults out of the gate because most adults are not afraid of him?
Realistic premise but I bet the execution will be absolute shit like everything else out now.
>>215481887No, he avoids targeting adults because they're not afraid of him although I'm sure if he wanted to, he could scare adults easily
>>215481571>use pennywise as a weapon against the sovietsHow? Is he gonna use russian fear to turn into a giant kaiju like pic related and stomp all over moscow?
>>215482007He targets adults through adult fears like cancer, ageing, abusive spouses, rape, bankrupcyBut they're less direct threats, so there's not as much he can do
>>215482007He doesn't need fear to operate, even if you're not afraid of giant monster it still fucks you up
>>215482163>bro is that an uncontrollable evil entity or wild animal?>that's just the thing we need to upgrade our arsenal of aircraft carriers, nuclear missiles, and stealth bombersI hate this shit
>>215482223He doesn't need fear but he kills to eat and fear is what he uses to "salt" the meat. If he is killing without fear, it means he is desperate, for example, the faggot he kills at the start of the second movie.
>>215481571>Cant even best a bunch of 12 year olds>Government expects him to win the soviet warLmao
>US Govt. captures Pennywise and uses him as a spy/assassin against the soviets>During this time Pennywise is forced to take a consistent human guise and interact with other officers/agents of the Govt.>Heavy implication that the USSR was actually a near-utopia until Pennywise began to spread paranoia and fear amongst it's leaders>Throughout the season he grows romantically involved with the female agent assigned to be his handler as she begins to see the man behind the monster>In the season finale, after a passionate sex scene with his true form, the pair kill the racist govt. agent overseeing the program and then escape into the soviet countryside together>Guillermo del Toro presents; The Shape of Laughter
>>215482502Wasn't it stated that the reason he struggled against the kids was because the cosmic turtle kept interfering?
>prequel>plot is about defeating the big bad guy from the original filmGee, I wonder how it ends? It reminds me about all the times I was on the edge of my seat watching Better Call Saul wondering whether or not he'd be able to stay alive when dealing with all those scary cartel guys...
>>215482007Iirc he sees fear in different ways with adults and it causes incidents throughout Derry history. At one point one of the characters is reading about some kind of riot in Derry and sees Pennywise in the window in a photograph of the riot with a rifle shooting at people, then when he looks back it's a normal person. The book suggest Pennywise does impact adults, similarly to how Salem's Lot worked. It's a corrosive force that fucks them up. It can't just turn into a spider or a clown to scare adults but it can fuck with their heads.
>>215481571I would rather watch It try to infiltrate the Soviet Union.
>>215481571Based CEO of Racism Pennywise.
>>215481571Weird that they known about his existence for years and didn't do shit about it. Just let him kill and eat children. Really makes you think.
>>215481571I’m sorry anon I refuse to believe this. Even if I watch it when it airs tomorrow and it is word-for-word what you’ve said I’ll still refuse to believe it because it’s so goddamn retarded
>>215481571>pennywise goes after adults by feeding off their fear>he turns into a black family that moves next door
>>215481571He's literally me.
>>215481571This would work better for a Jason Voorhees movie Government has Pam’s sweater and now can boss Jason around Send him to Mexico to kill narcoterrorists
no sophno watch
>I could be a monster but I'm not a racist! I kill racist!This is like when the joker told red skull that he can be a psychopath but of course he'll never be a nazi in that comic
>>215481571This sounds so fucking stupid that I have no doubt it's true.
>>215482007Except the book literally opens with him killing an adult
>>215482812Yeah it does pop out and say boo to adults it literally turns them rotten against each other like when the guys killed that gay dude or the man who kills his boy with a hammer (I'm reading the book rn)
>>215481571>Pennywise a commie WTF a sympathetic Pennywise?
>>215483844HE WAS 5 YEARS OLD YA SICK FUCK
>>215483438It's just Stranger Things
>US military bad>dude racism>evil wins anyway
>>215482244For the same reason I will never understand why Weyland Yutani wants the xenomorphs so bad. You dumb fucks have interstellar warships, nukes, and, androids… why do you want a slightly more dangerous tiger?
>>215483985I think the idea is you let a bunch of Xenomorphs loose inside a space station and they quickly clean the place out, then you recall them back to their cages and do whatever you were going to do with your new empty space station.I'd say the bigger problem isn't "let's use Xenomorphs as a weapon" - the Space Jockeys were doing that from day 1 - but rather Weyland Yutani has no rival or enemy that makes Xenomorphs justified. They're the most powerful megacorp, with enough control of traditional governments to use bioweapons and human experimentation, and yet they still want Xenomorphs as weapons to use them on ?????
>>215483985Or the Jurassic World franchise wanting to weaponize raptors. What's a dinosaur going to do against a drone strike? You could probably take one down with a decent rifle, that's just never shown in the movies because everybody with a gun is made incompetent for the sake of the story.
>>215481571Bad End Stranger Things then?
>>215483438>>215483842It sounds like campy fun
>>215484312LE HECKIN' RACISM ISN'T CAMPY FUN, NAZI
>>215481571Considering how IT operates, there's no fucking way the U.S. government would even know IT exists. IT also isn't physically in Derry or our universe. The spider monster is just another projection.
>>215484128You could just do that with marines. You can't even make the argument that the xenos wouldn't damage the infrastructure, because their blood is a magical acid that eats through everything. "Xenos would be cheaper!", because breeding and feeding them would be so inexpensive, right? Using them as a weapon is asinine no matter what. However, using them to harvest their acid blood or some other useful aspect of their unique anatomy makes actual sense. Their teeth are metal, right? An organic metal that can be grown in vats would be pretty useful.
>>215484197War isn't just dropping bombs. As far as in-universe logic goes, why wouldn't they? Raptors are smarter, deadlier, more organized than dogs, and are capable of complex communication and strategizing a la orcas. Ingen or whoever can just genes selectively modified for maximum obedience and trainability. The raptors in JW weren't the end goal, they were just the first step to exploring the possibility. RLM got hung up on the laser pointer thing with the indoraptor (hurr, just use bullets), when if Mike would have actually looked up while jerking off to pictures of Patrick Stewart on his phone, he might have caught that the Indo was a prototype, and the laser pointer thing was just a rudimentary proof-of-concept to show that it was capable of instruction.
>>215484355The government probably has some idea that a really dangerous and powerful creature lives under Derry, they just don't know exactly what it is. The events of this series will probably be used to explain why Pennywise operates more discreetly in the films.
>>215484524Thats silly. NO ONE knows there's something affecting the town or its inhabitants. The kids are only able to detect it because a magic space turtle helps them. Also, IT isn't living under Derry, the fucker doesn't even exist inside our universe.JUST MAKE SOMETHING NEW OR DON'T MAKE ANYTHING AT ALL GODDAMN IT.
>>215481571>The US government wants to capture Pennywise and use him as a weapon against the Soviets.???? the fuck?
>>215484128This is stupid as fuck
>>215484482There's an argument to be made that Marines aren't as efficient as Xenomorphs at what might be called 'orbital urban combat'. Xenomorphs are better adapted to spaceships. Marines are actually the cheaper option in this case, while Xenomorphs would be expensive and difficult to train but if successful then they'd clean house unless the space station was properly defended. And even then, a small group of Xenomorphs can and will defeat a group of Marines.
>>215483932The US Military is objectively bad though
>>215484128We have plenty of animals we could do that with now and we don't. We could breed lions to attack rioters in small towns and probably could jam electroshock probes in their brain to make them stop when we want, but there is no point to it.
>>215484870But why are they bad in Hollywood movies? Is it because they have bases where they don't belong? Conduct extrajudicial killings? Topple legitimate governments?No, because they want some new exotic weapon that's actually worse than weapons they already have.
>>215484128>"let's use Xenomorphs as a weapon" - the Space Jockeys were doing that from day 1we don't know that
>>215484905I mean, they obviously would want it to perpetuate everything you just said.
>it's another "the military wants to weaponize this dangerous and unwieldy thing" episode
Its from the same guy who made IT chapter 2. anything is possible. He went full retard with the sequel so its not surprising he would do it here.
>>215484917They probably were, but it was less a weapon beneficial to a corporate entity and more a genocide option. Scott clearly thought this because that's exactly what David used it for. Once you drop that bullshit on a planet there will be nothing left after a few years. It'll just be over. That would actually make it pretty worthless unless your sole intent was complete and unambiguous genocide.>>215484482Is correct it just would require a scene these retards won't write. >do you have any idea how useful organic materials immune to acid, growable metal, and rapid growth in cells are? If we can extract these things we own the entire medical and manufacturing industries for eternity
>>215481571>The US government wants to capture Pennywise and use him as a weapon against the SovietsRetarded.>To do this, they need to acquire the shards from the meteorite he landed on earth in, which will allow them to control him.Retarded.>Pennywiss begins manipulating the town into turning against the Hanlon family. The kids try to stop him, but it culminates in a racist massacre.And a convenient way to make a story about an evil space spider that eats children about LE RACISM instead. Fantastic.
>>215485001>probablyheadcanon>that's exactly what David used it forhe wants to create "the perfect organism" not just a weapon
>>215483985plausible denability
My plot would be we want to capture pennywise to fuck him
>>215485053David used an Engineer ship housing a containment of black shit on that Retard Engineer planet he found in that shitty sequel no one watched. He uses it to kill everyone there for reasons.
>>215485098he uses the black goo not the fucking alien (which doesn't exist yet)
>we will never see a true adaption of the bookbums me out. the tv series was good but neutered. the first movie was better but ruined by the modern jump scares. chapter 2 was a fucking mess being an example of something ruined by its own success ala freddys dead.
One of my favorite tropes is when shit that's portrayed as IRL with a fantasy/sci fi/horror bend attracts the government or large players>when the FBI run a sting on Jason Voorhees and tenderize him with bullets>they're also in Final Destination but wisely cast a nerdy looking office guy as the main FBI dude so you know he's no help (he's also almost named Weiner lol)>the President gets involved in BvS which should happen more often when superheroes are fighting a supervillain in a major US cityThere's more and better examples out there. I WOULD like to know the first guy that was like>an evil shapeshifter clown terrorizing our town and children? get me a line to the god damn white house, eisenhower's gonna wanna hear thisAlso wouldn't Pennywise want more fear in the world? Perhaps the US would strike an actual deal that would allow him enough autonomy while still doing his thing against the evil Soviet children. He'd probably get a medal.
>>215481571>The US government wants to capture Pennywise and use him as a weapon against the Soviets.Isn't that the premise of Stranger Things?
>>215483985I like that in Romulus, the point wasn’t to use them as weapons but to splice their DNA into people to make them better workerslaves.
>>215485090*her
>>215482631>Throughout the season he grows romantically involved with the female agent assigned to be his handler as she begins to see the man behind the monsterPennywise is a female spider monster, he lays eggs, at least in the 1990 TV series.
>>215484584>The kids are only able to detect it because a magic space turtle helps themIn this series, the government uses the kid from the Shining to find Pennywise. Should have mentioned that in the OP
>>215484482What if an autistic Zoomer girl in a synth body befriended the Xenos?[*90s alt rock music starts playing*]
>>215485015>And a convenient way to make a story about an evil space spider that eats children about LE RACISM instead. Fantastic.That's what literally happens in the book though
>>215484956Clearly Hollywood has been using AI programs to come up with story ideas for a while.
>>215481571This is a fun premise so I don't beleive you
>>215481571In a boardroom somewhere, an executive producer is wondering >but how can we make this about the evils of racism?
>>215485284>Pennywise is a female spider monster, he lays eggs, at least in the 1990 TV series.That explains why he's such a fucking retard that got defeated by literal kids.
>>215483985>>215484128>>215485098>>215485169The Alien franchise is moving towards "They aren't valuable because they're pit bulls that are somehow smart enough to turn door knobs, they're valuable because they're ultra complex genetically engineered artifacts of an interstellar civilization"Like the hope isn't to tame them and deploy them, it's to test them and dissect them and learn entire new paradigms of science to invent immortality and cancer cures and unbreakable alloys and sheeit, as if they were some sort of super poisonous magic rainforest flowerAs much as people hate nu alien, that angle feels more plausible to me than turning them into Tactical Assault Gorillas (especially when fucking synths exist and would be terrific at that role)
>>215485289yoooou say>autistic girl smileswe've got nothing in common>slimy dripping xenomorph bares teeth
>>215484943Except for the >actually worse than weapons they already havepart.Pennywise has no advantages over conventional weapons or traditional WMDs. Why would you try to weaponize a clown demon that eats fear?
>>215485298They don't need AI for this shit, all they need is to keep doing the same shit and failing again and again at it which is what they're doing. Alien has spun its wheels since Henriksen cried about monetizing aliens and Ripley jumped into that lava in 1991.
>>215481571Clowns just arent scary to me anymore
>>215482007what adult wouldn't be afraid of a spider bigger than a car trying to eat them?
So let me get this straight: the clown can only be defeated with teen orgy?
>>215484888>We could breed lions to attack rioters in small townstrips of not a bad idea actually
>>215485442Why do you keep posting this? No one fucking cares she was too far gone she rightfully became a part of TTD.
>>215485476thats not a good sign anon, thats how it starts, first you no longer see clowns as satanic abominations then before you know it youre clowning arround, cant even explain how it got that far but theres no going back at that point, youll be clowning arround till the clowning gets done, stop now befor the point of no return anon, be weary of the clown, dont listen to it
>>215484956>It's another "midwit tries to reason that something being dangerous and difficult means that it will never yield long-term benefits, and should never even be attempted" episodeIf everyone thought like you, we'd still be huddled in terror around fires at night pointing sharp sticks at noises in the dark.
>>215482244>bureaucratic institution wants to harness some unstoppable monstrosity for their own banal pursuits>they succeedtruly my favorite trope, is it not man's innate desire to control?
the true monster was racism all along
>>215485641You say that like it would be a bad thing.
>>215481571>a Korean war veteran who suffered a brain injury that makes him impervious to fear.Stupid as fuck.
>>215485511Small spiders makes me run away like a terrified child, but one as big as a car? Nukes! And lots of them!!!!
>>215483752This
>>215481571>The US government wants to capture Pennywise and use him as a weapon against the Soviets.>To do this, they need to acquire the shards from the meteorite he landed on earth in, which will allow them to control him.Literally ripped off from Charles Stross' A Colder War where the US and USSR duke it out with Shoggoths and Cthulhu and shit.
Why does the government know about Pennywise? Doesn't he attack every 30 years or so? Who in the military said "Hey, back in the 50s I think there was a scary clown in Maine. Maybe we can use that?" >>215483752>>215485770So true
americans get your shit togetherthis sounds like abject, unwatchable trash
>>215485998Showrunner is an Argentine of Italian descent
>>215485297You're thinking of Bag of Bones.
>>215485998There’s a high probability that op is just pulling this out of his ass
>>215485808Stranger Things did this plot too
>>215483552That'd actually be a great gag for Scary Movie.>WASP in a gated white community out raking leaves>Looks over and sees a black man and his wife carrying furniture into the house next door>*violin sting*>He looks again and now it's Pennywise holding a severed limb or something>Breathes a sigh of relief
>>215486163yes and?crush his legs
>>215481571>it's truehttps://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/hbos-new-it-welcome-to-derry-series-completely-ruins-stephen-kings-epic/>The series’ set-up riffs on its source material in ways both big and small, complete with numerous references aimed at the King faithful (including nods to turtles, Shawshank prison, and Calumet Baking Powder) and the participation of The Shining’s Dick Hallorann (Chris Chalk), whose psychic gifts are being used by Shaw to locate a “weapon” buried somewhere in Derry.>Specifically, the U.S. military intends to capture Pennywise and sic him on the Russians and Cubans in order to prevent the forthcoming missile crisis and win the Cold War. To control the monster, which they barely understand, they must acquire the 13 “pillars”—rock shards from the “cage” in which it traveled to Earth millions of years ago—that have the power to contain it à la kryptonite, and whose whereabouts have been protected for centuries by a Native American population that’s acted as humanity’s selfless guardians.>Leroy is the apparent key to this covert scheme, because he’s suffered a brain injury that’s left him unable to feel fear.
>>215485664>the british are the bad guys because... they want to trade, execute thieves and rapists and tame the supernatural elements of the world to make the seas safer for everyone!what did disney mean by this?
>>215481571Neat fanfic.
>>215486465>>215486491?
>>215484870>objectively badMaybe for you, faggot.That makes it subjectively bad.
>>215486545It's true, see >>215486450
>>215486450lol I wasn't expecting anything great but this is so fucking retarded it borders on malevolent incompetence
>>215485476Turns out the cure for a phobia really is to fuck it.
All of this could have been prevented if they let Fukunaga direct the movie.
>>215487379>Maybe for you, faggot.>That makes it subjectively bad.No, you're literally a slave in service to actual literal demonic forces
>>215482244To be fair to the JW movies if you got the indoraptors right they would be terrifying as a ground based weapon and denial of access to your enemies>intelligent>strong>large but not so large that they can't fit inside buildings>hands to manipulate things with>thick hide highly resistant to gun fire>wuu wanted them to be able to camouflage like the Indominus>given orders to target specific individuals
I bet this was originally some Lovecraft inspired "the government discovers Cthulhu during the Cold War" story, and they just shoved Pennywise into it.
>>215487858Probably, you know how these things are>studio is buying up scripts>studio also wants a TV show of this IP>well what if we take this script for this sci fi horror show and give it a coat over of this ipSame shit as what happened with evil dead rise>direct to vod possession in an apartment movie>gets given a coating of the evil dead with a swallow your soul here and a necromonicon there>slap Ramis name on it>bam straight to vod small budget movie is now making cash in theaters
>>215486450>native americans hoard the only thing that can stop Pennywise while letting him murder countless people>"humanity's selfless guardians"
>>215486450>What if we use ALL the terrible clichés?
It's weird because the book has a perfectly serviceable "racism bad" story to adapt, if you're into that kinda thing.
What makes the "let's use Pennywise against Russians and Cubans to stop the missile crisis" is we did stop the Missile Crisis in real life, without Pennywise. Making all this pointless.It's like those 'the hero has to stop WW1 from happening' plots we saw for a bit in Sherlock Holmes and League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. WW1 did happen. They didn't stop anything. It's not tragic, it's a shaggy dog story. Have them stop something else.
>>215487858>I bet this was originally some Lovecraft inspired "the government discovers Cthulhu during the Cold War" story, and they just shoved Pennywise into it.>>215485808>Literally ripped off from Charles Stross' A Colder War where the US and USSR duke it out with Shoggoths and Cthulhu and shit.
>>215481571so they're doing stranger things? cool
>>215481571>Racist massacre There it is. More cringe libtard shit incoming.
>>215487831>thick hide highly resistant to gun fireif this were true, they would just raise them to skin them and make flak jackets out of their leather. in reality no animal on earth is "bullet resistant"; the smallest bullets have more energy than the most powerful longbow arrows
>>215488572To be fair, Stephen King was one of the pioneers of "racism is the ultimate evil" libshit messaging. In fact, you could make a strong argument he's patient zero for it.
>>215481571wonder if they skip the train again
>>215488615King's brand of anti-racism is so outdated that its ironically racist by today's standards. He looooves his magical negroes.
>>215488966He also loves living nowhere near black people kek
>>215488615King is from Maine and has probably met 3 blacks in his entire life. >>215488966He can be on the nose and annoying, but he's never bothered me with his political leanings. He is an old man and no matter what people say about him, he has written some fascinating stories and everyone likes at least one.
>>215481571Please let this be real. It's so fucking stupid.
>>215485511I’d charge the fucking thing with the nearest weapon to hand. Either I kill it, and I become a hero, or my name is remembered for ever as the first man who was ever eaten by a giant spider.
>>215481571All horror series need at least ONE delta green type movie where the government tries to capture them to use as a weapon.
>>215486487It's the East India company, they were comically evil in large part because they had a navy stronger than most countries including England.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars
>>215488966Libtards hate him for using words like "niggers" and "faggots" so much in his books. Because god forbid a racist bad guy would ever dare to say that.
>>215481887>>215482007>>215482164Yeah in the book, Pennywise basically says scaring adults is a pain in the ass compared to kids. Grownups have complex fears - they don’t believe in monsters anymore. Kids are easy to scare, so that’s what he/it does. It’s way easier to shape shift into a Werewolf and scare the piss out of 12 year olds. How do you even shapeshift into a house forclosure, getting fired from a job, or whatever shit scares grownups
>>215484980>He went full retard with the sequelPeople say this but the two movies are of the same quality.
>>215481571do we get the orgy or not?
>>215481571Sounds like a Hellboy plot
>>215486450How does sitting on anti-pennywise-onium instead of using it against the thing make you "selfless guardians"
>>215481571i hate this design so much
>>215481571How is Steven King not deadm he sleeps on a bed of cocaine and jumps in front of moving cars for "book ideas".
>>215489002>King is from Maine and has probably met 3 blacks in his entire life.That's the thing. King is from New England, and utterly hates the whole region. Every single small town is a den of absolute evil, full of racism and bullies and probably a clown.And you could go on down the list of various boomer paranoias.
>>215481571>To do this, they need to acquire the shards from the meteorite he landed on earth in, which will allow them to control him.How do they know this?
>>215482244At least in shit like Resident Evil, the Tyrants are actually very effective weapons, going by Mr. X and Nemesis. The zombies and stuff are just an unfortunate by-product of their development that unintentionally leaked out into the public.
>>215489718That's easy. During the Wounded Knee Massacre, a Native American shaman dying of blood lost told the general about it.
>>215489732Ah, ok. Makes sense.Thanks anon.
>>215481571this is just the right amount of stupid where i can believe it without checking any other source
why doesn't king do a dark tower show instead of milking it again
>>215485976i like her with short hair, but before she cut it she looked absolutely DIVINE
>>215489843A magical boogeyman in a realistic town is an easier premise to work with than whatever fantasy setting dark tower is .
>>215486450Jesus, it's like all the worst aspects of modern writing jammed into one show.They even have to collect the Infinity Pennywise Stones.
>>215483985The movies never show it but Alien Isolation did a great job with the alien focusing only on lore from the first movie, like a single alien was enough to cause an entire space station with hundreds of people to fall apart and a single alien is so durable it can survive in the vacuum of space without any issue.
>>215481571>it culminates in a racist massacreYep, it's kamala-core alright...
>>215484658From the sounds of it it’s just Starger Things season 1.
>>215489718They use Dick Hallorann from the Shining.
>>215489996I just checked IMDB and figured he was who you meant. Thanks for the serious reply fren
>>215484980>everyone is gay>one of their friends suicides not out of fear but to help unite the group and kill the monster (?)>kill monster by just calling him a faggot
>>215486450>a Native American population that’s acted as humanity’s selfless guardianthis can't be real
>>215482244There's a guy on /toy/ who will argue with you for hours if you want about how dinosaurs make more sense for the military to use than robots
>>215488024Exact same shit happened with Cloverfield, all the movies have zero connection to each other but desperate directors try to shove some sort of relevancy to save a mediocre movie
People don’t realize that the reason pennywise is limited to the town and mainly targets children whilst rarely attacking adults is because he’s literally the bottom of the food chain when it comes to monsters in his universe. He’s so easily defeatable when a prepared group fights him that he has to run away the majority of the time.
>>215490298Isn't he actually a shard of one half of the universe's yin-yang, with the other being the Turtle?
>>215489379That makes no sense, any adult would be immediately scared by some murderous raging werewolf rushing at them, or even just some lanky slenderman like figure
>>215483842Stephen King adaptations are often more criminally stupid than they're given credit for because almost no one actually reads the source material. Almost no one knows that Pennywise is also the "Big Bad" of The Dark Tower series known as the Crimson King, who in the final act of the dark tower, fights off the Hero, Roland, by throwing explosive Harry Potter snitches at him. Yes literally Harry Potter snitches. Stephen King is a hack and I'm still mad I wasted my time reading The Dark Tower for that payoff. If I weren't in jail while reading it I never would have bothered finishing it.
>>215482244>This might make a really big explosion but it might also ignite the entire World's atmosphere>Well what are you waiting for we've gotta do it before the Gheris do.
>>215488578You haven't seen badgers.
>>215490517The Crimson King is a different entity, not the same one
>>215490653That's been retconned in the lastest King novels. It's revealed that the Crimson King and the Spider are both entities controlled by the Orange Emperor.
>>215490653In Insomnia, near the end in the chapter "In the court of the crimson king", Crimson King reveals he's a shapeshifter and says something like, "Shapeshifting is a tradition in Derry!" Or some shit like that. I refuse to read any more King novels so can you explain how this doesn't directly implicate Pennywise as being Crimson King?
>>215489843dark tower has substantial issues for adaptation. most notably, one of the main characters is a black schizophrenic wheelchair bound woman
Why has there never been a movie where a military weaponizes one of these guys. Imagine them putting Mike Myers in cryostasis and air dropping him in Beijing. It can be both a fish out of water movie and also an epic horror movie. Maybe even a romance arc where the language barrier is overcome
>>215490452If they're a schizo maybeMost adults would think it's some youtube influencer in a halloween costume or some dipshit furry who did too much drugs at a local conventionThey wouldn't quiver in fear, they'd get in their car and call the policeKids react differently to immediate threats like that. You tell them some furry on fent is a hungry werewolf and they'll believe it and run in terror