NOOOO IT'S MAKING FUN OF YOU CHUDS YOU CAN'T LIKE IT
But they made him cool, What part was supposed to be bad about him?
>>215484842cool it withthe anti-Semitic remarks.
>>215484842I've seen more cases of death of the author in recent months than true media illiteracy
>>215484842We need a reboot of American Psycho where patrick gets raped, this is the only way to stop these incels from idolizing him
>>215484842Wall Street bros are actual psychopaths, it's just that IRL they're all Jews, not White Anglos like Bateman. They don't see anything wrong with his behavior as long as it's directed against goyim.
>>215484842us chuds are all secretly gay
>>215484842People realize it's satire but they still like the sigma vibe. Simple as.
>>215484842>gays are just normal people like you and me>YOU LIKE SOMETHING THAT CAME FROM A GAY MANS BRAIN! You sick fuck!I have always had a soft spot for leftists using Gayness as the hardest slur they can think of
>>215484913>death of the authorSubversion, "everyone is gay and/or troon because I think so" type of shit
>Gay mans satire
>>215484955I'm not closeted tho
>>215484887>What part was supposed to be bad about him?Narcissism, extreme vanity, obsession with physical appearance, materialism, status obsession, social conformity, emotional emptiness, lack of genuine empathy, inability to form authentic relationships, superficiality, competitiveness to the point of pathology, envy of colleagues, racism, misogyny, homophobia, classism, violence toward women, murder, torture, sadism, psychopathy, inability to distinguish reality from fantasy, delusions, unreliability as a narrator, moral bankruptcy, obsession with business cards, obsession with designer labels, inability to appreciate art or music beyond surface level, pretentiousness, following trends mindlessly, fear of being ordinary, insecurity masked by arrogance, inability to be genuine, lack of self-awareness, cruelty to animals, inability to feel real emotions, compartmentalization of heinous acts, treating people as objects, judging others purely on appearance and status, lack of individuality despite claiming uniqueness, conformity to Wall Street culture, greed, self-absorption, inability to listen to others, viewing relationships as transactional, disposability of people in his life, need for constant validation, fragile ego, rage issues, lack of impulse control, depravity, amorality, hedonism without genuine pleasure, existential emptiness, identity crisis, performing a role rather than being authentic, inability to connect with humanity, complete absence of redemptive qualities, obsession with perfection, rigidity in routines, anxiety about social standing, paranoia, deteriorating mental state, inability to accept his own insignificance, failure to achieve any meaningful existence
>>215484842Maybe women and gays don't understand masculinity as much as they think they do?
>>215485034wow he's literally me
>>215485034thats all based though
>>215485034That’s literally me
>>215485034He's like me for real.
>>215484842i'm sure the book one is super gay and lame but the female director made him cool
>>215484842If he's making fun of me, why do I relato him so much? My pain is also constant and sharp and I don't wish for a better world for anyone.
>>215484913>>215484842>>215485048I was aware that Bret Easton Ellis is a very gay dude and American Psycho has some transparent lolcapitalismbad themesSo honestly I was fucking astonished to listen to him lately; not that he particularly likes Trump, but that he hates the Democratic Party, Kamala Harris, "Liberals" and "Leftists," etc.https://www.worldofreel.com/blog/2025/10/9/bret-easton-ellis-says-critics-only-love-one-battle-after-another-for-its-politics-its-not-a-very-good-movie>>215484930Ellis already wrote a sequel to American Psycho 20 years ago where Bateman dies in a housefire and he said he did it specifically because he didn't like the psychic power the fictional character had amassed, like Wes Craven's New Nightmare
>>215484842Chuds are wall street douchebags now? Man that word means absolutely nothing.
>>215485135Elon Musk is somehow an incel despite having like three ex-wives and 14 retardedly named kids
>>215485158It's insane how much these people love ruining language, chud, nazi, racist, gender, woman and it goes on and on.
>>215485158all his children are from IVF because his dick is deformed. most of his antisocial disorders come from his inability to fuck
>>215485201>seething about chuds>lack of punctuation and capitalization discord troon confirmed
>>215485201How do you know what his dick looks like?
>>215484955i like to fuck men in the ass and get dick in the ass. but iam not gay though.
>>215485034God forbid a character has few minor flaws, jeez.
>>215484974that's like how they tacitly show their own racism if you let them>black people can't make it unless we give them gibes they need the state to babysit them and we also don't hold them to the same standard of responsibility or accountability as white people
>>215484842These bullshitters always play dumb when they know, that we know, that they chose an incredibly charismatic actor for a fucking reason. Masculine charisma. Otherwise nobody would be watching and talking about it for countless years. How many women watch it and desire to fuck him? Countless as well. But they only target and blame the male fans of whatever it is, meanwhile the women are creamin their pussies over em.
>>215484842The remake of American Psycho has Margot Robbie in the role
>people who do entertainment/art for a living can't figure out "death of the author," a concept I learned in 4th grade
>>215485034literally me bros....
>>215484842>NOOOO IT'S MAKING FUN OF YOU CHUDS YOU CAN'T LIKE ITConfirmed for not having read the book, she nailed its point you autist
>>215484842Isn't the same with fight club?, the whole story boils down to the protagonist rejecting Tyler's bullshit adter realizing all he really wanted was connecting with another person
>>215484887>But they made him cool,in literally what fucking way? he was a self-involved metrosexual account man with no real interests, who stared into his own eyes during sex.
>>215484930Margot robbie is in talks to star in a remake (seriously)
>>215485034calm down libtard, its called having a personality.
>>215485438what does it matter? can you only read things you agree with? what a weird dogmatic rigid way to live your live.
>>215484842it's a satire of 80's yuppies and doesn't really hold up when applied to "finance bros", that industry has changed so much and the equivalent now is like guys that love barstool sports
>>215485190In some ways it's good because it completely neuters the power of words like racist and sexist.
>>215485514That's cool, dumb libtard
>>215485122>So honestly I was fucking astonished to listen to him lately; not that he particularly likes Trump, but that he hates the Democratic Party, Kamala Harris, "Liberals" and "Leftists," etc.many democrats are broadly aware that the DNC intentionally throws elections when it benefits them financially, and that democrat frontrunners are mostly neoliberal frauds. most leftists (of any reading) hated Kamala for being a state prosecutor until the millisecond she became the appointed candidate.
IT'S HIP TO BE SQUARE
Patrick Bateman is all of us. We're all insecure, we all think someone else has it better, we all want to kill people every now and again and we all need to return some videotapes. It's just the human condition.
>>215484842This is why satire just doesn't work as a form of criticism or even mockery. People will just take from it what they want and focus on that while ignoring the critique. Just look at 'America, Fuck Yeah!' from Team America. It is EXPLICITLY making fun of american exceptionalism and hyper consumerism but fucktards are celebrating it uncritically.
>>215484842You know a piece of media is truly memetic when it gains popularity over time instead of losing it. This movie came out 25 fuckin years ago, and it's arguably more popular than it ever was currently.
>>215485756falls flat when creators are participating in the same shit they're supposedly critiquing
>>215484842>Character made to mock the chuds is embraced by the chudsMany such cases
We know because it was a female directorand a faggot actor.Not complicated.
>>215484842Retarded journalists complain about people not realizing that the movie is satire without themselves realizing that the bateman memes are all ironic. They see that clip of bateman walking with the headphones and the caption is something like "me on my way to get olives from the fridge at 2 am" and they think it's an uncritical celebration of bateman's toxic masculinity or whatever, meanwhile everyone who isn't retarded understands that it's just dumb self-deprecating humor.
>>215485845And its own director is upset over it, at least partly. She is an bullshitter feminist and I will demonstrate this. They always blame and single out male fans. Never the women. Coincidentally its a female director. This silly woman's comment is part of the whole decade-long (at the least) astroturfed current wave of anti-male propaganda and generalized anti-male admonishments throughout all media. She does this to obtain praise from her deranged comrades. Look her up. She identifies herself as feminist. And a Choice quote:>I feel that without feminism, I wouldn't be doing this. So I feel very grateful. Without it, God knows what my life would be. I don't make feminist films in the sense that I don't make anything ideological. But I do find that women get my films better. Women and gay men. Maybe because they're less threatened by it, or they see what I'm trying to say better.Haha see, she doesn't make ideological films!!Another wonderful quote!>She also felt that, unlike American directors, she was not "a moralistic filmmaker. I'm not trying to tell people what to do, and I'm not trying to lead... I'm interested in ambiguity."See, she's not trying to tell people what to do! Not a moralistic filmmaker either! She's no moral busy-body ahahahaahaaa
>>215485034>Describe a woman>All the trannies come out of the woodwork to identify with themFucking faggots in this site
>>215484842The meme is a LARP, like everything else on the internet now. In reality the guys that work in high finance now are ugly, repulsive nerds. Think Martin Shrkeli. The movie is leaps and bounds better and more interesting than the book. The book is just a gay man seething about literally EVERYTHING.
>>215484955>secretlyI'm openly gay and I hate women
>>215484974Shit, Nocturnal Animals is one of the most red-pilled movies on modern women ever and it was made by a queer. Gay men in some ways are super-based in their opinions on women. No homo.
>>215484842The problem with satire like this is that the average person today feels weak, poor, demoralized, and alone. It's very easy to look up to these characters making fun of them because despite their toxic traits they're powerful and charismatic. It's like if you tried to convince a black guy that Black Dynamite is actually making fun of them, Black Dynamite is still a martial arts master that gets laid often.
>>215485034Just let people enjoy things
Was American Psycho shot on film or was it digital cameras? I think people like this movie a lot because of the aesthetic
>>215484842but it's not a "gay man's satire on masculinity." it's a gay man's satire of FEMINIZATION, which he wrote after noticing how many straight men around him were behaving exactly like faggots
>>215486145maybe the satire just wasnt very good
>>215486190ofc the woman loves the gay man.
>>215484842She should read Liar's Poker. Wall Street is the epitome of satire.
>>215484842i thought it was a satire of capitalism>lets see those business card>mmmm bone white
Dont care. I'm going with my headcanon
>>215486177shot on film, by the same cinematographer as pulp fiction, who started his career by shooting military propaganda in communist poland. movies used to be made by interesting people
>>215486098It's all in your head. The only thing we should complain about is an office building getting demolished.
>>215484842
>>215484842“Christian Bale’s clearly making fun of them" is such a funny insult because this faggot is too self-absorbed to realize that men don’t give special consideration if a celebrity is mocking them. It’s no different from anyone else making fun of them. But because this buttfucker is so wrapped up in a status-driven mindset like women, he adds Bale’s name to give the insult more weight than it really has.
>>215484966>>215484977>>215485122>>215485255>>215485411>>215485555>>215485700>>215486177>>215486444checked
>>215485034Stop being judgmental
>>215485101>i'm sure the book one is super gay and lame but the female director made him coolHe's 100x worse in the book. Book Patrick will spend half a page taking about a Whitney Houston album, and the other half going into just as much detail about stabbing puppy or child to death. It's also implied he raped women but didn't consider it rape. A true 1:1 adaptation could never be filmed.
>>215486283More specifically a satire of Wall Street type business people
>>215484842Liberals never do satire right. The fictional subjects of their satire are always more appealing than the reality of liberalism. Starship Troopers, American Psycho, Wolf of Wallstreet, The Joker. Their cope is always>yOu DoN't GeT iT!People get it. It's just that those characters and worlds offer a much more optimistic and enjoyable view of life than the grim reality of late stage liberalism we're living through today.
>>215485034>inability to appreciate art or music beyond surface levelI don't think this one is true. He thinks about them more than any normie, that is for sure.
this movie is so fucking shit and only got popular on /tv/ due to dubs guyalso check em.
>>215484842>Wall Street brosI've never seen jews idolize patrick bateman
His mannerism is funny and paradoxically makes him the most sane person in the entire movie full of fake retards. Aside from Luis and Joan maybe.
>>215486329Figured, I think people really take notice of how crisp and sleek the framing of scenes are a lot of the time, you don't see too many kinos that look like this movie
>>215486999chekd
I hate "media literacy" basedfaggots>NoooOo you're not supposed to think "Starship Troopers" is cool, the humans are facist bad guys and the bugs are innocent!
>>215487582"Media literacy" is just agreeing with the Teacher.
>>215485122Ooh goody, another episode of Chud Discovers All The Stuff He's Been Saying About Right Wingers Mostly Just Being Normal People Is Also True Of Most Left Wingers And The Reality Is Both Sides Make Boogeymen Of Each Other When Convenient. I love this show.
>>215484955>secretlyYou will never be one of us, normie.
>>215484842I was always under the impression that anyone "idolizing" Patrick Bateman was doing it ironically. Can anyone point to a single instance of someone who's real, not a made up online fake persona, who is clearly doing it unironically? Who are these Wall Street bros she's talking about? Is there a single documental actual example of one? It just seems like a completely constructed strawman.Another thing, the gay man's satire on masculinity thing is completely wrong. It is a satire about consumerism and the emptiness of it, but Ellis wrote it about himself and his own experience with consumerism.
>>215485034>Narcissism, extreme vanity, obsession with physical appearance, materialism, status obsession, social conformity, emotional emptiness, lack of genuine empathy, inability to form authentic relationships, superficiality, competitiveness to the point of pathology, envy of colleagues, racism, misogyny, homophobia, classism, violence toward women, murder, torture, sadism, psychopathy, inability to distinguish reality from fantasy, delusions, unreliability as a narrator, moral bankruptcy, obsession with business cards, obsession with designer labels, inability to appreciate art or music beyond surface level, pretentiousness, following trends mindlessly, fear of being ordinary, insecurity masked by arrogance, inability to be genuine, lack of self-awareness, cruelty to animals, inability to feel real emotions, compartmentalization of heinous acts, treating people as objects, judging others purely on appearance and status, lack of individuality despite claiming uniqueness, conformity to Wall Street culture, greed, self-absorption, inability to listen to others, viewing relationships as transactional, disposability of people in his life, need for constant validation, fragile ego, rage issues, lack of impulse control, depravity, amorality, hedonism without genuine pleasure, existential emptiness, identity crisis, performing a role rather than being authentic, inability to connect with humanity, complete absence of redemptive qualities, obsession with perfection, rigidity in routines, anxiety about social standing, paranoia, deteriorating mental state, inability to accept his own insignificance, failure to achieve any meaningful existence
>>215485514>who stared into his own eyes during sexBased
>>215484842If that's true then why did patrick batman gives me the dubsia right now
>>215485201>most of his antisocial disorders come from his inability to fuckDidn't it come out in the Depp trial that Amber Heard had a 3some with him and some other bitch?
>>215485034but enough about women
>>215484955MACREADY, BLAST IT
>>215484842>i-i-i-it's actually a gay man!>no no! it's not about friendship! sam and frodo are lovers!>this bunch of military soldiers being hunted by a alien is actually an homoerotic fantasy and a bug chasing allegory!
>>215484842>chudpatrick bateman is the furthest thing from a chud you can get. He is a jew loving, metrosexual, coastal elitist, mass consoomer shitlib
>>215486140Hey, they don't like women for a reason
>>215484842>wall street bros lack media literacyno wonder the economy is tanking
>>215484842The book is. But her + Bale's choice to make him a chiseled narcissist who coasts through life + "kills" anyone who annoys him is a power trip fantasy. A stronger satire would make him incompetent, or always short of his self-regard. This is revisionism like her true target is chuds (VoteBlue media's obsession), not ACTUAL WALL STREET (the target of pre-Occupy Wall street/Maga/Trump years).
>>215485034None of these are drawbacks thouglbeitever
>>215488671kek this is in milwaukee
>>215484955>secretlyKEKAROOOOO
>>215487694>the gay man's satire on masculinity thing is completely wrongYou think it's a case that Patrick's only weakness that makes it back down from killing someone is his gay colleague flirting with him?
>>21548865790% of wall street guys between the age of about 28 and 48 only got into it because they saw the Wolf of Wall Street and wanted to imitate Jordan Belfort. That should tell you everything about them
>>215488743And the ones older than that got into the biz because of Wall Street and Boiler Room. War never changes.
>>215484842It's not a gay man's satire of masculinity, it's a gay man portraying straight men as gay men, directed by a woman.All the petty bickering has nothing to do with straight men, but reflects how faggots and women act. In that sense, it actually is absurd that people idolize him, but I assume it has more to do with the way he looks, talks and dresses.It's still fucking weird that people can't recognize the petty gay/female behavior though.
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>>215485034Why are you describing women?
>>215485034How do say "mucho texto" in English?Thanks advance, anons"
>>215484966I dont think patrick is sigma, he's the opposite
>>215484842Movie studios are literally run + owned by Wall Street now. How did she + VoteBlue ever equate "wall street = 4chan types"?? She's delusional.
>>215485034Modern society celebrates all of these as virtues
>>215484887in the book this scene is funny because in the chapter before it he was at a jew restaurant and raging and calling them kikes. in the movie its out of place. the director clearly didnt understand the novel.
>>215485034But enough about women
>>215484842>He said she saidYawn
>>215485034I.....thank you
>>215484842I feel like this is one of those moments where someone doesn't like how the movie is being viewed. "Waaaa. Why aren't people seeing the way I see it?....Wahhh."
>>215484842The way to neutralize Patrick Bateman is to make the Walter Minty subtext text. Explicitly stated the murders are daydreams but keep the OG film ending that Bateman ends up alone as oppose to the book having him hook up with his working class secretary.
>>215488727Okay, maybe not completely wrong, but it's not the main focus. It's also about a lot of things, to say it's specifically about masculinity is very reductive, and her claim is that it's above all a gay man's take about it. It does poke fun at the "straight rich white male" archetype, but Ellis has said he wrote it about himself and his relationship with consumerism. It's about a lot of things and can be interpreted in many different ways, which is why it's a good film, I personally always thought about it just as a funny movie where a guy acts as an insane lunatic. I think it works on several levels.
>>215485034why are you talking about me?
>>215487694It happens unironically, but it's usually modern yuppies and the like who point at the screen and say "he's literally me", because he is.
>>215486575Doesn't book Bateman also straight up kill a kid?For wanting people to dislike him the movie really mellowed him down.
>>215485034Who hurt you?
>>215485514No anon, he rented pornos and recorded himself fucking whotes over the original pornos and then returned the tapes.
>>215484842You can like it, but it's just as embarrassing as identifying with Joker.
>>215484842>Oh my heckin media literacy! You're supposed to freakin hate these characters!Liberals literally do not understand art lmfao
>>215484842I think the funniest thing about this is that this is literally what happened throughout the 20th century, and everyone is acting like this is some stunning turn of events.For decades Left-Wing movements leaned into every negative stereotype about them because it infuriated their dads. In fact, that's basically 100% of Left-Wing politics. Oh, my dad's a Christian? We'll I'm an Atheist. Oh, my dad wants grandchildren? I'm a FAGGOT. Oh my dad likes having a civilization? Well I love NIGGERS and CRIME and SHITCOLOR.And now, after finally having aged into the old men of civilization, these same people are stunned that the generation of their children also hate them, and simply adopt the aspects of being that they find most horrific.In an ideal world this would've meant everyone going back to being fastidious well-dressed conservatives or something but we don't live in an ideal world, we live in a comedic one, so what really happens is that they have elected to pursue Italian Futurism through an American lens--though they would never recognize it as such because none of them know what Futurism is. Their hatred of liberals is so hot that they *also* hate what the liberals rebelled against, because it was too weak to crush their rebellion.Zang tumb tumb, bitches. You wanted change, and youu're fucking getting it, good and hard.
>>215485034You just know some troon typed all these qualities out thinking it was a gotcha
>>215485034Woah dude I didn't give your permission to post my based card on teevee NOT COOL
>>215485034you forgot the turtlesI like them too
>>215485034uhh you just described the average woman
>>215485034He's literally me.
The fuck is chuds?
>>215485034>failure to achieve any meaningful existencethis one especially is irradiating from the guy that just typed all of that shit out
>>215485034What's wrong with any of it?
>>215485034hmm now that you mentioned
>>215489621Hell yeah, let's all vote for JD Vance.
>uhh chuds, yankee doodle is making fun of you>get some media literacy
>>215484842Christian is the authors self insert and it's more of a criticism of the upperclassmen %1
>>215485034>obsession with business cardsthat's too far
>>215484842>gay man’s satire>character schizos out and murders peopleLowkey fags are mentally ill movie based
>>215485514He was a based god and literally me.
>>215485034Very based. Literally me
>NOOOOOOOOOO HE'S A BAD GUY HE KILLED YOUNGLINGS>YOU CAN'T JUST DRESS UP AS DARTH VADER!! YOU... LE MISSED THE POINT!
>>215490308Darth Vader is a cartoon character.
>>215490347star wars is live action
>>215490363In terms of level of writing and the aesthetics.
men are typically self-deprecating and banter between men is often ribbing and mockingso a muscular, handsome, wealthy character like bateman is hardly ruined by having some flaws (serial killer, insane etc)
>>215484887Why would insecurity be cool?Because it's relatable?That should make you feel ashamed
>>215490396that doesn't make any sensestar wars is very literally not a cartoon
I live in FiDi and see these soulless corporate zooms everyday on my elevator. It’s hilarious how they don’t see the irony.
>>215486804The early part of the movie was a little too new wave for my taste. But when the axe came out at 83 minutes, I think it really came into its own, commercially and artistically. The whole movie has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the cinematography a big boost. The director has been compared to Stanly Kubrick, but I think she has a far more bitter, cynical sense of humor.
>>215490140>UpdateEllis is a homosexual. The whole book is him describing these guys as effeminate and in clown outfits with Bateman wanting to take a deep dicking from Bono because he sang in his direction.
>>215490415I didn't got any insecurity from him what are you talking about
>>215490416Clone Wars exists.
>>215485122>So honestly I was fucking astonished to listen to him latelyHe published White about seven years ago in response to everyone ganging up on him for a tweet from 2016 where he did nothing but note how many people he knew who were voting for Trump. He's never been especially politically vocal but his discontent with Democrats and the left in general has been visible for about a decade.>a sequel to American Psycho 20 yearsNo, Lunar Park is not a sequel to American Psycho, it's a metanarrative where a fictionalized Ellis himself is the principal character and American Psycho is a novel within that narrative, so the being killed in the fire thus cannot possibly also be a character in a book.
>idiot hasn't heard of death of the authorOof moment.
>>215485201Got any source for that? Asking because it came out that both Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein had bizarrely deformed genitals. How common can this actually be?
>>215489012Or the director understood the scene and decided not to include some wasteful scene at a jew restaurant because the comment is obvious without it..
>>215490623not a cartoon either
I've always watched it as completely surreal. I don't take any event as actually occurring or having any moral gravity. They never really make anything feel real at all, like e.g. there's no scene that feels like his work has any sense for example.So basically it's some guys' creative unconscious as played by a charismatic Christian Bale acting like a goofball.
>>215484842Literally no one idolizes the actual character of Bateman. He's a mass murderer with pretty much no redeeming quality. They just think Christian Bale in suits is handsome.
>>215484842She didn't say "chuds" she said "wall street bros" and they are the scum of the earth and deserv all the mockery they get.
>woman says lamest shit everwhy do they keep doing this?
>>215491207So they're gay?
>>215486763The joke of the scenes where he describes various arts is meant to show how shallow and insincere he is.He is just saying things he thinks sounds deep. Just like the scene where he talks ending apartheid and world hunger and stuff.And sure it is deeper than the average normie, but he isn't trying to be an average normie. He is trying to be high society.Why else would the thing he claims most people don't realise about "hip to be square" simply be that it is a "personal statement". That means nothing and applies to essentially all art.
>>215491310It's telling that you think a man being handsome = anal sex.
>>215491226wall street bros was clearly meant as a way to say chuds without saying chuds, dumb leftoid
>>215491336Wall street bros are people with money and access to power.Chuds are unemployed losers living in their moms basement.One is an actual problem to society the other is irrelevant.
>>215491335It's telling that you think straight men obsess over handsome men.
>>215491332sounds like every american liberal ever amirite
>finally respecting the artist's original intention how convenient
>>215485034tranny ethos
>>215485034the irony of all the replies saying this is fine while being 35 year old ugly fat NEETS and nothing like bateman is crazy to me. Like people on 4chan let alone /tv/ pretend to relate to bateman, and see no flaw in him. You realise you guys are nothing like him right? so even relating to him to forgive his flaws sounds ridiculous. fucking pathetic board
>>215491432Kek yet here you are
>>215491444when the fuck did I say I relate to him retard? I'm making fun of the replies who are trying to be him yet are balding, fat, ugly, acne ridden neets. read my post
>>215491432you're right. i have better taste in music than him
>>215484842right wingers are impossible to satirize because they're so stupid the satire goes right over their headsand if you spell it out plainly enough for even the knuckledragging cousin fuckers to get it, they'll screech about THE WOKE MESSAGEtm
>>215491510Harris Lost
>>215491510>right wingersanon...
>>215490856Wouldn't discount those being a result of some fucked up degenerate practice, kind of like how Chris Chan supposedly has a fucked up dick from death gripping and jacking off too much or something such
>>215490856>Harvey Weinstein and Jeffrey Epstein had bizarrely deformed genitals. How common can this actually be?they are both very jewish, and so very related
>>215491432I don't "relate" to dinosaurs and yet they're still cool. You have double digit IQ.
>>215491578Believe me, I know. Just wondering if there's good evidence to add ol' Muskrat to my "deformed-dick Reptilian" list.
>>215491432The funny irony is that Bateman would probably be disgusted at the average internet denizen who thinks he's literally them.
>>215491639Just like me.
>>215491601he's the type of person who can't like a character or film if it doesn't agree with him (unless it is satire). walter white is a manchild and le bad, for example. they don't get art
Why do "leftists" have so much trouble with this?You can think Freddy Kruger is funny without wanting to murder people like he does, but I guess for them they MUST self insert as the characters they like.
>>215491674It has to do with how a certain type of person engages with media. They engage with media in such a way that they see what happens on the screen as not only as an indictment on the opinions of whoever made it but also of whoever enjoys it. In their mind if you like a film you must also like the message of the film. So if someone is engaging with a movie that has a message that is counter to their own values, this type of person assumes that that someone must just be too stupid to understand the message otherwise they wouldn't like the movie.
>>215484987>Gay man’s attire
>>215484842>directorthe source is a book though????????????????
>>215487640Don’t let them tear us apart
>>215491432>>215491453the funny ironing part of this is that, what separates batemen from your view of anons is financial success and looks. very shallowmaybe you are literally him after all?
>>215491733The prime example is Starship Troopers. Verhoeven is obviously satirizing a fascist military society. However he does this by mostly just depicting the society someone who wants that type of society would want, just with a slight comedic tint at times. Because to a leftist that society is inherently and self-evidently flawed, so a work only need to depict it somewhat accurately to be a satire. But that means that fascists loves the depicted society which means they like the movie for the exact opposite reason to the movie's message.
Bateman is a tragic character, misunderstood even by this foid. He just wanted to fit in, be frens with people and be noticed and seen for who he was. The scene where he has to buy whores just to geek out about some of his fave music is really sad.
>>215491884>obviously satirizing a fascist military societywrong, mouthbreather, it works both ways.
>>215491432Stop trying to view life through the MEMEMEMEMEMEMEME lens, stinky retard
>>215485034I could apply about 99% of these to smug leftwing hedonistic liberals
>>215492007I'm not talking about how the movie can be enjoyed but what message the creators were trying to give with it.>"We were accused by the Washington Post of being neo-Nazis!" he says, obviously still irked. "It was tremendously disappointing. They couldn't see that all I have done is ironically create a fascist utopia."
>>215491884>Be leftist>Try create spooky dystopian society ruled by fascism>End up making it look more appealing than modern societyEvery time. How do they keep doing it lmao
>>215484842He's got money, looks and gets to indulge in his favourite hobby without consequence. What man wouldn't want that life?
>>215484842Everyone around Bateman is even more venal and unselfaware, that's why the viewer is cheering the Heel.
>>215491432I am pretty sure absolutely no one looks at patrick batemans character and says that's literally me unironically. The fact that you have to be told this is just a meme shows you are extremely mentally ill and unable to properly assess reality and are a troon leftist>>215491510projection of this level also indicates severe mental illness. There is no "libsofticktock" left wing equivalent. It is impossible to parody the left because if you try and think of the stupidest possible thing in the world a person could say or do you already did it
>>215484842Leftists will never understand that the American Psycho is redpilled MGTOW and THEY are the ones that forced us to behave like him through cultural marxism and suppression of masculinity. Now they are beginning to understand they have no power on us and the demoralization will no longer work
>you know tyler durden is the villain, right? you want to be a psychotic terrorist???I just think his clothes are cool and I want a six pack
>>215492578>I want a six packWhat's stopping you?
>>215491847There's no irony in it lmao. Saying that it's funny that incels think Pat Bateman is based while not living up to their own standards is completely normal
>>215490532Did you watch the movie? Bateman is an insecure loser born with a silver spoon.
>>215484842this shit again
All jokes aside, men relate to him because Bateman is unironically a victim of society.He's obsessed with success in a world where it is the only thing of value and everything else is unimportant. At the end he's frustrated that no one gives a fuck about his confession, that even his most cathartic and crazy impulses are ignored. Both men and women are completely vapid, superficial and soulless which makes genuine connection to anyone or anything impossible, and the only thing left that he's able to feel is hatred and desire for violence.This is the part of the film that every young man subconsciously understood and that's why he became an "unironically me" character
>>215484887no u
>>215492647>againThe character addresses you directly and says that he's an empty souless husk
>>215492603it's a batemenesque critique by someone who abhors him and people who identify with him
>>215492588I'm a gay basedman who watches Fight Club
I've come to realization that man isnt bound by sexuality, a true mascule transcends all that
The book is easily top 3 funniest reads of all time and also makes Patrick seem really cool and even semi complex whereas the film lacks that depth
>doesn't taste like apples
>>215484842It's because it's both a funny and clever movie. Not everything needs to be filtered through the author's opinion of a profession they don't know or people they have never meant. Bale gets it, he laughs about the movie and says he had a great time making it, that was really all it was, a movie for a paycheck that found an audience, she should be thankful people enjoy her work, not being embarrassed because they aren't the people she wants to impress.
>>215492825>The book is easily top 3 funniest reads of all time and also makes Patrick seem really coolIt's a funny book because he's a borderline autistic retard
>>215484930That's a dumb idea but what is a good idea is a drama series with each episode drawing from random scenes in the book with no real direction in the story and limiting the murder to once every 2 episodes or so. Really cover the mundane elements but also the humor and some of the hallucinations
She doesn’t understand the chuds know and don't care. It's a case of internet millenial post irony. She made the fatal mistake of taking 4chan seriously.
>>215487694Exquisite retort
>>215488872>$10 cocktailsTake me back bros
>>215484842It watches like a black comedy and Bateman being a social outcast experiencing existential nihilism, practically screaming into the void, is relatable. She can't separate him being a psychopath, his actions, from the overarching themes because she doesn't understand her own work. Also>physical prime>aesthetically beautiful>wealthy>educatedWhy would anyone want to be like Bateman? Why wouldn't they?
>>215485034You sure told them
>>215485034h-he sounds like a c-cool guy…
I want Patrick Bateman to enter my asshole and blast me with his thick rope
>>215485034>racismWhy did you try to sneak this one in there?
>>215493398It isn't her work. She just adapted it.
>>215484842Death of the author
>>215491510We’re so BRAT!
>>215488405Underrated comment
>>215485034Touch grass faggot
Why is he so cute
>>215484842Check
>>215485034thanks chatgpt
>>215485756It’s the same with starship troopers
>>215484842it's much more about consoomerism and yuppie culture of the time than masculinity, all the girlfriends are as shallow as the men
>>215493553It's definitely a commentary on how heterosexual 80s yuppies adopted the hyper vanity and superficial culture of gay men without realizing how gay they were acting. B.E.E. has talked about that.
Leftists are so used to straw-manning everyone who disagrees with them as a caricature of the worst possible person that when they encounter a bad person with admirable traits it breaks their brain. "No, you can't recognize that this person is admirable in many ways, chuds, they're not admirable in EVERY way," they screech through their tears.
>>215494306that sounds incredibly homophobic
>>215494306Fags always accuse non-fags of being fags. That doesn't mean they are actually fags, thoughbeit.
>>215484842>Looks cool>Is rich>Gets pussy>Kills people>Gets away with it Geez, I wonder why success driven sociopaths like this.
>>215489557oh shit.. is that really what happened?
>>215488106kek
>>215485034so based
>>215494343He wasn't accusing straight yuppies of actually being gay, he was commenting on how odd it was that those right wing Reaganite yuppies were as vain, materialistic, and obsessed with their social status (and coke) as gay men if not more so. He was writing about metrosexuals before that term was coined.
>>215485034You had me at pro-semite.
>>215494478that sounds even more homophobic
>>215486135Based flamer.
>>215494478>Explaining that "Patrick Bateman was about me," he said, "I didn't want to finally own up to the responsibility of being Patrick Bateman, so I laid it on my father, I laid it on Wall Street." In reality, the book was "about me at the time, and I wrote about all my rage and feelings."[28] To James Brown, he clarified that Bateman was based on "my father a little bit but I was living that lifestyle; my father wasn't in New York the same age as Patrick Bateman, living in the same building, going to the same places that Patrick Bateman was going to."it was actually about him being literally bateman
>>215493466The book makes it even more clear that Bateman is a fucking dork and is not taken seriously even when talking about his crimes because it’s unbelievable that he of all people would do things like that.
I know he's a satire, but he's still cool because of how totally serious he is about his life. The vapid, ridiculous lifestyle he lives matters to him a lot, and that gives him integrity despite the utter banality of everything he does. To sneering academics, Bateman's lack of objectivity about his life and preoccupation with superficial bourgeois status games makes him contemptible, but to the average man there is a lot about this narrow way of living that is familiar. It's as Bateman says in the opening monologue "you might sense that our lifestyles are probably comparable". This is meant to be a preposterous statement from the perspective of the author, because Bateman's lifestyle is a narcissistic beauty regimen where he occasionally goes to an office to compare business cards with the other executive vice presidents of mergers and "aquisitions", not exactly something the typical American man would reasonably relate to. But it is his focus on the routine, on the "grind" which makes him seem like a well put-together man. It doesn't matter that his life is a hedonic treadmill absent any higher calling or sense of purpose, that he has no family or aspirations except to continue on as he is. That is what makes him so relatable, makes his life "comparable" to many men today.In a society which has rendered traditional masculine identities obsolete and unobtainable, new models for how to live as a man have to be found. The core of Bateman's life, his regimented self-care and focus on his status among his peers, his callous disregard for women except as disposable sex objects, all of this is stuff men can apply to their own life in the absence of a better alternative.
>>215494659Have you read up on the author? He's a faggot, and the other faggots he were around were the most degenerate, murderous subhuman degenerates imaginable.The book is just him projecting the worst aspects of faggots onto wealthy, white Wall Street guys (based on his horrific, degenerate experiences around other faggots), and this is given another layer in the movie, which was directed by a woman, hence the extra bickering and petty behavior.It's insane that it's meant to satirize Wall Street, when it primarily reflects the way faggots and american women behave.
>>215494567Interesting. Why was James Brown interviewing him?
>>215492729Wow he's literally me!
>>215494361Yes. There's no actual mirror. He's got VHS camera recording himself with a live feed to his TV. Completely insane shit that only makes sense in the VHS era.
>>215485034
the Left really can't insult the Right anymorethe two sides are too far apart that the insults are landing as compliments
>>215495834I just wanted to play my vidya, watch my kino, and read my books and comics in peace. Why did they have to take that from me?
>>215496021and now she expects you to marry her after she's destroyed everything you love.
>>215484842>wow hes literally me>>IM MAKING FUN OF YOU! WHY DONT YOU GET IT!
>>215484955BASED we‘re fags and you can’t stop us
>>215485034>performing a role rather than being authentic,That's 95 percent of modern jobs.
>>215484842>NOOOO IT'S MAKING FUN OF YOU CHUDS YOU CAN'T LIKE ITThat's not what is written.
>>215494692Honestly true. But you should still try to have kids and he a good father to them at some point.
He’s GAYfaggots can only create GAY art.Don’t you incel chuddies know this? Haha you’re gay too now
>>215484842I do work near Wall St, but this stereotype is a little insulting. There's a high likelihood that I am a psychopath and would probably rape women and kill homeless people if I could get away with it. But I don't. People need to calm down with this profiling.
>>215494922I never caught that thats what he's doing. I always thought he was just filming.Makes the >I have to return some videotapes.line even funnier.
>>215484842Woman makes movie about psycho serial killer man and oozes everything she hates about men into the movie.>He Becomes an icon and hero to all men.Many such cases.
>>215486763Joke is he appreciates shittiest albums of said musicians with most vague way possible.
>>215485756American PsychoTeam AmericaApocalypse NowStarship TroopersAmericans are simply too dumb and ignorant to understand what satire is or means.
You are all retarded with your media literacy, "you were supposed to like him ironically", "he is a gay man's fantasy of what masculinity is supposed to be like". Sure, of course the film has satire. You are not smart for figuring out the comedic elements of American Psycho, you retard. But the director literally had sexual fantasies about Patrick Bateman and made Christian Bale go on a date with her, while he roleplayed as Patrick Bateman to get the job. She was so obsessed with Patrick Bateman's performance, she was willing to have the entire project cancelled, which actually happened and resulted in her getting fired, but the replacement was cancelled as well, so she was brought back. So of course Patrick Bateman is also has aspirational qualities. You have to be completely blind to not see that and the cultural impact he had, because of that.But sure. If you are a bluepilled cuck, then just believe what women say and get confused for the entire duration of your life, instead of actually observing what women do.
>>215484842W*men should be quiet on men's affairs.
>>215498675>Americans are simply too dumb and ignorant to understand what satire is or means.No, it's not that they don't get it but that they just ignore it. A movies message has to be so thick and impossible to ignore that beats the audience to death with it. Like Requiem for a Dream. It's not just "drugs are bad, mkay?" but "IF YOU DO DRUGS YOUR LIFE WILL BE OVER AND YOU WILL GET RAPED AND HAVE LIMBS AMPUTATED OR JUST DIE, OKAY?" For a satire to really hit home there can't be any redeeming qualities. Like Bateman would have to have been secretly gay and a transvestite and into kids and self mutilation or scat. So that the kind of people who would idolize a rich shredded psycho man whore are disgusted by him. Starship Troopers would need a Onions Green-tier twist or the fascist society is only clean and nice in the city center but as soon as you step into an alley there are child prostitutes and all the veterans who came back from service are not just missing limbs but are psycho schizos.The kind of people who celebrate those movies don't have a problem with the "bad" aspects that the movie is making fun of, they love them. They see them as positives.
>>215485034The post that broke /tv/
>>215499064the problem is in understanding. when people say they are him when referring to characters like bateman, or the guy from taxi driver, or even the joker, they are meaning they sympathize with the characters internal struggles and worldview, etc. which is literally what you are supposed to do btw. they would not be good characters if you could not do this. like how bateman is a fake man with fake friends and a fake job, who cares about fashion and haircuts to fit in, to the point where "bateman" simply isn't there. this is the author writing about himself, and many people feel the same. or how taxi driver works a shit job with no future and is lonely his whole life, and is disgusted by what he sees in society. countless people live like that.when people say he's me they are not saying they are shredded hollywood actors who murder people. but unfortunately the message isn't thick enough and impossible to ignore for anons like you. like wtf is even your guys point? murder is bad? so dumb lol
>>215499296>but unfortunately the message isn't thick enough and impossible to ignore for anons like you.If you want your satire to really hit so hard that nobody can idolize him then he has to be so pathetic that the kind of audience who would idolize him finds him disgusting. Because on the surface, he is very attractive. He is educated, successful, rich, shredded, cultured, charismatic and well spoken and he kills the dregs of society, who, they think, shouldn't be allowed to exist anyway.
>>215499381>If you want your satire to really hit so hard that nobody can idolize himwhy would you want that?
>>215490532Bateman constantly craves admiration and approval from others above all else and aspires to materialistic goals of status and wealth, and he goes to pieces at the merest hint of these goals not being metHe's deeply narcissistic, egotistical, and superficial. Anything but cool
>>215499402this is more telling of your character desu senpai
>>215488899the amiga sucked
>>215489012The killing the delivery boy part in the book was hilarious. He never got his Kosher Cheeseburger.
>>215499381American Psycho isn't for the Batemans out thereIt's for everyone who knows a Bateman
>>215499413
The only thing bad about Bateman is that he is a killer. A guy having a job that is bullshit and making money isn't bad. Being concerned about your appearance and looking good isn't bad. His life is pretty chill. While media illiterate troons seethe that he is materialistic and greedy, it is never shown in the movie. He does nothing for his job and lives in a minimalistic apartment. The only obsession with stuff shown is that he gets mad if someone has a better business card than him.Remove the killings and the guy is living the dream.
It doesn't matter what the director wanted or whether he's retconning or not. What made him popular was how the fans idolized him, and it doesn't matter what the director wants because nobody likes what the directors wants and the bots on twitter aren't people but just tools to keep engagement or manipulate people, so their opinion doesn't matter either. And I know the bad things of American Psycho, but he's still cool. But I also know that they will make a movie intentionally to be uncool so nobody will likes it, men, women, all people, will be a forgotten movie who no real people will enjoy. I think they already hired a gay Italian director to make a remake and ruin this movie. The same director who make the gay challengersOP, stop using self-loathing shit words.
>>215484842Revisionist history at its worst.
>>215484842>>215484887>rich>successful>extremely attractive>very fit>very motivated>sex with anyone he wants>hates women>hates poor's>hates gay men>hates those both more and less successful/motivated than him>wants to murder women but never actually does>probably autistic>socially awkward but nobody actually pays enough attention to him to noticehes literally designed to be an icon for the modern male.the author thinks she wrote a bad guy because she doesnt understand males or masculinity.
>>215485034>,uhh saar we ">" here.
>>215485034>failure to achieve any meaningful existence
>>215499683No, Ellis wrote the most materialistic, consumerist, superficial, shallow and vain man he could think of and turned him into a psycho killer. I don't think he was expecting anyone to idolize him. Same with Starship Troopers, when Verhoeven was adapting the book he didn't think the audience would be drawn into the whole fascist "service guarantees citizenship" theme. Clearly the man never read a book about fascism or talked to anyone who studied it.
>>215499978>no its not what you say>*types out a bunch of shit that agrees with what i said*
>>215500025https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bret_Easton_Ellisdumb fuck
Where can I find a natsoc cutie, kameraden?
>>215500062>spoiler>wikislopi accept your concession foid.
>>215485122yes he's been complaining about that for years. he can't stand when his young buck boyfriend whines about Trump because it's not genuine, it's just constant exposure to the news cycle.>In an interview with the T.L.S., you said that progressive movements become “as authoritarian as what they’re protesting,” and that “it’s happened to a degree with the #MeToo movement. The idea of sexual assault and violence against women is reprehensible. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t accept that.” Can—>Agreed. Agreed.>Well, you said it—of course you agree.
I just want to kill hookers
>brown and black people take slurs used against them and repurpose them: they are celebrated YASS QUEEN SLAY>white chuds take media that is supposed to be mocking them and embrace it: Wait no you can't do that
Everyone knows the movie is satire, but people can also be self aware about themselves and both simultaneous know the character is a joke but also admire him. To understand this contradiction is to have a higher than average IQ, whereas most brainlets are stuck in black and white thinking.
>>215491432It’s a meme you dip.
>>215487640what streaming service is this on, google doesn't come up with anything
>>215491432>BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN TASTE LIKE APPLES AWWWHHAGHGHHHH I'M GOING INSANE
>>215491432>You realise you guys are nothing like him right?it's absolutely insane that you think this is some kind of revalation you're making here. >oh boy i bet these anons on 4chan don't even realize they're not rich wall street execs in peak physical condition, i have to let them know, that'll show themit's actually frightening how retarded you are and how high your confidence level is, and the world is full of drones like you
>>215498683Actual good post
You guys are so as sensitive lol
Who gives a shit if they get it or not? I'm the only one that matters. It only matters if I get it.
Authors like Tolkien were masterful hair splitters and hated allegory, preferring to use words like applicability. Tolkien hated authors and creators who imposed their views on the viewer. He wrote LotR as a “fundamentally Catholic work” but still he didn’t want to impose it. It was applicable to HIM and HIS time in the world war. Is the movie applicable to your life and its experiences?
>>215484842>STOP ENJOYING THINGS WRONG! kek
>I don't understand why a character that has traits that are perceived to be highly desirable to a large group of people would become glamorized despite him also have some negative traits Wow, so this is the power of ""media literacy"".
>>215501575he and his friends were shopping for clothes, there was a scuffle with nazi in there, when they went out the skinhead nazi were waiting one punched him with a knuckleduster, and he struck his head on a pavement. "one punch" more like "hitting your head on teh pavement once". it happens often. don't relax around violent cunts.
>>215485411But this time she's the hero!
>>215499978the double standard hits hard. when a woman in a movie stares at herself in the mirror, takes care of her skin, fucks with the lights on, it’s “empowerment,” “reclaiming her image,” “self-love.” when a man does it, suddenly it’s vanity, narcissism, danger. it’s the same gesture, just filtered through who’s doing it. people don’t notice how much of what we call “toxic” is just the male version of the same hunger for control and affirmation. Bateman’s mirror scene only looks pathological because you’ve already decided men aren’t supposed to look at themselves with affection. once you strip that judgement away, it’s just another human trying to love the only person he can fully control.
>>215501811>don't relaxThat doesn't appear to have been his fatal flaw here
Bateman is literally Bret Easton Ellis. Listen to his podcast and read his backstory. Ellis is a rich kid that sniffs his own farts. People are really bad at reading books or may have never wrote themselves. You put yourself on the page.
It's like The Boys, where nobody liked it for the real message, but people liked it because Antony Starr was cool as HomelanderSo they made Homelander softer, changing his tone to become more comedic, putting him in games and everything. But we already expect each season to be worse, full of garbage, because they have to push the author's message, which nobody cares about and which most viewers never watched the show for. I'm thinking of abandoning it and skipping the last season like I skipped Gen V.But The Boys was always shit and used cheap gore and had some useless gross scenes that we needed to skip since the only cool parts were Homelander, Butcher (but only for a moment when he wanted to kill everyone including the rape baby of Homelander), and Soldier BoyFrenchie and the other guys were sidekicks of the main characters Homelander and Butcher on The Boys, and the feral asian girl was a cool couple with FrenchieBut they ruined it by making Frenchie explicitly gay (bisexual) with a nig, when we could have just ignored that or thought he wasn’t, without the author intentionally ruining the character, and The Deep being humiliated and cheated by a ugly black woman when he could be with the best black or women of any race since he's out of her league in looks.But The Boys is hitting the fatigue point each season is getting less attention and lower ratings from the public. Gen V only increased the fatigue around The Boys, I just skipped itAnd I'm sure the onions boy author of The Boys on Amazon will never say anything against Israel’s about Palestine since he work for themEvery The Boys narrative tries to adapt to Democrats party interests in be elected to become richer with more taxpayers money by creating a negative caricature against what they want to sell against their enemies to manipulate the people who think others are dumb but they are self-aware of the interest but just ignore and have fun with what they really liked.
