>The favorite film of Martin Scorsese, Stephen Spielberg, Akira Kurosawa, Michael Mann, and John Wayne himself. Routinely voted the greatest western ever made, and frequently listed among the top 10 greatest films ever made. Star Wars, Lawrence of Arabia, Dirty Harry, Taxi Driver, Unforgiven, Heat, and The Dark Knight, among others, were all heavily influenced by it.All this and I bet half you suckers haven't even seen it before.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPWwMXk9FyQ
>>215493178It’s a piece of shit and John Wayne was a fag.
>>215493178Some trivia. While filming this, Kirk Douglas visited the set and raped Natalie Wood when she was 16. For decades Wood said she was raped by an unnamed famous actor. After Douglas died her family published her biography and named Kirk Douglas as the raper.After being raped by Kirk Dougles, Natalie Wood was later murdered by Robert Wagner, thrown off his yacht to drown.
>>215493178Oh wow, the Dark Knight. What an honor.>>215493254Repo Man sucks.
I've never seen a John Ford film that wasn't kino.Does he have a single bad film? They're all good, even the John Wayne goes to Ireland one is just pure fucking soul.
Searchers is amazing. When you think Wayne is going to kill the girl because she's gone native and then he just embraces her in his arms is one of the most beautiful moments in a western
>>215493951>even the John Wayne goes to Ireland one is just pure fucking soul.An old man I worked with when I was a teenager said that was his favorite film. Like many Americans, he was obsessed with his Irish ancestry and had fantasies of "going back".
>>215494001The real life story it was based on, it took them 25 years to find her, and she had been passed around the tribe for decades and had a bunch of half Indian kids. They kidnapped her away from the tribe, she had severe Stockholm syndrome and begged to go back, and killed herself when they wouldn't let her. One of her rape babies, being substantially smarter than his fellow tribe members, went on to become chief of the Comanche and had a bit part in the 1908 silent film 'The Bank Robbery'.Long story short, if her story had been more like real life then shooting her dead probably would have been the most compassionate thing to do.
>>215493178Who the fuck hasn't seen The Searchers? Fuck off zoomie.
>>215493178The ending of an era where man would resolve their differences trough fighting and old values, the dead of all of this trough modern times, classic movie, even ethan changes but the world has no place for him in the end, also one of the most brutal deaths ever not shown
>>215493382Apparently Hollywood and the world is full of people like this
>>215494155Jesus
If you like westerns but haven't seen the Great Silence strong recommend>>215494155Depressing
>>215494641In one scene, the young guy who follows John Wayne around is having a fist fight with the musician who almost marries his love interest. The girl they are fighting screams for somebody to stop them, and John Wayne says something "What are you screaming about, you're the one who started it". That quiets her down and she just watches the fight then. At one point it cuts to her and she has a big smile on her face, enjoying watching them fight over her. John Ford knew women, they love seeing bucks ramming over them. On a side note that girl is a very beautiful Czech actress named Vera Mills. She's one of the few cast members who are still alive, she's 95 now.
>>215495023Vera Miles*
>>215493382Kirk Douglas was a mensch he wouldn't forcibly rape a 16 year old shiksa. She must have meant statutory rape. Back then when a 16 year old girl got flirty you fucked her.
>>215493178>Boomers obsessed over what was basically their day's shonen/comic slopImagine my shock.I deeply, deeply hate what John Wayne did to film. I hate him and Kevin Costner more than any other actors on an artistic level for very similar reasons.
>>215495023Probably the most famous movie Jeff (capt Pike) Hunter was in.
>>215495067The fact she called him out specifically like that for so many decades despite the fact she probably fucked tens of other famous guys, makes me think it was substantially more than just a regretted it later situation. Was probably an actual hold your arms and bend you over the table type rape. Being a famous guy who a lot of women wanted, he was probably used to doing that and the women just not having a problem with it, because "Hey, I'm Kirk Douglas, she wants this Jewish dick even if she doesn't realize it."
>>215495149Hays Code and all I was pretty surprised by that scene. She kept trying to peek at his dick in the tub. In the scene they also talk about what if he stood up in front of her and she says she wouldn't mind. Then she goes behind him and pretends to close the door so he thinks she left the room and stands there behind him quietly for a bit like she's waiting for him to stand up not realizing she's still there. Pretty provocative for 1956.
>>215493178I watched it and it's just a completely standard 50s western. Nothing really standing out in any way. Completely mogged by the entiere Dollars trilogy. Not even trying to be contrarian, but like what's the big deal?
>>215493178I've not heard of it until the last 24h, whereupon I found I had had to investigate further
>>215495164An interesting theory. Curious how he voraciously defended the lives of the 4 GIs who were rapists in Town without Pity, from the hangman's rope he fought to save them
>>215493178Too ponderous for me. Liberty Valance is stronger drama. My Darling Clementine + Young Mr Lincoln are the benchmark. Searchers is for the tech/vistavision fags to brag about their toys. Something too neat/clean about it.
>>215495067Shiksa? Natalie wood was jewish Lol
>>215496540She was after he finished with/in her.Also no.>She was of Russian and Ukrainian descent and raised in the Russian Orthodox religion
>>215495510You need to appreciate what isn't shown, what's implied. That sort of subtlety just doesn't fly with audiences since the 80s.
>>215496765>subtletyIt's literally just "generic cowboy v. Indian story #3573653728495" set in monument valley with vistavision. It is to Boomers what Marvel is to Millennials or shonen crap is to Zoomers.
>>215496797It's filmed in Monument Valley, but set in Texas. Not really sure what they were thinking there.
>>215496852>Not really sure what they were thinking there.The West was a mythical place before the rise of AC, planes, and the interstate turned it into a parking lot.
>>215493178>>The favorite film of Akira KurosawaNot true.
>>215496852Monument Valley is Navajo. They were not a violent tribe. Actual story took place in Texas with the Comanche. John Ford just liked to film movies in Monument Valley, because it's awesome.
>>215496896Brevity, everybody knows Kurosawa was a John Ford dick rider.
Recommend me any other good classic westerns? I've seen a lot of the big ones
Also i prefer psychological westerns if that helps
>>215496997>any other good classic westernsI love Gregory Peck
>>215497061>4U
>>215496997I just watch The Proposition and it was pretty solid. Australia can do a western when they want.
>>215496997My Darling Clementine (1946), another John Ford western filmed in Monument Valley. Like Searchers, it feels more "weighty" than other westerns from the time.Trailerhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aF5QQoGgCEFull filmhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6XQDKYGtnV4
>>215497195this was harry trumans favorite movie
kino doorways: the movie
>>215497204I saw that video as well, was surprised Bill Clinton's favorite movie wasn't Animal House.
>>215497375>it was actually Porky's 2: Porky's Revenge
watch it in a theater
>>215497061Nice, I'll check it out I've been meaning to download it>>215497096Been meaning to check this one out too, I've heard good things>>215497195Thanks, I'll check this out too
>>215493178I've seen quite a few John Ford movies and wouldn't even put this in the top ten. I mean it's good but I never saw what the hype was about. Fort Apache, Stagecoach, The Quiet Man, My Darling Clementine are all 10 times better
>>215497061>pacifist protagonist in a westerninto the trash
Got to see the restored version on a fresh 70mm print this year. It doesn’t get more kino than that.
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>>215493178It's fucking terrible, there are so many mistakes if you actually watch it, and Wayne can't act to save his life.
>>215497853He said he wants an arty classical Western, and so I gave him the ultimate arty classical Western.
>>215496997Wagon Master is chill af
>>215493178the american westerns all suck compared to the spaghetti ones
>>215499264spaghettis are soulless>barely any families>barely any Indians>just le nameless existentialist individualist loner against everyone else + inevitable marxist allegories because the director went to universityredpill is: Sergio Leone is soulless and mechanical, but you don't notice as long as you hear Morricone soundtrack.
>>215493951The last one he did with Wayne which they shot in Hawaii, it wasn't a "bad" film per se, but it was just some random throwaway 60s comedy, the rating on IMDB is on spot for that one, it's like a 6/10 comedy that could have been also directed by Howard Hawks or anyone else really.
>>215493254okay boomer
>>215495510>. Completely mogged by the entiere Dollars trilogyName a more reddit opinion,
>>215493178Boomer trailers are so funny. They have the entire story including the ending. This is basically a premade youtube movie summary.
>>215499006based, Wagon Master is one of my all time favorites, love the songs by Sons of the Pioneers
>>215499264spaghettifags really are the most entry level plebs, worshipping the same 4 movies as the pinaccle of westerns because they are the only ones they've actually watched
>>215493178I got the 4k for it
John Ford is amazing, all this & more on OP is a dumbass
Was it really necessary to shoot the dead injun's eyes? Seems just mean, you know?
>>215496852Thats standard. The climax of true grit is in a colorado alpine aspen meadow in the indian territory of oklahoma. The west isn't a real place
>>215499677no, day of anger and fistful of dynamite are kineaux on a level your stupid ass cannot understand
>>215493178I like it but I like the Leone westerns more tbqhwy
>>215500225spaghettislop is the capeshit of its time
is the trifecta The Searchers, Once upon and Unforgiven?
>>215493178used to be on tv all the time when i was a zoomert. gen x
were the confedere states the good guys?
>this is the boyfriend of my teenage daughter I was telling you about
>>215493178I haven't seen any westerns because I don't like them. Don't like the period, the style.
I've never seen True Grit
>>215495067This. It was just a different time...
>>215499528That's because it's a fan made synposis that he just named a trailer for some reason. The original trailer doesn't reveal near as much lol
>>215494155people these days often forget that the reason women were able to survive conquests throughout history is simply because they spread their legs and opened themselves up to the conquerors
>>215501335In the American Civil War, most Confederates were just fighting for their homes and their neighbors. They weren't very politicized on the major issues.To the average southerner, they were being invaded by the Union.
>>215493382>raped Natalie Wood when she was 16same year she was sleeping with directors for starring roles...don't necessarily believe it>For Wood, 16, who’d been in 20 films since she was 5, getting the part of Judy would be her chance to transition to adult roles. The problem was that every actress from Debbie Reynolds to Jayne Mansfield was being considered.But between the time Wood interviewed with director Nicholas Ray, 44, and did a screen test, they’d become lovers rendezvousing in a Chateau Marmont bungalow.
>>215495067This is why you people deserved Auschwitz.
>>215501188>capeshit of its time>in cotrast to Ameircan Westerns which are apparently high art
>>215493254No John Wayne is an airport in Burbank
>>215502814>But between the time Wood interviewed with director Nicholas Ray, 44, and did a screen test, they’d become lovers rendezvousing in a Chateau Marmont bungalow.from her sisters book about the rape:>According to the book, the girls' mother Maria Zakharenko dropped Natalie off one night at the entrance of Chateau Marmont, a hotel on Los Angeles's Sunset Boulevard.>The meeting had been arranged by their mother, who thought that "many doors might be thrown open for her, with just a nod of his famous, handsome head on her behalf".>Lana said she remained in the car outside with Maria.pimped out by her own mother, who waited in the car with her little sister. fucked up
>>215493382Early life section?
>>215502973>Early life section?> B'nai B'rith, an international Jewish humanitarian, service, and advocacy organization. Founded in 1843, its mission includes combating anti-Semitism, promoting Jewish unity
>>215495023Girls like her would be doing Blacked these days
>>215502912they were when John Ford was behind the camera
>>215502966That's Hollywood, baby!Or something to that affect.By the way, you are not allowed to presuppose Monroe went through the same rigmarole. She was wholesome chungus.
>>215494001Seriously. I was just sitting there enjoying the movie and the moment he lifted her up I wept.
>>215502966All child actors are essentially pimped out by their parents. Every one of them. That's how Hollywood works.
>>215499264I don't like the corniness of movies from the 40's/50's/60's, but it's just a superficial dislike. The story they are telling in The Searchers is actually a lot more gritty and nuanced than anything from the Dollars trilogy. It's a shame such a big cultural shift happened to movies in the 70's, we all grew up on post shift movies and it prevents a lot of us from enjoying anything pre-shift.
Vera Cruz is better
>>215493178I've seen it. I don't get it: John Wayne is supposed to be some tough guy, but he's just a bitchy man the whole time. Otherwise decent film.
>>215499870When the little girl is hiding behind Ethan's parent's tombstones, you can see it says they were murdered by Comanche. His mother was likely gang raped, scalped and killed by them. That on top of them just raping killing the rest of his remaining family. It's how you create a one man eye-shooting genocide machine.
>>215502912>>215501188Was thinking this recently as well. Older westerns the guy's used to just be capable men, but Blondie is a literal superhero. Supernatural speed, supernatural accuracy, virtually unkillable. High Plains Drifter it at least fits because Clint's character is basically a wendigo out for revenge, so his supernatural abilities make sense in the context of the story.
Westerns are the most white man genre of them all, so it figures that /pajeet/ otherwise known as /tv/ dislikes them kek
>>215502973>Early life section?Kirk Douglas' real name is Issur Danielovitch. his parents were Jews from Mohylew, Belarus. Natalie Wood's parents were Christian Russian\Ukrainian settlers from Siberia and Far East. I don't want to get political. Just saying.
>>215493951How Green Was My Valley is my favorite of his. Yes there is some melodrama but Ford gets a pass for that.
that scene of the indians stalking the house and the absolute terror the family feels is one of the best scenes in history.
>>215504469fuck welsh pipo
>>215499734This transfer is incredible.
Ok since you're all a bunch of plebs ITT I'm gonna recommend one of the best westerns that actually never gets talked about.
She Wore a Yellow Ribbon mogs Searchers any day of the week.
>>215503952>Older westerns the guy's used to just be capable menOlder Westerns are all the same exact stories, settings, and characters with different variations, they have zero creativity. They were the most formulaic genre in the history of fiction and were literally pumped out by the hundreds annually at their peak.
