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so you're telling me a fuckin wizard has no spells to safely jump off the tower? why was a moth even flying up there?
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>>215493522
>casts Feather Fall
>spell ends before he's halfway down the side
Great plan, Int-7 fighter.
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what do you mean?
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>>215493522
If he did then that would open major plot hole at the bridge of khazad dum, wouldn't it?
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>>215493559
You can cast Feather Fall with an instant utterance, quickly enough to save yourself if you unexpectedly fall. Casting Feather Fall is a immediate action, allowing you to cast this spell even when it isn’t your turn. You're so stupid that you must be a Sorcerer. Or even worse, a warlock.
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>>215493522
He didn't spec in Acrobatics
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why is a tiny moth talking to a giant eagle anyway? hey mr eagle, dont eat me but gandorf told me he need an uber.
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>>215493522
The fuck he'd do after that, sneak around the orcs Splinter Cell-style?
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>>215493690
I don't think there were orcs at Isengard yet. This was when Gandalf still thought Sauronman was an ally.
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>>215493671
Apologies. I played druids.
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>>215493838
ah, a furry
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>>215493522
Why didn't Gandalf transform into a T-rex to fight Saruman?
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>>215493522
LotR wizards aren't DnD wizards
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>>215494213
what a terrible card.
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>>215493522
>Jump down and land safely
>Endless army of Uruk-hai surround you.
>Reenact the summer of ‘92
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Jokes aside, didn't Saruman get bitched so hard that he had lost the remnants of his divine ability which is why in the books he literally just goes onto become a pathetic mob boss in the boonies who bullies midgets until they beat his ass too?
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>>215494298
Gandalf stripped him of his power conduit and his ring stopped working when Sauron died
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>>215494260
What an amazing card
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>>215494260
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>>215493522
They had eagles equipped with predator missiles ready to scramble if he tried anything
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> How does this wizard prison keep wizards imprisoned?
Yeah it's a real mystery innit.
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>>215493522
They've removed spells like levitation from the game to reduce player's freedom. The same goes with a number of npcs marked as unkillable.
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fucking rpgfaggots
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>>215493755
Nigga he was looking at the trees being cut down and Uruks being created from the top of the tower
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>>215494673
Grok, is this real?
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>>215493522
Why couldn't Gandalf Wingardium Leviosa himself off the roof?
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>>215498632
Because that wouldn't do anything dumbass. The spell is Wingardium Leviosa. Not Wingardium Leviosa.
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>>215494213

magiclet here. What's the point of this card
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>>215498352
What do you think?
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>>215493522
so Eagles can save him from Sauron tower but cant fly them with Ring?
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YEYEYEYEYEYEYEYE
HOHOHOHOHO
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>>215493522
How the hell do you even get up there?
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>>215496037
Thanks, Tolk Howard.
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>>215498876
The Caradhras storm was caused either by Sauron or the spiteful nature of the mountain itself. Definitely not Saruman.
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>>215494234
A nigga cant even summon webs for his hands so he can climb down like Spiderman? What about teleport, even Van Helsing can do that. Not even a magic rope? Like enchant some vines or something
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>>215498885
WIZARDS ONLY, MOTHERFUCKER
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>>215499036
Wormtongue also got up there
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>immortal ancient wizard with post-resurrection god power-up
>feats include...
>turning his staff into a flashlight
>turning his staff into a REALLY bright flashlight
>fighting with a regular sword like a regular guy
>defeating an equally useless jobber wizard
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>>215498800
>Hey, fags!
>You belong in a fantasy game, not real life
kek
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>>215493522
Sauronman stole his staff
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>>215498800
>all pudgy and flabby
>not a normal looking person in sight
The more I think about it the less this thing seems to be about sexuality
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>>215493522
>fuckin
Calm down, millennial
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>>215493522
Magic for Tolkien is not like D&D
there are no "spells" in Tolkien, "spells" are the bad guys' smokes and screens to fool idiots
magic is merely the power allotted from God to every being in Creation, only God can give that power and as you consume it against God's plan you lose it
that's why Sauron and Melkor get progressively weaker across the ages, they just had a huge head start but squandered it all
those who live in accordance to God's Grace
don't squander it
Fun fact: humans don't have "magic" because of the Original Sin, literally, their short lives and being cut off from nature is the punishment for the first humans worshipping Satan after he helped them out with language. Literally.
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>>215493522
oh my friggin god you stupid midwit idiot the answer is MUH FLIPPIN CHRISTIANITY you stupid mongrel
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>>215493522
There's no magic in Lord of the Rings.
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>>215499326
>The Voice of Ilúvatar speaks one more time, and pronounces judgment upon Men for these deeds: "'Ye have abjured Me, but ye remain Mine. I gave you life. Now it shall be shortened, and each of you in a little while shall come to Me, to learn who is your Lord: the one ye worship, or I who made him.'"[2]:347 Soon after, the first deaths begin to occur, the Earth and its creatures turn against Mankind.

>>215499326
True. Even the Sauron's and Saruman's "magic" is actually just highly advanced technology. Closest you have to magic is necromancy which can't be done to humans anyway because God calls the souls of all humans to himself the instant they die, no matter what.
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>>215499326
>the whole of Middle Earth has been gaslighted into believing in magic
Interesting take. Then Elves and Wizards are doing it to stay on top of the feudal hierarchy and Sauron was a heroic disruptor of a corrupt system?
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>>215499420
Sauron told everyone that God isn't real and they could topple God, and that got billions drowned and world reshaped to prove a point.
I don't remember the exact passage but there's a point where Frodo and Sam ask Galadriel about magic and Galadriel states something along the lines of "I have no idea what you are talking about, magic is what devil-worshippers call it, I'm just being myself."
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>>215499420
>>215499453
My bad, it's not Galadriel but it's some other elf in Lothlorien.

>`I do not know what you mean by that,' answered the leader of the Elves. `They are fair garments, and the web is good, for it was made in this land. They are elvish robes certainly, if that is what you mean. Leaf and branch, water and stone: they have the hue and beauty of all these things under the twilight of Lórien that we love; for we put the thought of all that we love into all that we make. Yet they are garments, not armour, and they will not turn shaft or blade. But they should serve you well: they are light to wear, and warm enough or cool enough at need. And you will find them a great aid in keeping out of the sight of unfriendly eyes, whether you walk among the stones or the trees. You are indeed high in the favour of the Lady! For she herself and her maidens wove this stuff; and never before have we clad strangers in the garb of our own people.

Basically "magic" is the grace of God that makes things better and encompasses all. Elves are closer to God than humans are because elves never collectively committed the Original Sin. Some sinned but not all whereas all Men's ancestors sinned at some point and their descendants carry the sins of the Fathers of Men. That's it, OP. That's magic in LotR.
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>>215499360
>God calls the souls of all humans to himself the instant they die, no matter what.
what about the ghost ship spectre army
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>>215499560
Apparently curses on traitors override god's will. Or maybe not depending on how you read it.
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>>215499560
They had been temporarily put on hold because while they were alive they had sworn an Oath with God as their witness, and God takes that shit seriously. The moment their Oath was fulfilled, they went to God instantly.
For the record that goes for the bad guys as well. The Ringwraiths also went to God the moment Sauron could not keep their souls tied to their transparent bodies anymore.
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>>215499599
>be an absolute piece of shit human, enslave other humans, burn children alive as Satan worship
>bask in God's glory when you die
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>>215499632
That's just Christianity. Be a complete dick all your life then repent on your deathbed.
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>>215493522
what does he eat
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>>215499136
He created a barrier that broke the Balrogs sword

He also summoned a lightning bolt that charged his sword with magic when he slew the ballot

He also exorcised a guy thst wa possessed by an equally powerful wizard
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>>215493522
Are you telling me when two wizards face off they can't do anything but throw one another around telekinetically?

I'm constantly disappointed by wizard duels in TV and film. They could be truly epic, but always seem to just be lame or are cut short.

Closest you get to epic wizard shit is Dumbledore vs Voldemort, only to have it kinda fizzle due to Harry being there. Marvel even cut short that scene of Strange vs Thanos.

The worst part is Tolkienfags will actually defend how lame and ineffectual the wizards are in their shit. Pathetic.
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>>215499985
Big magical fights eat into the sfx budget.
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>>215499985
they are not wizards they are more like angels. only humans call them wizards because they don't know what they are.
Their purpose is to guide and share wisdom, not do the heavy lifting.
God himself could come down and fuck shit up, but he doesn't because the little people have to sort out their problems for themselves.
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>>215493522
He put all his dots into pyrotechnics.
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>>215500019
Spend a gazillion on faggots with hairy toes. Don't spend on actual cool shit. Spend effects budget on big fire demon. Just have wizard yelling at it with a stick. Fuck the hell off.

>>215500049
Wow, how exciting and fucking cinematic.
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>>215500121
go watch harry potter, leave lotr to the grownups
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>>215500049
God came down and fucked shit up when he murdered all the innocent people in Numenor who hadn't set foot off the island
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>>215499202
That's a broad definition of the average Amerilard. Though you are correct that *thing being protested/supported* is less about the *thing* for Americans.
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>>215500173
Tolkienfags are the worst. Imagine defend that horseshit to the death. It's like they're addicted to boredom and literally nothing happening after hours of build up.
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>>215500305
don't watch it then you faggot
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>>215500332
Haha, triggered Tolkienigger. Pathetic. I laugh in the general direction of your obvious homosexuality.
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>>215500341
I'm a Tolkien (PBUH) nigger what are you going to do about it
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>>215494298
Saruman gets murdered by Wormtongue
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>>215493522
only priests can levitate
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>>215499953
first two happened before the power-up
the third was just him defeating sauronman which isn't impressive because sauronman also does fucking nothing
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>>215500412
Laugh at you defending this faggot shit.
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>>215498876
TROLOLOLOLO
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>>215494234
>>215498925
FUCKING secondaries don't understand that by D&D standards Saruman and Gandalf aren't even wizards mechanically, they're Outsiders taking human form.
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>>215500508
I like it hehe
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>>215498851
Sauron tower doesn't have nazguls nearby



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