Why did Jews hate this film again? This is the most jewish movie I’ve ever seen.
>>215494057Because they are the descendants of those who blindly followed the Sanhedrin
>>215494074Qrd on this?
>>215494057Because it painted the Romans as a reluctant mediator. The Jewish messaging to Christians is that the Romans happily killed Jesus because he was a Jew.
>>215494057John 10:24-26>24 Then came the Jews round about him, and said unto him, How long dost thou make us to doubt? If thou be the Christ, tell us plainly.>25 Jesus answered them, I told you, and ye believed not: the works that I do in my Father's name, they bear witness of me.>26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.John 18:36>Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
>you are SINFUL and DIRTY and deserve to be TORTURED in fire FOREVER>unless you telepathically swear allegiance to this rabbi from 2000 years agoderanged abuse desert cult
>>215494247The dude was a jew. I never got the distinction. Was he not offering the Jewish god to non believers? It was a Jewish faith until the council of nice. He was a Jewish as was judas.
>>215494247>Then Jesus said to the woman, “I was sent only to help God’s lost sheep—the people of Israel.”Funny how you leave the next line out
>>215494057Because they're also the bad guys. They don't like when you point out when they kill innocent Messiahs.
>>215494106Sanhedrin were the pezzonovante back then, the high priests all the Jews willingly follow and the guys who are giving Jesus shit in the movie
>>215494291>the Jewish godI meant god. He was saying it's not a birthright it's a gift to all men. Am I misinterpreting?
>>215494337The Romans killed jesus. That’s a historical fact bro
>>215494291>1 Corinthians 9:20>To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the lawThat's why its called the new testament it's open to all men not only Jews
>>215494370On the insistence of the Sanhedrin. Pilate literally says "I find no fault in this man" then the Sanhedrin threatened to revolt in which case the Roman emperor (was it Nero or Caligula at the time?) threatened to get rid of Pulate
>>215494316that's not the next line.Also you just confirmed that "Israel" in the Bible doesn't mean jews since Jesus literally tells the jews they are not His "sheep." I haven't studied the New Testament that much but I've studied it enough to know the basic fact that Jesus didn't care about bloodlines, i.e. the jews claiming they're "chosen" based on their ancestry. To Jesus, the "chosen" people were Christians, those who heard his voice and believed in him.This is pretty blatantly clear when Jesus tells a Roman Centurion that him and many others like him will come from the east and west to be seated with the saints in Heaven.
>>215494418Actually it is Claudius after Caligula.
>>215494291It was Jewish infighting. You know, like communists. For Stalin Trotsky was worse than the Nazis, for early Christians other Jews were considered worse than Romans. They were basically cowards knowing that Rome can easily destroy their cult so they desperately tried to portray themselves as not the enemies of the Rome even blaming other Jews for killing their prophet and not the Romans.
>>215494418Exactly. A Roman emperor commanded a Roman soldier to kill jesus. Why do you deny this?
>>215494452No, it's not successive, I mean I don't remember who was in power at the time I know all the roman emperors in succession up to Pertinax, but the dates get foggy
>>215494291Judas was the only disciple not from the area Jesus was from. Judas was from the area where the jews that hated Jesus and killed Jesus were from.Jesus was from Galilee, called "Galilee of the gentiles" in the Bible. Judas was not.
>>215494391But he was giving Judaism to them. It was about letting go of the birthright aspect, no? Mohammed did the same for his people. It's really all the same faith.
>>215494370The Romans were weaponized against Him. The guy who speared Him (Longinus) would go on to be sainted for spreading the Gospel even after his eyes and tongue were taken from him.
>>215494477He didn't order him to kill Jesus, he ordered him to keep the peace in PALESTINE. The Jews threatened to revolt if Jesus wasn't crucified
>>2154944771 Thessalonians 2:14-15 says that the jews killed Jesus.Logically speaking, if you throw someone into a den of lions and the person is eaten by the lions, are you responsible for their death or the lions themselves?the jews tried to stone Jesus to death multiple times in the Bible but failed. Eventually they resorted to coercing the Romans to kill Jesus.Pontius washed his hands clean of Jesus' death and the jews yelled out "his blood be upon our hands and our children's!"
>>215494522So if someone kills your mother, proclaims to wash their hands, and points at a group Jews as the real killers, who will you get revenge on?
>>215494501Cool story. >The name of Longinus was not known to the Greeks previous to the patriarch Germanus, in 715. It was introduced among the Westerns from the Apocryphal Gospel of Nicodemus. There is no reliable authority for the Acts and martyrdom of this saint.
>>215494498Matthew 5:17 Jesus didn't come to abolish the law but it fulfill it so that it pertained to all men, Jew or gentile
>>215494057I know Christians who hate this film because it makes a spectacle out of Jesus's death and has nothing of substance to say. There are no themes or messages in this film. It's torture porn designed to guilt trip and shock people. Scorsese's Last Temptation of Christ was a million times more substantive than this drivel.
>>215494539If someone holds a gun to the head of a stranger man and orders him to kill your mother, who will you take revenge against?
>>215494520You’re so dumb. Judea was literally the state drawn and administered by the Romans, Palestine is a gay invention by brown people.
>>215494488But christ was no gentile. He was a rabbi from birth. His family was jews. The Catholics were the ones who decide it had to be a separate faith. Then they started their antisemitic dogshit and started the whole pay me for being a human or burn in hell shit. When the jew Christian and Muslim get together and finally see its the same thing their will be hell to pay. We're witnessing that coalescence now but the internet would have you belive they hate each other.
>>215494573No one is holding a gun to a Roman legionary’s head. They massacred them 35 years later and destroyed Jerusalem and the temple. wtf are you talking about
>>215494574Your yarmulke is showing Moshe
>>215494542God isn't real. The religion that spread is without a doubt Jewish. It was adapted by non-Jews, but the core is clearly Jewish. I don't give a shit about your mythology and when I discuss Christianity I talk about reality, not your fairy tales.
>>215494498No, He was not giving Judaism to the people. He was the promise of the Tanakh and fulfilled the law so we are saved from it. The Old Testament is closed. The New Testament is that we are saved by our faith that only Jesus can save our souls and not by our own actions. A big teaching of Christ is that even thinking of a sin as a good idea is a sin and Judaism believes you will be judged on your actions alone. And Scripture tells us repeatedly that we aren't good enough to save ourselves as we can't ever accept faith without being chosen to believe. So either you live the literal perfect life or you believe in Christ Who has already taken the punishment for you. Otherwise, you keep reincarnating until the end when you go to Hell.
>>215494603>200 years laterI’m talking to an underage indian
>>215494522>the jewsWe have to stop that phrasing. It was a jew on jew crime. We believe the same thing. It was the Catholics that needed a distinction. They were the ones who started antisemitism as we know it today. They were the precursor to Hitler.
>>215494606See, you're the reason why people hate Reddit.
>>215494618Yes, which makes the New Testament religion even worse and more radical. It's essentially a blackmail - believe that Jesus (a guy that couldn't convince even a bunch of ancient Jews of his godhood) is the god. If you don't you deserve eternal suffering. It's unironically one of the most evil religions that were ever created.
>>215494675He saved me. You're just wrong.
>>215494639Fuck off you dumb Christian. You dumb retards infested this fucking websites with you idiocy and now you think you're welcomed here.
>>215494691How did he save you tho, don’t you live in sin?
>>215494057He called their corruption
>>215494618If not god then what? We know there are laws to the universe. You cant believe in physics without believing in god imo. You just have a child's understanding of god.
>>215494691I don't give a shit about your delusions. Why are you even here, on fucking 4chan, a place full of hate, porn and all kind of garbage? To talk about Jesus, you annoying hypocrite?
>>215494710We all do.
>>215494713>You cant believe in physics without believing in god imoSure I can. Watch me send this 4chan post to you using purely physics and human ingenuity, without god magically making the post for me.
>>215494713Yes, which is why you should believe in talking snakes and all-loving god ordering genocides of ancient Canaanies. Are you people brown?
>>215494730I don’t. Guess I’m saved and you’re not.
>>215494744It works because we uncovered the laws god wrote. There's a structure to all things. We interpret them and simulate it. It's all we can do.
>>215494747Nope schizo. Animals can talk if you make them and you're imagination is god. Don't want to go full chris chan but that was the prophets and why it's so important to throw away childish shit when you get older. Imo Einstein is on par with moses.
>>215494775It doesn't work because it's clearly not the god of the Bible. What we uncover are laws of reality, not laws imposed by some Semitic deity.
>>215494775Based scientist. I love discovering things too, like how to safely perform abortions instead of leaving it up to le sky fairy
>jews missed the boat 2000 years ago and have just been perpetually seething ever since
>>215494846You can say the same about Middle Eastern Christians.
>>215494057im jewish, what am I supposed to hate about this?
>>215494832The laws are an imposition and you are a slave to them. I have a theory that we cant even imagine the impossible it can all come true because we can only work within the confines of what's real. Chris Chan is an example of a fool who tries to bring about that reality without respect to the laws that bind him. Sonichu isn't real of course but thanks to ai and vr he kind of could be. Not crazy to think in the future we could engineer one. Terry Davis is another example.
>>215494880Fellow jew here, I know right? Why did all of those old white Hollywood protestants that run the Academy black list Mel? Praise yeshu- erm I mean Jesus
>>215494838The bible can tell you how to perform one too.
>>215494520>The Jews threatened to revolt if Jesus wasn't crucifiedOh no, the scary Jews were going to revolt? They scared Pilate? What a load of horseshit, the Romans put down Jewish revolts all the time. The Romans were the ruling body and they made the decision to crucify him. If they didn't and the Jews "revolted" they would have more than happily put more Jews to the sword.
>>215494926This one?>Do not spare them; put to death men and women, children and infants, cattle and sheep, camels and donkeys.
>>215494057Jew, here to say that worshiping a man is still considered idol worship.
>>215494926I wouldn’t use the bible as scientific reference. It said that Abraham was like 250 years old or something like that
>>215494931God simply won't allow the destruction of the jew.
>>215494542jews attack any point of white organizing that they don't directly control. Look at the KKK, for example. If you remove the murders committed by FBI plants, the KKK over its entire history only killed a handful of blacks. The reason why they still freak out over it is because it was whites organizing in a way that denied jews access and control. But now, Christianity is thoroughly non-white and under the control of jews. It no longer functions as an independent white institution. And its moral system is indistinguishable from the moral system promoted by Netflix. So, it's irrelevant. In fact, look at Yoram Hazony's 'national conservatism' psyop. Hazony is a mossad agent promoting a type of judeo-christian nationalism across the Western world and he has lots of money backing him up. They want you to be Christian at this point. Christianity acts as a cheap glue that can help maintain some kind of stability in fragmented multicultural countries. It also placates the whites, because they're importing non-white christians and the dominant culture is christian, which everyone is expected to assimilate into, the whites who embrace christianity are less likely to resist their minoritizationIt's actually quite smart. Taking this mish-mash of races and collecting them under the banned of Christianity as the common 'identity' is the next step towards finally breeding out the whites.
The funny thing about this movie is, it's one of those that changes tone completely if you make a minor tweak in perception (like how Nightmare On Elm Street 2 becomes a completely different film when you watch it with the lead character as a repressed faggot). With The Passion, it becomes almost a slapstick style comedy when you watch it and perceive Jesus as being a hardcore masochist, having the best day of his life.
>>215494428>"Israel" in the Bible doesn't mean jews
>>215494965The white race won't die. The problem is your conception of white. Asians and Arabs qualify and that hurts. When you finally realize black people are everything you claim the jew to be we can grow up as a society. Race is a coat. It's simply not real and we all have to stop crying about the men in power who gave us everything and start actually trying to emulate them and be their equal instead of just saying fuck it im fine the way I am. Which is the niggers calling card. Been listening to mlk lately. It's hilarious how the black man just threw him away. Heard a speech last night of his where he said if you're a scrub(meaning a desert bush) you should be the best damn scrub you can be. 30 years later they turned scrub into an insult and said it's the worst thing you can be. Then they blame the jews and say hitler loved them. It's hysterical. The Kanyes think they're going to be nazis lol. He only liked Jesse Robinson and the native Americans to sow division in America.
>>215494057The prequel ends with Jesus removing moneylenders
>>215494057Bible has been rewritten so many times. Mostly by Jews.
>>215494570>nothing of substance to say>There are no themes or messages in this filmreally dude? of all the things you could've said you chose "no message"? either you talked to the most retarded "Christians" on planet Earth or you are being a disingenuous faggot.The whole point of the movie is to show you that actually the jews killed Jesus Christ!!! That by the way is GOD INCARNATE ON EARTH
>>215495583I don’t think so bub, if you think Jews killed god you’re not Christian
>>215495645Yes, I'm a Catholic. The Jews killed Jesus Christ and used the Romans to do so. See>>215494074>>215494106
>>215494057Zechariah 8:23 New Living Translation (NLT)“This is what the LORD of Heaven's Armies says: In those days ten men from different nations and languages of the world will clutch at the sleeve of one Jew. And they will say, 'Please let us walk with you, for we have heard that God is with you. '”
>>215495208schizo bibble-babble. You say race is not real but the only way you can articulate your ideas is by reifying the racial categories (you white, asians, arabs blacks, jews). You're incoherent.
>>215495822Yeah, im psychotic. It's pretty chill.
>>215494475But they blamed correctly, the Romans didn't kill Jesus, you are brown.
>>215494057>(Matthew 23:5) All the works they do they do to be viewed by men; ...>(Matthew 23:6) They like the most prominent place at evening meals and the front seats in the synagogues,>(Matthew 15:14) ...Blind guides is what they are...>(Revelation 3:9) Look! I will give those from the synagogue of Satan who say they are Jews, and yet they are not but are lying—look! I will make them come and do obeisance before your feet and make them know I have loved you.>(Revelation 2:9) ‘I know your tribulation and poverty—but you are rich—and the blasphemy by those who say they themselves are Jews, and yet they are not but are a synagogue of Satan.>(Matthew 15:3) In reply he said to them: “Why is it YOU also overstep the commandment of God because of YOUR tradition?>(Mark 7:8) Letting go the commandment of God, YOU hold fast the tradition of men.”>(Matthew 3:7) ... “YOU offspring of vipers,...>(John 8:44) YOU are from YOUR father the Devil, and YOU wish to do the desires of YOUR father....>(Luke 16:14) ...money lovers, ...>(Matthew 23:4) They bind up heavy loads and put them upon the shoulders of men, but they themselves are not willing to budge them with their finger.The Bible is not Jewish agenda. In fact, Jews hate Jesus because of this. Jesus was the first true anti-Semite.
>>215496197Jesus was a jew and Jews love jesus
>>215494057Jew here who was a teenager when this came out and had to attend a meeting at my temple about "the dangers The Passion of the Christ poses to the Jewish community." The main issue was more historical, that historically in medieval and early modern times bloody passion plays frequently enflamed hatred towards Jews, and there are many documented incidents where the staging of a passion play directly caused some of its viewers to then immediately go attack a nearby Jewish village. There was a discomfort with its fairly Lukist/Johannine telling of the gospel narrative that paints the Jewish priests as the principal cause of Christ's brutal execution with the Romans as mere passive observers. Even people like Luther used this as a justification for violence against Jews, saying their continued insistence on rejecting christianity showed they would have been willing participants in his execution. Though when I saw the film I think it really does a lot to show the sadistic and barbaric cruelty of the Roman soldiers, who choose to humiliate and torture Jesus to a degree that goes far beyond excessive. All this being said I do remember people at the temple saying it was very unlikely the movie would result in a significant rise in antisemitism. But there was concern about Mel Gibson's history of anti-semitic statements, and that he would make a film that was anti-jewish for that reason.I do think after seeing the film there's really nothing anti-semitic about it. The villainizing of Jewish priests and the Jewish mob are not anything beyond what is in Luke and John. My bigger problem with the film was the ridiculous number of times it shows Jesus fall down dramatically then slowly get back up only to fall down dramatically again.
>>215495730Pontius Pilate killed Jesus and all the Jews despised him and all Romans and viewed them as occupiers.
It's a double edged sword of blasphemy and yet-to-be-declared judaizing heresy. There ought to be a new Ecumenical council on this where they declare it a new heresy, because it's popular apparently and insufferable. If someone says>Jesus is a jew.and nothing else he says two things. One, that all jews are divine like Jesus, and two, that Jesus is nothing but a mere jew. Both are lies. Jews know that they're guilty of all manner of crimes in the past and in the present, and it gives them pleasure to make a snake-like insult and bring Him down to their level. And who is He? Jesus is the Logos incarnated, an uncreated Person of the Triune God made flesh to save mankind. A jew cannot defeat death. The jews lend money with interest, make pornography, murder their own prophets, commit war crimes and spread red terror, but "Jesus is just like them you see". The Satanic chutzpah it must take to say any of that, without explicitly saying it so you're not found out. Very clever.That's one meaning of the word 'heresy', to pick and choose. If you take away something out of context from the entire Biblical and Church corpus, instead of having a holistic understanding, which takes years, and proclaim it as absolute truth over everything else you'll be severely missing the mark.If you want to know the identity of Jesus, see no further than this text, as written by the people that brought you the Bible itself.
