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OH SHIT

OH FUCK
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>>215497031
Lol I forgot this movie existed. Lmao thanks for reminding me.
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>>215497031
>Aw shit, here comes Pac-Man
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Say what you will about Stephen King, but the dude was a storytelling genius in his prime. Like, he thought "what if time-eating monsters interacted with the people on a plane trip" and then he just sat down and wrote it and it was fun to read. Many of us would have an idea like that and then just forget about it or at most jot it down for later, but King sat down and typed that shit out and it's entertaining.
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Chain chomps. King is a hack.
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>>215497090
Yeah, he wrote some good stories, no doubt. The Stand and IT are my favorite kinos- the original versions of course. Never read any of his books because I prefer short story horror in literature.
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>>215497031
He shouldn't have scared the little girl.
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>>215497031
I'm pretty sure that this movie wasn't scientifically accurate. Why would things stop having a taste if you're outside of time? Nothing else should work either, especially not the plane. Also where do the monsters come from?
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>>215497031
Thatsa a spicy meataball
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>>215497075
What's up bitches!?
I also loved to listen to that bloodhound gang song.
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>>215497160
>I'm pretty sure that this movie wasn't scientifically accurate.
Yes. The movie about a plane going through a rift in time that instakills anyone who isn't sleeping is not accurate to the laws of physics.
>Why would things stop having a taste if you're outside of time?
The meatballs are retarded.
>Nothing else should work either, especially not the plane.
It's convenient for the story.
>Also where do the monsters come from?
I dunno. They likely slipped out of some fat whore's fat ass. They may either be meatballs or sentient balls of shit.
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>>215497160
>Also where do the monsters come from?
The space between spaces
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>>215497160
They are outside the realm of reality and the entities are more a physical representation of a natural phenomena.
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>>215497031
THE GIRL
YOU SCARED HER
WE CAME
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>>215497090
That wasnt even the premise, the premise was "what if a bunch of strangers on an airplane flight suddenly found themselves isolated in an empty world?" Which is of course a lot like the Mist or the Dome.

The time-eating monsters are just a device to bring the story to a conclusion and add some tension.
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>>215497122
What are your favorite short stories? I've read much of Poe and pretty much all of Lovecraft but I'm not well versed in short story horror in general. I like Machen's The White People, Blackwood's The Willows, and some of Robert Aickman's stuff, Hodgson's The House on the Borderland is incredible.
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Best king book is Carrie by a wide margin
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>>215497122
>Never read any of his books because I prefer short story horror in literature.
he has multiple collections of that
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>>215497160
King has some lore about the "todash space" where the monsters come from. Basically they come from that.
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why does /tv/ always have better /lit/ threads than /lit/?
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>>215497278
Yeah you're right, good point. King in his prime was great at that kind of stuff. Like, just rolling with a concept. What if I as on a plane trip and almost everybody just vanished. What if I was trapped in a supermarket with a bunch of other people while there were monsters outside. What if almost everybody in 1970s America died and then the survivors found themselves in a version of the Lord of the Rings plot.
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>>215497160
Part of King's genius was precisely to ignore stuff like that. He was like "fuck that shit, I'm going to sit down and write 1000 pages about it anyway".
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>>215497299
Wrong. King is known for his looonnggg books and the original It and The Stand mini series.
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>>215497399
didnt he hate all the movies because his genius was too big to be translated to TV? or was that james herbert?
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>>215497229
The prim and the toast space.
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>>215497031
Scared the shit out of me as a kid. I was so immersed in the worldbuilding, an airport that should be teeming with life being eerily silent. No wind, no movement, noises don't sound normal. Reality has moved on, and now they're stuck in this transitioning space where nothing feels right.
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>>215497418
I don't know if he hated all the movies, the only one I know he hated was Kubrick's The Shining. I doubt he hated some of the stuff he had more control over. And it's easy to make fun of him for hating The Shining given how good it is, but I kind of understand his emotion, Kubrick's movie has very little to do with King's book. The movie is better than the book, but it's hard for an artist to not treat his works like they're his children and have a very emotional relationship with them.
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>>215497443
Yeah, I know it's become a cliche at this point, but this was an example of the whole backrooms concept, and the liminal spaces concept. Taps into eerie feelings about what common spaces like airports or schools or malls or whatever are like when there are very few people there.
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Whenever I see radio masts like this in real life while out driving, it's always a running gag for someone to go, "The Langoliers are coming".
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>>215497285
Anything by Lovecraft really- I would say The Dreams in the Witch House, The Doom That Came to Sarnath, and The Festival are up there. Ligotti is probably my favorite more contemporary horror author, even though he hasn't written much for over a decade now. The Last Feast of Harlequin, The Bungalow House, and The Strange Design of Master Rignolo- and probably The Greater Festival of Masks, especially this time of year. Poe is always fine, but his stand outs for me are Ligeah, The Fall of the House of Usher, The Mask of the Red Death and probably The Gold Bug. Clark Ashton Smith also ranks high for me, particularly The Maker of Gargoyles, The Door to Saturn, The Isle of the Torturers and The Empire of The Necromancers. His stuff is more fantasy really, but so was much of Lovecraft's and I enjoy that element just as much.
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>>215497443
Actually really cool
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>>215497512
Yeah, I don't know why Langoliers isn't linked to that stuff way more.
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>>215497478
The Stand mini series is surprisingly faithful to the book
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SCARING THE LITTLE GIRL?
LADY,
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>>215497334
because off topic threads are for people that actually enjoy the subject instead of performatively enjoying it
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>>215497222
Time to fish for 8th graders
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>>215497516
Those arent radio masts, they hold up power lines
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>>215497299
I'm vaguely familiar, but when I was reading horror novels I was more into Dean Koontz. Funny because the film adaptations of Koontz were always shit but the books were great, and when I tried to read King- as much as I loved the movies and miniseries- they just didn't hold my interest.
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>>215497285
Hodgson was such a fucking chad, a shame he died so young in WW1. Bodybuilder, horror writer, handsome, intelligent and respected, war hero. These men simply do not exist anymore.
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>>215497557
Not that anon but honestly King is one of the few horror writers who have better novels than short stories
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>>215497554
????
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The paper ripping thing lives rent free in my head 30 years later.
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>>215497534
Probably just the relative fame of The Langoliers and the age of the people involved, I would guess. I think The Langoliers was never famous or considered a notable King work until fairly recently when some people online discovered it, and most of the people who were into the backrooms meme were probably too young to have read or seen The Langoliers. I wouldn't be surprised if The Langoliers had a childhood influence on some of them, though.
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Anyone else experience the "I've seen this movie before" feeling on their first watch? Not just a false memory, but the memory of seeing it 100% before when you haven't? I swear I'm not the only one.
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>>215497585
Sorry, I meant cruise for 8th graders
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2NFl86LX3Q
cause they're hot
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>>215497525
Thanks anon. I've enjoyed a few of Clark Ashton Smith's stories. His Thebaid poem struck me many years ago. Here is the solitude... Unknown to Stylites or Anthony....
His "Moonlight on Boulder Ridge" painting really does it for me, too. Such a simple concept, but something eerie and wild about it, it reminds me of climbing over hills in my suburban neighborhood when I was a horror story loving teenager, always the sense of something mystic and profound just slightly past the edge of apparent reality, and sometimes on this side of it. Basically what Lovecraft called "adventurous expectancy", that sense of wild dimensions close by, the emotional and imaginative potency of dreams but in waking life.
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>>215497593
I remember getting lost in this huge, grand hotel in the middle of the city one time as a dumb kid. I somehow ended up on the basement level I think, and it felt like the nearest person was lightyears away. Completely empty, completely silent, but it felt like there should be tons of people filing through this long hallway and all the adjacent rooms I was wandering into. It was just a weird feeling, and that feeling I had is what the Langoliers really tapped into and then, in the modern sense, the liminal spaces trend. I think everyone's had an experience like that where they were alone on a college campus after hours or while on a vacation as a kid. Like anything cool, it gets ruined by normies eventually.
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>>215497666
Oh yeah, forgot painting
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I don't know if you guys have seen it, but someone remade it into a 90 min movie by printing out each frame on paper and doing some arts and crafts shit.

It takes something 5/10 into a solid 7.
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>>215497628
Yeah, but I forget what the movie was.
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>>215497559
Yeah, who knows how many great artists died on those soggy fields
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>>215497666 (checked)
Yeah, Smith was nothing if not a poet. He didn't even really enjoy writing prose fiction, but it was a means to make a living and there was a huge demand for pulp fiction for "Weird Tales" type publications back then. He stopped writing stories after Robert Howard and HPL both died, but he kept sculpting, drawing, and writing poetry until he died decades later. The Bard of Auburn was a truly singular individual. Sounds like you had some great adventures of your own, something about youth that really engenders that wonderful dreamlike sense of another world. I still read fantasy and horror all the time, but I can't lose myself in those worlds the way I did back then. It's such a shame really. The Silver Key by HPL really hits that note beautifully with the opening line "When Randolph Carter was thirty, he lost the key to the gate of dreams."
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>>215497628
Also had the same feeling for The Dark Half.
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I LOST MONEY FOR YOU
I LOOOOST MONEY FOR YOU
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>>215497718
I'm of the opinion that Hollywood is at a state of such ridiculous creative paucity that they're better off just finding random genre fiction stories from the first half of the 20th century and making adaptations of them, because they are far more interesting than anything Hollywood can do today. Just open any old magazine like Weird Stories and you can find gems. Look at the 80s and how old horror stories like The Thing or The Fly got turned into classics.
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>>215497031
was it MH370 disclosure?
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>>215497756
I agree, it's pathetic how everything has been reduced to remakes, sequels, prequels and reboots of established franchises; none of which have even a fraction of the creative spark that their source material contained. At this point I primarily just watch old stuff from the 80s and 90s anyways, as it seems far more suited to my preferences on every level.
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Really a fucked up movie when you think back on it. Craig stabbing the little girl for no reason and shit.
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>>215497718
I think the key to the gate of dreams is never truly lost, but Lovecraft probably was so attuned to his dream life that at some points in his life he felt like he was losing it because it grew relatively dim. That sense of losing the key to the gate of dreams is all over many of his stories. Yet I doubt that he ever actually lost it.
I myself have often felt that the emotions in my dreams are more real than those in my waking life. In my waking life, there is a webwork of thought laced on top of the raw feelings that dulls the nature of those raw feelings, the immediacy. Lovecraft's adventurous expectancy, I think, has to do with what happens when that immediacy erupts into waking consciousness,
You might enjoy this series of posts:
https://www.teemingbrain.com/2006/10/16/autumn-longing-cs-lewis/
https://www.teemingbrain.com/2006/10/30/autumn-longing-hp-lovecraft/
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>>215497717
The jew orchestrated the deaths of the best of us.
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Who would win?
>1000 Langoliers
VS
>Madara
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>>215497823
>a webwork of thought laced on top of the raw feelings that dulls the nature of those raw feelings, the immediacy.
That's TRON world
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>>215497090
No shit, he wrote Shawshank redemption
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>>215497871
What's TRON world? I haven't seen any of the Tron movies.
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>>215497823
I still dream of course, but they are never flights of fantasy to ancient ruins. There is rarely a sense of something tremendous, nameless, and ancient. When I was younger I would sleep and see such vistas... I still keep a dream journal, but they're usually basic things, fears, desires, recycled content from life. I don't know what changed, but it happened sometimes when I started to feel more old than young. I'll definitely give both these posts a read, big fan of both Lewis and Lovecraft. Thanks for sharing!
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>>215497895
I can sympathize. When I was younger often my dreams would be about being in some kind of vast bookstore, and I would find all sorts of books that contained the secrets of the universe, but then right about when I would check out at the counter or maybe right after I would check out, I would wake up or the dream would switch. Now that I'm older, my dreams still often have this tantalizing quality of raw emotion that is diluted in my waking life, but my dreams are not so much about vistas, they are more about human relationships, like for example I would dream about having a better relationship with my stepfather than I actually do, and when I wake up I might jot down some notes about what I can do to actually improve my relationship with him. Or I'll have a dream where I fall in love with a woman, and it's like falling in love with a woman in real life, but stripped of the thoughts that in real life tend to overlay and muddy the experience, and instead just clean and potent like a newborn baby's vision. I think that falling in love, mystic dream visions of a deeper notion of the world, the way the moon looks on a night of adventure... all are of the same nature, and it's something very real, maybe the most important thing of all.
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This was actually scary back in the day.
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>>215497895
>recycled content from life.
This.
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>>215497987
Yes! I can remember dreaming about a bookstore many years ago, but the books were portals into other worlds and I could open any one of them and actually travel into other dreams, other places... Maybe it was just a kind of lucid dreaming combined with an overactive imagination. Now books in my dreams are all scribbles and nonsense, like the clocks or screens- they just don't work.
>it's something very real, maybe the most important thing of all
I couldn't agree more, but sometimes it feels like this world is the worst place to be an idealistic dreamer. Those dreams of a pure, perfect romance are so completely removed from the base, banal reality that it rises the bile to even draw comparison between the two.
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>>215497031
So stephen king made an entire horror series about his coke nostrils?
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>>215497222
Aw shit here comes pacman
Hey pacman, what's up?
Me you bitches, I'm high on crack. Wanna freebase?
No pacman drugs are bad
No can't help you mate
Pussies!
HoOoOlyYy sShHiIiIt!


Can still recite it
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>>215497365
What's the last one
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>>215498101
I actually kind of disagree. I think I've had several women fall in love with me in that mad, wild, child-like way of dreams. I was the one one who fucked it up. Because I had too much thought-structure or ego-structure, I found fault with what it was. I was not present enough to understand that they had fallen deeply in love with me. I had been too poisoned by my young years of being shy and frustrated with women, and then my reaction to that was to make myself hard and try to turn myself into a pick-up artist. Which helped me to meet and have sex with a lot of attractive women, but by doing it I lost the child-like emotion of true love. Even when the girl was madly in love with me I wouldn't see it, or I wouldn't want it because in my mind, I'd view committing to her as a loss of freedom rather than as an opportunity to explore the mysteries of another person's being. And maybe I was right in doing that, maybe those women weren't fundamentally right for me somehow. But I wonder, I'm not sure. Every person has mysterious depths even if they don't seem like it. I've had a lot of frivolous bad sex with attractive women, but I rejected any woman who was actually in love with me, cause I was afraid of losing the option of having sex with other women, I felt trapped. But I wonder now if all that sense of being trapped was just me projecting my own neurosis on them, and they never wanted to trap me to begin with, they just fell in love with me for better or for worse.
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>>215498207
The Stand. King said that he was inspired in part by wanting to write a Lord of the Rings for modern America. There are many commonalities, like small groups of people going through a mostly empty world with high stakes, or how the protagonists don't actually win completely through their own impulse, it takes an added act of god to destroy the evil, or how the bad guy tends to return after being defeated.
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>>215497031
pokey girl was a great touch
what a wonderful movie
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>>215497443
Nothing but bare surfaces everywhere, not even a proper apocalypse where you can play with toys. Truly nightmarish.
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>>215497031
For me, it's gotta be the night flyer.
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>>215497334
>why does /tv/ always have better /lit/ threads than /lit/?

I dunno mate, that was quite the ride...
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>>215497399
That's drugs.
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>>215498584
>drugs
Most weird things in the world can be explained with that single word.
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>>215497669
Hotels in general can be like that. Nobody's hanging out in hotel corridors after all, so once you move away from the lobby the place seems deserted because anyone there is in their room.
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I thought the blind girl was cute when I first saw it, I was 7 or so.
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>>215497586
>>215497031
>>215497443
Holy crap, I saw this air on TV when I was in middle school or something.
Didn't that guy have a meeting to catch and was melting about missing it?
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>>215498172
This you?
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>>215497031
>"I don't owe you anything! I don't owe you anything! I don't owe you anything!"
What grunge band paid tribute to the Langoliers in their first music video hit?
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>>215497031
bad cg aside this was great
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>>215497031
Fight me.
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>>215497478
kubrick literally took a shit on the book on purpose because he knew king would be mad. then king bought the rights back, made his own tv series version of shining, faithful to the book, and everyone was able to see that it was shit compared to kubrick's.
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more like langoqueers haha
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>>215497090
>dude was a storytelling genius in his prime. Like, he thought "what if time-eating monsters interacted with the people on a plane trip" and then he just sat down and wrote it
that's not a genius, that's just a fucking faggot
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>>215497090
it's always the same characters in different stories though, really tiresome
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>>215497031
We have lovecraftian RPGs but what about Kingesque RPGs ?
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>>215500579
Earthbound
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What a guy!
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>>215497160
>Also where do the monsters come from?
I thought they were just part of how the universe works, just an unexplainable thing that just happens. When time for us 'passes' it just gets eaten by these things, under normal circumstances they would just never come in contact with beings from our reality
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>>215497987
For me, I still have nightmares about college, all these years later. Missing whole semesters by mistake, missing final exams, etc. But sometimes I dream about the gigantic reference section in the campus library. It was like a massive vault of books and bound editions of journals. Nobody ever went in there. Just me and more more books than I could read in ten lifetimes. No windows, no library staff, just stacks and desks. It was out of use, few of the books were in the right places. So I had to wander around to find what material I needed. It would get a bit creepy. Kinda like the Backrooms.
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>>215497031
This is the only movie that terrified me as a kid. I had nightmares for years. When I got older I thought back to it and realised that what made it so scary was not the langoliers themselves, but the reactions people had to them. The movie captures the essence of fear and transmits it to the viewer. I was scared cause the people in the movie were terrified.
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>>215499552
Was it Trash Boat?
https://youtu.be/g5raXyz4gfc
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is this one of those threads where OP replies to himself for 2 days until it auto sages?
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>>215497031
A caught this kino randomly on tv at night as a kid. It was awesome.
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>>215497895

i once had a dream where I went to ancient rome and ran up to some wealthy patricians who mocked me as a "puls-eater" and when I woke up I had no idea what that means so I went online and learned that puls was basically porridge with salt in it and you ate it if you were a really poor person, like if you didnt live in a nice enough house to be able to grind up your grain and bake it you could always just soak it, boil it into slop and eat it like the retard you were.

I mentioned this dream to a classics professor when I was in college and he said that I must have been a shitpoor plebian in a past life and the entire class laughed at me
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>>215501262
>he said that I must have been a shitpoor plebian in a past life and the entire class laughed at me
Based professor
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>>215501262
Damn, that sucks. I'm guessing you read that term in a textbook or it was said in movie, and you didn't remember it at the time. But your subconscious recalled it in the context of the dream.
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>>215497075
>"What if we take Pac-man, but make him evil and make him eat people?"
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For every good Stephen King movie/TV adaption there are at least 5 goofy ass ones
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>>215501453
This movie is NOT goofy
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>>215501453
I remember the Tommyknockers being goofy. Storm of the Century was also kinda goofy. Dream catcher was likewise goofy.
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>>215497122
Is the stand miniseries kino? I love the book.
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Cocaine.

I despise Kings books. I met the dude in Lemon Bay so say what you will but the guy is a junkie. I consider him to be the literary equivalent of Keith Richards. I've never been to Maine but I would be willing to give it to Canada if they took King with it.

Can I get a Leaf to accept that deal?
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>>215501593
its more likely you pay a PR firm to turn your drug habit into a mythical writing tool when you really are just using your name and having ghost writers sign NDAs
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>>215497090
Cocaine.
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>>215498172
The asian girl was in the music video was in the slideshow.
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>>215501518
Mr gray was awesome, in the book and the movie. Damien lewis on the snowmobile was hilarious/terrifying.
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>>215497090
but it wasn't fun to read, and the Langoliers was a really shitty miniseries.
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>>215497090
Yeah, turns out doing a bunch of coke and speed makes it easy to write
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>>215501523
The original is kinda bland, the remake is woke trash. Just stay with the book.
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>>215502114
I find the opposite true. Too easy to get distracted and just compulsively redose until you're too fucked up.

But I suppose back in a pre internet/pc day you could get sucked into writing rather than porn and vidya
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>>215502114
I find the opposite true. Too easy to get distracted and just compulsively redose until you're too fucked up.

But I suppose back in a pre internet/pc day you could get sucked into writing rather than porn, vidya and shit posting
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>>215497160
It’s not scientifically accurate to physics as we understand it, but the whole point was they just happened to basically fall out of reality through a random gap into the place where the past is destroyed. Because the traditional idea of time where things remain and just get changed isn’t true, instead every moment is just frozen until it’s eaten and destroyed by the langoliers. Some kind of inter dimensional cleanup clew

Interesting idea

All the details. Like why you’d need to be asleep during the journey to not get erased, or why food doesn’t taste of anything. Arent explained and don’t need to be. They’re just weird laws and details of unreality

Same with how when they get back they first think they fucked up because nobodies around, until time “catches up” with them and they see a whole days worth of people speeding around while they press against walls to avoid getting hit by them
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>>215502114
I find the opposite true. Too easy to get distracted and just compulsively redose until you're too fucked up.

But I suppose back in a pre internet/pc day you could get sucked into writing rather than porn, vidya, tv shows and shit posting
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>>215497707
That’s cool in theory but the trailer just looks like they put a filter over the film instead of printing up the pages for every frame
Seems like a cool idea but they could have done more with it
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>>215497545
TIME? WHAT THE HELL DO YOU KNOW ABOUT TIME?!

ASK ME ABOUT TIME!
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>>215497443
Some of the best version of liminal spaces
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>>215502067
I think that's a good way of describing the character. Very comical, yet frightening.
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didn't even know this trash existed until I came across youtube reviews of it came around a million yrs later
good lord there was so much inexcusable garbage on tv in the 90s
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>>215497334
/Lit/ is full of pseuds trying to troll each other. /tv/ is full of trolls talking about stuff.
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Watching this right now and the schoolteacher looks exactly like Edie Falco but with long hair.
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>>215502212
>>215502265
>>215502352
lol



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