Holy shit. This was some dark ending. I wasn't expecting this.
/tv/ was so hyped for this and then it sucked so bad. Really the start of Snyderslop.
>>215504438It was amazing. Females being treated as God intended. Male boss is infinitely smarter and smells their retarded plot. They get busted disobeying. Everyone dies and brat with main character syndrome gets lobotomized. The end. The ending was beautiful.
>>215505445Wrong!!!!!!!!The entire film is everything it pro.ised and the audience failed the artist. The soundtrack is still playing on my speakers.
>>215505445The movie was fantastic. Audience wasn't ready for that level of kino.
>>215504438I got to enjoy nice brappers for 2 hours so I rate this movie 10/10
Great concept, great tone, terrible writing, terrible acting
>>215505445It's actually a hit on Letterboxd of all places.
>>215505445I never fapped so much except for Flabby Cornish
>ugliest girl is the one that escapes and gets the most screen time after the main character
>>215507148How do asian women get a buff on ass appeal? It's like an ass that would ok on any other race looks better on asian women somehow.
>>215504438Literally one of my most top hated films I ever went to the theaters to see, I genuinely would of left if I wasn't with others, it simply annoyed me that it was all a dreamscape and none of it had a purpose past saying Man bad! Girls are pretend strong!If it had removed the idiotic background story and went full action retard CGI it would of been bearable slop but it is literally a turd in dress-up slathered in CGI and being thrown at a wall.
The samurai fight is the best thing ever and has inspired me to take on filmmaking. Get prepared to seethe at my creative spectacles.
>>215507180That's your fault for not torrenting
>>215507180>If it had removed the idiotic background story and went full action retard CGII agree but it probably wouldn't have been greenlit unfortunately
>>215504438At least this film showed that the girlboss delusion is just that, a delusion and irl the fate of every woman is to get fucked by whomever and the only think women can do is Dream about kicking ass and taking names, because at the end of the day all women are just lobotomized retards.
>>215507345You really hate women. Get help.
Have anyone read the script?The script overexplain everything the movie left out and the ending is extremely fucked up.There's supposedly a director's cut following the script.
>>215507180>it simply annoyed me that it was all a dreamscape and none of it had a purpose past saying Man bad! Girls are pretend strong!You're a retard. Everything has a purpose in the movie. Literally everything. It's a movie about MK Ultra.
>>215507443I don't hate women but that's just the truth, if you can't bear the truth then you should go back to rebbit
>>215507489Fine it did but the over dramatizing what they did covered up with CGI fantasy with the stupid writing and actors still made it trash for me. I've for sure forgotten a lot about the film since I saw it over a decade ago but I know I'll never watch it again to care.
>>215507826That's fine, but you're still wrong about the movie.
>>215504438Coomcore
In the original script they show a recreation room where Babydoll painted all the outlandish worlds of her fantasy, and show the result of all the reckless stuff she did in her fantasies like the burnt kitchen.She also gets lobotomized by the doctor and is then taken by the security guard that hated her to the basement, where she is raped. The story ends with the security guard getting annoyed that Babydoll won't stop smiling despite being raped, and as he uses as a flashlight on her eyes wondering why the fuck she is smiling so much the scene transition to a stage light where she and all the killed dances are dancing and happy.Basically the movie telling us the only real escape was through complete dissassociation.
>>215506513super fucked, even as a troll
>>215507990
>>215508048Super fucked up ending. They apparently filmed this, but WB refused to release a cut of it.
>>215508091Wish we could see it. There's way more sexual assault in the script as well. I want to see the rape cut.
>>215507990This would have been purest kino.
>>215508120Here's an explanation for the crazy fantasy worlds, the script goes more in depth about where she got the inspiration and such.
>>215508120>>215508218And here's the continuation of the ending.
>>215505445Imagine getting filtered by a Zac Snyder kino. Let me guess, you have bobs and vagene.
>>215507345kek based I've never watched this film from this perspective. The film now ascended into 7.5/10 in my book
>>215508236Basically, WB issue with the original cut, according to Snyder and the main actress, is that they felt the ending was too weird and depressing, with the impression that the bad guys won the day. They also felt that the movie glorified rape.So most of the sexual stuff was taken out and the ending was changed to focus on the one girl escaping, so the movie could end on a more hopeful note.
This is the first movie that made me take notice of Oscar Issac, he really stood out. Maybe it helps that everything else is bad, but his performance made me ask "who is that guy"?
>I was influenced by the movie Frances. It's about Frances Farmer and how she was this famous actress who got lobotomized and put into a mental institution and was raped in there. I saw it in 1982, so that would make me a sophomore in high school. At the same time, All That Jazz was a big influence on me. So it's like All That Jazz and Frances had a baby and in some ways it was me, and in other ways it was this idea that just sort of started to percolate. About MK Ultra, you know? If you know about it, you know. That's why I think it's set in this ambiguous sort of late 1950s, early 1960s world. All bets are off as far as the rules of engagement at a mental institution. Once you're checked in you're crazy; your rights are gone. You don't have any say.>Brazil was a big influence on the movie as well. I'd say those three movies really - Brazil, Frances, and All That Jazz really were the main influences of the movie. I've never gotten around to doing the director's cut. I still plan to at some point. But in the original ending when Babydoll is in the chair in the basement with Blue - she's already been lobotomized - when the cop shines the light on her, the set breaks apart and she stands up and she sings a song on stage. She sings, “Ooh, Child, things are gonna get easier.” Blondie, and all the people that have been killed, join in to dance this big sexy number and it's the idea that in a weird way, even though she's lobotomized, she's kind of stuck in this infinite loop of euphoric victory. It's weirdly not optimistic and optimistic at the same time. The reason I wanted John Hamm to do his character is it felt like, in a weird way, he's also a liberator. Even though he's the instrument of destruction, he's also the one that locks Babydoll into the loop where she's free of everything. He is lobotomizing her, he is raping her, but he is also freeing her.>That's kind of what the tone was at the end. The studio thought it was too weird, so we changed it.
>The action was always dance-metaphor, right? And so the dance doesn't necessarily have the same tension as an action scene normally. For me, when I was working on the action sequences with Damon Caro, I was always like, “No, no. It should be more blissful. It should be more lyrical than tense.” I'm not that concerned with the peril than I am with the bliss of the in-mind empowerment of what Babydoll is doing in the moment. The dance is her power. Her sexual power, her athletic power, her everything.>Everything that's empowered about the way she moves, that is seductive, that is the destroyer of worlds - she's fully in it. So when she's doing the action sequences, I wanted her to be unbeatable. I know in some ways it goes against the concept of action. It only fails in the final action sequence where Jenna gets stabbed - it’s the only time she's vulnerable. And even then she's able to kind of kick it back in a little bit with the combo of music. I was fascinated by this idea of music and movement and spectacle being the ultimate drug that is impossible to snap out of. That's kind of what they're seeing when Baby Doll's dancing normally.>That's kind of the point of the movie - the seduction of imagery and the disassociation caused trauma and stress. The girls needed to be lifted up. These mental patients have zero value to anyone, right? But in the world of their minds, even though they feel to be in a brothel of sorts, they're incredibly valuable and incredibly talented and fierce. And then the layer deeper, when Babydoll is dancing and she has to remove herself from the exploitation of what she's doing to seduce these scummy characters, they're one step more powerful. All of it is compounded as you move away from the reality of just being the victim of this bad orderly at a mental institution, being fucked in the basement of this mental institution with no agency to protect yourself.
One day...
>>215508248God I want to facefuck a bratty girl who looks like that. Put her on her back, head hanging off the bed and just fuck her throat until your balls ache.
>>215506538>>215506840>>215506513good morning
>>215508471Emily Browning is on record complaining about the studio and rating board not getting such ending.>“I had a very tame and mild love scene with Jon Hamm. It was like heavy breathing and making out. It was hardly a sex scene… I think that it’s great for this young girl to actually take control of her own sexuality during this rape of her body. Well, the MPAA doesn’t like that. They don’t think a girl should ever be in control of her own sexuality because they’re from the Stone Age. I don’t know what the fuck is going on and I will openly criticize it, happily. So essentially, they got Zack to edit the scene and make it look less like she’s into it. And Zack said he edited it down to the point where it looked like he was totally taking advantage of her. It wasn't anymore a rape where she finds power, where she finds love, but a rape where she is entirely the victim. That’s the only way he could get a PG-13 (rating) and he said, ‘I don’t want to send that message.’ So they cut the scene!”
>>215507171I think it's the whole package. Asian women balance the femininity, youth and have that exotic look while in other races in get one or the other.
>>215504438The Asian girl gave me the fever so bad
>>215504438This movie is slop for prepubescent, horny boys who are obsessed with video games.
>>215508236kek, that explains why the movie opens with a curtain, but yeah i remember Snyder talking about it as a musical ending that WB wanted gone when the movie came out
>>215504438>This was some dark ending. I wasn't expecting this.well yeah, its in the title
I dunno anything about this movie other than its got a buncha girls dreaming about being anime characters or someshit? Based on the replies in here im gonna say it has alot to do about either rape or escaping a super shitty life situation
>>215508965I forgot the movie opened with a curtain on a stage. Man, now i want the original ending, even if it seems depressing as fuck. Change the rape to be less brutal and you've a solid ending.
>>215505445Actually Snyder's best.
>>215508997nailed it
>>215508997The rape is not present in the actual cut of the movie we have right now. The sex stuff is merely implied because everything is cut to the fantasy worlds.I wish we had the rape scenes, unironically.
>the cute tomboy bites it firstPain.
>>215507464I was 16 when I saw it in theaters with my friends and I understood the subtext without the script, people need to stop being brown mouthbreathers and learn how to read between the lines.
>>215504438I watched this movie a couple months ago and was shocked by just how "cinematic" movies used to look not even 15-years ago. It is unbelievable. And it can't just be that they were shot on film, but the lighting, staging and composition of shots, et cetera were all better and had more thought and effort put into them. Streaming and digital really lowered everybodys standards and expectations.
>>215510702The worse is seeing how Snyder degraded once he started using the RED digital cameras, something that David Finch pushed unto him. That shit ruined him visually as a director.
>>215508586>take control of her own sexuality during this rape of her bodyWTF rape is now empowering
>>215511160what cameras he usually used before
