1987 or 2014?
>>2155056681971
>>215505668It took months of training for peter weller to move and walk like a robot.
>>215505668Is there a more egregious example of soul vs soulless?
>>215505668I like many of 2014s ideas but overall the original had a much better execution.
>>215505668Wings of silver, nerves of steel~
>>215505668Looks like what happened with Iron Man's armor.
>>215507277Months of training that were for nothing when it turned out that the suit was too clunky for fluid movements.
1987 is still kino, while 2014 is pretty much forgotten. The only thing I still remember from 2014 was where they actually showed what "full body prosthesis" actually means. That shit was good, and I think Verhoeven wouldn't have minded having something like that in his movie.Otherwise 2014 was a forgettable movie.
>>215509102It wasnt supposed to be fluid movement, thats why it took months of training.
>>215509211He's saying the suit itself forced jerky robotic movements because of how it was made.
>>215509291And he said that training was needed in order to move like a robot
>>2155056682014 was dog shitSleeker appearance, sure. But the human hand and activated helmet was shit
>>215509337Peter Weller is a fucking retard.
>>215509351Let's see you make a movie as good as Robocop.
>>215509394Weller being kino doesn't preclude him from being a retard.
>>215505668I recently played the game, I really liked it.Is way better than the sequels.
>>215509410Let's see you not be retarded too.
>>215505668Not watched 2014 and I never will.
>>215505668i've never watched a modern day remake of any classic movie, never will. Simple as.
>>215510089Carpenter's The Thing is really good. '88 Blob is really good too.
I dont understand the question. Is it related to the picture somehow? The year is 2025.
>>215507305The Lion King.
>>215505668Original you motherfucker. Best robocop best theme best scenes best villain best stance when firing the gun best special effects best everything.I wouldn't buy the demake for a dollar.
>>215509102Nah the problem came during the filming when in the suit it looked like he was rolling his haunches and ass like a hooker whenever the camera was behind him so they had to make it so all scenes had robocop either on the side or facing the camera. You never see him walking when the camera is behind him because of that.
>>215505668Idgaf he looks cool in the remake. Cope and seethe.
>>215510261The year is 2027
>>215505668Right. Left looks clunky.
>>215510746>>215510623Jizz drinking faglord's idea of a baithttps://youtu.be/Kb1_38445vA
>>215505668Had the original Robocop never been made, the new one would've been an ok sci-fi flick. But because the 1987 one exists, it's hard to not view it as superior. 2014 was just the superficial appeal of the concept without any deeper meaning.
>>215505668Left, but right would still mog any modern take on Robocop. Rogue City doesn't count as it was made by a fairly small studio with no pressure from the Hollywood machine.
>>215505668Mix of both.
>>215509394I'm the director of Star Wars: The Force Awakens. Hi 4chan, please stop hating my people.
>>215505668this is not a serious question from a serious person
>>215505668soul vs souless
>>215505668It was all Marvel's fault. Because of Marvel, all movies are now lazy pieces of shit.
>>215505668The answer is obvious but I will say the reboot was not nearly as bad as some make it out to be.
>>215505668The original Robocop is about an Operating System that is plugged into a corpse and gains self awareness taking on the identity of the corpse due to the strength of Murphy’s latent memories.The remake is about a man who is badly wounded and turned into a brain trapped in a suit, with his free will removed, who has to learn to overcome his captors through his human willpower.The different suits serve different purposes to show these different themes.
>>215505668Real answerRobocop 1 > Robocop 2 = Robocop 2014 > Robocop 3I haven't finished the show yet so I can't compare it.
>>215511583Hello director and or screenwriter of RoboCop (2014)
Robocop 3 is an underrated masterpiece. Only midwits hate it.
>>215511677Checked
>>215511416The scene where it shows him as a brain and heart/lungs and everything else gone was pretty cool. It was also filmed in actual Detroit. Otherwise, the original is better in all metrics.
>>215505668The remake made Robo run, which is bullshit. Turned that shit off immediately.
>>215511583None of these themes were explored well in the 2014 version, tho
>>215506938i have the touch
>>215505668Michael Keaton as the bad guy was the only thing in the remake that wasn't completely shit
>>215505668I wonder what 80s film makers would've done with modern effects technology
>>215505668Robocop was never good.
>>215505668Would have made a better RoboCop 2 than the giant robot. How hard is it to try and remake the cyborg, but it turns evil (and black).
2014 could have been the cat's ass if they stuck with an r rating and went for gore/swearing/tits/etc. instead they made it a pg13 CAPITALISM IS LE BAD snoozefest.
I don't know why the did the black Suit. This was good.
>>215512902Partly metal, partly real~
>>215510790>nooooo cyborgs should look like boxes
I really don't get the whole "let's make it PG13 because it will make more money that way" it just makes people not give a fuck about the movie. Everybody remembers the chest-burster scene from Alien. Everyone remembers Arnold de-gloving himself to show his robot endoskeleton to Dyson. Violence can actually be incredibly important for the narrative. You REALLY don't want the alien face hugger to grab you. Why? You just saw wtf happens when it gets you. The T1000 is a really scary/threatening villain. Why? We see what it does.I've never even seen Robocop (2014) and I don't ever intend to kek. Why? PG13 SLOP.
>>215513107To be fair, the disassembling scene is pretty gnarly
>>215513133I have seen that scene, yeah. But I am guessing there is nothing else in the movie that is that visually provocative/intense.
>>215510089Based unbothered king.>>215510249assmad redditor who feels personally attacked.
>>215513182The only other thing that I remember about is the SEXO turn around sound
>>215511718> It was also filmed in actual DetroitIt was mostly filmed in Canada iirc
>>215505668What happens when you pull 1987's foot lever?
>>215509410he's a genius with 5phds
>>215505668The asshole from the reboot has the most forgettable face ever. You stop looking at him and is his face gets automatically erased from your memories, impossible to remember.This person was chosen to replace someone with a memorable face, i fucking hate modern movies.
>>215509410Robo wants Oreo
>>215505668The second one has Melanie Scrofano in it, so it wins.
>>215512902It was supposed to be a tease. Have fans get a little upset at the corporate goon saying their favorite robocop suit was too silly and needed to be tacticool. Then reveal the silver suit so fans could soiface. The director underestimated how much fans will jerk each other off into a foaming at the mouth seething rage just from seeing a few still images and not actually watching the movie
>>215505668Most people don't even know the 2014 version exists.
The entire central concept of the original is the question of whether "Murphy" is really alive as Robocop or not. When you take that away you don't have a movie anymore, you just have a guy in a mech suit.
this movie died the second the studio executives turned it PG13thank god it didint do that well
>>215509447>those janky unfinished cutscenes that make GMod slop look like a magnum opus>all the guns sound the same meanwhile fps's have unique gun sounds from 20 years ago>awful performance, game obviously made by JeetsYou have dogshit taste
>>215514130>>215511583Thanks for enunciating that. The remake absolutely failed to capture how existentially fucked up Murphy is, and I don't mean in the "he got all his limbs shot off" wayThe movie's script went far beyond the special effects to highlight that Robocop only has the most tenuous connection to Alex Murphy, he doesn't really have memories, he doesn't always have feelings, he lost a lot more than his flesh. Yes, it is in fact possible that he is entirely a machine that's LARPing as a guy that's entirely dead. That's why he's so godamn strange and autistic.The whole "You could never be her husband again" thing isn't just about him missing his dick lol2014 Murphy in comparison seems to have nothing mentally wrong with him. In spite of being reduced to a fucking severed head and some lungs, he's obviously 100% the same dude, existentially, that he was before he asploded. He could in fact pretty easily just go home and be a husband and father still, without much more complication than some asshole in a wheelchair.
>>215513107I remember that in the remake a lame explosion is what nearly kills him, but only because it's such an downgrade from getting several point blank gun shots
>>215513770Shut your whore mouth talking about Kinoman, portrayer of based Admiral Ed Baldwin, stealer of asteroids.
>>215514812>I just forgot thatIt works in post form too, damn.
>>215505668>inspiration for 1987 version was unironically Judge Dredd>inspiration for 2014 version was The Gimp from Pulp Fictionwhich way white man
>>215505668It's so annoying how they completely missed the point of Robocop's OG design. He's SUPPOSED to be kind of clunky and awkward. He's a first prototype hack job that barely functions as it should and has glaring holes in it's design (can't move fast, probably couldnt get itself up, cucked by stupid protocol, original face hastily slapped on top of robot skull). In the remake he's just sleek and perfect and could probably do all sorts of ninja shit, I dont know, I havent seen the remake and never will. Robocop is a perfect film that needs no improvement.Except for maybe pic related
>>215513871Did they even have the silver suit in the reboot? I remember him in the black one throughout the movie
>>2155056682014 story is extremely underappreciated.>>215515201>It's so annoying how they completely missed the point of Robocop's OG designThey were telling an entirely different story.
>>215512528They kind of do that idea in Robocop 3 where he fights the Japanese android, but it comes off as goofy and hamfisted instead of cool.
>>215515201In 2014 the OG Robocop body 'was' the first prototype, but they then skip over to the next.
>>215516247
>>215513716foot job mode: engaged - stimulation speed: machine shop accident - safety overrides: off
>>2155056682014 will only be remembered for the "hold the crust" meme
>>215516247holy shit my fucking sides
>>215516247bitches leave
>>215516247this is spliced together from two different episodes, i hope?
>>215509211https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66uduSIp-3ktl;dwWeller worked with a mime and they initially developed a stylized fluid movement.Robocop suit didn't show up until 20 days into production (they were shooting all the Murphy scenes up to then.)Suit arrives, takes like 10 hours to get into the suit. Weller can barely move.They bring the mime guy back in over the weekend. They tear out parts of the suit, redevelop the movements to be slow, deliberate, exaggerated.
>>215510569https://youtu.be/4067JlShikU?t=25
The 2014 movie had some good ideas here and there but it wasn't a Robocop movie, let alone the remake they intended it to be.
>>215515201they didn't miss the point
>>215505668Why even ask that?The original is an all time classic. The reboot was forgotten immedietly after release.
>>215505668>classic movie gets remade as a cheap imitation with a black leadMany such cases!>>215507277Too bad they didn't have /r9k/ back then.>>215509107I only remember the >>215516274 scene and that prime Abbie Cornish was the female lead.
>>215507847Absolutely
>>215511583I think you got those mixed up
>>215510249The Thing and The Blob aren't really modern
>>215511001Marvel could happen because movies were already becoming lazy shit
>>215511677Tell that to the genius kid controlling the ED209 and flying robocop
>>215512283Difficult to say. All they did they did because they had to deal with limitations.basically modern cgi would make them worse filmmakers, even if many shit effect would look infinitely better
>>215515371>They were telling an entirely different story.A bad one, and failedAnd next time don't call it robocop
>>215505668How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?
>>215521209?
>>215505668The original because it felt like a prototype. The jankiness added realism to him. It's a shame because I really wanted Padilha to succeed in the international mainstream, but that's not his kind of movie at all. Mike Stoklasa saying that he's a literal who was understandable, but at the same time it was one of the many reasons to make him lose my respect for him. Being a self proclaimed film buff and not knowing the guy who made Tropa de Elite or probably not knowing the movie or its sequel at all kinda proves that he only watches Hollywood stuff and the meme mainstream international ones. Of course, Tropa de Elite is a meme Brazilian movie, but you get my point.
Almost the entire reboot was utterly forgettable. The only memorable scene is when they take his body apart and show him that he's just a head and lungs and even his brain was missing chunks. If the whole movie was that good then maybe it would have been something special.
>>215521130constraints are basedas soon a fags think they can get away with anything we end up where we are today
>>215516274absolutely mogged by cain brain in a jar
I liked Elite SquadShame the Robocop remake was so fucking shit I genuinely think on paper that director could have done a good job and there's a few standout scenes hidden among the rest of the movie
>>215505668all they had to do was keep him in the silver suit in the new one and it would have been just a tad less gay
>>2155056682014 had a great and realistic explanation for why he got changed to black. The original body he got put in was silver, but in the movie the marketing research guys were like "But black will make him look cooler" so they changed it out
>>215513107>I've never even seen Robocop (2014) and I don't ever intend to kek. This.
>>215512902Doesn't Keaton say black is cool?
>wakes up in fucking China>panics and grabs the first person he sees by the collar, shouting WHERE AM I? in their face>drops them and keeps running without waiting for an answerIt wasn't meant to be funny but it was.
>>215515183The other big inspiration for the OG was Space Sheriff Gavan
>>215510569Robussy clapping while he walks nigga really?
>>215509351He just wanted his oreos
>>215521925Yeah, he picks black for marketing purposes (and also because lol Batman joke)
I'm sure all you spergs have already seen it but check out RoboDoc if you're unfamiliar, it's a 4 hour documentary on the making of one of the best movies ever made and they got back pretty much every still living cast member for interviews
>>215515238He's silver when he first wakes up and keeps it for a few training sessions before they switch him to black, but he's back in silver at the end.
>>215521638True
>>215512902Even this one is too busy and most importantly, the shape of it, all the features are way too organic in shape. It does not work for Robocop. Goddamn that remake was shit. Nothing worked. Some of the lamest shootout action scenes I ever seen in a big movie
>>215523452Yeah, nothign about him says robot. That's jsut a guy in a high tech suit
>>215513051that's what a cyborg is RETARD
>>215510718>Jensen's trilogy never going to get finishedFUCK Squeenix
>>215505668Can't wait for new installment starring Lily Rose Depp
2014Sleeker suit, fine. But the silver & black suit just doesn't look rightHelmet looks shitHuman hand, face & lungs are shitThe gun situation was badHaving a bike was good
Half the reason the original Robocop was kino was Clarence and his gang and the new one didn't have an antagonist that was anywhere near as compelling
>>215515201They didn't miss the point, you did. OG Robo is a commentary on 80's neoliberal reforms where corpos privatize everything, including police activity, and everything is for sale, including people's souls (like Murphy's). Nu-Robo is a commentary on an era of drone warfare and government overreach and the industrial-military complex, Nu-Robo is meant to be the industrial-military complex making strides within America instead of just outside, and the sleekness of his design and ninja level of skills is meant to reflect the argument in favor of these policies.This doesn't mean the movie is particularly well made, just that you have a capeshit fan approach to the character.
Both suits work fine for the cinema world they exist in. The OG robo cop is this busted barely working cyberpunk like world. He needs to be chunky, awkward and silver. In real life a lot of tech was silver back in the late 80s.The new suit was ok for a Robocop on a bike. The film is sooooo bad that honestly the suit doesn't even mater. Better to just go a new direction then try to force the icon level 80s look and ruin it with changes.
>>215522947Oh. Right. What a dumb decision by them
>>215523984I bet the plan was for them to use the silver one, but then they saw that it was so inferior to the original, that they went with the black one to steer away from direct comparisons between the two silver suits.
>>215523481Soaring through the highway of the heavens in their fight~Robocop, a rainbow in the niiiiiiiiiiight~
>>215516274
>>215524443*detroid
>>215524487*detroit
>>215523877BITCHES LEAVE
Ghost in the Shell is the true Robocop sequel.
a reboot of robocop should have raised the stakes. he should've been a hero who saves the entire world or at least a very nice major city (that isn't new york, la or chicago or fictional shithole metropolis). he should've also had an incredible car, and also keep the partner aspect. today we hate on feminism, but forget that the original robocop had a female partner and she was brettygood. same goes for casino royale, the only decent bond movie, with eva green being with him for about 1/2 the movie, and she saves his life, but ppl still liked it overall.same goes for a reboot of tron. cockburn was actually good in tron legacy. why isn't she in moar movies (that require a square jaw)
>>2155056682021https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQGqHQTgeOQ
>>2155056682014 didnt have paul verhoeven
Interesting how all the bad shit with Cain in RoboCop 2 happens because of a woman that seduced the old man like a fucking succubus.
>>215505668I don't remember 2014 at all.I'm positive I must have watched it at some point.
I actually own a piece of the 2014 suit. I won the gauntlet at auction. Along with an upper torso and head of an EM-208. Robo 87 is my favorite movie so even if it's a remake I couldn't resist owning a piece of a Robo suit. I actually like the 2014 film. I like that they didn't do a carbon copy remake. Why do that when the 87 film is perfection? I like that Keaton as the main villain is just an ambitious corporate asshole. Had some cool ideas. Just wish it was Rated R
