why did He do it?https://youtu.be/CDcPFLCiqo4?si=_Gz9LKGevjl-SyJS
>>215505707Narcissist with a God complex
>>215505707schizophreniaalso he was brown
He thought God was two weeks away.
>>215505707>be a thief>lead life of sin>rape and steal all day, ruin many lives of innocent good people>get caught>in the final hour of your life admit "oh fug I was wrong">Son of God gives you a free pass into heavenGreat religion
>>215505707for cinema, also why did God strike Jim Caviezel with lightning TWICE during the production of this film?
>>215505707For you.
>>215505842>>215505861>>215506152>>215506234Enjoy burning in hell :)
>>215506269Casting too white an actor to play a canonically black character.Revelation 1:15>And his feet like unto fine brass, as if they burned in a furnace
>create mankind>make them imperfect on purpose>test them by ordering them not to eat from a tree, knowing they will>get angry anyway and curse them>thousands of years later change mind>conceive a convoluted plan in which He incarnates as a man and gets Himself killed so that He can lift the curse >instead of doing instantly away with it with His omnipotence >nothing changed anyway because His creation is still sinful and imperfect>promise to come back later at some point to finish the job
>>215506313>fine brass>black
>>215506278thanks :D
>>215505707>want to wipe sins of humanity>require a worthy sacrifice>no one is more worthy than you>sacrifice yourself to yourself>your welcome, humans
>>215506278Huh, gloating about someone's to-be suffering instead of praying for them, or feeling pity... doesn't seem very Christian to me!
>lives rent free in your head
>>215506362Why did he need a sacrifice? Isn’t he all powerful?
>>215506365Based god putting blasphemers in hell is literally righteous broEnjoy burning alive with child rapists, nazis, and Muslims for eternity kek
>>215506371God has extreme autism.
>>215506335That's not burnt brass which is what Revelation 1:15 is describing
>>215506362>resurrects >nullifying the sacrifice
>>215506371not quite. God has certain rules and limitations set by Himself which He does not compromise. One is that evil(sin) cannot exist without destruction. It can't simply be "forgiven". It has to be substituted with Holy Wrath. The only vessel that could bear the burden of God's full wrath for all human beings is God Himself.>this confuses and enrages the atheist Imagine it like this: your father is a judge and you get a speeding ticket. It is in your father's nature to sentence you which he will not compromise or simply forgive. So he sentences you, but knowing you cannot afford the fine he offers you money from his own pocket to pay for your crime.
>>215506484>God has certain rules and limitations set by Himself which He does not compromise.Why are you putting constraints on God?
>>215506484>imagineThat’s the difference: I live in the real world. I don’t have to imagine a judge, we have real judges with real educations that uphold real laws. Yours doesn’t exist, that’s why you have to imagine lol
>>215506234Wait till you start looking for logical sense in the other religions, you'll be even more disappointed
>>215506396>all knowing all powerful God who created the universe can't prevent human beings, his creations, from breaking his rules >happily sends them to an eternity of suffering because they talked shit about him on 4chanAn extremely gregarious and powerful deity. I've been converted.
>>215506527NTA but humans wouldn't have free will if God imposed his own will on them.
>>215506428>as if they burned in a furnace suggests they were glowing as if molten hot, which would coincide with the description of His face being as bright as the sun >and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.>His head and his hairs were white like wool, as white as snow; and his eyes were as a flame of fire;doesn't sound like very black to me
>earth is a testing ground for eternal salvation/damnation>God is omniscient and therefore must already know who goes to heaven and who goes to hellWhat is the point of all this lmao
>>215506484What if your father knew you were going to speed before you were even born and could've just made it so you didn't speed? Your father would be retard at that point, wouldn't he?
>>215506564What's the point of living life if you already know what the ending is?
>>215506564To rape as many children as possible and then convert on your deathbed at the last minute so you can spend your time in heaven obviously
>>215506497I didn't make the rules. God did.
>>215506581What's wrong with individualism?
>>215506581he gave you free will and you chose to speed
>>215506599>I didn't make the rules. God did.Are you sure it's not the other way around?
>>215506589low IQ take, you wouldn't be forgiven for such a thing
>>215506546>have child>come home one day to see it playing with razors and bleach>shrug my shoulders and let him have his fun because I don't want to take free will away from him and really he should know better At the very least, I'd hope God would cut in and directly tell people what they're doing wrong so they would know not to do bad things.
>>215506609>>215506616There is no free will when an all powerful, all knowing being created you. Anything you do is what he allowed you to do. He created you a certain way knowing with 100% certainty you would do certain things as a result. That is not free will.
>>215506630Erm, I don’t know how to tell you this anon… but you’re already forgiven. Jesus finished the work 2000 years ago on the cross.
>>215506641But a perpetual interference from God would rid you of your free will, don't you get it?Would society improve if everyone had microchips in their brain removing their free will and optimizing their capacity as human beings? Maybe. Would they have any trace of individualism? Not really. So the debate there is how much you value freedom of choice versus a higher power making all the choices for you.
>worlds highest IQ (276)>make videos about Christianity nonstop why does he do it?https://youtu.be/lA_uTAtluHM?si=O5WiD3-mtVF3N88P
>>215506673Of course there is. You can do whatever you want. The only limitations you have aren't on your will, but physical ones.
>>215506701Who knew someone so smart could be an idiot.
>>215506733you in the middle
>>215506700Giving up free will to save my mortal soul from an eternity of damnation is a good price to pay. Plus God is all knowing and all powerful so he could do it with a snap of his fingers. If his goal is to save everyone, he does a pretty terrible job of it. This isn't a government implanting microchips, this is the omnipotent, omnipresent creator of the universe who knows everything and can do anything
>>215506762I'm a Theist. I am not Abrahamic or Satanist. You literally worship a baby killer because "My God stronk," buddy.
>>215506721>You can do whatever you wantNo you can't. You can't do things God didn't want you to be able to do which is why he made you in a particular way. I think you're dismissing the implications of your creator knowing EVERYTHING before making you.
>>215506787
>>215506819Literally said not Abrahamic, that means not a Jew or Muslim either, you fucking dickhead.
>>215506765Whether or not you're worthy of being saved depends on your own choices/actions that are led by your free will. >Giving up free will to save my mortal soul from an eternity of damnation is a good price to payNo disagreements there. Only select people become worthy of salvation on their own, but you could add more people to the right track with the use of man-made tools like technology.
>I'm a Theist.
>>215506836Making fun of Noseberg? How new.
>>215506809>No you can'tYes you can. Physical limitations and free will are different things. You have full freedom of will, including to talk shit about your alleged creator.
>>215506830fagan detected. that's you on the left
>>215506859I'm not that kind of Pagan, dude. But okay, go off, weirdo.
>>215506871>paganNice larp. Tell us all about your pagan deity
>>215506787>I'm a Theist.What aspects of your religion of choice made logical sense for you to consider it as having merit?
>>215506871
>>215506891The Greater Than Infinite Mind. That's all you need to know.>>215506894It makes the most sense.
>>215506910I'm not gay either, bud. But go off.
>>215506855But he KNEW I would do it. And he created me knowing I would do it. He could've made me a different way which would've caused me to not do it. You're still not understanding the influence on design due to knowing what will happen. If my creator knows everything I will do he is effectively designing me to do certain things with 100% certainty. That is not free will. By your logic a robot has free will if its presented with more than option even if you know what it will choose due to its programming.
>>215506915Or.. you just larp as a believer in order to reap the benefits of being in a "religious" community while conveniently avoiding the stigma of being called an atheist, even though you likely think all religion is full of shit.
>>215506949There are no "religious" communities for the type of Paganism I believe in. I am Gnostic.
>>215506915>It makes the most sense.How so?
>>215506564Why did he create fallible beings in the first place that may or may not follow him (despite him knowing who will and who won’t)?
>>215506972It makes assertions about the reality we live in that are logical if you're not blinded by Atheist or Abrahamic goggles. For example, it says this realm is a Hell realm.
>>215506936Knowing you'll do something =/= making you do something.> By your logic a robot has free will if its presented with more than optionAbsolutely. It would have free will.> even if you know what it will choose due to its programming.Assuming I had omniscience, I would still have 0 control over its decisions, I would simply know what would happen ahead of time.
>>215506932
>>215507003>he thinks god gave robots free willOk gramps that’s enough 4channel for today
>>215507007Yeah, I'm sure my "God" isn't a baby killer, but I know yours is.
>>215506969But science debunks paganism.
So god created human beings with free will because he wanted to make sure they will love him and follow him by their own volition and not because they were drones created to do so.Is god an insecure 15 year old girl?
>>215507021Obviously not yet. I'm entertaining your hypothesis.
>>215507027Paganism doesn't mean Polytheism or Greek, Egyptian, etc "gods," bud. It originally meant "Not Abrahamic." Or people that don't believe in YHWH/Jesus/Allah.
>>215507003>I would still have 0 control over its decisionsBut you literally programmed, you dumb fuck. The control is in how you chose to program it because you know what it'll do. You are controlling its behavior by programming it a certain way. That's the whole point, you fucking retard. I should've known arguing with a christfag is a complete waste of time.
>>215507001Any more examples to flesh out this view?And how did you get into this?
>>215507035What's wrong with doing things on your own volition?
>>215507023
>>215507023Lmao wtf are you talking about? Do you believe in parallel gods? If not then yes, your god does regularly infect babies with parasites
>>215506484So God’s a sperg with OCD?
>>215507048But you believe in a God despite having no proof of such a thing existing.
>>215505707Hmmm what’s more likely>that this random jew that died in the middle of bumfuck nowhere was actually the son of the force behind the entire universe or>a cult leader fucked around and found out and all his followers grifted a bunch of illiterate plebeians
why did the painter hate pagans so much?
>>215507061Programming something to have free will =/= making choices for it.
>>215507068Uh, believes Idolatry to be more than just active worship, and a few other things.>>215507072Nope. But this is a Hell realm, so he doesn't always prevent it, sorry.>>215507088I've heard the voice of both Jesus and YHWH, and I've heard the voice of My 'deity'. I have personal experience with him.
>>215507120>I have personal experience with him.Oh, so you're a schizo
>>215507120Nigga thinks he’s in planescape, settle down their cavill
>>215507035You cannot love someone without free will.
>>215507134Do you think that debunks my experience? You're an idiot.>>215507136I'm only telling you my experiences.
>>215507101Rabbi Saul made good use of that cult to poison Roman society as a revenge for the sack of Jerusalem.
>>215507120>Uh, believes Idolatry to be more than just active worship, and a few other things.Few other things?
>>215507137Why does god need to feel loved by his creation?
>>215507174Why not?
>>215506234If someone realizes his mistakes, why should be still be punished?
>>215507137this 2bh. If God came to Earth as a pillar of fire and demanded everyone worship Him they would do so out of fear, not out of love and free will
>>215505707He was publicly executed for creating an apostate cult deviating from the main religion of the land. Christians would later do the same to other cult leaders, with similarly brutal torture and execution methods. Read up on what they did to the anabaptists in Münster
>>215507165Things like there are Fathers of Divine Races. There are also many Firstborns coinciding with the place they're from. There are Universe Creators given this ability by The True Creator. The way I got into it is just through Elite Insider Q&As.
>>215507101It's possible that it was a random guy but it's a pretty big achievement to come up with a religious system that has some practical use IRL
religious implications aside, atheists CANNOT refute that creationism is a FACT https://youtube.com/shorts/nARz673L7BQ?si=V-JsbBoeMp1upm3s
>>215507232Well he didn't come up with most of it, it was a slight offshoot from judaism, and alot of stuff was conceptualised and implemented long after his death. but he propably was a charismatic fella
>>215507201A third option exists. Remove free will in a way that doesn't directly interfere with your conscious perception of that, in order to optimize society. That could be the end game. The only question is, how would God react to such tampering. But maybe it's a part of the grand design, given that humans had the free will to devise such a thing in the first place.
I haven't 'sinned' so idk wtf he was going about
>>215507302It depends on who you ask. I would never give someone the title of "sinner" unless I have to include myself in it.
>>215506527>Free willThis bait again. If God is all powerful he can create a world where you still have free will but don't do bad. Oh wait he already did, supposedly. It's called heaven. Pretty odd he couldn't do that for earth. Unless of course, people in heaven don't have free will. Which if heaven is even remotely supposed to be believable then they wouldn't.
>>215507267Be as it may, I think it clicked with the part of the population that wasn't interested solely in greed, barbarism or other personality traits that Christian nomenclature describes as "sinful". So it became a strategy that could be implemented as a general lifestyle.
>>215507342>If God is all powerful he can create a world whereYawn, stopped reading this has been debunked
>>215507342>where you still have free will but don't do badThat's paradoxical as it wouldn't be free will. You would be confined to a place that sets more limitations on what is possible for your will to achieve.
>>215507302you were born, that's pretty much it
>>215507297Sounds like satanic trickery to me bro.
>>215507395What is Heaven then?
>>215506484>making up loreThe state of Christianity.
>>215507318then 'sin' is just some arbitrary shit you should not be living your life according to I know what is right and wrong in lifedon't need some shit written by kebab vermin a million years ago to tell me that
>>215507415They actually believe it's logical and true.
>>215507266I don't think the seething is born so much out of the religion being probable to exist. Obviously there's people here who believe in religion despite trying to "scientifically" deconstruct Christianity. The seethe stems from the fact that Christianity might paint their actions/desires as sinful compared to other religions which are more lax. So in a nutshell, people are angry that their desire to sin could put them in the uncomfortable situation to end up in Hell.
>>215506584But I don't know what the ending is. Unless you're implying death is the ending in which case you're saying there's no afterlife so I don't know why you'd even respond to a post talking about the afterlife.
>>215507415That's like 99% of christianity bro. No one during Jesus' time gave a shit about the logic behind the trinity, or the transubstantiation debate or whatever bullshit
>>215507302Be honest, pretty sure we all have done some sinning, lesser or big to some extent. If you lie about it that is a sin.
>>215507412I'm not sure I'm following your train of thought anon
>>215507395I don't know, and that's why the thought experiment fascinates me. Ideally it all happens naturally, but our very nature does not allow it, or at least it hasn't yet. Which is why I'm beginning to believe humanity might need Big Brother to optimize things after all.
>evil is a necessary consequence of god giving humans free will>doesn’t explain all the natural disasters, diseases, and freak accidents that cause suffering and death
will the sequel live up the first film?
>>215507484Is it not the removal of "free will" in a way as to not have you sin anymore or whatever he was trying to say?
>>215507487Read the book of Job
>>215507458And yet, it's one of the few religions, if any, whose implementation can lead to a tangible improvement of society and the way people live their lives. It takes existing behavioral concepts and reinforces them.
>>215507514It's called The Resurrection of The Christ now.
>>215507514>Jim CaviezelCaviezelbros...
>>215507525Every large religion accomplished that
>>215507538He's not playing Jesus anymore. It's a dude from The Last Kingdom.
>>215507458You mean to tell me all aspects of your chosen religion make immediate logistical sense? There isn't anything, I dunno, DIVINE about it?
>>215507516How so? It's your choice to sin or not to begin with, and seek forgiveness if you sin.
>>215507551Except it didn't. And that alone is why some people would rather be Christian than other religions. They're not all the same, and can have their pros and cons depending on your own worldview.
>>215507487>no you dont understand, your 5 year old NEEDS to develop leukemia because free will exists >something something mysterious ways
>>215507561>struck by lightning twice during the first filmI don't blame Jim 2bh
>>215507570Simply saying that if no sin exists in Heaven, how is it not possible on Earth?
>>215507551Not as successfully as Christianity, also christian morality and ethics are universal, unlike islam and judaism/talmudism.
>>215507461retarded metricand jesus needs to die on the cross for me not paying a parking fine? not really done much worse than that in my lifeam I exonerated for being a christfag?
>>215507615Shit, I never thought about it that way. Guess I'm pagan now. At long last, 5 year olds will no longer get leukemia.
This is what Christians actually believe
>>215507593>They're not all the same, and can have their pros and cons depending on your own worldview.I agree, I never said they didn't, but all large religions that endure for at least a couple hundred years bring tangible improvements to their society, even stuff that is long extinct by now like the ancient egyptian, greek or roman believe systems, or germanic paganism or whatever. And taking existing behaviroal concepts and reinforcing them is nothing special to christianity, it's basically how all religion or many other cultural systems work.
>>215507174Everything makes sense when you realize God is a woman
>>215507651Under paganism you'd have free reigns to make light of 5 year olds dying of leukemia and this is the core appeal of it versus Christianity. The primary reason as to why people seethe about Christianity is its morality system.
>>215507651Or you can grow up and acknowledge fairy tales aren't real
>>215507690God is nonbinary
>>215507192Because the deed is already done
>>215507661reminde that the White race and White Europe would've never existed modern day without Christianity and the crusades. Would've been conquered and browned by pisslam a thousand years ago.
>>215506278Chriscucks coping again.
>>215507705That would be too naive of me when I have yet to see a logical explanation for the existence of reality itself.
>>215507698>The primary reason as to why people seethe about Christianity is its morality system.Yes because they want to be debased animalistic degenerate hedonists without restraint.
>>215507724There would still be white europeans, they would just be muslim
>>215507732I mean.. yes. They do. What I don't see in that kind of lifestyle is the long term gain, and historically, it doesn't seem very optimal. But it's a part of free will.
>>215507724>browned by pisslam
>>215507374You dont have to go full on atheist either. Why is it always extremes with you people?
>>215507724Erm sweetie…
>>215507661That would be pretty based actually. The core reason as to why certain races are disliked is based on their behavior, which can be corrected through Christianity. The skin color and physical features is just a biproduct of climate.
>>215507628that's just like, from your christian perspective man. people from other religions would beg to differ
>>215507618He wanted to come back. He talked about it for years. But they refused him because he's too old now.
>>215507786Meant for >>215507731
>>215507724True
>>215507786Never said I am. There's a thing called agnosticism which rests on the foundation that I know nothing for a fact. It is the only logical stance to take when God can neither be proven nor disproven.
>>215507789kek
>>215507795Yeah but teaching children to get along with each other has proven to be more efficient than teaching them to be suicide bombers, or, on the pagan end sacrificing X number of people to appease the War God in the event that a battle is lost.
>>215507756>it doesn't seem very optimalVery charitable take
>>215507789Left is just an invention of woke modernity and industrialisation though. Retvrn to tradition.
>>215507789Uhm sweetie, there would be no Christianity in Africa without White people. Your pic makes no sense.
>>215507880Getting along with each other is a core part of most religions, and christianity failed at that spectacularly many times, same as other religions
>>215507887I'm being as fair as I can to people who don't want to subscribe to stereotypical concepts of morality. Their ways of life still don't seem very optimal, and thus, I can't view them as superior.
>>215507795It is objectively true, prove me wrong if you can.
>>215507789
>>215507925>Getting along with each other is a core part of most religionsIn practice, is it really? Apart from it being successfully implemented by Christianity and maybe Buddhism to an extent, I can't think of too many examples. And like you said, even under Christianity it didn't always work. That's part and parcel of having free will, you're absolutely free to choose whether you'll be good or evil.
>>215507933>other religions are badder and my is gooderthere isn't really an argument to prove or disprove anything
>>215507930It's inferior, it's like a tree without roots. Without a proper concept of right and wrong, good and evil you become lost in moral relativism which is a cancer.
>>215507791Midwits don't get how religion can be an answer to the race question even though they trip over themselves to praise any shitskin that happens to share their political views. Religion is just ideology on a mass scale and automatically solves the same issues in a wider range.
>>215507968>Christian society in reality
>>215508002I agree with that despite having made many attempts to divorce myself from my morality for the purpose of the thought experiment. The reason why religion and in particular Christianity has any following is because of its real world applications. This is why it's popular. If your religion exclusively told you that you should kill yourself at the first conscious moment, it would obviously have no following.
>>215506278>>215506396christians aren't allowed in heaven sweetie, only gods chosen people are
>>215508027Because if Christianity teaches you anything, it is to wage war and have gay sex, like Caligula, is that right?
>>215507993Of course there is, Christianity being universal makes it objectively superior.
>>215507724>reminde that the White race and White Europe would've never existed modern day without Christianity>Would've been conquered and browned by pisslam a thousand years ago.rome would have easily destroyed islam, just like it destroyed judaism the problem is sand religions like christianity causes white people to have suicidal empathythe roman man was immune to such things
>>215508172>rome would have easily destroyed islam, just like it destroyed judaismrome was corrupted by jews long before the birth of Christ. Which is why the jews were able to convince the Romans to crucify Him. you are retarded
>>215508172If we are to assume paganism promotes greed, personal possession, carnal pleasures and power above all else, isn't that a pretty jewish thing in its own right?How was Nero any different from the most stereotypical jew caricature imaginable?
>>215507791>>215508011high IQ takerace is a component but ideology is always number 1
>>215508041Religion in many ways is a cheat code on how to live a good life, at least Christianity is.
>>215508068Sounds about right
>>215508011I am a Christian Ethnonationalist just as God intended when he separated races by their nature and language, before the synagogue of satan(jews) started mixing everyone together against the will of God to create chaos on earth.
>>215508172Irrelevant, Rome was destroyed.
>>215508253Except it doesn't, otherwise it wouldn't be met with resistance by the people who indulge in the same things. I could call myself a Muslim and follow a Scientologists' way of life. Would that really make me a Muslim?
>>215505707For you
>>215507791>The core reason as to why certain races are disliked is based on their behavior, which can be corrected through Christianity. The skin color and physical features is just a biproduct of climate.You leave out genetics. IQ, behavior and genetics go hand in hand.
>>215508263That's fair. What I'm suggesting is that in the context of an inevitable multicultural reality like the one of today, you're better off teaching a member of the other race beliefs that would result in their improvement rather than degradation. To put it simply, I don't see how it would be optimal to teach an already unruly people how to be even more unruly.
>>215508263Same here.
>>215507371Your mom isn't an omnipotent, omniscient being, you drunk retard. My post is an age old concept yet it stumps you christfags every time. >>215507374I know it wouldn't be free will, which is why I brought up heaven. Heaven somehow exists as a concept where no one does evil and doesn't want to, yet every time I tell someone that you're basically incapable of free will in heaven and are a lobotomized version of yourself, they scoff at it. If god can do that in heaven he could do it on earth. But he doesn't for reasons.
>>215508306No, IQ is a bonus. A car can be driven just as well by a retard and a smart person. Similarly, both could be taught how to act in society.Some of the biggest human cancers that have walked the Earth have had a very high IQ, which only served to aid their devious plans.
>>215508341No one is stumped you’ve been refuted already, I’m just mocking you and your terrible rhetoric, enjoy hell btw
>>215508107not that anon but christianity isn't universal, the entire foundation of the enlightenment era proved that christianity had deep seated rot in iteven jesus' own fan club had a crash out at Antioch because paul and peter fundamentally disagreed with each other about the bullshit they made up about jesus going forwardare you jewish+?are you in a new covenant?is baptism a choice?are jews still gods chosen people and you still the gentile?you can't answer any of this honestly because every smarter man than you over the last 2000 years will disagree with some aspect of your interpretation of itchristianity is as universal as scientology, it's a religion whose beliefs are more based off of fantasy books like dante's divine comedy and paradise lost than the source testament you claim to representyour beliefs are by and large apostate to the actual word of christ, yet you cloak yourself under his protection and delude yourself into salvation your universality is a lie
>>215508341>Heaven somehow exists as a concept where no one does evil and doesn't want tMaybe you just find it hard to believe that there are people who have no ill intent?
>>215507791>which can be corrected through Christianityhow are you going to use christianity to correct the behavior of a subsaharan nigger that has no concept of the future? the present nigger doing the sins and the future nigger burning in hell are, in the nigger's mind, two entirely different niggers
>>215508202>rome was corrupted by jews long before the birth of Christ. Which is why the jews were able to convince the Romans to crucify Him. rome treated the jews as a a conquered people, and then killed them when they got uppityyou know nothing of history
>>215507716So you expect everyone to be perfect
>>215508402You teach them right from wrong, preferably at an early age so it sticks.
>>215508268>Irrelevant, Rome was destroyed.by the weakness of the christian cult rotting the empireconstantine damned europe to become weak for a millennium afterwards
>>215506278Hope he sees this bro...oh yeah that's right he's not going to because why tf would he be on 4chan? Lmao no brownie points for you faggot. We'll also see you in hell :)
>>215508430>Christianity was so weak that the most powerful nations on Earth were, and are still ruled by Christianswew
>>215508410>You stand accused to raping, murdering, dismembering, and eating a 5 year old>Your Honor, I'm deeply sorry>oh well, in that case you're free to go, nobody is perfect
>>215508212the most stereotypical jewish caricature imaginable is a gentile golem formed from the soil beneath zion thinking his abandonment of his ancestors will redeem him at the gates of the god
>>215508421>You teach them right from wrongon what basis? i already explained why the christian one doesn't work on them.
>>215508473>You stand accused to raping, murdering, dismembering, and eating a 5 year oldWhat's wrong with teaching people from an early age to not do those things by reinforcing a Christian belief?
>>215508446>Christianity was so weak that the most powerful nations on Earth were, and are still ruled by Christianschristianity didn't rule anything, it just turns everyone into cuckolds and servants to the jewish godyou celebrate your own slavery even in death while your ancestors celebrated freedom even in life
>>215508483Nah, I'd say Nero is still closer to a jewish caricature. And certainly no ancestor of mine.
Nobody posted ithttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N_Zukayqjo
>>215508510The issue is that having a basic morality system = cuckoldry to people like you.
>>215508518you worship the king of the jews and you would cling to him for desperate salvationthere's nothing more jewish than that
>>215508212>paganism promotes greed, personal possession, carnal pleasures and power above all elsewhat paganism "promotes" is simply life, the life in the here and now, as opposed to the suicidal adoption of weakness in life for a promised reward outside of life>isn't that a pretty jewish thing in its own right?it's not "jewish" to live a good life on earth lmao
>>215508485I already explained it.
>>215508446Lol only the retarded plebs are expected to follow Christ's example. The rulers of Christian nations are effectively Satanists, in that they are extreme egoists.
>>215508532incorrect, jesus did not invent morality, he invented feminism and communismyou worship at the feet of the king of the jews because you are incapable of being a good man in your own right
>>215508559>it's not "jewish" to live a good life on earthSo a jewish Roman emperor would be a good thing?
>>215508406the crucifixion of Jesus Christ at the behest of an outraged jewish mob, incited by the jewish elite (Pharisees) under Pontius Pilate during the reign of Caesar Tiberius is a historical FACT. Regardless of religious beliefs
>>215508545>>215508576>le king of the jewsHe's everyone's king, that's the point. It's the most popular religion because it resonates with people who have good intent and just want to lead good lives.
>>215505707To end the reign of Yahweh/Satan over this realm.
>>215508568he's an american, he knows very little about history outside sabaton videos and crusader larpery
>>215508563where? what is the explanation? how will people who can't conceptualize the future be convinced by the christian argument?
>>215508576But feminists are typically atheist and communism was more critical towards Christianity than any other religion. You seem both historically illiterate and out of touch with modernity.
>>215508579good for whom?
>>215508591I'm afraid you are as he was - MISTAKEN.
>>215508608By teaching them what the future is from an early age, I already explained it.
>>215508591no, jesus was born a jew and him and his followers declared him king of the jewsyou were not born a jew, he is not your king, yet you are subservient to him because you are a gentile, a slave to jewsunlike you, most people do not consider themselves a slave to the king of the jews so that you might desperate cling to jewish heaven and beg forgiveness to a jewish god for being born through original sin(of being born gentile)
>>215508630For the people he rules over. The pagan's greedy way of life seems no different than that of the jew.
>>215508591> He's everyone's kingNice headcanon, here is what rabbi yeshua actually said> But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
>>215508664Of course not. He's king of everyone.
>>215508591>just want to lead good lives.what the fuck are you talking about lol? the basic tenet of christianity is that your life is supposed to be bad so that you can collect rewards after death. blessed be the poor, blessed be the meek, remember? christianity doesn't resonate with good people, it resonates with weak an unhappy people by telling them they have heaven to look forward to. it's a slave religion, and it's popular because the world is mostly slaves.
>>215507731Why do you crave an explanation so badly that you'll adopt a retarded religion? What happened to just not knowing and being okay with that? Something's we'll never know the answers to, and that includes the creation of our universe.
>>215508617>But feminists are typically atheist and communism was more critical towards Christianity than any other religionincorrecthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman%27s_Christian_Temperance_Unionsuffragettes created 1st wave feminism out of man hate, weaponizing the christian bible and the words of the king of the jews against their fellow menyou know very little of actual history
>>215508698Where does it state in Christianity that the rich and the strong cannot be blessed?
>>215508695jesus is your king because you are a slave to all jews who were the chosen people of godthis is fundamental to the belief of apostle peter
>>215508646they do not understand "the future" on a brain structure level lmao. they evolved in a climate without harsh winters so they can't even reason about next year, let alone "when i die and my soul is judged." they literally don't have the brains to process long-term consequences. you cannot teach a dog about heaven.
>>215508710>incorrect>proceeds to link an irrelevant american organization that jumped on a bandwagon that was growing in popularityIf you're fixated on feminism in particular, and aren't historically illiterate, you would know Paganism is a lot more feminist than Christianity is, for good or worse.
>>215508738>jews>God's "chosen" people >destroys them by the thousands in Old Testament >condemns 99% of them to hell in the New Testament how did boomers fall for this whole God's chosen trick?
>>215508669he will be as good to them as he has to be so they don't overthrow him, same as any other ruler.
>>215508738How can I be a slave if I make my decisions willingly?
>>215508365You haven't refuted anything so therefore you're clearly stumped. >>215508386No, I don't find that hard to believe since "ill intent" is intentionally vague. Are you one of the only Christians that has the hubris to say they have no desire to sin in their heart? No belief in the "we're all born sinners" concept I hear at churches all the time? I'd love to know how you reconcile with the fact that as broken people and people born of sin, we somehow lose that humanly desire once we get to heaven with free will somehow intact. A paradise where all your dreams and wanting come true but every seems to align with saintly hearts.
>>215508796Again, your issue seems to be that you can't even consider the possibility that some people simply aren't interested in being evil.
>>215508769>If you're fixated on feminism in particularjesus was fixated on feminism in particular, which is why mary magdelegne held a prominent position at his table>you would know Paganism is a lot more feminist than Christianity ispaganist witches and wiccans being feminist does not excuse the blatant anti-male feminism bleeding through the new testament, which was the basis for the suffragette movement to demand rights for women and rights taken away from men
>>215508721lmao. "sooner will a camel pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man will enter the kingdom of heaven." read your own scripture you retard.
>>215508821Basic rights for women is one thing (and there is nothing wrong with it) but to pretend like the Christian household isn't patriarchal would have both religious people and feminists disagree with you.May as well start arguing how Christianity is actually the root of homosexuality among humans.
Seek Christ, libtards.https://youtu.be/GUVQHD6j9S0
>>215508815You're not an actual Christian then if you've never heard of the concept of being broken and being born a sinner. Reminder that looking at a woman that isn't your partner with the desire of lust in your heart is a sin. So is not honoring your parents. You moved the goalpost to "evil" because you're too dense to follow a simple argument. So I guess I accept your concession.
>>215508823Why did you leave out the context that this was told to a rich man who vehemently refused to leave his greed behind?
>>215508868>its just a quirky coincidence that historically Christian nations happen to be extremely tolerant of homosexuality
>>215508897I accept your concession as well, it being that you can't conceptualize not all people actively have a desire to be pieces of shit, because this is really what it boils down to.
>>215508357You are wrong. Learn more about IQ.
>>215508917>its just a quirky coincidence that nations became more tolerant of homosexuality with the rise of atheism, which is also the predominant belief system of said homosexuals
>>215508794>How can I be a slave if I make my decisions willingly?you did not make the decision to be born gentile, this was forced on you the moment your ancestry was not present on zion when they made their covenant with the jewish godfrom that moment you were inferior to all jews which were chosen by godjesus, by claiming divine right as king of the jews, determined that you too, are under his wide kingdom under the rainbow as a gentile, the unchosen by god meant to exist in subserviencehave you never wondered why jews never come to your door to convert you? but christians do?christianity is a slave religion under judasism, you can only be christian, that is your slavery, this decision was taken away from you
>>215508377If you backtrack my posts I mean universal as in ethics and morality, maybe I should have mention it again.
>>215508936No I'm not. An almost brainless person can still be taught discipline. The fact that current systems and tutors have failed to do so is not my doing or choice.
>>215508868>May as well start arguing how Christianity is actually the root of homosexuality among humans.interesting how you bring that up
>>215508907because that context doesn't contradict my point in any way. think, nigga, think.
>>215508576Educate yourself fool.
>>215508974>universal as in ethics and moralitymartin luther vs the council of trent
>>215508967You clearly have no knowledge of Christianity since this is not what it states at all. That it itself is a huge cope since you're just adding your own donutsteel OC to it.
>>215508963China is explicitly atheist and is by far less homo than the west
>>215508989I can post all the outliers in the world too, it doesn't change reality.
>>215509014you see, i am educatedchristianity is an inherently feminist, anti-male religion that was weaponized by feminists to punish menthen it was used to promote homosexuality, because christianity is an inherently anti-natalist religion as wellwhy are so many christians heterophobic?the rot inside every church is self-evident, for every westboro baptist church, there are 100 churches promoting homosexual marriage
>>215508982How can you teach discipline to someone so low IQ they have next to zero impulse control, empathy and only live in the now? You simply cannot, you sound like a midwit.
>>215509035But wasn't Christianity communism? Why would communists ban it from their countries? You people are beginning to contradict yourself. So much so, I almost forgot all the evidence pointing towards the fact that there are more atheist and pagan homosexuals than there are explicitly Christian ones.
>>215509022unfortunately for you, you are uninformed and have to invoke the pharisees defense against a more learned theologianleave religious discussions to men who are capable of arguing them kiddo
>>215509083Easily.
>>215508357>A car can be driven just as well by a retard and a smart person.what an incredibly retarded statement. driving cars well requires remembering rules and accurately modeling at least the short-term future, ie tasks dependent on iq.
>>215509070Maybe you should not strawman with woke Christianity which is literally marxist satanism, not Christianity.
>>215506365>Huh, gloating about someone's to-be suffering instead of praying for them, or feeling pity... doesn't seem very Christian to me!◄ Revelation 6:10 ►9And when the Lamb opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony they had upheld. 10And they cried out in a loud voice, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You avenge our blood and judge those who dwell upon the earth?” 11Then each of them was given a white robe and told to rest a little while longer, until the full number of their fellow servants, their brothers, were killed, just as they had been killed
>>215509070unfortunately for you, you are uninformed and have to invoke the semitic neopaganism defense against a more learned theologianleave religious discussions to men who are capable of arguing them kiddo
>>215509019Do you mind explaining what your point is?
>>215509053muslims also believe in jesus, homosexuality and feminism has always been present in jesus' sermonsthe lasting impression of christianity on this earth is the rejection of the masculine
>>215509120Literal kids have been shown able to drive cars. Hell, monkeys have been shown to be able to drive rudimentary automobiles. Shut the fuck up.
>>215509122>marxist satanismsir, that IS christianity
>>215509168Never go full retard.
>>215509140oof, you've lost the argument so hard you're having to copy paste a better man's words?how aptly christcuck of you
>>215509149Leviticus 18:22 states, "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination". It seems to me like you want it to be pro-gay than it being such. And considering you clearly hate women to the degree where you'd rather be homosexual, I can see where you're coming from. Please embrace the true masculine traditions fellow neckbeard.
>>215509194>satan was the deceiver>jesus was a deceiver>jesus also promoted marxismthe gay shoe fits
>>215509201I'm pasting a hypocrite's words in order for them to see what they look like in practice.
>>215509112And how would you do that?
>>215509162>monkeys have been shown to be able to drive rudimentary automobilesoh, so the lower iq creature does in fact perform the task only in a simplified, more rudimentary way, as opposed to doing it>just as wellas you previously insisted? you don't understand your own idiot statements. yes, a kid could drive a car, but NOT AS WELL as an adult, which is why we don't give them licenses you tard
>>215509235But isn't Satanism anti-Christian and thus based?
>>215509230you see, Leviticus is a jewish book, not a christian oneyou follow the gay king of the jews, he was very much down the rainbow
>>215509272it's all jewish, toss it out
>>215509261Incredibly retarded people have been shown to not only operate automobiles but excel at it. Teaching someone the concept that there is a future and not just a present is primitively simple in comparison.>>215509254By teaching them something that goes against their tradition/belief system.
>>215509275>Genesis 2:24 - Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.Yeah, seems pretty gay to me.
>>215509297>everything is jewishDamn, talk about being a jewish slave.
>>215509312That won't work and you are still a midwit for thinking so.
>>215509084Cuz theyre smart and they recognize it results in suicidal levels of empathy
>>215509250cringe feminists flocking to cringe neopaganist religions does not excuse the cringe feminist beliefs inherent in the new testamentmodern feminism wouldn't exist without christianity, greece and persia experimented with it thousands of years ago and then eventually dropped itonly the christian cuckold is so weak to feminist subversion, his holy book is rife with feminist apologia
>>215509297Is the jew in the room with you right now?
I'm surprised none of the pagans ITT have come forth with the theory that Mary was raped by the Roman Pantera and that's how Jesus came to be. (the origin of this story is the work of a jew btw)
>>215509350yes, you are jewish, you get tossed out too tosser
>>215509312>Incredibly retarded people have been shown to not only operate automobiles but excel at it.some, and some will literally never understand the relationship between the gas pedal and speeding up etc, because they are that retarded. it's dependent on which parts of the brain are impaired and in what way.>Teaching someone the concept that there is a future and not just a present is primitively simple in comparison.and yet europeans have been endlessly trying to teach things that require an understanding of the future to african niggers and failing every time. they don't have those brain structures. it will never happen. a dog will never plan for next year, and neither will those niggers. you are just arrogant and dumb so you imagine you would succeed in something much, much smarter people than you have failed at despite enormous effort. niggers will never understand the future.
>>215509083You think "Live the now" means debauchery, chicanery and degeneracy...Funny how your own Christianity teaches to live the now, hence by saying do not worry about what you will have to eat, etc. You're slow.
>>215509381Challenge a pagan to shit talk a jew and they'll excel at it. Challenge them to not act comically jewish and they'll combust in flames.
>>215509380are you christian? then yes, definitely
movies where there is absolutely no way to win at all and everything is doomed forever?
>>215509402I'm not jewish, but if I was one, you would be naturally subservient to me, since according to you, every concept is jewish.
>>215509381Literally doesn't matter who conceived Jesus, makes no difference to him touting the Jewish God as his father and thus being wrong about being The Son of The Creator.
>>215509381unlike christians we don't base the majority of our beliefs on fanfiction
>>215509433>atheists seethe and froth at the mouth that not everyone will embrace their two dimensional doompilled state of mindI get it now.
>>215509444if you worship the king of the jews you are certainly subservient to jews, correct
>janny usually dumps this thread onto /b/ within 50 posts >allows it to remain on /tv/ today why did he do it?
>>215509461So you're an atheist?
>>215509472idk bro... it's not looking good...
>>215509456It does matter when pagans repeatedly use jewish talking points to shut down Christianity.
>>215509508Maybe because you vehemently protest at the things that are good, or the possibility of improvement? Things not being good is the status quo, and thus more comfortable. But you can't experience growth without trials and tribulations.
>>215509517Idolatry isn't just a Jewish concept. Though they come from the same tree, the real concept of it is foreign to Judaism.
>>215509409Hello, it appear you did not understand my post. Try again.
>>215509495no, i'll leave you to keep guessing because it's important to you to know who is disagreeing with you and it's funnier that way because it doesn't matter to me that you have the same beliefs, i will just call you out when you force yours on others
>>215509485I don't worship humans period.
>>215505707Same reason why so many other great men through history have named the Jew.
>>215509550No, I understood your post just fine. You're the one trying to act like you meant something else.
>>215509570Apparently not, you are just retarded.
>>215509541>Maybe because you vehemently protest at the things that are good, or the possibility of improvement? yes, surely this gay jewish religion that eroded all male rights and created feminism is good
>>215509599What else could you have possibly meant? Go ahead, lie.
>>215509558I'm not interested in forcing anything, and you're clearly too miserable to follow the same beliefs that I do. I'm just calling out your hypocrisy once again.
>>215509562yes yes, you worship the spiritual king of the jews! the son of the jewish god!how could we forget
>>215509541to pervert means "to turn somebody down the wrong path"
>>215509609>yes, surely this gay jewish religion that eroded all male rights and created feminism is goodIt's not. Christianity however can be. And that's why the most successful nations got to where they did thanks to its teachings. In contrast, the more eroded its teachings became, the worse off society, and in particularly the West became.Of course, you're not interested in arguing against those core issues that helped erode it, you're interested in attacking one of the few remaining belief systems that challenge those core issues.
>>215509619>I'm not interested in forcing anythingthread derailed here >>215506278once again, christians larping as jews, crying out as they strike youyou will never be jewish little bro, your god did not choose you
>>215509641You said it yourself, spirituality is above any human.
>>215509669That anon is being bad faith, but you are correct.
>>215509683You realize there's more than 1 person ITT right? I could care less whether you're Christian, burn in Hell or prosper. We're arguing for and against religion, that's all.
>>215509722>>215509722>>215509722NEW
>>215509611Explain to me what my post meant then?
>>215509669>It's not. Christianity however can be. And that's why the most successful nations got to where they did thanks to its teachingsthere have been over 20 christian nations that have completely died and gone extinct, more nations have gone extinct under christianity than any other nationbeing the cuckolds and losers of history has been a staple of christianity
>>215509754Literally just posted. You can say that's not what you implied, but we both know it's a lie. You didn't even know the Bible taught that, did you?
>>215509771>being the cuckolds and losers of history has been a staple of christianityThen I don't even want to think about the other guys.
>>215509782No I do not understand your initial post, it's badly written and ESL, can you rewrite it to get your point across more clearly?
>>215509409^ You don't understand this post?>>215509829You might just be Autistic.
>>215509725That's the funniest thing about it all. All of these people pretending they're all for being based but knowing full well that Christianity dying would simply mean even less opposition of the real IRL issues humanity is plagued with nowadays.
>>215509872Indeed.
>>215509857No I do not see how it's related to my argument of low IQ and discipline, you even wrote "live in the now" wrong.
>>215509994Literally makes no difference if I phrased it exactly. Some say I have a low IQ simply because I'm Schizophrenic and I learned to try to repent on my own without Christianity. I'm also saying that Living in the now isn't what the fuck you think it is. We've already established that by you avoiding lying and trying to blame it on my grammar, you fucking dickhead.
>>215510070I have no idea what you're talking about, but take care regarding your schizophrenia and I wish you all the best.
