>The Thing wants to assimilate and conquer the entire human race >So it crash lands in the one place on earth where barely any humans exist away from any convenient transportation
>>215514709Keyword is crash. Dingus.
>>215514709You understand the concept of a crash precludes choosing your crash site's location, right?
The Thing was just trying to survive. I don't think you can assume what its ultimate goals were
>>215514745Headcanon. What are the chances of accidentally crashing on a planet that also happens to have life on it, which the thing alien is designed to be able to assimilate with?
>>215514709>The Thing wants to assimilate and conquer the entire human raceAssumption.Also if you theoryshit The Thing you are a faggot, I'm sorry.
>>215514709>>215514853The ship was not the Things. It was infected and purposefully crashed on an uninhabited planet millions of years ago to contain the hazardous organism. That's in the movie.
>>215514997>crashed on an uninhabited planet millions of years ago>they chose the only inhabited object out of 8 planets, 15 dwarf planets and two seperate asteroid belts and the FUCKING SUN
>>215515044Who died and you made the royal expert of interplanetary freight? I say they wanted to crash on Glorpazoon IV but the voidstorms knocked them out of the faze, ending up with crashing on Earth, which was at the time only populated with non-intelligent life which ethically they consider fine to dump the Thing on.
So there's definitely infected planets out there full of Things. Are they just meat blobs or do they maintain the host shape for whatever reason?
>>215514709antartica is pretty bigalso if the thing landed anywhere else at the time when it did there wouldn't be movie, humans would never even have existed by the time it assimilated all ife on the planet
>>215514709What happened was there was an alien biological expedition that picked up the Thing, it broke out, and while the expedition was above Earth they crashed it into Antarctica purposefully to try to contain the Thing.>>215514745is correct however. The Thing has no grand ambitions of world conquest. It's just an animal that is now loose on a world it doesn't belong in. Sometimes I think about what the Thing's native habitat might have been and if it had predators. It certainly wasn't just a planet made up entirely of Thing clones.
>>215515169I like to imagine the Thing takes over the entire ecosystem and then mimes being a functioning biosphere. Pretends to hunt itself, pretends to grow old and die, so eventually maybe some ayylmaos will land to check the place out. Then it converges on them, like a flytrap closing its jaws.>It built a flying saucerA more boring idea is that it would just leave whenever it felt like it. Go wherever a Thing goes, does whatever a Thing does. Maybe it's just looking for a nice beach.
>>215515288In the book, the Blair-thing was somehow building a spaceship the whole time
>>215515336ET, catch cab home.
>>215515336Isn’t that also in the movie?
>>215515174The 2011 prequel also depicts the alien as some kind of bug parasite which was actually the original idea they thought of for Carpenter's version. So most likely this is correct and the alien was a parasite that attacked the crew on the ship and they decided to freeze it in ice. Why they didn't just crash in the sun, who knows.
>>215514853that's headcanon. its goals are never stated.
>>215515044It chose the planet with water.
>>215515381he builds some shitty ufo yes
>>215514709didn't it crash way before mankind existed
>>215515044planets are really far apart
>>215514709If only there was some sort of part of your sentence that alluded to why it wasn't a choice spot.
>>215515606it could have just been a hover craft, it didnt' need to be a UFO even though that's what everyone assumes it was
>>215515738>The Thing jetskiing to South Africa
>>215514709>The ship was a prison ship. >The Thing was a prisoner. >The Thing wasn't piloting the ship.>OP tries fucking wall outlets for fun.
why didnt the thing disguise itself as food, everyone eats it and boom they become things.
>>215515172Antarctica needs to get the fuck out of my Country.
>>215515858because it imitates life, it could have done that if there was food that was alive, but there wasn't any at either base
>>215515898maybe your shithole country needs to get out of antartica, of course invading is your pasttime
>>215515738>couldOk, ufo then retard
>>215515934Wasn’t the thing a carrot monster in the 50s version
>>215515044Ok but what if it was a space Indian who got his space CDL from space liberals?
>>215515871Ravenous.
>>215514709The problem with the movie is that when you really think about it, the thing isn't really that smart. It constantly outs itself and makes stupid mistakes, never mind the questionable origins of the alien itself and why the space ship would be in a continent void of life >Decides to absorb all the dogs in the middle of the night when their barking wakes everyone up, alerting them of its existence for no reason>Doesn't pretend to die as Norris, instead splits his head off and becomes a spider thing>Palmer, who is also a thing at this point, alerts them all of the spider thing when it could have crawled away>Blair-thing gets anticlimactically blown up because for some reason it absorbs 3 different people instead of splitting them off into separate parts >Ending is left ambiguous as to whether the thing is alive anymore, when really it should have been able to assimilate all the characters if it was smart
>>215514709the thing was not the pilot of the ufo, just a hitchhiker that probably caused it to crash in the first place when it attacked and killed the crew.
>>215517974The Thing isn't smart, it's an animal that imitates its prey.
>>215514709isn't it heavily implied or suggested by one of the characters that the thing wasn't piloting the ship, some other race was and the thing killed it which caused the crash?
>>215517974that's like a plot point. the thing is so dumb it failed the blood test because it didn't want to sacrifice any cells
>>215515871Let the right one in
I always thought the spaceship wasn't The Thing's but some third party that got infected, didn't contain it and crashed as a result.
>>215518066It’s supposed to be smart.
I think we've all been baited by OP.
>>215517974>NorrisThe norris-thing gets hurt when they use the defibrillator on it and it mutates to defend itself, then it splits the head off to try and escape because the rest of the body is getting burnt to death by the flamethrower.>PalmerThe Thing isn't a hive mind, every separate part of it is out to survive. The Palmer-thing probably figures the head isn't going to survive anyway so he may as well make himself look less suspicious.>>215518129MacCready theorizes before the blood tests that each part of the Thing is alive, hence when he removes the blood from Parker it reacts to try and protect itself independent from Parker.
>>215519207Is it stated in the movie it’s not a hive mind?
What took me out of it was was there was NO WOMAN and there was no subtle homolust, I mean come on it happens in prison movies
>>215519085It is proven numerous times throughout the film that it isn't.
>>215514709Why didn’t they all just kill themselves at the same time?
>>215517974>>215519085It's an alien monster that is using human intelligence as an instinctive tool. It's ALIEN. This is what makes it scary.
>>215514709You assume many things>The Thing was flying the craft at all>The Thing chose to "crash" there and it wasn't out of its control>The Thing "wants" to conquer the planet and it isn't simply acting on natural instinct
>>215514853>>215515044Skill issueIn the 80s it happened all the times
>>215516352More like a turnip. Nobody likes those
>>215514853>>215514853>What are the chances of accidentally crashing on a planet that also happens to have lifewell I don't know. do you want to have a movie plot taking place or not? do you want a movie about alien where something happens or do you want to stare at a screen for two hours where the alien crashed and died on an inhospitable planet 90 minuets ago? you smug dunning kruger mouth breather don't realize movies are made because the creator had an idea about something interesting happening?
>>215517974The monster is just some parasitic virus that spreads by imitation. I interpreted the ship as not even belonging to the Thing but to some other alien species that the Thing infected or attacked.
>>215519577Why/how would it be a hivemind?
>>215514709Perhaps it had an innate sense of fair play and giving it's targets a fighting chance?
>>215515044Maybe the Thing was able to divert it to earth somehow
>>215514853>What are the chances of accidentally crashing on a planet that also happens to have life on it, which the thing alien is designed to be able to assimilate with?100% because the movie wouldn't have happened if it didn't
>>215514853you're doing it wrong, retard
>>215518066>>215518129>>215519695Ok if the thing is just a dumb alien driven by instinct then how could it build the flying saucer thing?
What if the Thing farted and sprayed a bunch of shit particles everywhere and each shit particle became it's own organism and grew to become a huge shit monster and the world was just taken over by giant shit monsters that infected you by ramming themselves down your throat and forcing you to swallow a monster sized shit and then mutate into your own version of a shit monster but you were still conscious enough to feel pain and smell everything and contemplate the horror of your situation despite being trapped in the body of a shit monster running on pure survival impulse and it tried to stay al9ve as pong as possible while you are jusy in constant agony and suffering the whole time its alive which could be millions of years or more lol
>>215521782Some innate memory from a previous creature it infected
>>215519577it's like the opposite of a hive mind. literally every cell only cares about itself
>>215521782we have no idea if that shit would work.>muh bookit's a different creature in the book vs the film and there's no indication the saucer would work. he probably just built the outershell to look like what diabetes guy thought it should look like
>>215514853If it bothers you that much, The Thing has technology on it's spaceships or at it's home to seek out more life, but the ship had a problem or hit a meteorite or whatever the fuck and crashed on EarthThere
>>215515517So glad they didn't go with this facehugger ripoff. The Thing being some sort of molecular parasite/virus is much more interesting.
>>215521808Only in your dreams, pajeet.
>>215514709McReady was the Thing at the end of the movie.
>>215515858Because the crew put 2 and 2 together and immediatelly realized it was better not to eat food prepared by others and in fact not eat anything that wasnt in cans, which The Thing can't replicateSo turning into food would just be wasting its biomass
>>215514709>So it crash landsyou might be a retard
>>215517974The Thing's intellect isn't a constant, its dependant on its mimicry of the host and biomass. Like the blood pool being pure instinct like a bug because its small and pretending to be unthinking tissue.The dog-thing had little biomass and was pretending to be a dog, it wasnt able to plan much ahead which is why it did what it did.
>>21551587130 days of night
>>215515044The Thing and the last surviving alien were having an anime fight on the bridge as it was crashing to Earth. At the last second the ayy karate kicked the joystick to send the ship to Antarctica before saying "I live for this shit" and diving out the back.
>>215515871The Thing 2011
>>215514709I like to imagine that the entire cast are imitations by the time we get to the kennel scene, but have no way of knowing or acting on it since they are mostly *perfect* imitations. The ones who get caught being imitations and crash the fuck out are just shitty at what they do, and Blair is the only one to figure out what's happening and consciously tries to escape the base once he's isolated.
>the thing is weak to fire>crash lands in the one place with no fireSeems pretty smart to me
>>215522772stupid fucking swedish couldnt leave well enough alone
>>215522782They're Norwegians, anon
>>215514709>>The Thing wants to assimilate and conquer the entire human raceits purpose is unknown. Maybe it just wants to party rock on earth, and to do that it needs to get off the frozen shithole of the world.
>>215522782they were trying to kill the dog it was the fucking american retards who stopped them
>>215517459Turns out liberal democracy was the cosmic horror all along.
>>215521874maybe the thing is what caused the crash
>>215514709Bold of you to assume the crew of that vessel was composed of The Thing, and not merely victims of it, the reduced cognitive ability causing them to be unable to pilot the ship and crashing on earth.
I hate the part when The Thing lectures the crew about how white people are worse than it. Colonialism was not worse than assimilation.
>>215522802>>215522814hey sweden, shut up
>>215514709the aliens which controlled the ship are the ones who crashed as they were being assimilated by the thing
>>215522782>>215522802>>215522814Firstly: It's not a dog, it's some kind of Thing. It imitates a dog, but it's not real. Secondly, if it had been me seeing those dumbfuck yanks embracing the dog I would have said: "KOM DERE VEKK, IDIOTER!" and then probably died.
>>215514709Maybe it adopted a top-down approach in its conquest and just went with the assumption that the most important humans would exist the farthest from the latitude that hosts the largest concentration of niggers
>>215523016lmao how very norwegian of you, yes we all know it wasn't really a dog you dumbfuck
>>215514709>crashanon... you know the definition of the word, right?
>>215522814>shoot the thing dog >the thing blood and gore sprays everywhere and on everyonegoddamn swedes can't do anything right.
>>215523371maybe don't go near the dog?
>>215523371the only thing swedish people can do is make meatball and smoking hot tall blondes
>>215515174The Things home planet is called The Place.
>>215523371The norwegians were also using grenades and had gas to cook it
>>215522725Kek
>>215514728You must understand we are regressing as an intelligent species, so causality like that is becoming hard to understand
>>215522725If I were a billionaire you would have 100M on your hands right now to film that prequel
>>215514709post time you acted like Das Ding>Be me da Ding>texting my buddy while driving my spaceship>"I'm gonna crash lol".
Thoughts on The Thing sequel?
>>215523917i poopensharted my cuckstoel when the thing
>>215515172still smaller than Texas
>>215523588As a Norwegian I can say that they were probably just going to eat it. Pretty sure those guys were just hangry.
>>215515174>It's just an animal that is now loose on a world it doesn't belong in.WrongPainfully wrong.It's a supremacist species, it probably believes itself to be the apex of the universe.Even if world conquest isn't on its mind.The hate it feels being taken down a notch is surely felt. Its species might only truly die once in a millennia.
>>215524039Meanwhile on the Thing planet, a crane the size of an elephant picks up and eats a Thing, immune to its infection by secreting over itself.
>>215522925Woke remake with Zendaya as The Thing when?
>bound to arrive in New York>crashes 1,200 miles away from it with no means to transport the passengers to its destination
>>215524417The jews did this
>>215514745>>215514853>>215514853ridley scot should make a new prequel which shows the alien world where the alien came from, and then show how its ship became infected with the thing.in fact, he could make two films about it, and show the thing in it for about 15 seconds.maybe a million years ago mankind went on a space ship to an alien world, and they took a genetically modified bio weapon with them, and then they accidentally shot it at the alien planet, and infected all of them. and you see the bio weapon taking over all the aliens one by one for two films. then finally one hero alien climbs onto his ship even though he knows someone in the crew is already infected as a thing, and he flies back to the planet where it came from, humanity's planet - rhe planet EARTH! and at the end you see him deliberately crashing there just before the thing eats him and the ice slowly dripping water into the top of the ship and freezing over as the credits go. and then you see the norway norweigians arriving in a truck in the distance ready to set up their base!!!
>>215515044pluto's a planet you fucking spastic
>>215524552then we'd finally find out about the alien spaceship in the thing, which is the real mystery that everyone has wanted completely solved and unexplained since the film came out
>>215524579no, it's not
>>215524645it really is.they tries to say it isn't for political reasons. grow up and stop listening to news companies, they just want to make money
>>215524645Pluto has always had feathers. Cope.
>>215524808fact
>>215515044Anon, it's a movie.
>>215517974damnthat means The Thing didnt build the space shipit assimilated aliens and could only fly the ship well in space, but when it has to land it fucks up
>>215523917the light novel really went into detial on ding's life
>>215524552when is this out?
>>215522881If they had interstellar travel, they'd know a biohazard when they see one.The Thing is trying to repair the ship whenever it gets the chance. It's more likely the owner of the ship than some space flu.
>>215525168>they'd know a biohazard when they see one.That's an assumption, The Thing can mimic biological beings perfectly.
>>215514709>crash landstry to google what it means, retard.
>>215522765Explain the blood scene.
>>215514709>The Thing wants to assimilate and conquereverythingAnd the ship crashed, it was an accident
>>215515174Its painfully obvious that "The Thing" has been plagueing the galaxy for millenia. It screams with the souls of every creature it has consumed. It knows how to spacecraft with primitive scraps. It purposely hijacked the ship to earth and the ships crew managed to steer it to antartica as a suicidal last resort. How you failed to pick up the multi layered roar means you got filtered and are possibly brown.
>>215514709The thing didn't assimilate every single creature it meets meaning it wasn't its will at all.Also>Crash landedit didn't pick anything.
>>215514728No it doesn't.
>>215522765>just shittyokay explain the blood test then
>>215522765nice idea, but the reality is actually much much more intriguing.it's actually all just a group hallucination due to extended isolation in a harsh environment. they even mention it near the beginning of the film.the real 'monster' is group hysteria. it passes from the norwegians to them, not by a 'space monster', but by them seeing the panicked norwegians and their own panicked reactions - shooting them.it was their first contact in months, and a violent one.it was a clever metaphor by john carpenter to show that the real monster is already inside everyone.
>>215525913It was the first goddamn week of winter.
>>215523974i like it, it's easy so play on very hard. i didn't play the original because everybody said the infection system was forced bullshit but the remaster is fine
You better post the word doc this christmas, or at least update the tierlist
>>215514709We don't know what happened in that ship, the thing could've been a stowaway to the aliens that actually drove there to study earth or whatever before eating them.We don't know if the thing is actually capable of intelligent throughts like "I WANNA ASSIMILATE ALL OF MANKIND NYAHAHAHAH!" or if it's basically just a mindless creepy-crawly.
>>215515898No it doesn't, Antarctica is infinitely superior to the jewnited states of americoons. lol
>>215524552Sorry, but this is clichéd and terrible
Guys! Norway might be fighting US!
>>215525818Why would it scream with the sound of all the creatures it assimilated? Screaming isn't a voicebox to your soul, it's the vibrations caused by an organ that make oxygen go wibble wobble. Good headcanon but still just headcanon, lose your arrogance.
>>215514709I haven't seen The Thing, but Antarctica is my favourite continent by far and I want to watch films without any women in them and I've heard this film has no women in it. Is The Thing worth watching?
>>215526090Yes, but just the orginal, not the prequel
>>215526047>Why would it scream with the sound of all the creatures it assimilated?Because it did in the movie and Carpenter said so, put down the jew bible and believe what your eyes see
>>215526090>without any womenYou might see your reflection on the screen and you sound like a massive bitch.
>>215515169>So there's definitely infected planets out there full of ThingsHow do you know that? Why are people always so quick to make assumptions? >Definitely this>Definitely thatAnd it's usually the basis for some predictable and inane argument
>>215514709Do you understand what crashing implies?
>>215515044>I can believe in an interstellar alien space ship but the idea it has someway of detecting the biomes of planets is just too far fetched man
>>215514853>designed
>>215525868Norris is a bigger mistery imo, but this is fun to talk about.Palmer was a spaced out druggy so his imitation was constantly fucked up, and thinking that was just how he was supposed to be all the time since that's what it imitated. Really he's the shittiest imitation when you watch him.Best thing about this movie is that the monster is almost completely nebulous, and what we do get is mostly conjecture and intuition by the characters.
>>215526122>and Carpenter said sothe part about getting filtered loses a lot of meaning
>>215514709No reason to suggest the thing is the owner/creator of the ship. It could just be "Alien" found on some planet by alien researchers and then the thing could have caused havoc on the ship, which caused the crash.
>>215526121The original is the 1951 version. The famous version is the 1982 remake. Watch the 1982 remake.
>>215528287>The Thing>The Blob>The FlyAny other 80s remakes better than the originals?
>>215514728Oh yeah?
>>215528287movie yes but the 82 movie is very, very directly based on the 38 book
>>215521782Exactly. It's not true that the thing is just trying to survive and is capable of making stupid mistakes. From the very beginning it's shown to be a hostile entity that actively wants to absorb other organisms, even dogs. By the end it's shown to be intelligent enough to be capable of building a small UFO out of earthly resources. So clearly it is very intelligent, the mistakes it makes in the movie is more a result of weak writing.
>>215527258>Norris is a bigger mistery imo,It's funny how the Norris-thing shows that The Thing's ability to copy those it assimilates is so perfect to the point of being potentially detrimental to it where even a weak heart that gets a heart attack is copied and mimicked.
>>215515174
>>215528549Watch the movie closely and notice that the thing wants to absorb as many organisms as possible as a means of singular consolidation. First it becomes a giant disgusting dog blob before that is killed, then it starts from scratch with Palmer and Norris. Norris-thing inherits his heart disease and is unfortunately incapacitated so it splits its head off to survive, but then Palmer-thing decides the head monster isn't even worth it so it alerts everyone else to kill it. Blair-thing then absorbs 2 other people and becomes another behemoth creature like at the start of the movie, so clearly it WANTS to reach this kind of state and have a metamorphoses where ideally it's 1 organism composed of countless others. It even flexes this desire by bringing back the dog-thing at the end. Blair's computer simulation backs this up. The thing CAN split itself into different parts, but it has a preference for absorbing other organisms into 1, and the different parts are all a connected hive considering even after the dog-thing dies it retains its DNA from Blair-thing.
>>215528584They didn't have the balls to show the thing's true form in the movie
>>215525934but the rest makes sense, you have to agree, visavi
>>215517974The Thing's assimilations are dependent on the host. If it assimilates into a dog, it can only really act like a dog. If it assimilates into Norris, it inherits his heart disease. If it assimilates into Blair, the head scientist, it's now capable of building a spaceship. The degrees of intelligence vary. The dog-thing does stupid stuff because it's a dumb dog. The Blair-thing fucked up the most by getting itself instantly blown up but sadly this is probably just because the filmmakers ran out of money and had to wrap up the movie.
>>215517974I think the thing was like the demons in the anime frieren. They dont actually understand humans or think like humans, they are predators who started acting like humans to trick them.
>>215514709What are the chances the Thing's ship wasn't even it's. And it was actually from some other Alien civilization that IT fucked over, leading to the crash?That's my canon at least...
>>215529784100%. You don't just fly through interstellar space and accidentally crash onto a planet. It was deliberate and due to biohazard escaoing containment
>>215529862The story is from 1938. Nobody back then understood interstellar travel the way you're describing it. They would have most certainly thought of it as analogous to bigger, fancier boats a la the age of sail, and occasionally you do get shipwrecked.
>>215514728But I did eat breakfast today.
>>215517974It isn't complicated what the thing actually "wants." It starts out as a dog. It ends up as a human capable of building a UFO from scrap metal. If it reverts to lesser organisms like a spider-head, it's willing to sacrifice it in preference of being human. Blair explicitly says in the movie "it wants to be human." There's no mystery here. It's the tagline of the movie that it's "the ultimate in alien terror." It's not trying to conquer the earth and turn everyone into things, it's trying to become the ultimate species by absorbing other ones. By the time it absorbs Blair and the original alien pilot, it has the knowledge to create a UFO from scratch. That's a pretty fucking substantial upgrade. It's reasonable to conclude that the thing just wants to return to space conquering other species because it has no further use for humans.
>>215530127>E.T. phone home
>>215530152>Both movies came out the same week and have essentially the same plot told in polar opposite ways
>>215528287I just watched the 1951 version out of curiosity and it's hardly the same story at all. The thing doesn't even have its shapeshifting ability. 1982 version is a lot better.
>>215524552Ridley, is that you?
>>215514728how the fuck do you crash into one of the poles? explain that mister scientist.
>>215530600The 50s version doesn't follow anything from the book other than that it's in a snowy place. The 80s one is a straightforward adaptation
>>215530708Your space ship approaches the Earth from North or South?
>>215530807He was actually coming in from the planetary plane, but Earth was underoing a geomagnetic reversal at that time. Is probably what messed up his instruments, causing the crash in the first place. He meant to land in Paris.
>>215530708unironically magnetism
The dog actor was amazing. Incredible to this day how perfect it is in all its scenes.
>>215532024I always noticed this, it was fucking great
>>215514709This thread inspired me to read early reviews of the movie that were all uniformly negative and they all complain about "continuity errors." What errors are there though?
>>215514709Out of all movies to analyze, you choose the Thing, a typical horror flick where characters suffer from retardation due to the genre of the movie they're in
>>215514709Why was he so mean :(
>>215532297Ah bloo bloo
>>215532474Imagine waking up naked in a third world country. You are just going to try and get the fuck out no matter what.
>>215514709greenland has a massive crashed ufo>source?no
>>215514709>crash lands>100k years before the events of the movie happen>accidentally gets found>planDo you fags even watch movies or just glance through wikipedia articles
>>215532474They killed her boyfriend Clark. Her one true love in all the galaxy
>>215514709>away from any convenient transportationOne could argue that it's quite convenient to have access to a variety of machines designed to travel through snow and ice in a land covered by snow and ice. It's also convenient to have access to airborne transport that can simply fly over the snow and ice.Inconvenient transportation would be a jet-ski. It would only be of practical use on the coast, and even at that, the water would be extremely cold, so you would probably die using it. Death, as you might imagine, is quite inconvenient.
>>215514709I like to think that the aliens in the spaceship deliberately chose the South Pole as a last desperate attempt.
>>215526034it's the plot of prometheus, so it must be good
>>215532297>recognize, assess and create strategies against the horror threat down to eating only canned food and the blood tests>"characters suffer from retardation"If anything it's one of the few horror films I know of where the characters are actually rather smart
>>215530661it's the film I always wanted to make
>>215529784Agreed. And they could have gone down in Africa were the hairy apes lived which would have been bad.Ofcourse the evolved apes decided to dig up Antarctica anyways.
>>215514709isn't that the saucer section of enterprise?
I think one of the cool thing about The Thing is the idea that there could be tons of these guys all over and we wouldn't even know.
>>215533549Maybe they even run the US government
>>215533404The movie even had a glorified "I'll destroy everything around me because I'm going mad" character just to make it easy for the antagonist to win. There's not one horror movie in existence that is down to earth in any way that matters. Not that the Thing is a bad movie, but horror movies are a shit genre because of how convenient everything has to be for them to work.