Dexter was never good. Woman's show

>dexter joining an elite serial killer club by pretending to be some low level guy, and then killing most of them and reveals himself to the midget murder epstein counterpart and then killing the midget leader
it was pure kino

>>215516087
What’s good?

>>215516118
I really like how the previous show ended with Dexter finally getting caught then this new show starts with them not only backtracking on all of it but literally having the police apologizing to and hugging Dexter for not suing them.

>>215516087
Shut up, cunt.

>>215516246
Me too. That show sucked and it was cool they basically handwaved away all the bullshit from it

What's the most batshit storyline they could do for season two? The only thing I can think of is Dex finding out the president is a serial killer and we get a table kill in the Oval office but that might be too political.

>>215517011
cultists obsessed with the bay harbor butcher bring doakes back to life

>>215516246
It kinda makes sense. Dexter had been arrested with literally no evidence to suggest he was the Bay Harbor Butcher or involved in Kurt's son's murder. He was arrested on an anonymous letter sent to the police containing pins from Kurt's son's legs and one of the same pins was subsequently found in Dexter's house which was burned down and evidence later showed that Kurt, who was revealed to be a heinous and prolific serial killer, was the one that burned down Dexter's house so all likelihood points to Kurt planting the evidence to try and cover up his murder of his own son.
Even a barely competent lawyer would get that case thrown out in court. In fact it wouldn't make it there because no prosecutor would even attempt to take that to trial. The big issue for Dexter is that he killed Logan while imprisoned, which is dumb because he should've known they had absolutely nothing to implicate him and Kurt was dead so no longer a threat to Harrison so there was no need to escape, but as there was a bullet fired into the cell a self defence narrative is plausible enough. That's without getting into the issue that Dexter's arrest was wrongful on the grounds of the evidence found so it's plausible that the cops would just want to wash their hands of the whole thing. Angela can't pursue it as there's no evidence to convict Dexter and she may be thankful that Dexter put a stop to Kurt, even if she cannot prove Dexter was involved. Her wanting to move on, forget the whole thing and never see Dexter again makes sense.

>>215516067
Since its not good, more like season 5 of Dexter?

>>215516118
>>215516246
>Dexter gets saved from the dilemma of innocents from somebody else shooting/killing the cop on his tail in previous seasons
>Resurrection does the same thing
Those writers couldn't write an ending if they wanted to

>>215518450
He killed an innocent in New Blood. It was a nonsensical move but he did it.

>>215518485
But it's never anyone meaningful and he doesn't seem to care about it despite muh code

>>215518512
>he doesn't seem to care about it despite muh code
Wasn't that what Harrison and he concluded at the moment of self-reflection, that he really just likes killing and the code gives him an excuse?

>>215516067
Breaking Bad 2 doesn't exist

>>215518528
But that isn't a new realization since it's touched on in the early seasons, it's just hammed in more on as the show goes on that Harry is always right.
Narratively if he isn't following a moral code, he isn't any better than any other killer, gets innocent people killed or framed too and the writers have no idea how to make him interesting besides have him kill people which alone doesn't make the season good or satisfying.
So it's hilarious for anyone to call it breaking bad 2 if it were good when they at least knew where to stop

>>215518600
Because he's conscious that he likes to kill doesn't mean he can ignore the other facets of his personality. Whether Dexter wants to acknowledge it or not he has a sense of justice and is capable of caring for others. The show has always been about balancing his need to kill and the things he learns he cares about. That balance doesn't change just because he becomes more cognisant or accepting of his lust for killing, especially since he is continually finding new things which he cares about which will always be jeopardised by his desire to kill.

>>215518660
I mean he has less things to care about now than in even the starting seasons to be frank, up to season 4 it was his family, then further it was Debra, his cop life etc
Now it's only Harrison
>The show has always been about balancing his need to kill and the things he learns he cares about.
If it was, then he was pretty bad at it considering all the things he cared about that he lost. Harrison had to track him down and appear out of nowhere for him to have something to care about

>>215518450
I didn't mind it in Resurrection because it wasn't really framed as "Will this be the end of Dexter?" like with Doakes or Laguerta's arc where they get really close to catching him, Angel was constantly fucking up his investigation and going nowhere. Rather it was more about the deterioration of Angel and Dexter's relationship.

I don't believe Dexter was ever going to kill Angel when he was offered up to him strapped on his brother's table by supervillain Peter Dinklage but he did get unexpectedly caught up in Dex's way of life and ended up paying the price for it. In that regard, Angel's death sort of reminded me Rita's. The main difference is that Dex is actually present for once when someone innocent close to him dies but instead of forgiving him, Angel literally rejects his absolution.

>>215518716
>If it was, then he was pretty bad at it considering all the things he cared about that he lost
The irony is he always loses those things when he tries to resist his urge to kill.
>Doesn't kill Trinity when he first meets him or let him fall his to death when he tries to commit suicide
>Leads to losing Rita and to a lesser extent Astor and Cody
>Doesn't kill Brain Surgeon when he has him dead to rights opting to let him get arrested
>Leads to losing Deb, Hannah and to a lesser extent Harrison
>Harrison had to track him down and appear out of nowhere for him to have something to care about
He didn't stop caring. He just thinks Harrison will be better off without him because the people he gets close to get killed. It's why he's isolated himself from the world. He can't ignore that he cares for Harrison which is why he brings him back into his life but he still loses things. He was momentarily happy thinking he had a family again only for his new girlfriend to turn around and try and arrest him.
Now he has Harrison, which will be his number one priority, Blessing and his family, and he will almost certainly pick up some more things to care about in his new life.

>>215516067
comparing this show to breaking bad is genuinely insulting, it has like one proper good season, everything beyond that is just a complete mess of badly written plot armor and deus ex machina

Does a person need to know Dexter is a killer for him to be haunted by them?
It's surprising with all the visitors from his past he's had in his subconscious Rita has never been there. Can he not bare the thought of Rita knowing he's a killer which she'd have to if she became a passenger in his subconscious?

>>215518831
Breaking Bad is even more shlockly than Dexter and filled with just as much plot armour and deus ex machina shit. Breaking Bad is a decent show that is completely elevated by its central performance. I like it but it is so grossly overrated.

>>215518811
>The irony is he always loses those things when he tries to resist his urge to kill.
You are reversing cause and effect
His urge to kill is why half those things happen actually along with the incompetence of Miami Metro force, he wasn't that way with Trinity because of some reluctance to kill him, he actually saw Trinity as someone successfully balancing killing and a family life and thought he could learn that from him.
I doubt Rita would even be as much of a priority target without Dexter inserting himself into Trinity's life. The Brain Surgeon and the ice truck killer also saw Debra as Dexter's weakness hence targeting him.
In New Blood he is living a completely stable life without any killing. You really think Batista, Doakes, Laguerta would have died the way they did without Dexter?

>>215518860
fuck off, it's not nearly as egregious, that's what the "badly written" stand for, everyone understand suspension of disbelief, whoever wrote for Dexter doesn't (or care)

>>215518860
Breaking Bad isn't as dragged out or milked out, when it did have a spinoff people thought it even better than the original show.

>>215518944
That's a fair point. Those threats to things he loves are brought into his life by his need to kill, which is a threat to those things in the first place, but that also in itself becomes a fascinating dynamic on how much you can actually be a killer and still balance things you care about. He may have brought those threats into the life of his loved ones but had he just neutralised them when he could the threat would be diminished.
>he wasn't that way with Trinity because of some reluctance to kill him, he actually saw Trinity as someone successfully balancing killing and a family life and thought he could learn that from him.
Yeah, that's his initial motivation, he wants to learn more about how to balance the killing and family, which he does, but he also has the chance to kill him when Trinity tries to kill himself but he saves him because he wants Trinity on his table. By not killing him then and there, as his subconscious had been screaming at him to do, he ended up making a move that would ensure Trinity could not only kill again but that he could kill someone Dexter loved.
>In New Blood he is living a completely stable life without any killing. You really think Batista, Doakes, Laguerta would have died the way they did without Dexter?
No I never suggested that. Simply that when Dexter doesn't go all the way it leads to loved ones dying, hence why he just wants to keep Harrison out of his life. Trying to maintain that balance will forever be a struggle.

>>215519015
>fuck off, it's not nearly as egregious
Yeah it is.

>>215519024
>Breaking Bad isn't as dragged out or milked out,
It had a movie and series spin off but that wasn't even the initial argument so why bring that up?

Dexter is incredibly rewatchable, its like fast food but as it goes on its like reheated fast food and doesnt taste as good

>>215519047
No.

>>215517044
Kino

>>215519076
Your show really isn't that good. Dexter isn't a high point of the medium but neither is Breaking Bad. I don't know how people put it on the same pedestal as a show like the Sopranos.

>>215517011
Probably gonna have an epstein analog but the catholic church will be behind it

>>215519064
We are talking about the franchises
>It had a movie and series spin off
yeah and the other had 3 spinoffs, including a cancelled one.
It's also part of the argument since Dexter now survives death just so he can be milked more, affecting the writing of the show.

>>215519110
>Dexter now survives death just so he can be milked more, affecting the writing of the show.
Not really. The quality of the show hasn't been diminished, it just went more outlandish which hasn't been to its detriment. It doesn't pretend it's some kind of prestige series or anything.

>>215519093
whether or not it's on the same pedestal as the sopranos is irrelevant but it's at least somewhere up there, Dexter isn't even on the fucking map, there are levels to this shit

>>215519139
If your character can survive being shot and a bullet hitting the chest, there are no real stakes
>>215519036
>He may have brought those threats into the life of his loved ones but had he just neutralised them when he could the threat would be diminished.
>He may have brought those threats into the life of his loved ones but had he just neutralised them when he could the threat would be diminished.
Not really practical even within the show, aside from the trinity example Dexter usually tries to get killers as quick as he can since it's his main priority.

>>215519165
Breaking Bad is barely a level above Dexter. It's often a genuinely silly show with some absolutely awful writing. So is Dexter but no one pretends Dexter is high entertainment. I don't know why Breaking Bad gets a pass in that regard. If it's a level above Dexter it's not an especially high one.

>>215519196
>If your character can survive being shot and a bullet hitting the chest, there are no real stakes
Dexter is always going to survive. The stakes in the show are him losing innocent people close to him or being discovered for what he is by someone that cares.

>>215519210
the fact you think their respective level of writing is similar tell us all we need to know really

>>215519227
>I am the one who knocks
Keep pretending your soap opera is high art. I can enjoy both but they're dumb fun at best.

>>215519225
> The stakes in the show are him losing innocent people close to him or being discovered for what he is by someone that cares.
But what's the point of that when at every turn the people who do know either quickly end up dying themselves or are completely complicit along with him

>>215519257
>dying themselves
Well, there's stakes then, isn't there?
>or are completely complicit along with him
Changes the dynamic completely when that happens.

>>215519243
>bring up a quote
>it's supposed to prove the show is bad apparently
lmao ok retard, nobody even said anything high art but obviously you're a media twat so you gotta act like one I get it

>>215519297
I'll keep enjoying both when I want to. You can keep seething. Stay mad, loser.

>>215519281
>Well, there's stakes then, isn't there?
Not if it's happened the 7th or 8th time
>Changes the dynamic completely when that happens.
No it just leaves him free or with the dying thing have other people suffer the consequences for his actions while he has guilt at best

>>215519315
no one said you couldn't, retard

>>215519333
>Not if it's happened the 7th or 8th time
You can still grow to be invested in different characters and not want to see them die.
>No it just leaves him free or with the dying thing have other people suffer the consequences for his actions while he has guilt at best
You seem to be splitting hairs. There's still something at stake when those characters can be destroyed or conflicted by their complicity.

>>215519360
Then fuck off, you stupid cunt.

>>215519361
>You can still grow to be invested in different characters and not want to see them die.
All the original characters we knew in like 8 seasons are dead, ghosts or minor cameos, none of the new characters have the audience that invested in them. Harrison is practically as invincible as his dad is.
>You seem to be splitting hairs. There's still something at stake when those characters can be destroyed or conflicted by their complicity.
There's no characters left to do that, fucking Angela gives him a free pass and has sailed off into the sunset. Harrison is a total dullard. Tyrion took care of the Batista question.

>>215519368
I don't think I will, retard

>>215519399
You really can't think of any scenarios or directions for the series to go to from here?

>>215519410
Fine, stay here and being an annoying cunt.

Next season is gonna come out 2027

>>215519420
I could think of multiple actually, now if you asked me if i trusted the writers to do something actually interesting besides the killing or to write any kind of satisfying conclusion for Dexter that'd be entirely different.
We know from seasons 5-8 that killing alone doesn't keep Dexter interesting.

>>215519431
Thanks retard-kun

>>215518485
the kid deserved it

>>215519481
I was talking about Logan.

>>215516087
>Dexter was somewhat good sometimes and bad, Man's show to laugh out loud at LaGuerta moments of being top cop of the show which you would hope she would be shot dead.


Oh wait.

>>215519439
Isn't Shogun 2027 too? Is everything skipping 2026?

>>215519507
what the fuck is shogun

>>215519520
a tv show.

>>215519495
ah yes forgot that guy KEK

>>215519439
>>215519507
Resurrection S2 is going to film from April to September, which presumably means it will premiere around October 2026 to tie into the series' 20th anniversary.

S1 filmed from January to June, then premiered just a month later in July. The post-production is pretty fast compared to most modern series, presumably because there's barely any VFX and the show is fairly cheap (apparently Paramount+'s new mandate is that all of their shows cost less than $10 million per episode).

>>215520344
>(apparently Paramount+'s new mandate is that all of their shows cost less than $10 million per episode).
Insane they had to even mandate that. Why are tv series costing $100+ million a season now?

>>215516067
Dexter original run 2006

They have to bring the morning routine intro

>>215518849
Probably, that means Angel will likely come back at some point as one of his ghosts

>>215522394
Almost certainly. I also think like Deb the subconscious version will be a lot nastier than the actual one ever was.

>>215518831
Dexter was always more of an edgy pulp capeshit show than prestige TV, even all the way back to the first season. There were always asspulls and shlock elements. Barry is more comparable to Breaking Bad than Dexter is.

Does he have a lab

I have never met anyone that enjoys this show that isn't mentally ill. No, seriously. And not the cool, oh I'm gonna be a professional killer, mentally ill or that you have the quick chungua going on. Just blatant mental illness that should have been treated with incarceration in a padded room.
Also the show sucks, actor sucks, premise sucks. You have poor taste on top of it all