Why doesn’t Gunn understand Superman?
Him being a good guy in spite of his parents wishes is exactly understanding the character, retard
>>215524646israel rules
>>215524678You realize its just a suggestion, right?He can ignore them and work as a mechanic. Or blow up the planet. Freedom, anyone?
Pa Kent is Clark’s real father and the person who molded his values. Jor-El doesn’t matter or match him in importance
>>215524678Hey supergoyschizo, had a rough last week huh?
There are countless iterations of Superman in comics where details of his origin are changed, Jor-El being different is a big deal. Besides, Clark has always seen Jonathan as his real father. He sees himself as human not a kryptonian
>>215524762I only know that in the Flashpoint comics, Jor-El is a conqueror like ZOD and Omniman.
>>215524734This. So don’t hesitate to date single mothers. You’ll be the REAL dad of her mixed children.
>>215524678Gr8 b8 m8.
>>215524762Excuses - the post.
Jor-El isn't Superman
>>215524646lol at snyderfags trying to claim continuity with donnerkino
>>215524646He wasn't raised raised by Kryptonians. He shouldn't have to care about Jor-el's ideals. He was raised by Jonathan and Martha Kent. They are who helped yo make him what he is.
>>215524646You should watched the Donner cut of Superman 2, where Jor-el looks down on his son for wanting to give up his powers.
>>215524646>Jonathan Kent dies in 78>Jonathan Kent dies in 13>Jonathan Kent is alive in 25Why does only Gunn understand Superman?See I can do it too OP
>>215524646>Gunn's early life
>>215524734This...and that is why Snyder Kents are the biggest mistake of that shitshow>>215524822The fuck are you smoking retard?
It's just a subversive 'fuck you, dad' writing mechanism that is not rooted in the lore of Superman.
>>215525012Post crisis is hated by most Superman fanboys, so Gunn took it wrong.
>>215524646Why don't you understand how to use a toilet?
>>215525067Crisis was literally 40 years ago, anything pre-crisis is irrelevant.
>>215525122Tell that to all the biggest and hardcore Superman fanboys that hold it to this day that Superman was better before the 86 reboot when the Kents were dead and he was a bachelor. Or the many, many comic book writers that the so called Superman fans glaze the fuck off that agree with that sentiment and constantly tried to reboot things back to the way it was, like Grant Morrison, who finally got his wish of murdering the Kents when the 2011 reboot happened.
>>215525052Don’t play dumb. You know exactly what the fuck I mean.
>>215524646probably to fit the parallel with current Batman and how both their dads are corrupt
>>215524646Gunn has daddy issues and his works reflect that, simple as
>>215525155Double dubs to the Better Man... Interesting.
>>215524762>There are countless iterations of Superman in comics where details of his origin are changedBullshit.There is one Superman.
>>215525608That's not double dubs.
>>215524646From the nature of Gunn's work he very likely had issues with his father
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>>215524646Gunn is a retarded pedophile manchild with daddy issues
>>215524646>we're great jewish immigrants, lets make america great too>we're failed european immigrants, lets make america great instead>we're bad med/middle eastern immigrants, lets make america bad too
>>215525154Those are the same fags who want Barry Allen because he was "muh Flash" when they were kids. Post-Crisis has a lot more fans than pre. The issue is Pre-Crisis babies are in charge at DC.
>>215524646is that Marlo Brando?
>>215527159So annoying. Every Flash adaption is fucking Barry Allen acting like Wally West
>>215524794must be a shitty conqueror if he didnt even have a backup planet or even one proper space ship to escape kryptons destruction
>>215524646>Superman starts to separate from his adopted parents to embrace is Jewish/Kryptonian heritage. Finds out his Jewish parents want him to use his super Jew powers to spread the Jewish/Kryptonian way. Rejects them for his adopted parents and their old fashion midwest American values
>>215524646Changing an established character is good actually
>>215524646i think gunn just wanted to make a krypto movie.
>>215527595Jor-El was never established character and his personality and motives changed all the time. Donner and Brando made him some God like figure and injected Jesus stuff into the story when it was never there. And unfortunately Singer and Snyder took it to entirely ridiculous level
>>215524678>Him being a good guy in spite of his parents wishesWoke revisionism. Glad they're cancelling the series (again).
>>215527682You’re a retard
>>215527748Every Woke movie has to have the "brave new generation" fixing the sins of the previous. It's because these cunts want the youngsters to destroy their parents accomplishments and embrace change i.e. "Cultural Marxism". Don't think we haven't caught on and please fuck off.
>>215527881Did you even watch the movie? Superman does embrace his parents, the ones that raised him! Old fashion midwestern values
>>215524822Except the Kent couple adopted Clark, he's not a single-mother household kid.
>>215524690the jews aren't even trying to hide it anymore
>>215527911I like how Superman needs to ask his ridiculously over the top caricature of retarded hick parents if he really needs to rape and enslave people.
The worst part about pretending to be human is i have no room to strech my thorax.The flesh is uncomfortable.Smells awful.Has a stinger on the front.Humans are all wrong.
>>215528517I like how you’re a retard and brown and can’t even hide it
>>215524646Now do Snyder's version of the Kents.Telling Superman he doesn't owe the world anything and he should hide his powers.Uncle Ben would be spinning in his grave.The Kents are far more relevant as they actually raised Clark and are still alive.Although I'll be curious to see how Supergirl is affected by this. Seeing as she was actually raised as a Kryptonian.
>im going to send my son, one of the last of my race, to a planet where he’ll he essentially God, for uh p-purely altruistic reasonsThe point of Superman is jor-el is basically irrelevant. The people who raise him on earth determines who he’ll be. They are the source of his values and beliefs and they are carried by an entity that will never suffer the need to question or compromise those values, who will always rise to whatever is challenging his beliefs.
>>215528656This. Jor El was always irreverent the entire Golden Age. Only Silver Age when Krypton got more focus. Jor El was just some scientist that sent his son away to save his life. That was m it. Superman always been about integrating American values. Truth. Justice and the American Way
>>215528656>The point of Superman is jor-el is basically irrelevantThen why make his motivations relevant just to subvert them?
>>215528774What are you talking about? Donner did his own thing with Jor El that Synder just piggie backed off of. Gunn’s version is close to John Byrnes version of Kryptonians where they are almost Vulcan like. Where they wanted Superman to continue the Kryptonian way. They even sent The Eradicator which MOS turned into Zod to accomplish it using the Eradication World Engine
>>215524646>Stop, invincible son.>Go forth, invincible son.The duality of Superman.
>>215528888Jor-El was still a kind hearted idealist in Byrnes MoS. When she says that he may rule Earth all Jor-El says is "perhaps". Gunn made them more like Saiyans than Vulcans from what we've seen.
>comic character gets reinterpreted a thousand times over, each new writer/artist with different ideas >a bunch of stuff people think "is superman," is stuff added in adaptations like radio shows etc over the years e.g. Kryptonite. Capeshit fans are brain-dead. >Muh you didn't get the character.
>>215524678Ok pedo.
>>215529199>comic character gets reinterpreted a thousand times over, each new writer/artist with different ideasThis narrative was strangely absent upon criticizing MoS/BvS.
>>215527881>>215528517I like how i have to share the planet with your shitskin brain IQOh fucking wait nope i hate it and you hate yourself too
>>215529178I agree, but Jor El being a tyrant is nothing new. Smallville did it then pussied out at the end and didn’t fully commit. Had him as a tyrant type character most the show and then did the “ah, well it was a teaching lesson”
>>215529434This was also Smallville's Deathstroke so their track record wasn't the greatest. I'm just tired of seeing capeshit movies ruin characters because they typically end up being the default version. Gunn's GOTG is an example of this. It started as an interpretation but now Peter Quill is just a manchild redditor who shouts 80s references
>>215528888>Gunn’s version is close to John Byrnes version of Kryptonians where they are almost Vulcan like.No, it fucking isn't. Byrne's Els never told Superman to rape and enslave others. In fact Jor was aware that kryptonians were pre-programed and cold, and Krypton was doomed. Something that Snyder used.Fsggot.
>>215528888>rape & breed the goygo fuck yourself
Gunn has a very traumatized childhood. He was most likely molested.
>>215524646>complaining about gunn not getting something while posting apic that includes snydershitkekstop crying
>>215524646>Why doesn’t Gunn understand Superman?pedo jew cant seperate his own kinks and shit from fiction
>>215530790oh boo hoo so was i and i turned out ok
>>215524646The Kents matter a hundred times more than Jor-El, so fucking them up like Snyder did is a much bigger misunderstanding of Superman.
>>215531252This. Only reason Jor El ever even became even more then a plot device character is because Brando played him
>>215531252>so fucking them up like Snyderhow did sneeder fuck up the kents?
>>215531873You really have to ask that?
>>215531903you sound like a retard to be honest family, based pa kent was a real human being with fears and insecurities and thought it was too soon for supes to reveal his powers and he would be a target of control and manipulation and he sacrificed himself to give his beloved adopted son a chance at freedombravo sneederin contrast, gunn's kent molested him and turned him into a gay jew
>>215531244Anon, I... Becoming gay due to being molested is not okay.
>>215532195oh no not my big titty mom it was horriblesorry ur turning gay lol
>>215524646It's weird how both DC films flirt with the idea of the protagonist's dead parents being evil but don't commit to it, instead making them morally grey instead of the paragons of hope they typically are.
>>215525052> This...and that is why Snyder Kents are the biggest mistake of that shitshowI agree. Making them so bleak was fucking stupid. “Stop my invincible son” was shit too, but I also think there is some potential in the idea of pa Kent being a cautious and cynical provided it’s something to be solved. >Maybe he starts off idealistic>Some incident happens and he becomes more cautious and cynical >This could become a point of contention between them, possibly causing a rift because Clark still believes in the values Pa and Ma Kent instilled in him even if Pa is weary>Later on after Clark has gained some experience as Superman and got his ass beat by Zod he comes back to the farm in a long time>His suit is damaged and he begins to have second doubts, not quitting but wondering if he’s done the right thing.>Pa tells Clark he was wrong about what he said and that Clark has become something more and people need him>Pa says they made him a little something just in case he ever came back home>Ma comes out with a suit she made for him (it’s the classic red trunks suit that’s faithful to the comics)>Pa encourages Clark to continue being Superman, reinvigorating Clark to get back into actionAnd then maybe throw in a scene of him reacting to Clark during his time as Superman before this or something about how humanity is Clark’s greatest strength and that’s how he beats Zod or whatever idk.
>>215532556You're basically describing the end of the movie and BvS.
>>215532556>i didn't watch the movie and am a huge retardwhat >>215532739 said
Remember when they wrote a comic to explain that Superman is a US citizen that was born on earth?
