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Why doesn't CGI scare me as much as janky practical effects?
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>>215531700
Your brain has an easier time subconsciously registering CGI is fake because it's still just imperfect enough where the physics / visuals can't perfectly capture reality.
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>>215531700
because Steven King is a genius.

and basically your retarded.
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>>215531700
Because your brain knows its fake too well.
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>>215531813
My retarded what?
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>>215531700
Why do boomers think fake puppets look better than good CGI?
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>>215531700
A reminder Horror is the stupidest genre of movies, only enjoyed by 10 year old edgelord boys and the retarded men that groom them.
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>>215531700
I wish his brother would've kicked his ass
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>>215531853
Boomers love puppets for some reason
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>>215532912
Puppets are based
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>>215531853
It does... Fucking idiot. Go gen this same scene with AI and it will still look like shit. Go ahead I fucking dare you coward. CGI is a shit cheap excuse
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those effects aren't "janky" OP
there is literally not a better way to create a screen-ready demonic clown monster than that scene
the makeup looks like a professional clown, the teeth look real, the contact application is perfect without any drifting.
it just takes elbow grease and it probably only cost 200 bucks altogether
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>>215531721
This, even the most turbo realistic billion dollar CGI is still clearly fake. Practical effects even if "fake" are in the real world.
It's also why practical effects virtually don't age but CGI does and like milk. In films that use both like say, Alien 3 the CGI parts are clearly aged like a motherfucker while the practical scenes are as good as on release.
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>>215531853
>he has to SPECIFICALLY talk about knowingly the worse practical effects compared to "good CGI" to have a win
Now compare the best of both, little zoomeroid
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>>215531853
It's like a religious belief that they will zealously defend until the death.
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>>215531700
Old effects were usually done in camera adding an extra layer of realism, but not so real as to be 'realistic'. Gave a surreal effect instead, which added to the dream-like nature of it.
Like stop-motion which was used in this scene.
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>>215534068
Is this bait? The spinosaur from JP3 looked like a joke. Even any CGI from that time 20 years ago looked better lol
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>>215531700
Actors are able to effectively play off of something that's actually there. Furthermore, it forces whatever it is to move realistically through the environment, giving it weight.

CGI is often very floaty and out of place. There's also the temptation to show the creature constantly, which isn't scary. Suspense is what's scary. Take The Mothman Prophecies for example, where you don't see anything most of the time.
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>>215534995
I don't see an AI or CGI image proving your point
I only see that you are retarded
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>>215535569
ayo this unc scared of puppets lmao
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>>215535692
There is literally nothing scary about CGI or puppets
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>>215531700
Because Tim Curry did so much cocaine that it made him a cripple. You don't get that kind of talent nowadays.
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>>215531700
The soulless eyes are scarier than the sharp teeth
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>>215531700
For me is the sligthy bulbous head that subtly suggest some monster is disguising itself.
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>>215531700
Because practical effects are real. Its a real thing standing there with real blood and goo dripping off it. CGI is fake. Its a non existent thing being placed in a shot after the fact. The lighting, how it moves, how its constructed. There will always be something off about CGI and your brain knows it
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>>215531700

Because Tim Curry's acting makes Pennywise seem approachable and chummy while still being off. To an adult he seems creepy of course, but you can understand why a child would be confused right up to the moment when he pounces. Also they juxatposed his red/white unnatural presence with the normal surroundings better, he visually looks out of place and strange.

In the new movies they fucked his up by making him look just too horror creepy from the start, so the pretense that he's some giddy goofy clown is never there to begin with. also his palette matches the surroundings always so again he just doesn't look so strangely normal but out of place, like it did in the miniseries.
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>>215536951
Wrong. Its not real. Its not real blood. Its not a real robot. Its not a real dinosaur etc. Modern day CGI absolutely mogs practical effects. Just look at Avatar. It would look like shit if it was all puppets.
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The entire town of Derry looked fake as shit. I couldn't suspend my retard brain and enjoy it. Why can't they film in a real American town?
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>>215531813
Stephen King's books suck. Only the movie adaptations make him look better than he is. He's a great idea's man, but his storytelling is fucking boring as shit.
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>>215534348
the death of what?
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practical effects actually look tangible no matter how silly they might be executed
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>>215537692
It does look like shit and 20 years will show that like every single time.
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>>215534221
I love practical effects and I love Alien, but there's that one practical effect of a guy clearly in an Alien costume moving towards the camera that did absolutely age like milk.
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Because “bad” looking practical effects still look like they’re physically there.

If anything the fact you can tell it doesn’t look “real” can add to the grotesque nature of it

CGI effects in comparison still looks way too artificial to be as scary as regular practical

Good comparison in the same movie I would say. Is how Bill Skarsgard with prosthetics and makeup on looks way scarier than any single CGI monster we also see in either of the IT movies (not that they were particularly scary movies anyway but there’s a noticeable difference between scaring audiences and the kind of “safe scare” where they are more meant to be excited I guess)
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>>215531721
It's not only imperfect, it's actually wildly fluctuating in quality, and is spammed so much that humans are being trained and are evolving to notice it by being over exposed to it.
Same reason why A.I. shit is going to take a very very long time indeed to catch up to other effects, because human beings are being overexposed to it and are being rapidly trained to spot it. I personally doubt A.I. imaging and videos will ever be good enough because the people using them are so irresponsible.
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>>215538500
Just look at this stupid thing, they really couldn’t make some old lady monster prosthetics? Sam Raimi did that on a student film budget in the eighties
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>>215538513
This is true but wouldn’t kids who grow up in the age of AI be so overexposed they wouldn’t be able to tell the difference between AI and reality anyway?

Especially since any recordings they would make themselves would use filters and shit
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>practical effects are bette-ACK!
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>>215531700
IT scared me when I was 6 years old. When I watched it as an adult I enjoyed it and found it almost comedic, especially the ending where they all crowd around the spider monster and start punching and kicking it then hold its heart up in the air.
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>>215538692
This looks stupid as fuck. Like something from a Tim Burton flick.
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>>215537692
>lil unc has no picture or webm as a example
Crashing out fr
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>>215531700
>>215538500
I respect the fact they realized they would never top Tim Curry so they went in a completely different direction
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The spider from the 1990 version felt like it came out of nowhere. When I was a kid, I thought the spider was like a miniboss they had to defeat before finally facing Pennywise himself. But no, they kill it and that’s the end. Very disappointing. At least in the new version the spider still looks like a clown.
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>>215531853
Fake puppets look uncanny and thus scary.
CGI will forever look fake.
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>>215538923
>Tim Burton
Augustus Gloop, Augustus Gloop...
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>>215540391
I think the Tim Burton Charlie and the Chocolate Factory was the moment I realized excess CGI was an abomination.
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>>215531700
the jank introduces that uncanny valley element whereas cgi just looks like a goofy videogame
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>>215540391
Graped.
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>>215531700
Because CGI is smooth while practical effects (stop motion/claymation in particular) tend to be jerky and jarring.
It has nothing to do with your brain registering CGI as fake however like this retard >>215531721 is saying, but because the sudden movement is unlike how real living things move.



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