What a fucking chud, just let people enjoy things
>>215540376Dean Cundey is a great dp
Carpenter had like 3 good movies in 60 years
>>215540376It wasn't scary and nothing about the body horror is anything you haven't seen already. Its only praised for its message.
>>215540376I love how perpetually high Carpenter sounds.https://youtube.com/shorts/DhSyFrxTxoc?si=WL5rlBHqbF2GTNRi
>>215540492Seeing woman moment after woman moment unfold and the women actually suffer consequences for it was pretty funny though
>>215540376I honestly liked Substance up until the last ten minutes or so. It went from a 7/10 to a 5/10 off the back of the ending for me.
>>215540376I've never seen it but I like Carpenter's movies so I'm inclined to agree.
>>215540376i liked the ending sequence, but yep, it was a stretched black mirror episode
>What a fucking chad, shame people who enjoy shitty thingsFixed that for the cock gobbling faggot OP
>>215540651Twilight Zone episode
>>215540376Because he found Qualley to be ugly. Gigabased
>>215540376He should really have some actual criticism if he's going to shit on a younger director that worships him
>>215540475And i'm thankful for it.
>>215540376spoilers
>>215540376he's obviously just jealous his movies never included extended aerobics class ass closeup scenes.
>>215540376Not that I really care because it's nothing great and certainly not as good as Carpenter's best films but this would honestly be pretty devastating for the chick that directed it. She's named Carpenter as an influence and a filmmaker she loves numerous times. Imagine how it would feel to be told by one of your heroes that they hated your most prominent work.
>>215540376>can’t explain why he didn’t like itlol
>>2155403761. carpenter has never made a good movie2. i havent seen the substance but im sure it sucks >BUT THE WOMAN WHO MADE IT WILL FEEL BAD HE SHOULD NOT BE ABLE TO TELL HIS OPINION BECAUSE HER FEELINGS OMGGGG THE LIMITS OF PUBLIC DISCOURSE SHOULD BE DICTATED BY WAMENS DELICATE EMOTIONSabsolutely cattle brained
>>215540821>carpenter has never made a good movieThe Thing is one of the best horror movies of all time.
>>215540376He's so based
>>215540821I don't think he should be prevented from voicing his opinion, I'd encourage more filmmakers to be as honest with theirs, but that chick would still feel like shit. That's not a good or bad thing, it's just a thing.
>>215540854It is the best horror film of all time. You can argue The Shining maybe but that’s it.
>>215540854its actually boring as shit
>>215540780>can't you assume he can't? i think he is biting his tongue from doing so kek
>>215540899you are a retarded zoomer
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>>215540899You’ll say shit like this and then be too scared to recommend superior movies in the genre
>>215540376>Everything!Can't say I disagree, but if Carpenter took the time to comment he should have made a list.
>>215540881My fav. horror movies are pretty much The Thing, The Shining and Texas Chainsaw Massacre, i think they all made foundations for movies to come later and TRY TO perfect it.>>215540376He is correct of course. The movie felt like overlong '90s music video and i have no idea why it could have not been 90min runtime.The ending tried ot say something but it went hollow.t. screenwriter
>>215540899Your genereation never had a good movie and never will
>>215540942not at all, i just think its pointless. you will want to retaliate and so forth. just assume i name 10 movies that you hate to save us both some time. in my honest opinion you could pick any horror movie that was released in the last 10 years with an imdb rating above 6 and i would say it is better as a movie than the thing. carpenter is obviously amazing at some things, especially coming up with imagery and music that stays with you, but he is not good at storytelling
I didn't like The Thing or Halloween.
>>215540376John Carpenter?IIsn't he the guy who made loads of films about a dead paedophile meeting up with kids in their dreams and doing unspeakable things to them?Forgive me if I don't take a nonce's opinion as gospel.
>>215540993I accept your concession.
>>215540376>What a fucking chud, just let people enjoy thingsHe said he didn't like something, not lambast others and tell them not to like something.You should depart this mortal coil if you're too fucking stupid to possess reading comprehension.
>>215540775>a woman might feel badOMG STOP EVERYTHINGhttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zjc1AFpqIw0
>>215540475>>215540821>Halloween>The Thing>They Live>Escape from NYthat's at least 4 kino certified classics, and his other movies are still goodthe fact that he composed the Halloween Theme puts him on another level as a film maker toohe defined the Slasher genre and his formula is still being imitated to this dayyou can pretend, but you really can't deny his greatnessyou look like a fucking retard when you do
>>215540492It's supposed to be funny, not scary.
Carpenter is a fucking jealous midwit
>>215540628Agreed, I felt like the ending was needlesly trying to hammer home something that it already conveyed naturally.
>>215541001You're thinking of Wes Craven.
>>215540899Don't expect anyone to take your shit opinions seriously. In fact, please use a trip so I can filter them completely.
>>215541001Thats Wes Craven, John Carpenter is the guy who makes boring horror movies with cool music.
>>215541031I didn't say he shouldn't say it. He should be allowed to voice his opinion, I just feel for anyone that's told they're shit by their heroes. Can't even imagine how bad that would feel. I guess it's on her to make better movies.
>>215540930>"Call me Snek"Kino.
>>215541130If the lady doesn't have thick skin by now it's crazy she's survived this long. What's left for Carpenter to do is tell her all the reasons why it's shit otherwise she and anybody else on the same path won't learn to do better.
>>215540651Shut up, Andy.
>>215541207>If the lady doesn't have thick skin by now it's crazy she's survived this longto be fair as far as I know she hasn't said anything about his opinions. But the opinion of someone you genuinely admire and aspire to be like is different to some random guy on the internet or faggot critic.If I were her that's what I would do. I'd have my agent/manager set up a meeting so I could discuss what he actually hated about it and how he felt I could improve as a filmmaker.
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>>215541292>NO, THEY DIDNT PAY ATTENTION TO ME!>THEY'RE TOO SERIOUS UNLIKE ME ,IM COOL!he sound like a huge fag,the kind that peaked in college and has been bitter for 30+ years over losing friends
>muh yuppies culture bad>NOOOO NOT LIKE THAT!
>>215540475Yeah, and they're ALL GOOD
>>215540376That long-haired Biden looking mothafucka hates everything but he has a point with >>215541292 horror is either A24 le atmospheric or extremely low garbage like Terrifier. There's no "blue collar" horror anymore like he did with Christine or Halloween.
He can't give a more detailed answer because he has dementia.
>>215541509he seems like a human who has been old and bitter his entire life and is very very skilled at it. i love how much of a cunt carpenter is, it informs everything he touches.
>>215540993kill (fünf)yourself
The Substance is about not wasting your life with vapid shit, and John Carpenter thinks that marrying and having children is anuddah Shoah, so it checks out.
>>215541974John Carpenter is not jewish and has told stories about jewish horror directors like croenenberg and roth pushing him out of their select circles
>>215540475They LiveThe ThingBig Trouble in Little ChinaEscape From New YorkVampiresVampires was the movie that made me respect Ebert. He straight up said that James Woods deserved an Oscar for that movie. The movie itself he didn't like but James Woods went so hard in that movie he loved every second of him being on screen and if someone can do such a bang up job with a role they make what would have been a shit movie really fun to watch, that person should get recognized for the achievement.
>>215541055Big Trouble in Little China is a lot of fun and the rest of his 'Apocalypse Trilogythat The Thing is a part of is good too
>>215542080Actually, my bad, Siskel wanted Woods to get the Oscar. Ebert agreed that Woods was far and away the best part of the movie and deserved the praise he got for his role though.
>>215542097Shit, I forgot about In the Mouth of Madness which is in my top ten horror movies of all time. It's kind of funny that two of my top ten horror movies features Sam Neil going insane.
>>215542080Vampires: Los Muertos stars jon bon jovi and carl winslow's son and has minimal carpenter involvement. i love that movie.
based. it was dogshit.
>>215540628Yeah it was fucking goofy long
>>215540881The Fly is the best for me.
It's bad because of the hit you over the head messaging, and the content of the message which is, as usual, everything bad in women's lives is men's fault>ITS YOUR FAULT THAT I'M INSANELY VAIN AND SUPERFICIAL TO THE POINT THAT I'LL KILL MYSELF WITH BODY HORROR GOO TO LOOK SEXY AGAIN! YOU SHOULD KEEP WORSHIPPING ME AND LET ME LEAD AN AEROBICS TV SHOW EVEN WHEN I'M WRINKLY AND CAN'T LIFT MY LEGS HIGHER THAN KNEE HIGH AND NEED TO TAKE A 30 MINUTE BREAK AFTER 5 MINUTES OF ACTIVITY
>>215540376Carpenter is a slopster. I assume The Substance is slop, too, but I didn't and won't watch it.
>>215540475spbp, cant take horrorslop seriously
>>215541055>he defined the Slasher genre and his formula is still being imitated to this dayIs this supposed to be praise?
>>215542325rent free
>>21554037630 minutes worth of dubious substance flick
I like how much of a dick he is but at the same time Im sure it feels bad. Eli Roth, now I don't like his movies, but he seems like just a guy who enjoys horror so having Carpenter who I'm sure is one of his favorite directors insult him has to feel bad, same with the french chick who directed substance. Cronenberg and Aronofsky deserve it THOUGH
the underlying message was very heavy handed, but I think it's a fun, well made body horror.still doesn't hold a candle to Carpenter's best films.
Horror is not for everyone
>>215540376>find someone who doesn't like something you do>make a huge temper tantrum about it>call him names onlineHoly shit, it's a woman on /tv/
>>215540700Her face is not great for a famous actress. Sydney Sweeney is shit talked constantly for her face but Qualley is just as bad
>>215542645Yeah, can't imagine John Carpenter being fond of horror.
>>215540376>just let people enjoy thingsIf you watch the interview he doesn't say anything bad towards the interviewer who said he liked The Substance, so he literally lets people enjoy things despite himself not finding the movie good. I only didn't like that he snarkily replied to the question of "what didn't you like about it" with "everything". Fuck does that even mean. And mind you, Carpenter was the one to ask the question about The Substance to the interviewer, not the other way around, he started the conversation.
>>215541292>he didn't even look at meCarpenter literally describes the situation as "Cronenberg was holding court". I assume he literally didn't see him. Maybe try saying hello or something.
>>215542886>So did you like that new popular movie you reviewed highly?>it is shit and i am superior for sayiing so
>>215542886>Fuck does that even meanIt means he didn't like anything about the movie, it's very basic english
>>215542972>i'm superior for saying soHe didn't say this, you're just making shit up.
>>2155410011. Wes Craven made Nightmare2. Freddy is shown as an evil guy doing evil things. How is that a writers fetish? Or do you just search for straws to pull but from a snowman instead of scarecrow?
>>215543003What, he didn't like the excellent practical effects either? There could've at least elaborated on what specifically bugged him about at least one of the things. "I didn't like the cinematography cause it had super weird closeups which I found annoying" or "I usually like electronic music, i literally write soundtracks myself, but I thought the soundtrack here was ass, annoying". At least something like that. Again, if the interviewer was the one to bug him with the question I would get the response, but he was the one who started the conversation only to brush it off immediately.
>>215540376Can't blame him. The "Substance" was without any substance.
I liked the substance but the ending was retarded pretentious shit. I also see why Carpenter might hate it. Back in his era it was all about having fun with a horror concept. Nowadays everything needs to have le meaning and be a metaphor for something. I mean, old horror films also did this but were less subtle about it.
>>215541292Masters of Horror was shit so I'm inclined to believe the majority of them are entitled pricks.
>>215543161more subtle*
>>215540930He also made Escape from LA which was shit.
>>215543161So what you're saying is, old horror films had more substance?
The Substance was shit, he is totally right.The writing is just bad, the characters are dumb in a weird way, it's too self aware. The whole "woman ages and becomes irrelevant" theme was not throughly explored to be called a social critique, or a comedy, or a horror. it's just too heavy handled.
>>215540775I wouldn't care.
>>215543264LA was the kind of profoundly shit movie that has to be a shitpost and I like it for that.
You don't understandI'm playing a caricatureAre you sure
>>215543265they had less substance. that's what made them fun. when the substance lost its substance in the end and went stupid, it was just stupid because you were like "what do they mean by this" instead of going "man, this shit is fun". the substance is the worst part of the substance.
>>215540376I thought John Carpenter was dead!?
>>215540593don't they still suggest it's because of the expectations men or society place on them or some dumb shit? Scenes like Dennis Quaid eating he shrimp?
>>215540475You can be a living legend and an irrelevant dinosaur at the same time
>>215540775Well Carpenter doesn't like anything and she should've made a better movie.
>>215540475Halloween may be the most imitated movie of all time, rivaled only by Seven Samurai.
>>215543614Imitated by shit movies.
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095971/
>>215543614Halloween is just a rehash of Psycho lol
>>215543775They are almost nothing alike.
>>215540376>make the mistake of watching some chick react to The Thing>she literally keeps saying "This is just like The Substance"
john carpenter hates everything that doesn't make him money
>>215543994never happened
>>215543161nigga, Carpenter is the director who made They Live which had at the time the bluntest social commentary put on screen since any random WW2 propaganda film made during the 40s
The Substance was dogshit because the premise doesn't even make sense. Each body is separate despite the movie trying to convince you otherwise. Evident by the fact they continually betray each other and wake up to the other fucking up their lives.Now imagine if I said you could have everything you want in life, BUT you have to sleep in a closet for every second week and you don't get to experience the good parts. You'd tell me to fuck off.Retard movie for retards.
>>215540376can someone reword what he's saying? The negative phrasing is confusing me (esl)
>>215545289There was nothing he liked.
>>215540775>>215541130I've been told by the person I admire most in my field that I'm delusional and to never talk to him again and it did honestly fuck me up about a year. But in the end it also steeled my resolve that I have to do what I'm doing for myself instead of validation. It fucked up my relationship with his work though, I can't look at it without remembering the guy I modeled myself after hates my guts and thinks I'm a loser, lol
>>215540475most directors dont even have one good movie anon
