>the mind control and the torture curse get you an immediate life sentencefair enough>the painless killing curse also gets you an immediate life sentence>but using a spell to cut somebody's limbs off and bleed to death or boiling them alive or transporting them into a volcano or any of the million other ways to torture or kill somebody just gets you a regular prison sentenceI don't get the rules of the Harry Potter universe
None of those spells are curses.
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>>215541076>DEH
>>215541076a woman wrote the story,anon keep that in mind
>>215541076You can use the boiling blood spell to just boil water for your pasta, and is in fact why the spell was designed to do in the first placeYou can't use the killing curse for anything other than killing, with intention and prejudiceImagine banning knives because you can stab people with those
>>215541240>Imagine banning knives because you can stab people with thosevery cleaver, Anon
>>215541105Sectumsempra certainly is, but it's also unknown before the last couple of books, so I guess that's why it can't be used as proof on either side of the argument.>>215541076Now, the issue is that the killing curse is only that. It's sole purpose is to kill. There's nothing else that it can ever do, save for ripping the soul out of a living body. You can make arguments all day long about other curses which maim and cause pain and- yes- kill, but there's no argument to be made about the killing curse. It is what it is and you can't claim you meant anything other than murder. It's the blatant and inapologetic nature of Avada Kedavra is what makes it unforgivable.
What is the prison sentence for tricking a 12 year old girl into getting on your flying jalopy, doing things to her, and then strangling her with her own hogwarts scarf?
>>215541440A dementor's kill, administered through the asshole
>>215541076How do you even get falsely imprisoned in this world? Couldnt sirius black have pulled out his memory and put it in that dumbledore memory reader thing to show everyone he didnt do the thing? Does dumbledore have the only one of those in existance and they cant make others or something?
>>215541515Why aren't they time travelling and witness the murder? Why aren't there magic cctv cameras in every object?
>>215541549Idk, the gif newspapers seem to get footage of everything even without people there
>>215541076Don’t worry about world building from a woman, nevertheless a woman who wrote a children’s fantasy series.She made an effort later in the series, it’s carried by its charm and interesting setting but that’s about it. Once you start to go further than the surface it becomes apparent how poorly constructed the world is.Look at Tolkien or even germ. Those are works and worlds with thought and and at least some consistency in mind when creating them.
>>215541515Nah, the memories can be faked. Slughorn clearly pulled a scene he invented out of his ass and passed it off as a memory, so Sirius could have just imagined himself drinking an iced-tea while the muggles spontaneously dropped dead and tried to use that as a defense. The real problem comes with truth potions. JK really fucked the stakes of the story by bringing that in.
>>215541591I think the reason they have consistency is actually because they're written to be inconsistent. Tolkien and GRRM don't explain their magic at all, it simply can't be understood, so when shit happens we mere mortal readers just have to go "whoa, no idea how that worked, magic is crazy".As soon as Rowling says "this spell causes x to happen and it can't be blocked under any circumstances" then it just opens up all these questions about times it didn't work.
It's a book for kids about kids going to a magical school that has been turned into a film for kids. What level of worldbuilding and internal consistency are some of you expecting? It's not that kind of movie.
>>215541696Then why is the plot so convoluted to require plot devices that contradict themselves?
>>215541291>but there's no argument to be made about the killing curse. It is what it is and you can't claim you meant anything other than murder.Can it be used against animals? If so it could be used as a quick and painless way to have them put down, be it for meat consumption or because theyre very old/sick.
>>215541076Killing is based, but wizards insist you at least be creative about it.>>215541153This is the real reason, though.
>>215541076>t. anti-gun retardthere's a difference between shooting a gun and murder
>>215541291But it can be used for mercy kills
>>215541076Suffice to say it's a series written by a woman. They don't have the worldbuilding autism that men have.
>>215542025Are there any YA series with good worldbuilding? I think Artemis Fowl is neat, no?
>>215541076>I don't get the rules of the Harry Potter universeThere aren't any. Magic shifts to suit the story. Either a magician can appear in your room, or you can move to Australia to get away from him, depending on how lazy the author is today.When you tell a story with magic in it, build reasons why the magic doesn't ruin the story. People with the most superpowers have no problems, therefore no story.
>>215541076How about you avada, time travel five minutes back, avada, time travel again, etc.?
>the most powerful spell is... ABRA KADABRA
>>215541240You can use the killing curse for hunting and self defense
>>215541076>>but using a spell to cut somebody's limbs off and bleed to death or boiling them alive or transporting them into a volcano or any of the million other ways to torture or kill somebody just gets you a regular prison sentenceThey have healing magic so I assume this is more of a minor inconvenience for wizards
Deh
>>215541515Sirius didn't have a trial, Barty Crouch suspended such rights to try fighting Voldemort.
>>215541076I've never understood why reddit has so much problems with this. The rest of the curses aren't that terrible, limbs can be regrown and other curses could be used in legitimate self-defense scenarios.
>>215541291>YES, YES, HARRY KILLED A MAN WITH A BOMBARDA SPELL... HOWEVER!! BOMBARDA CAN BE USED FOR OTHER STUFF OTHER THAN KILLING SO 50 POINTS TO GRYFFINDOR FOR CLEVERLY FINDING WAYS TO KILL PEOPLE AND AVOIDING THE FULL SENTENCE
>>215543422That I actually think is a neat bit of world building. If wizards were always so shit at hiding from people across history, with some having no qualms showing themselves and killing them willy nilly, it makes sense that the curse that insta kills you would go on to be the one with the most staying power in the memory of muggles rather than the spell that vanish your shit
>>215541076>I don't get the rules of the Harry Potter universeThey're young adult books that don't make any sense if you give the universe a second thought. For fucks sakes he's some high level asset that keeps encountering more dangers each year he returns to school, it's ridiculous and most of the situations he finds himself in should only by tackled by high level wizards or aurors rather than some teenage boy who doesn't know shit about fuck.
>>215541591Asoiaf isn't consistent, though mostly because gurm doesn't understand scale.>44444Mother of wastes. Kys yourself.
harry potter smokes weed was the best thing to come out of it
>>215541240>OI MATE YOU GOT A LOISENSE FOR THAT WAND THEREand they just hand these out to 11 year olds (unless you get falsely accused of opening the chamber of secrets as a teenager, then you can never own one again)
