So why did the jews hate Jesus so much? Wasn't he just going around healing people and teaching them to be kind to their neighbours? Why did this man enflame the jews so much?
Be He said the truth about (((them))) to (((their))) viper faces.
>>215544136The Jews who did not receive the gospel were waiting for a warrior messiah that would free them from roman rule. They all died in the span of a generation as they got the war they were looking for and the second temple was destroyed Kaifa and his buddies in particular were probably also hostile towards him because he threatened their power by doing away with most laws and commandments that empowered them and called them whitewashed tombs
>>215544499>The Jews who did not receive the gospel were waiting for a warrior messiah that would free them from roman ruleSounds like they wanted Bar Khoba
>worship me as god>give all your money to peter and be my cult slave>if you don't obey me I will burn you in magic lavawhat an obnoxious narcissist
>guy claims to be GodBlasphemy >performs “miracles”Blasphemy >encourages idolatry Blasphemy >condemns the orthodoxy of the Law Blasphemy >DUDE LE LOVE EACH OTHER And last, but not least, cringe.
>go to law school for years>rack up tons of debt>finally get a decent job>some dickhead blue collar from bumfuckville says the law doesn't matter
>>215544677>guy claims to be GodJesus never said that. Read Acts 6-7. >Look,” he said, “I see heaven open and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God.It doesn't say Jesus was God but he serves God, second in command. Nothing about the pagan trinity etc.
>>215544546Pretty much. Barabbas was most likely incarcerated for being a seditious rebel, so chasing him over Jesus was a no brainer for them. Too bad they didn't get the memo that the messiah had already come, so they marched straight into genocide. Alas. I guess the meeks do inherit the earth in the end
>>215544720Nope. See John 10:30
>>215544841John 1:1. The Word aka Jesus had a beginning
>>215544136>why did traditionalists hate an upstart cultist?What a question If you care about Jewish sectarian bullshit you're retarded>healing peopleMagical healing doesn't exist. There's still shysters doing the same shit today
>>215544867It doesn't say he had a beginning. It says he already existed in the beginning.Also that doesn't change the fact he exalts himself equal and inseparable from god the father in 10:30Which doesn't make sense because how can he be forsaken on the cross if they are "one"
>>215544934"In the beginning" can't apply to God because he has no beginning
>demonize jews for thinking jesus wasn’t the messiah >christians literally can’t even agree on their own religion amongst themselves Lmao
>>215545039those aren't the only options bro
How the hell do people pull bible verses out of their asses on the drop of a hat? >I studied the bible!And I read harry potter, that doesn't mean I could name the chapter and page number of a specific quote of a character
>>215545097childhood indoctrination/memorization
Miracles and prophecies aside, the story of Jesus is about him going from temple to temple and calling out the religious leaders and literally calling them satan worshipers to their face and saying all their laws and rules didn’t matter. He started gathering a very large following very quickly and was an obvious threat to the people in power. He also basically says that the covenant they had with god is null and void and because the semites were such insufferable people, all the goys were now welcome in the kingdom of heaven. This of course was the final straw. The Romans couldn’t have cared less because the schizo desert people in the province of Judah were always squabbling or revolting over something.
>>215544610>>215545039>>215545072>>215545115You can stop being a fag and repent any time you want. Jesus will forgive you.
Jesus Christ was the equivalent of Rey Skywalker. “And he can like turn water to fine and bread to fish he’s so awesome”Is this really so hard to understand? He was ruining the narrative. He was a Gary Stu. You only think he’s cool because you grew up Christian the same way your retarded parents made you watch Disney Star Wars like retards.
>>215545097>How the hell do people pull bible verses out of their asses on the drop of a hat?By looking it up. As long as you know what the passage you're looking for is about they're pretty easy to find. It's why Christians added chapters and verses to make it easily referencable, you don't even need to quote the actual passage, you can just quote chapter and verse and make the other person look it up>that doesn't mean I could name the chapter and page number of a specific quote of a characterBut if you knew what the quote was about, like say the first mention of the Timeturner, you could quickly find that page. The bibble is easier to do it with because it is easily searchable online
>>215545169I'm just not gonna worship a Jew
>>215544136>teaching them to be kind to their neighboursrich and powerful people hate socialists like you wouldn't believe
>Jesus Christ was the equivalent of Rey Skywalker. “And he can like turn water to fine and bread to fish he’s so awesome”>He was a Gary Stu. You only think he’s cool because you grew up Christian the same way your retarded parents made you watch Disney Star Wars like retards.He’s right you know
>>215545238>>215545258Typical reddit responses. Most likely Indian
>>215545324>wah how could anyone not want to worship the Jew?!Fuck off
Jesus was not a Jedi
>>215544136>Wasn't he just going around healing peopleHe was doing it for free.
>performed no miracles before the court>offered no arguments in his defense>many witnesses spoke out against him>none of his followers spoke out in support>all from the gospel accounts of the trial btw, a neutral observer would have seen things even more harshlyGenuinely why were they supposed to believe him? Because he said so?
>>215545039No religion can.Its why there's different sects of every imaginable religion.You have to remember also that there is no 'original' religion, they all interwine somehow.
>>215544136Jews are self-hating.
>>215544136Because he was the messiah subverting their expectations of some powerhouse entity that would slaughter all their enemies and proclaim them kings of the world. >Jews: We are all important! >Big Jeezy: Lol nah, bro. Everybody can be saved. >Jews: REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>215545352Christianity is an explicitly anti-jewish religion.
>>215545692It's anti-Pharisee, not anti-Jewish. Paul himself wanted to reconcile Jews and Gentiles together. Pharisees are the fathers of the Talmud, which basically states Jesus is burning in hell in excrement and that Goys should be treated like animals.
>>215545713I know all that. In this instance I was replying to the hindoo’s “kike on a stick” argument. So in this instance I was using “jewish” to refer to judaism the religion not the ethnicity
>>215545692>believe in jewish god >believe in jewish mythology >believe in jewish prophecy >believe in jewish laws
>>215544136He broke their pride by taking away their status as the only people who will be with the father.
>>215545907>Doesn't fulfill the Jewish's belief and concept of a Messiah What now? Why do you think he was killed in the first place?
>>215544136What was his problem?
>>215545692Yeah, considering Jewish scripture holy and worshipping one of them is totally anti-JewishOh, wait, no, that's retarded >>215545857It doesn't matter what semantic game bullshit you want to play, Christianity is Jewish trash
>>215546077Or you got psyopped into thinking with the behavior of the Jews after Christ's death through the centuries has now meant that Christianity is for them. See:>>215545713>>215545984
>>215546102I don't care about your Jewish bullshit
>>215546132*tips fedora* *euphoria increases*
>>215544136jews want to cut off the dicks of babies and suck the blood (bris) and spread other forms of sodomy and child abuse (lgbqt/trans kids), I didn’t make this up idk why they want these things even in the modern age but obviously Jesus wasn’t gonna stand for that shit, idk why we modern people do
>>215546250Oh, shit, you've convinced me! I'm gonna go worship the Jew right now!>>215546280>Jesus wasn’t gonna stand for that shit,Where did he say anything against it? Can you quote that in the any Gospel?Luke 2:21>On the eighth day, when it was time to circumcise the child, he was named Jesus, the name the angel had given him before he was conceivedDoesn't seem he had any issue with it
Why is everybody ignoring that the whole point of Christ's first coming was to tempt evil to prevail so that later, when he comes back, there can be no confusion? The whole point was to create a situation where if a second coming is necessary, it can be done with little to know pity or mercy. Humans have had a long LONG time to do right by life, by the things that live. Instead they chose a life of hedonism and mindless industry Ecclesiastus 3:19>Surely the fate of human beings is like that of the animals; the same fate awaits them both: As one dies, so dies the other. All have the same breath; humans have no advantage over animals. Everything is meaningless.Many many extant humans need to pass on, and have their body begin the process of becoming oil.
>>215546336He drove the rabbis from the temple with a spear. And even if you’re against Christ or whatever because you’re a fedora type guy, you’re only helping jews out and doing their bidding. So if you hate Christ more than jews, you’re mentally ill.
>>215546280>jews are sodomites >here’s a verse from the Torah(Leviticus) to show why sodomy is evil Utterly brown religion
>>215546132>No rebuttals >I'm le enlightened You're a Jewish puppet is what you are
Ah yes, television and film, the perfect place to discuss religious doctrine.
>>215546420> He drove the rabbis from the temple with a spearSource
>>215546434I don’t care about religion I care about the systematic abuse of children through synagogues, public schools and other state facilities like Boston Children’s Hostpital which offers “trans care” (castration and lobotomies) for actual children. These illegal institutions and acts are literally immune to the law.>>215546462some character in Fallout 3 or maybe Vegas quoting the Bible
>>215546420>the temple Which temple? Why should I care?>with a spearWhat?>>215546420>you’re only helping jews out and doing their bidding. I'm helping them by hating them? Yeah, makes sense>So if you hate Christ more than jewsI hate them equally, I hate him because he is a dirty Jew rat as evil as any other Jew >>215546435Rebuttal to what? You talking Jewish nonsense? The rebuttal is I'm not a Jew so I don't give a shit about Jewish nonsense
>>215544136Because he told them the truth
>>215544136>Foundation myth is about subverting their host nation and using magic to kill every first born son in that nation so that they can migrate to a “promised land” where they proceed to genocide the indigenous inhabitants.How the fuck do Jews not see themselves as evil
>>215546511>Jesus is totally pushing a Jewish narrative. It's Jewish all the way down!>*Gets presented with counter-arguments*>Ugh, I just don't care, it's all Jewish nonsenseYou're an intellectual coward is what you are, and not only that, but one of the biggest stooges for the Jews that you so vehemently hate. That's the joke of it. Without even thinking, you're pushing the exact narratives they want you to push.
>>215546511No you misunderstand. If you’re being genuine, Christ is the White symbol of the golden rule, treat others how you want to be treated, love and charity. jews obviously despise that to their core and they spend and print trillions of dollars to t try to smear Christ so if you really want to stick it to jews, pretend to like Christ. if not you’re literally just a disgusting angry jewish golem doing exactly what they want you to do like a dumb slave, so
>>215544709>Joe Rogan is the Jesus of our ageBased
>>215544136>We actually have to surrender and be happyThe jews did the right thing
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>>215544136He was saying the temple was going to be destroyed.
>>215546714No he was speaking the truth but judaism can only exist with censorship and lies. The truth was affecting their ability to rule so they hated him and let Barabas, known groomer and killer back on the streets. Literally the same thing is happening in modern day; more or less. George Floyd is kind of a Barabas figure.
>>215546746George Floyd is literally a Jesus figure, he was a criminal executed unjustly by the state.
>>215546746What do you mean no? He does. It's literally in the Olivet discourse >Not one stone shall be left upon another
>>215546776I said no because the rabbis didn’t care so much about that specific building as losing their political power…. Jesus was even speaking symbolically there either way.
>>215546774No he was a cuttthroat killer groomer who OD’d but jews demand he be seen as good. All the while shaming Christ just like the old days.
>>215546551What counterargument? Did he not constantly quote Tanakh?>one of the biggest stooges for the Jews that you so vehemently hateYes, hating Jews means I'm doing their bidding but you worshipping one of them is opposing themYou're fucking insane
>>215546831Christ: treat others how you want to be treatedjews: create trans kids and also fuck White peopleyou: KILL CHRIST!!!!!!(you’re mentally ill)
>>215546800The temple was a massive cash cow. Without the temple the priest class was fucked
>>215546831Then explain the Talmud that goes against everything Christ pushed? You can't, because you want to hold onto your Jewish subverted line of thinking like some life raft, when it's a cinder block taking you down with it and drowning you.
>>215546831Jews don't follow Tanakh. They follow Talmud. And that's the problem. If they actually followed Tanakh they would be good.
>>215546919>>215546927What do you think Talmud is?>>215546919>Jewish subverted line of thinkingYeah, Jews subverted me into hating them. Makes sense. They want to be hated and hate to be worshipped, of course >they actually followed Tanakh they would be good.No. They wouldn't, that shit is fucking evil
>>215547615>What do you think Talmud is?It's their reinterpretation of the Tanakh so that they don't have to actually follow it.This is really basic stuff, what are you even doing?
did he really? I sure hope you didn't do it
>>215547716What do you think is good in Tanakh? Everything bad about Jews is there. The baby torturing, the lying and stealing to get ahead, the societal subversion. It is all bad
>>215547947That's all from the Talmud. The Tanakh is very straightforward morality. The subversion and manipulation comes from them twisting and turning to get out of it.
>>215545692You need to be over 18 to post here.
>>215544136He claimed to be the promised Jewish messiah and began fulfilling the messianic prophecies.Another sect of jews that were currently at the top of the jewish power structure didn't want to surrender their power to him. That's it, just typical human bullshit.
>>215544136Jesus taught them that the lord would provide them with everything they need and Jesus taught the people to share.This of course upsets "them" because the people will be spending far more less since they don't need much and can share food with one a other. That's pretty much it really. They don't want people to be independent in the end.
>>215544136What modern Christians don't realize is that Jesus wasn't working in a vacuum. There had been several would be messiahs before him and their movements always ended up in an attempt of rebellion the Romans violently put down. Not only that, he wasn't even unique as a miracle worker, there were so many of them in that there was a proper word for them, "Men of Deeds". So basically what happened is that when John the Baptist, who was supposed to be the "priestly messiah" as opposed to Jesus' "kingly messiah", got killed, Jesus interpreted that as meaning that the end times were happening right now and he had to fulfill the rest of them. When he entered Jerusalem he was doing it in a way that deliberately ticked every box of the "another messiah candidate has come to challenge Rome" list. The Pharisees wanted to stop him to prevent yet another massacre by the Romans, so he had to be killed fast. Sure, there were elements of religious disagreements, but the idea that Jesus was unique with his behavior and preaching during the time and he got killed just because he told people to "be nice" is false.
>>215545137>He also basically says that the covenant they had with god is null and voidHe says the exact opposite of this. The covenant has been FULFILLED, not nullified. You're still cursed if you try to remove even one letter from the law.
>>215546420>And even if you’re against Christ or whatever because you’re a fedora type guyYou have never even read the Bible, sit down.
All you fags have left if seething on /tv/SAD
>>215544136>>215545425>>215549338Yeah, imagine people actively fighting against providing others with free health care because of greed. how silly, haha. totally un-christian
>>215546548Brah that stuff also belongs to the christian foundation myth, the old testament is still canon
>>215549409>The Pharisees wanted to stop him to prevent yet another massacre by the Romans, so he had to be killed fast.The same Pharisees who would then go on to rebel against Rome and get their entire society destroyed, which Jesus specifically warned them against?
>>215549689Only a fully indoctrinated, low IQ born slave with the mind of a child sees the world this way.>If you don't support [totally evil insane left wing project] you're not a real Christian!Never heard that one before. Are you Christian?
>>215545238I know you mean this unironically lol. Just consider that foreign people posting on a political forum command your perception of God. You are basically a weak bitch. All you had to do was read a little, which you already do online all day in little bite sized brainrot bits. It is embarassing from an antisemitic perspective also because you dont even know what jews are or how they came to be, making you the perfect jewish poster boy for villifying antisemitism which is often based on things that actually are or were.
>>215550064>Are you Christian?Yes. And free healthcare isn't evil or insane and doesn't have to be left wing, it works all over the world. You're taken for a ride so people who already have more than enough money can stuff their pockets even more.
Real answer:Jews hate Christ because he represented the loss of their special status as God's Chosen. Christ's coming meant that they had been superseded by all nations (Christians)Jews did not like this. Not. One. Bit.
>>215548054Oh, shit, yeah, you just have no idea what you're talking about.
>>215550908They were already mogged and conquered by the romans during that time
Jesus reminds me of my dad, he said he'd be back too.
>>215544136Because they couldn't shut it down. Only now in the last century they finally subverted things enough so that Christianity became either irrelevant or an empty golem controlled by them.
>>215550986Yeah and that's why they expected a messiah that would btfo their enemies and give them their land back. Instead they got the bad news that God was doing away with them, making them lose their special status in favor of a more universal religion that would bring salvation to everyone.
>>215551120brah christianity is bigger than ever, the majority of africa and latin american countries is christian, and it's increasing in asia too. Jesus is king
>>215551244As I said, irrelevant. And Islam is still the fastest growing religion in third world countries.
>>215551394Everyone is the same in the eyes of God.
>>215551394>monkey religion popular among monkeys
>>215550969No, I said exactly what it is. If I were actually wrong you would have made an argument or point instead of dismissive redditry.
>>215551411There is no indication that is the case.
>>215551436Okay, fine>The baby torturingGenesis 17>the lying and stealing to get ahead,Abram running badger games with his sister/wife. Jacob/Israel stealing from his brother(and also running badger games, or it was Isaac carrying on that tradition, I forget). The Israelites being told to steal as much as they can from the Egyptians before they leave. All the shit Jews are hated is in Talmud because it is in Tanakh. You fucking retard
>>215551436And I ask again: what good can you find in Tanakh? There's a bunch of retarded bullshit, misanthropy, and Jewish nonsense in it but I can't find anything good in it
>>215551461There are several bible passages about it
>>215544136>why would people with religious authority want some upstart taking away that authoritysame shit happened to Mohommad
>>215544136BECAUSE THEY WERE NOT THE REAL PRIESTHOOD, THEY ARE NOT LEVITES OR 'YAHUDIM' (JUDAIAN) they are usurpers and LARPers and if they recognized Jesus as messiah that would mean forefitting their claim to the temple and the priethood and instating him as high priest. This made him an existential threat to the existence of their priviliages as priests and "jews" this is why its so fucking annoying when no one understands this and shitposting atheists go around saying LOL JEWISH DESERT GOD LOL YOU WORSHIP LE JEW HAAHA JEW JEW JEW JEWThey did not even ccall themselves "JEW" its "YAHS" and "YAHU'DIM" the people who invented the word "jew" and call themselves "jews" are from the lineage of temple usurpers who are not related to the hebrews/isrealites/Yahudim but larp like they are and their entire identity revolves around it. And no one points this out, even christians dont even know their bible history and just think the priests/rabbis were mean and spiteful for no real reason so they hates Jesus cus he was nice and stuff. The hasmonean dynasty is not 'jewish' the ashkenazi people are from Yaphet NOT shem. The term "antisemetic" comes from being a descendant of SHEM hence SHEMetic, which they are not.
>>215550871the problem is charity by compulsion is not charity. people should give freely, not be threatened by the state and their police.
>>215551852notice lots of meaningless arguments ITT and no one has pointed any of this out. Because we are all supposed to know this as basic bible history leading to the birth of christ and no one actually studies or cares they just go with the simple narrative handwave "oh they uhhhh wanted a warring messiah!" "oh they were uhhh just super literal about the law and jesus changed the law!" their entire claim to the temple was wrong. Acknowledging Jesus meant acknowledging that. Therefor they had to kill Jesus literally, there is no way to reconcile it, he couold not be who he said or else they were wrong.
>>215544997Right. Im not him so ill tell you something you havent heard before and have no prescirpted response for. In the Hebrew version of matthew Jesus plainly says "I am the Yah" and "I am El" there is literally no possible confusion about it. Only in the translation into Greek is it different due to how they define the words "Yah" and "el" its changed but originally he is literally saying he is God and its indisputable hes saying it. For further backing on the authenticity of Hebrew Matthew look up the countless early church quotes saying it was written in Hebrew first.
>>215551585>All the shit Jews are hated is in Talmud because it is in Tanakh. You fucking retardYou don't know what you're talking about. The Tanakh has clear rules about not stealing, not swearing falsely etc. The Talmud gives them excuses for circumventing those rules. That is what it is. Hundreds of pages of rationalizations. >>215551611Then ten commandments and mosaic laws are good. Any society that actually followed the Tanakh would be moral and good. But that is not what the Jews were. The Jews followed the trivial laws, while coming up with rationalizations for why they didn't have to follow the significant laws. That is the Talmud.
>>215551658There are lots of bible passages talking about people God doesn't like too
>>215551961dont forget the jews believe they have the 'real' secret tradition of Moses transmitted as "the oral torah" and they only say that because they know its unverifiable bullshit.
>>215551958God is immortal though
>>215545137The Romans cared because there was a guy calling himself the king of Judea and gaining followers. The guy was disrupting both political and religious order there, he just happened to be around at the perfect moment and have a bunch of guys who later turned him into god incarnated. Imagine if Giordano Bruno became the messiah of a new branch of Christianity or something just because he said there are a trillion universes and Mary was a whore.
>>215552212>The Romans caredThey really didn't
