Saw the first episode, what did I think of it?
>>215544394woke garbage
If you'll watch low grade kingslop like this you'll suck a dick.
you thought that HBO has completely lost the plot and all that is good in our culture has been subverted, you furthermore thought that you should drink less and exercise more.
>>215544394>THEY TURNED US INTO LAMPSHADES!>Comics are fictional and should be avoided>Reality is scary enough>LAMPSHADES!
Better than the movies already thanks to the stronger pacing and unease of the townIt's commendable that they have had zero clown imagery for the first episodeThe flying baby-bat thing was stupid but you can't really have an IT adaptation without shit like that so whateverThe 2017 remake would have been better as a TV show based on what I've seen
>>215544441fpbp
>>215544394My nigger cunt ex girlfriend just kicked me off of her HBO MAX account, so I can’t watch it now. Fucking bitch.
>>215544441Trump ended woke, troon
>>215544529After finding out the military is trying to locate Pennywise to use against the Russians but have to convince Native Americans who were saving humanity from Pennywise by shaking chicken bones at dirt while chanting to help them, I dipped out hard.Like, the entire concept of adults not being able to register his existence is just gone now. But don't worry, there will be four episodes at the minimum driving home the point "Did you know, racism is evil. More evil than kid eating outer gods."
>>215544394>Watch horror movie>Get lectured about jews againWhy the fuck does this keep on happening??
watch anything from stephen king
>>215544590Also the turtle imagery gives me hope that they are going to do weird King shit with this
>>215544574Its funny that he would ask a jew if he knew about kidnapping kids albeit
>>215544651>>215544635>>215544574>>215544441I can't believe /tv/ saw religious sensationalism in an IT adaptation and assumed it was supposed to be a good thingActually I absolutely can believe that
i couldn't even get through 10 minutes this shit sucks
>>215544621It's time you learned how to torrent anyway.
jokingly asked my friend if this was just a show about racism in clown packaging without realizing that is indeed what it is and now she's mad and thinks i'm racist
>man these kids look weird as hell>... >oh, they were extras
what is "Derry"
>>215544635>"After finding out the military is trying to locate Pennywise to use against the Russians..." schizo level nonsense plot>it's realwhat in the ever loving fuck? why are 99% of hollywood writers media illiterate RETARDS? can we have ONE(1) good horror writer please please please...
Excellent, 10/10, only mentally retarded chuds hated it.
>>215544635>adults not being able to register his existenceHave you read IT by chance?
>>215544940Yeah it's a weird project for them to try and make some culture war thing. Especially spinning the Jewish family using their religion to scare their child as if they are to be rooted for.
>>215544394The worst thing about it was that the horror scenes had 0 impact and were laughable. It genuinely felt like scooby doo.The second worst thing was that the rest of the show felt like it was trying to imitate stranger things, and failing. The desperate attempts to get the audience to relate to these annoying kids... The whole thing was just boring.Overall, I'd say it was formulaic, pseudo-horror slop for the kids halloween market.
>>215544953I have read IT seven times. Adults do notice yes, so this Anon was wrong in that way. But they also are immediately under IT's kind of "mindfog" because they are so out of touch from their inner child. It's laughable the army would understand IT's existence without IT obfuscating it from their mind (when IT can do so on the whole fucking town).
>>215544992Id say that's likely because Stranger Things is just a ripoff of IT and Stand By Me
>>215544953Yes. Adults do not register Pennywise unless he wants them too. The Losers can register him because they got hit with deadlights as kids.
>>215544394Kamala core
>>215544590>It's commendable that they have had zero clown imagery for the first episodeSeems like an arbitrary thing to praise. Why is this commendable?
>>215544635>After finding out the military is trying to locate Pennywise to use against the Russians but have to convince Native Americans who were saving humanity from Pennywise by shaking chicken bones at dirt while chanting to help themAm I retarded? When did this happen?
>>215545071Because of the painful lack of subtlety in every other IT adaptation. Not doing the "spooky clowns scare me" off the rip already gives the series more artistic merit than the movies it's based on when it could have been so easy
>>215545071because it's a cheap gimmick, kinda like reducing Lovecraftian horror to just a giant squid named Cthulhu.
>>215545071>>215545113Even Alien Earth didn't have the restraint to not be showing xenomorphs within the first hour
>>215545045she*>>215545015the point is that, as far as tv shows go, stranger things actually did the 'kid storyline' thing to a decent standard. It chapter 1 also did a good job. Episode 1 of welcome to derry was boring slop, I don't think I'd even call it horror, and it certainly doesn't do the book justice. It is imitating stranger things (poorly) far more than it is drawing upon the source material. Of course there is the dumbass turtle reference so the 'fans' can pull a basedface during that scene. But overall it's just pure slop, I don't see how anyone could've enjoyed that episode.
>>215545106it's from some of the reviewers who have seen the whole season. Yes, it is retarded beyond belief but it's true.
>>215545071Because Skarsgard isn't scary as Pennywise? I do like how he can independently manipulate his eyes though. It lead to this gem where one of the actors asked how they were pulling off the effect.>Oh! You mean this?>*Makes eyes go all retarded*The design, mannerisms, and his voice are just trying hard to be scary instead of just being a clown, that looks and sounds like a clown, that happens to be doing creepy shit.
>>215545139>Episode 1 of welcome to derry was boringI think I'm seeing the issue. You are Hollywoodbrained.
>>215545154imagine shilling for this bottom-of-the-barrel, braindead, scooby doo slop
>>215544621you're not missing anything.
>>215545128>the restraint to not be showing xenomorphs within the first hourwithin the first minutes even. or did you forget the amazing moonwalking xeno in the spaceship? probably the most retarded scene in the whole Alien franchise.
>>215545139Pennywise offed a kike who was scared by a lampshade made of screaming Jew faces, so /pol/ thinks it's comedy gold.
>>215545179Yeah man maybe if it was more exciting and had more spooky scary clowns>>215545193Ah yup I forgot about that scene.
>>215545154>You are Hollywoodbrained.as if this show was not fully written by Hollywoodbrained retards.
>>215545015they're just stuck in a regurgitation loop.
>>215545200I don't really care about the jews, I just want good horror media :<
>>215545128>>215545121>>215545113Okay I guess I don't agree then. Teasing the clown isn't reducing the artistic merit nor is it any indication of quality. I don't see how clown imagery would be a bad thing. Again, just seems arbitrary and a personal gripe that doesn't translate to how well the show is or is going to be.
>>215545148>*Makes eyes go all retarded*exactlyI didn't find it creepy. He looked dopey through that whole thing. Like he was mentally challenged.
>>215545139cute doggo
Steve fucks up again.
>>215545273he is just an out of touch boomer too old to be on social media. just like grannies and grandpas getting caught by whatever fake news or AI slop they see on facebook
>>215544658lmao that was the first thought that went through my head as well>oy vey, your ancestors kidnap a few goy kids and drain their blood for occult rituals and suddenly everyone wants to look in your basement when a goy kid goes missing
So I don't get it, were the family in the car fabrications of Pennywise or were they people who had been possessed by Pennywise to bear his batbaby
>>215545312all the massive amounts of coke don't help.
>>215544441 Whites attacking blacks/goblins IS a good thing tho. Don't forget the core truth just because gay retards want to make other gay retards look bad.
>>215545141I don't think it's retarded beyond belief. That's the level of wacky I expect in a Stephen King adaptation. Sorry you can't recognize kino when you see it.
>>215544633this was shot and written during biden admin.
>>215545426
Lilly is CUTE and I'm glad she didn't dieBut I'm just not reflecting that since they killed off all the white kids the kid cast is going to be>Lilly>spunky negress from the cinema>Major Nigger's nigger kidsthat's not a good racial ratio for me personally
>>215545273Trump is retarded, yes. Not relevant to this discussion though.
>>215545348It's just Pennywise playing with his meal. I don't think they were real people being possessed.
>>215544394I turned it off when the Jewish chanting started. Sorry, I just can't stomach their representation in every fucking hollywood shlock out there. Might be something to do with the genocide in Gaza, and it's not like I hate every jew out there now, but whatever I just refuse to watch their propaganda anymore.
>>215545551Lay off the drugs, Stephen. You're misreading shit again.
>>215545616Go to bed, Donald.
>>215544394will this show finally adapt the underage gangbang sequence from the book?
>>215545535Girl goes to bathroom only to have her hole fingered bloody.Making a white baby in a white family is a terrifying concept.Some SS knock offs just randomly beat the dog shit out of military personnel and instead of calling out an alarm the characters talk about hair.I.....I just want to see kids ripped apart by an unstoppable clown monster that gets away with it all.
>>215545633It's a prequel to the story with the gangbang. The best you're going to get is a few blowjobs, maybe some hand stuff.
>>215545633Takes place before that. Probably gonna have lesbian interracial bullshit though.
>>215545625(you) farmers are so pathetic
>>215545348A little bit of both. Normal people cursed from Derry used as a pennywise toy. The line is always intentionally thin though.
I don´t suppose anyone has this infamous lampshade webm
>>215545273He seems easily duped. Somebody send him a link to an AI video of Trump getting fucked by a nigger or something.
>>215545732It's not actually as silly as /tv/ wants you to believe so I assume nobody cared enough to make one yet. It's pretty much just like any other IT scene
>>215545741It's got to be something he can rage over. Like Trump eating an immigrant child.
>>215545732>>215545772pics of it are online. does it do anything?
>>215545865It tries talking to the kid, falls off the table, and rolls toward him
>>215545865that shit was actually was less silly and scarier than you could expect from such a retarded notion. unlike the fucking mongo mutant bat baby who was just cringe
>>215545941way* not second was
so no lampshade webm, no batbaby webm, in fact no webm's at all ? Looks like you unfuckable losers have some work to do, chop chop.
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>>215545732dunno why people are sperging about the lamp boogeyman when some of IT's form are downright retarded like the flying vampire clams from the Hockstetter's fridge... dont even get me started on how Beverly was supposed to die from some blood splurging out of her bathroom. sometimes IT just does silly shit for scary giggles
>>215544574It was interesting seeing the soft disclosure that the Holocaust is fake and that jews make things up to get their way. The lampshades thing has been completely obliterated since the 70's and really helps to raise awareness that the entire narrative is suspect considering they've been caught lying about multiple aspects of it before.
>>215545273He's like 80 ans has lived in a cabin in the woods for his entire life, leave him alone. Also, stop looking to celebrities for guidance.
>>215545348I don't think even the writers know the answer to that question.
>>215545348I think since they appeared in the film with Matty that they were a real family that had fallen foul of Pennywise
>>215546032Pennywise feeds on fear, making the kids scared shitless from illusions is part of the hunt
>>215545642> the characters talk about hair.Did they really do the muh black people hair special thing?I decided never to watch a new piece of Hollywood slop somewhere around 2023 and there's literally never been a single thing that's made me regret it. All of the good movies are already made and there's more of them then could ever be seen.
Apologize and admit the 1990 TV show was best.
>>215546448it was still shit compared to the books. better than the new movies but that's a low bar to clear. the only thing good from Muschietti's shit is putting the first part in the 80's instead of the 50's because that era was way too "camp horror" to be impactful nowadays.
>>215546508>putting the first part in the 80'sThey only did that to please the basedlennials that were eating up the 80's nostalgia at that time.
It's Londonderry.Do you say "Kyiv" and "Turkiye" too?
>>215546547>They only did that to please the basedlennialsyou mean the target audience? because nobody should care about pleasing the basedboomers like King did, being a boomer himself.
>>215546616>you mean the target audience?yes ?
>>215546508The kid actors were pretty good. Smart idea to make it a mini series and do all the shooting in one go.Child actors age way too fast to play in streaming shows. A 15 year old can't play a 12 year old.
>>215544394We need to be better clown monsters
>>215546638then we agree. the jump wasnt even that far-fetched: some cover art for the novels was marketed in 80's tones instead of the 50's when it came out.
>>215546654>Smart idea to make it a mini seriesit was. and it still should be the only choice of making an actual good adaptation of the books: 10 or 12 episodes mini-series HBO style.
>>215546508The book sucked. It was just the usual Stephen King 50's kids, except this time, they meet Freddy Krueger
>>215546722>that cover artWell, I don´t know what was going on in France at that point, but it looks like they were trying to market it as goosebumps style books.
>>215546762why the fuck are you in this thread tardo?
>>215546313Nobody is looking to King for guidance.and yes, he's a super millionaire who insists on putting his stupid opinions out there, hoping to influence people. Fuck his dumb ass.
>>215544394we have never seen Pennywise make a kill in non clown formthey fucked up
>>215546771it worked because I read IT at 8was quite suprised by some of the content to say the least kek
>>215546773Geesh, Stephen, calm the fuck down.
>>215546722that last cover is kind of a spoiler, isn't it?
>>215546313why would you think that? sure he has homes in maine but you really think he's not constsntly going to cocaine parties in ny and la?
>>215546213 Lampshades come from Nazi bitch of Buchenwald, she had lampshades made of human skin.
>>215546771>trying to market it as goosebumps style booksGoosebumps covers were nowhere as gnarly at the time.
So did jew, girl 2 and the other kid actually die?
>>215546877Oh my goodness. How awful.
>>215544394Lame ripoff of “Stranger Things” with FAR less interesting kids and story. Turned it off halfway thru the first ep cuz it was so frigging uninteresting.
So Dick Halloran was in the military and fought against a child killing alien that can manipulate space and time and yet when he goes to the Overlook he just dismisses the supernatural threat as ghosts that can't harm you and allows Danny and his family to be in danger?
>>215547430Wait, this is supposed to be the same guy from The Shining?for fucks sake.
>>215544574Given that these things were probably written 1-2 years ago it’s probably just October 7 bullshit, just like the Jew/nazi stuff in the Gein show.
>>215544574>I'm a lampshade! What do you think about that? I turned myself into a lampshade! W-w-what are you just staring at me for, bro, I turned myself into a lampshade, Morty.
>They needed six million lampshades for the war effort! This actually happened!
>>215546790illiterate tourist zoomer spotted.Most of Its kills are in non-clown forms in the book.
>>215546762I think the book is great but to each his own. If a competent director and team was in charge, it could be adapted to a tv series of about 20 one hour long episodes and it could be amazing. Alas, we are stuck with mostly shit films and series that completely do not understand the horror, dread and atmosphere of the book.
>>215547430This guy's called Hanlon. Halloran is the guy from the theater I think.
>>215546817in a way but you wouldnt get any of it before finishing the book so I suppose it's not so important.
>>215547645There is no way there are that many magical negros.
>>215547430looks like the writing team from The Witcher decided to have a go at Stephen's King books. which they promptly didnt read ofc
>>215547430His shine wasn’t powerful enough to give the ghosts the ability to effect corporeal beings
>>215547722But he still would have know the potential, especially after meeting Danny and experiencing Danny's shine. In the book and the movie he believes as long as Danny stays out of certain areas he'll be fine.
>>215547790bro, it's not that deep: the writers of this shit show are retards.
>>215544394(SH) “IT: Welcome to Derry”(ere)Was the choice of Derry intentional for the coprophilia joke?
>>215544788sorry, meant Londonderry
So the clown made her fart, right?
>>215546394>Did they really do the muh black people hair special thing?No, not even sure what you're referencing here. >I decided never to watch a new piece of Hollywood slopOh so you haven't even watched the show you felt the need to come into a discussion thread about and ask retarded questions. Fuck off.
>>215547430What's this guys problem anyway? Is he secretly Vietnamese?
I thought it was alright, but the interrogation scene was silly. How did 3 men sneak onto a military base, assault two officers very loudly and then successfully escape?
Nothing special about itThe theater baby CGI was fucking awful and retarded>buttt hurrrr durrr keeedz and nostalgia and diversity peopleand somehow it instantly shoots up to an 8 star IMDB rating. Ya fucking right........
>“We did two movies already. One thing that we didn’t want was to — given that we’re using the same tone and the style as the movies — is get people too familiar [with the story mechanics]. We really wanted to create a subversion to get people excited. It has to do also with raising the volume a little in terms of intensity and spectacle.”>Andy Muschietti on the ending of the first episodeKilling off the kids was good in terms of story mechanics but the clusterfucks they try to pass off as scary are too much. They need to tone shit that down--Pennywise shaking his head back and forth at 5x speed and running toward the camera while making Three Stooges sounds is dumb as is the CG demon baby. There was no reason for the baby to come back at the end of the episode either--it would honestly have been a lot better if it were just a B movie monster the kids would have been familiar with.
>>215548718>We really wanted to create a subversionI want to hit these brain dead retards in the head with a tack hammer until they develop some common sense.
>>215544441/Thread
>>215544655She looks like a guy in this scene, she probably queefed on him, ew.
I liked that the kids thought that it was really Matty trying to get a hold of them. If we didn't know as an audience that Pennywise was most likely just messing with them, it would have been a believable concept in a supernatural show like this. Dead or kidnapped wanting to be saved and using some magic shit to reconnect with his friends.
>>215548797Subversion is nice. Stop acting like you only started watching media 10 years ago.
I did not expect them to kill the main cast in first episode, or is that only because its a "pilot"
Man this was the dumbest shit I've seen in a long time. Why even take the time to introduce us to our two main characters just to kill them off like "Haha fooled you! They weren't main characters at all" Yeah my expectations were subverted alright, but not in a good way.
>>215549084Oh please. There's actual subversion and then there's this cheap pulling the rug-trick just for the sake of it.
>>215546032I thought the flying bloodsucking clams was an ass pull by Pennywise because that particular kid was a literal sociopath that was incapable of experiencing fear. Seem to recall Pennywise just being kinda blurry where it was just confused because the kid was giving him absolutely nothing to latch on to make him afraid at all so he just said "fuck it. Clams, I guess" and he drained the kid like a juice box. It's worth noting because it solidifies the concept that Pennywise does NOT feed off the fear of others for sustence.
>>215546373He doesn't feed on fear. He just likes the flavor of meat scared shitless. The more steeped in fear it is, the better it tastes.
>>215546394No, it was an Italian guy wondering if his hair still looked okay.
>>215546877And then the items were tested to verify if they were made from human skin and it turns out that they were not.
amazing first episode except for the part where the masked man attack the pilot. Like when the fight ends the pilots just stay in the room, not trying to alert no one when they were attacked in a military complex and nigger pilot was asked for military secrets. Nothing happened, just a fucking quip
>>215544394Typical HBGoy zogslop.
>>215545192He's probably missing that pussy amirite fellas?
>>215549354Explain the difference then for me, and why this show falls under pulling the rug and not subversion. And also "pulling the rug" is not just another usage for subversion, one isn't inherently more negative.
>>215549398yeah Patrick's clams are a special case because it was actually disgust from a previous experience with leeches and not exactly terror. Pennywise was blurry after the clams attack tho, when it brought an inconscious Patrick to the sewers.but some other forms are equally retarded like the giant fucking Paul Bunyan statue
>>215549084>Subversion is nice.
>>215549398they werent clams, hochstetter was deathly afraid of leeches from a prior experience with them so pennywise made him see flying leeches to fuck with him.i thought it was actually a pretty scary idea.
CGIslop and "second screen" content for the FNAF generation.
>>215548710I will forever wonder why this dog did this.
The entire town is CGI slop. Ruins the ambience. The main girl is cute, though.
>>215548797Subversion is fine when you're on a path that's already well tread. It's the clusterfuck "scares" that suck (i.e. "intensity and spectacle"). Just because something is fast and loud doesn't make it intense and spectacle can be a bad thing.
>>215549398>It's worth noting because it solidifies the concept that Pennywise does NOT feed off the fear of others for sustence.He kind of does. It feeds off of psychic energy for his power and flesh for It's physical form. The reason he has a lower power level fighting the Losers is their connection to one another makes them stronger and they make one another believe they can beat It.
>>215548718The baby is a spawn of It that it is trying to raise by itself by setting it up easy kills because it's from an egg of It that was exposed to nuclear radiation. Think of it. Baby being born, radio talking about mutations, Pennywise luring the kids to the theater and locking them in, the boy holding the bundle in the screen like it's a baby before releasing it on the kids. Clearly a child of It. Intentionally or unintentionally created the military I'm not sure, but I'm going to guess intentional in an effort to weaponize It.
>>215544635Holy sneed, that sounds retarded. It this actually where the story went?
>weekly release schedule
>>215550178I figured they'd bring in the fact It laid eggs because that was left out of the movies and it would give the kids an opportunity for a win but the demon baby shit is lame.
>>215544651Never forget the 60 borillion, anon
>>215547430ew, gross!
>>215550428It really is a poor design. Whatever the reason behind why it looks like that probably doesn't excuse it. And yeah, they did leave that part out in Part 2. My guess because they are somehow destroyed in this season or another. But does the baby being anything other than a child of It make sense?
>>215550361yeah, but it's probably a crossover with a bunch of other Stephen King stuff like The Shop and Project Arrowhead. like how almost every other book that even partially takes place in Derry references It. the 13 pillars of the cage are probably a reference to Maerlyn's Rainbow from The Dark Tower. maybe Randall Flagg will show up.
>>215544635akoocheemoya we are far from the kino adaptations of our ancestors
>>215545011>I have read IT seven times.BASED. I must have read it four times in my language and one in English. Honestly one of my favourite books, and not for the sewer sex scene.
>>215547706I thought this is from the books.
>>215544635What the fuck. They simply had to make up some spooky shenanigans in the time period where IT is awake and add muh raycism as it is the style of today. They didn't need to rape the story so much.
>>215546213Sounds like a real soaper thing to do
The constant greenscreeing for almost every set is very distracting. I assume zoomers either don't notice or are watching on their phones so can't see it.
>the military using pennywiseAnyone have the season 1 script leak?
What's with all the people passing off headcanon as if it were lore and making up rules ITTs? The basics are:>It is an eldritch horror that takes on various forms (Pennywise the clown being the one It favors)...it is a glamour>It isn't restricted to hunting children but chooses to do so for intentionally ambiguous reasons>certain people have a preternatural ability to sense it, this is linked to youth and likely a reason why it attacks kids>It's evil nature infests the town and this brings out the worst in people (e.g. willful ignorance and avoidance)>Its powers are based on psychic energy and it can warp/corrupt minds (usually by taking advantage of existing evil, which makes a given mind susceptible, and magnifying it) >It can also read minds to a certain degree (besides evil it can sense trauma/fear and will manifest a form related to these to scare/intimidate victims/targets)>Its hubris is that it is cocky, it sees itself as an eternal among lesser beings, but is still defensive to an extent>It is susceptible to willful disregard of it's psychic powers, this disarms it to a degree, but can still physically injure regardless>believing you can harm it combined with physical attack is enough to inflict blows (imbuing objects with a belief in their power inflicts harm on it) >social bonds make adversaries of it more powerful It has no restriction in terms of where it can manifest its powers. There are no restrictions when it comes to the age of its victims. Derry is a particularly bad place because it has always been there and has always infested the land upon which the town was built (it is corruption).
>>215547430Aliens are different from ghosts mam.
>>215550136Not quite when you take into consideration the book but for the films it's a fine interpretation to have.
>>215553229This single shot has more worth than the entirety of Musky's output
I kinda liked the alien nerd kid and he’s gone. Does that mean we stuck with the boohoo my dad is dead 3/10 girl and the black girl rest of the season?
>>215553229>>It isn't restricted to hunting children but chooses to do so for intentionally ambiguous reasonsIsn't that because kids have more tasty fears because of their limitless imagination? While adults mostly have grounded fears related to boring things like money, work, social status etc.
>>215554012Forgot pic
It's pretty bad that I was far more engaged with the military subplot than everything to do with the kids/horror garbage.Though the guys just running out at the end and nobody pursuing them was dumb as fuck.
>>215554004>I kinda liked the alien nerd kidThey just copy-pasted this kid from the movie
>>215554087Yeah i noticed it. He was my fave too.
>>215554087I mean all the kids were intentionally homages to the original movie which is why we were supposed to be shocked when they all got fucked up at the end of the episode.
>>215553711>Not quite when you take into consideration the bookIt's the same in both the book and the film versions. Fear "flavors the meat" for his physical form but he needs sustenance in the form of negative psychic energy for his powers to be effective. It isn't a psychic vampire that needs to syphon life force in order to live, its physical form feeds on flesh, but without suitable levels of negative psychic energy, which it puts in effort to generate, its powers are lessened. That's why the social bond between the Losers weakens it and it tries to pick them off one by one. There's also mojo beyond the Losers themselves, they said they feel like they were being directed and things were happening for a reason, that's left ambiguous and is likely linked to the turtle.
>>215554012That's one level to it. The other level is that it's more evil to harm children, there's a greater corruption in it, and its maliciousness is better fed by preying on them. The physical form stuff is pretty overt relative to the eldritch horror aspects of it. For the latter the more ambiguous you leave it the more engaging, and potentially terrifying, it is for the audience. I think you could make an argument that the physical manifestation vs the eldritch nature of it works well before the former is based on fear while the latter is terror. I recall reading something from King where he addresses the fear v. terror distinction in the horror genre.
So how long until Pennywise actually shows up?
>>215544590>It's commendable that they have had zero clown imagery for the first episodeAfter Matty appears on the movie screen, when he buries his face into the baby and then lifts it he has clown make up on.Was it brave of them to show kids getting brutally ripped apart? I think it's refreshing.
>>215554281Who?
>>215554294I think showing a vagina giving birth on screen was actually pretty edgy for HBO.It was brief but clearly visible.Dunno if I've ever seen that happen on TV before outside of medical documentaries.
>>215554294>I think it's refreshing.King is known for two things: Magical Negros and children being raped/murdered.
>>215554281It's fucked that they figured out less is more with showing Pennywise but not with the scares.
>>215544394honestly you stopped reading goosebumps books in middle school and never looked back. when the clothes don't fit, you don't have to wear the anymore.
>>215554281Wouldn't surprise me if he was out of it for the entire season outside of brief glimpses with his return being a big deal in the penultimate episode.
>>215554004>white girl (nerd)>black girl >white girl (ptsd)>black boyI think thats the cast excluding the black pilot
>>215554281Pretty sure they gonna show him at episode 2 since it will be released on halloween.
You guys are more mad about the 2 min jew scene than the fact that the entire is cast is sassy black people lmao
>>215544394I could make my whole post about race or bad acting like half of 4chins but nah what bored me was the horror reduced to uninspired cgi of things pouncing on you. Remember the wacky screamers from the old internet? That was this entire hot steaming garbage.And most of it was from the boss baby who looked like if he took the mrna vaccine.
>>215554424I like the black army guythe girl can fuc koff tho
>>215554424>the 2 min jew scenePractically all of the kids are jews.
>>215544772Everyone's racist anon, it's okay.
I didn't realize both of the guys died in the theater until I was reading threads after the episode. They look so similar and it was so fast.
Pretty terrible acting (or writing), sets don't really feel like the 60s, bad CGI horror and fairly pointless project to begin with. How is this story supposed to end when we already know how It meets its end eventually?
>>215554517>How is this story supposed to endBlack kid victorious. Everyone else mind wiped.
>>215554517It's basically just to kill time.I don't think anyone is expecting a great show out of it.
>>215554597So they want the From audience then
>>215554632No one wants the From audience.
>>215554632Hey now.Lots of answers are coming next season.
>>215554294I agree. I respect the relentlessness of the graphic imagery.
>>215554665>>215554750>give me instant gratification >don't make me think You guys are the reason television is entertainment for low IQ plebs.
>>215555240Yes From is a very high IQ show and isn't total slop.And I say this as a From fan
>>215544394is stephen king the shakespeare of the movie and tv era?
>>215545273is it true that he has ghost writers writing his books?how is it possible for such a dumb cunt getting published?
>>215554319are they brothers or lovers?
>>215555240>Mystery box slop watchers actually believe they are high IQlol
>>215554452>>Stephen King isn't Jewish. Nevertheless, the bestselling author's characters and literary tastes have some surprising Jewish resonances.
>>215545581You are brown
>>215544394Why would I watch this when the movie was perfectly fine for a new modern adaptation? Like someone pitch this to me cause I don't get it
>>215555304>>215555486I believe your complaining that you aren't directly told what to think about everything while crying over the fact your won't get instant gratification indicates you're low IQ.
>>215555558You're brown. :)
>>215544394>2025>Le white people bad black people good movieIs this shit just gonna happen forever no matter what else is going on in the world? tiresome indeed!
>>215555579Nope and the fact you couldn't think up an original insult is further evidence that you're low IQ.
oh wait its not a movie it's a tv series? that's somehow even fucking worse
>>215555521uh, Derry a boring town with a dark history and no racism to really speak of is now a full on racist town that hates the brave good black people that moved there. Pennywise is now a pro-black antihero, and most of his kills involve saving black kids from evil white kids, some as young as like 8 years old. Also the soviets and us government want pennywise to use as a weapon. its what you'd expect basically
>>215555680>no racism to really speak ofThe Black Spot was burned down and Bowers calls Mike a nigger a bunch of times in the book/TV miniseries.
>>215544574IDK why this bothered you, I interpreted it as typical schizo jewish dad with his fake holocaust stories, and then the entity playing off of the horror the idea of a Jew lampshade made in the kid's mind. Nothing about the scene is making a straightforward claim about lampshades in the holocaust. If the dad told him there's a golem waiting to murder him that's what he'd have seen.
>>215555713>The Black Spot was burned downThis hasn't happened yet in this adapation.
>>215555680>is now a full on racist town that hates the brave good black people that moved there. Pennywise is now a pro-black antihero, and most of his kills involve saving black kids from evil white kids, some as young as like 8 years old. Also the soviets and us government want pennywise to use as a weaponTHIS SOUNDS UNWATCHABLE WTF AM I READING
>>215554187Well, in the book IT is actually quite capable of killing off the kids willy nilly. Infact it's about to do that when it's cockblocked by the turtle. The turtle is what allowed the loser's club to fight back, not just their bond. Their bond helped sure, but it alongside the ritual of chud and the turtle is what allowed them to defeat IT..... temporarily. As far as the sustenance thing....also not quite true. IT is actually an eldritch being who has existed for an unfathomably long period of time. It's actually explained in the book that IT can survive however it pleases, but it just likes the taste of kids. These misconceptions are why people think Freddy Krueger beats IT when that's quite far removed from the truth. Infact the movies should just lean into whole cosmic horror angle. So far they just emphasize too much of his clown form and body horror while making him a jobber. And just as a side note>For his powers to be effective This may sound like powerscaling wank, but IT does explain in a monologue that he can basically become an asteroid and just kill everyone if he wants. There is no actual limit to his power besides that which IT imposes on itself like the weakness of each form it takes (werewolf = silver bullet and so on). Yeah the book is full of stuff like this.
So were the gas mask guys (((White supremacists))) who got a makarov somehow or Russian?
>>215555905>IT does explain in a monologue that he can basically become an asteroidoh yes, the creature who's entire persona is lying to kids to manipulate them is a credible source of information on itself.
>>215555955>New arrival on base>Shown a "Top secret" facility from outside>Is interviewed by brass about his future>gets TESTED with a FAKE attack to see if he'll buckle under pressureGee whiz.
>>215555955I'm like 90% sure it's his boss trying to see if he's trustworthy so they can bring him in on whatever secret supernatural shenanigans they're going to be working on.They all flee the second the other guy gets in the room despite having a gun and nobody bothers to pursue them.
>>215555956Well, it's in a self monologue written by King. It's one of the few times we actually see IT think. He has no reason to lie to himself. It makes no sense for him to lie to himself when he doesn't know we're reading (some king characters literally do this though, looking at the last stand). The kids aren't even nearby.
>>215556061IT™s victims are down there with it "flooooating" so it's not beyond the realm of possibility it is tormenting them and continuing to feed off them even after death.
>>evil white man disrespecting the epic cool black man>>"they used our skin to make lampshades">>"your grandparents "survived" Buchenwald yea ima pass
>>215556125That is true, but the passage was written in italics so it was definitely a self thinking passage. I don't even think IT ever does much with his past victims besides use them to torment his future ones.
>>215555801So? It's evidence of racism in the source material, dumbass. Also, this is a prequel so it has already happened as far as the story is concerned.
>>215556170>Also, this is a prequel so it has already happened as far as the story is concerned.It. Has. Not. Happened. Yet. In. This. Adapation.
LAMPSHADES
>>215544441Don't know but it's definitely fucking garbage. Kids couldn't act worth shit, the CGI bat mutant looked like shit, a lot of the horror scenes had shit off about them (why was the family in the beginning screaming in shock and horror when the mom gave birth to the baby mutant bat when they're just part of It's Illusion). Also what was the deal with the whole airforce base shit and the presumably Soviet spies trying to get the schematics of the B-52 from Hanlon? What does that have to do with anything? Is It colluding with the Russians to steal the schematics for a B-52 so he can shapeshift into one so he can carpet bomb Derry with balloons or is it just going to be some gay subplot that has fuck all to do with anything.
>>215556704>Also what was the deal with the whole airforce base shitoh sweet summer child.
>>215555680>Derry a boring town with a dark history and no racism to really speak of is now a full on racist town that hates the brave good black peopleNigger, did you even read the book? If so, did you forget the Black Spot? Did you forget about Henry and Butch Bower's deep seated hatred towards Mike and his family? Even in the original book, there was a lot of racial shit going on in Derry.
>>215556825Stephen King is notorious for including racial shit in his novels. He even has the shining end with the black cook stealing the white dude's wife.
>>215556876>He even has the shining end with the black cook stealing the white dude's wife.No he didn't.
>>215556704>Also what was the deal with the whole airforce base shit and the presumably Soviet spiesthey want this series to be their stranger things
>>215554012>Isn't that because kids have more tasty fears because of their limitless imagination? While adults mostly have grounded fears related to boring things like money, work, social status etc.Yes, that's more or less explicitly stated in the novel. Instead of targeting adults directly, It casts a sort of spell over Derry as a town that prevents most (adult) people from looking into or caring about what is happening*, which explains why no one outside the town is aware of the fact that, even in "off" years, Derry has a child murder/disappearance rate that would be extremely alarming national news. *there are mentions of people who end up fleeing the town regularly, but it's more out of a general feeling of fear/unease than any specific knowledge
>>215555450both
>>215556200>It. Has. Not. Happened. Yet. In. This. AdapationYes it has because this is a prequel, retard. Again, even if you want to be a pedantic retard over that it's still evidence that racism is a theme in the materia.
>>215557438This is the third time I have to explicitly tell you the Black Spot burning down will happen in this show but has not happened yet. The Black Spot and Mike's race were sub-sub-sub plots in the book, race is a CENTRAL THEME in this series.
>>215556895>The book's epilogue is set during the next summer. Hallorann, who has taken a chef's job at a resort in Maine, comforts Danny over the loss of his father as Wendy recuperates from the injuries Jack inflicted on her.I read the book. They're fucking by the end.
>>215557506It's a prequel you complete and total retard. This means that all events have already happened in the narrative BUT another story is being told within it. Fuck you're stupid. Again: THIS DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THE POINT OF CONTENTION WAS RACISM BEING DEPICTED IN THE STORY. ANIMOSITY TOWARD THE BLACK SPOT, EVIL WITHIN THE TOWN, AND RACISM TOWARDS MIKE, WHICH WE HAVE SEEN, MEANS RACISM IS ALREADY A THEME IN THE SHOW AND EXISTS WITHIN THE SOURCE MATERIAL.Fuck you're a retard.
>>215557617>>215557506Have sex
>>215544394They made you think they had a proto-Loser's Club and they kill all of the children but one. That surprised me. Just because they did that, I'm watching episode 2.
>>215557707>Just because they did that, I'm watching episode 2.Where you'll be introduced to an even more DEI loser's club.
>Derry a boring town with a dark history and no racism to really speak of (>>215555680)That's incorrect as 1) The Black Spot was burned down by white supremacists and, 2) Mike Hanlan is called a nigger in the original miniseries/book and Bowers's actions toward him are racially motivated. >HURR DUR BLACK SPOT HASN'T HAPPENEDSo? Your claim was that Derry is boring and not racist, meaning you're wrong, and we already know about the Black Spot because we're watching a prequel. (You're also ignoring Mike's treatment). >HURR DUR IT HASN'T HAPPENED THOUGHI could bring up it happened in 1930 in the book (i.e. one cycle before the Loser's Club in the book/miniseries) but your claim was that there's no racism in the book. This is wrong and your nonsensical shift of the goalposts, "IT NOT HAPPAN YET THO", is dumb because 1) it has been proven racism is a theme in the material and, 2) we are watching a prequel. I'll now add that we would expect it to be even more prominent as we're watching the part of the narrative where the crescendo of the the cycle is the burning of The Black Spot.>HURR DURR AS LONG AS I IGNORE WHAT YOU WROTE I CAN PRETEND I WASN'T WRONGI've responded to what you wrote and you don't have any arguments. You're retarded. >>215557680Maybe later. Me and my gf are watching baseball.
>>215555801If they're introducing Mike's dad and Dick Halloran then it's going to happen in one way or another, otherwise they fucked it up spectacularly
>>215557603No you didn't, you just copied and pasted part of the Wikipedia page you disingenuous cock addict, presumably because you're obsessed with god damn black dicks. The ending doesn't say anything about Wendy and Dick fucking and not even the sequel Doctor Sleep mentions anything about them fucking.
>>215544635Listen to yourself, you sound demented.
>>215558096I know he's shit posting but the start of the season has been so shit I could legitimately see that being a twist. It's probably going to turn out that the Air Force is planning on capturing It and loading it onto a special B-52 armed with an experimental weapon that they can hook It up to that'll allow them to project It's dead lights all over Russia.
>>215558096I wish I was pulling that out of my ass, anon. I really do.It was the perfect opportunity to set up a simple anthology style miniseries to showcase how fucked up It is as a creature with a background event stringing everything together, but instead, it's is just the most unhinged, retarded shit ever with Pennywise playing a supporting role.
is the average /tv/ anon fucking illiterate?
>>215557979Cope. I read the book from front to end, and it's obviously implied that the black dude would be taking in as the temp dad atleast. I"m not going to download the PDF and spoon-feed you.>B-butStephen King is a leftwing cuckold who literally had a child orgy DESCRIBED IN DEPTH in one of his books. Is race mixing somehow worse to you than that?
>>215558466Your shit's just pure speculation.That said, the direction they're taking with the show is retarded. It's like they're trying to build up some big mystery surrounding It but that ship's already long since been solved so for anyone who's read the books, seen the movies, or watched the miniseries, it just kind of feels like a retread. We already know It predates the universe, we know that It came from outside the Universe, we know that It resides under Derry's sewers, there's no big mystery left to solve about It so more than anything watching people bumble fuck their way around trying to find answers to shit we already know is more annoying than anything else, especially when it involves shit we already know means fuck all like the kid singing a song from some musical in the drain.Honestly, I think they'd have been better off doing something more akin to an anthology, like have episode cover the entries from Mike's journal that elaborate on fucked up events in Derry's history like the disappearing of the original founders, the slaughter of the fugitives passing through town, or that one dude butchering a bunch of people at a bar with an axe.
>>215558708NTA. I know you haven't read The Shinning because of you had you would have brought up the random multi-page digression about how King's self-insert, Jack, wrote a play about a child rapist and how out of all his characters he identifies with him the most.
>>215558466Ok, schizo.
>>215558708>I"m not going to download the PDF and spoon-feed you.You don't need to. I got a copy of the book and the audio book. That's how I know you're full of shit. The epilogue makes it pretty clear Danny and Wendy aren't sticking around with Dick. They crash at a cabin near the new restaurant in New England Dick started working at while Wendy recovers from her injury with plans to move to Maryland while Dick's staying in New England (and in the beginning of Dr. Sleep Wendy and Danny ultimately moved to Florida). Also in the epilogue Wendy's not in any condition to be fucking in the first place due to Jack seriously fucking her shit up at the Overlook. She's in a back brace with a shattered vertebrae and a few broken ribs. You didn't read the book, you just read the Wikipedia page on the book. Even more, the fucking Wikipedia page doesn't mention anything about Dick and Wendy fucking so you just built up some weird head canon about that which says a lot about you, mostly that you're obsessed with white women getting fucked by black dudes.
>>215558732Not that anon but...The weaponization of Pennywise by the government thing was actually confirmed in a review, so take that as you will. Personally I don't think it's any more retarded than the later Dark Tower Somba Corp shit
>>215558708I just don't understand why you feel the need to lie about reading The Shining. It's a good book and quick read. Just read it and form your own thoughts on it. I recommend Doctor Sleep as well, even though the film is superior
>>215558932>I got a copy of the book and the audio book.Post a picture of your hand holding the book with the audiobook playing in the background or fuck off.
>>215558946I don't think I've ever met anyone who liked the later Dark Tower books. Shit peaked at the Wizard and the Looking Glass and went down the shitter once it started going down the shitter when it started getting meta and incorporating Stephen King himself into the story.
>mfw looking up jewskin lampshades on etsy
>>215559015I actually liked Wolves of the Calla and The Dark Tower, but I've made the decision to just skip Song of Susannah every single time. In the inevitable Mike Flanagan adaptation of the Dark Tower series I hope he really cleans that shit up because whoa what a waste of a book
>>215559003This is all you're getting, fag. Now go see a therapist, maybe they can help you find the root cause of your black cock obsession.
>>215559057As expected. Can't read so relies on audiobooks.
>>215559070Says the guy who can't read books and has to look at Wikipedia summaries.
>>215559123>Says the guy who can't read books and has to look at Wikipedia summaries.
>The US government wants to capture Pennywise and use him as a weapon against the Soviets.>To do this, they need to acquire the shards from the meteorite he landed on earth in, which will allow them to control him.>In order to do this, they decide to use Leroy Hanlon, a Korean war veteran who suffered a brain injury that makes him impervious to fear.>The Hanlon family is sent to Derry. Pennywise discovers Hanlon's mission and invulnerability and seeks to destroy him.>Pennywise begins manipulating the town into turning against the Hanlon family. The kids try to stop him, but it culminates in a racist massacre.>Pennywise also slaughters most of the town's population, and mind wipes the survivors into forgetting he exists, winning in the end.
>>215559144Just admit you got BTFO'd hard, bro. You didn't read the book, you read the Wikipedia entry, and built up some weird head canon in your head about Wendy getting fucked by Dick. You didn't even know the characters' names. I've got the actual story on hand to prove you wrong. Anyone who's read the story knows you're wrong. Go seek help for your fucking cock addiction.
>>215544394Why is half the cast black when it's set in rural Maine in the 60s?
>>215559197You forgot the native americans.
I got bored ten minutes in. I don't think I'll really be missing anything by skipping this series. I'll keep an eye out in case the turtle shows up.
>NEVER ASK A JEW ABOUT THE TUNNELS AAAARGH!!
>>215559769Funny thing is while a skin lamp was discovered, it was determined that it wasn't made from human skin. Shit, they couldn't even determine if it was real skin at all.
>>215548705I'm leaning toward it being a test. The last thing we need is for them to be ripping off Project Bluebook's ripoff of The Americans on top of everything else.
