>best bond actor>only 2 filmswhat gives?
Roger Moore will always be the best Bond.
There was some legal bullshit between the studio and the whoever owned the rights. So his contract lapsed. He was tired of waiting around for them to get their shit together so he moved on. If they hadn't fucked around we would have had more Dalton Bond kino
>>215545089>Roger Mooretbf he always ranked as alot of peoples favourites
>>215545090>There was some legal bullshit between the studio and the whoever owned the rightstbf that seems to be a common issue with eon and the bond franchise. but that sucks cause dalton was great
>>215545043I cannot tell if you do not know the answer or do and are just trying to start a thread but, as to why he only did 2 films that is due to the rights being disputed. Kevin McClory had rights to Thunderball which sort of spiralled into a wider ownership issue regarding James Bond. The whole reason Never Say Never Again was able to get made is due to McClory being able to being able to legally remake Thunderball - McClory also tried to remake Thunderball a third time with the title Warhead, with Liam Neeson rumoured to be attached. The reason Quantum was used rather than SPECTRE in the early Bond films is that McClory claimed rights over SPECTRE. The rights over Casio Royale also only came under Eon in 1999, with there being the 1967 film and an American TV episode adaptation from the 1950s. It was only in 2013 that Eon had actually secured unquestionable legal rights to everything, although really even before then the whole thing was bullshit. Back to Dalton, basically he felt he had aged out of the role by 1995. As much as I like Dalton, and GoldenEye does seem to have had his Bond more mind than Brosnan, it was probably for the best of the franchise to start anew with Brosnan. Dalton would have been nearing 50 by GoldenEye so there is not really much more you can get out of him; as much as the Dalton films get praised now they were not actually that successful at the time of release; and it is just too much of a gap between LTK and GoldenEye, the momentum is not there.
>>215545217i wasn't aware of the legal issues but i did know they weren't super successfull which is a shame. But yea i can see what you mean when you say goldeneye was meant for dalton but brosnan was good just had some meh films towards the end of his run
>>215545089I think judging him by the same exact metrics as the others doesn't make that much sense. He's was fine as lighthearted Bond.
>>215545043>best bond actorFuckin based!
>>215545043That scene was badass
>>215545217Hey man I think the thread is going to die now, like everything else you touch, so let me just offer you a tip for the future: If the question in the OP that nobody actually gave a shit about already got answered by people who obviously also didn't give a shit, that's not a great time for you to hammer out an autistic screed with in-depth contextual information that nobody gives a shit about. Because it's autistic and everyone hates it and hates you.Okay well bye
>>215545043I bond burgered your sister last night
>>215545451what you being a cunt for?
>>215545491Because he's a cunt.
>>215545300Something to keep in mind about GoldenEye is how long the script got worked on for. It started shortly after LTK was released in 1989. The original outline was done by Michael G. Wilson and some other guy. The basic gist was it was Bond in Hong Kong and was linked to the upcoming British handover of Hong Kong to China - the main from this is the villain was going to be senior British spy and it was going to be about high-tech, so basically the Alec and GoldenEye satellite aspect can be seen in that though otherwise very different. That script basically got rewritten by two other guys (one of which was the writer of the Johnny English films), which still had it kept on China though was about stealth fighters stolen. Then the script as we sort of actually know it got done by Michael France in 1993, who is actually credited as the screenwriter of GoldenEye. His script then got reworked another completely new guy, whose work then got reworked by a completely new guy, whose work itself then got edited by Bruce Feirstein (who worked on the next two Brosnan films after GoldenEye). So basically the script had 5 years of development and refinement. Also, GoldenEye has more in common with Moonraker the novel than Moonraker the film does.
>>215545451>autisticWhere do you think you are?
>>215545521>The basic gist was it was Bond in Hong Kong and was linked to the upcoming British handover of Hong Kong to China - the main from this is the villain was going to be senior British spy and it was going to be about high-tech, so basically the Alec and GoldenEye satellite aspect can be seen in that though otherwise very different. That script basically got rewritten by two other guys (one of which was the writer of the Johnny English films), which still had it kept on China though was about stealth fighters stolen.It's interesting the idea for China was considered even before Tomorrow Never Dies. For that that matter, maybe Tomorrow Never Dies got done as a result of the proto-GoldenEye spitballing. I suppose China is the obvious thing to move onto following the collapse of the Soviet Union and before 9/11 shifts everything to Islamic terrorism. Tiananmen Square and Hong Kong give China, and the economic reforms are starting to happen as well. Not that the Soviets are necessarily portrayed as evil in Bond films, but it is also not like Hollywood is trying to court 90s China.
>>215545521>Michael FranceHis script is actually available to be read - https://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/Goldeneye.pdf - just by skimming through it you can tell how different it is to the script.
>>215545043Back in the 80s people wanted Pierce, but then some retarded executive said 'oh he's going to be Bond? Better bind him down to do new Remington Steele stuff to make bank off it' and then Eon chose not to sign him because he got bound up in new Remington Steele shit, so they only ended up making a tv movie or something. So they went with Dalton for Bond, but people were annoyed so Dalton's run didn't do well. Reappraisals have been very kind to Dalton's two films.>>215545090His contract was about to lapse but in the final hours before his contract expired the company renewed Remington Steele. A dick move that made no one happy.
>>215545043based daltonhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFIm-90hZrA
>>215545089More like roger snore
>>215545451How retarded and fragile are (You) to think that a single reply dicussing Bond in a Bond thread destroys the thread? Even if you think his reply is autistic, is this your day on 4chan? Are you new to Bond threads? These threads are tpically a mixture of shitposting, possibly Bond waifuposting, and autistic dicussion.
>>215545217>>215545451I enjoyed his post. Rude mf
>>215545089Always struck me as a bit of a fag. Dalton is way better.
>>215546055could that just be the 70s campness though?
Does Licence to Kill have the worst Bond movie posters? Like look at this. There is something generically lazy and also off about it.
>>215545043>best bond actor>only 1 film
>>215546168They had considered doing illustrations. I am guessing they decided they were too arty and thereby too risky. Clearly enough consideration was given to commission conceptual art. You can find several concepts online. Here is two examples.
>>215545520God forbid someone makes a high-effort, informative post. What are you adding to the discussion other than raging homosexuality?
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>>215546274this fucking slaps, they should've gone for something like this
>>215546274That is by Vic Fair. He also did this for AVTAK.
>>215546295>>215546274Less clean though here's a version without that watermark.
>>215546274>>215546295Pick your poster.
>>215546168Pretty awful. I could make something like that in GIMP and I barely know how to open it
>>215545043Dalton's bond films are criminally underrated.
>>215546473I like the one in the middle
I didnt get to see LTK as a kid because of the rating so its a hidden gem I rediscovered. Benicio Del Toro was a nice surprise too.
>>215546737What is the rating of it in your country? In the UK it is a 15, and I saw the unedited version long before that.
>>215545974Do you think that song is better?
>>215545089I like the person and actor, but his Bond is almost a parody of James Bond. Everything is a joke, his films are like Adam Wests Batman in tone but without the charm of being fully zany.Nah fuck off with that shit, here's the list:1. Timothy Dalton, believably rough around the edges with a lot of playful charm when he needs to. More 3-dimensional and a Bond that at times feels like he's barely keeping it together either due to fear or psycho breakdowns.2. Sean Connery, plays Bond proper which is a very self assured and manipulative bastard. To modern eyes comes off as just a bit too perfect and in control.3. Pierce Brosnan, to be honest all he did was mix Connery and Moore in his Bond but somehow he got the balance right. Shame the movies got crappier writing as they went along, he deserved better scripts.4. David Niven, great as a max level Bond being drawn in once more to her majestys service5. Daniel Craig, he seems to think a sour version of Blue Steel is what makes a good Bond. He has no real seductive charm, I lol every time he tries to be suave Bond: the man looks like a real life version of the MAD comics Alfred E Neuman for crying out loud!6. George Lazenby, a very drama/theatre actor that I don't think fit the mold in any way7. Roger Moore, more like grandpa cosplaying Bond in a summer park theatre comedy
>>215546896I think it was 15. Im in UK.
>>215547309>6. George Lazenby, a very drama/theatre actor that I don't think fit the mold in any wayHe's barely even an actor, he's a model who scammed his way into the movie and ruined it.
>>215547309>Roger MooreDespite not being from the norf he is the favorite Bond of every fat dad from the norf. Their favorite film is Man With The Golden Gun and they laugh at the slide whistle effect every time.
>>215547480Well, probably why he was trying a more understated drama actor shtick (with some classic theatre physicality) to make up for that
>>215547480>It's all right. It's quite all right, really. Anon's having a seethe.
License to Kill is a feature length episode of Miami Vice. It is truly nothing special and only simps and morons think it is.
>>215545043you have to get good actor, good writer and good director all at once.>>215545090 this prevented better productions.
>>215545043>Only.That's all he needed and it was perfect.3 to 4 movies per actor is the sweet spot, otherwise they get tangled in the Broccoli meat-grinder that churns out duds like Moonraker, Diamonds Are Forever or Die Another Day.
>>215545090It wasn't so much as him getting tired of waiting, but the producers telling him that he would have to be in more than just one Bond movie, so he declined.At least he had a say in that choice. Poor Brosnan wasn't called back because of "muh reboot" with Casino Royale.
>>215545937>Back in the 80s people wanted Pierce, but then some retarded executive said 'oh he's going to be Bond? Better bind him down to do new Remington Steele stuff to make bank off it' and then Eon chose not to sign him because he got bound up in new Remington Steele shit, so they only ended up making a tv movie or something. So they went with Dalton for Bond, but people were annoyed so Dalton's run didn't do well. Reappraisals have been very kind to Dalton's two films.Dalton was actually the choice gor Bond around the time Roger Moore was hired, but Dalton thought himself too young to play Bond, so he declined the role. Then Roger Moore wound up in the role for over a decade.
>>215547309I agree with this but I'd put Lazenby above Craig and Moore above Niven. Moore's performance is honestly underrated. Yes, the tone of the films is all over the place but if you focus on how Moore plays Bond, you can tell he's also a really dark character under the facade of a gentleman. I always felt he was quite cold at times, which would make sense coming after the death of his wife.With Lazenby, I honestly just think came in at the wrong time. With some experience he could have been as good as Connery but he feels too much like he's playing Bond, rather than being him. He handled the emotional scenes well and I always thought he looked more capable than Connery in the fight scenes.
>>215545043>>215545090dalton wasn't even supposed to be bondthey wanted brosnan for the living daylights but brosnan had a tv show contract so he couldn't do the movie
>>215548254Moonraker and DAF are masterpieceswatch more Bond and evolve into the knowledge the rest of us have
>>215545043It's a disgrace, isn't it? The best Bond since Connery, and he's a footnote between Moore and Brosnan.He got fucked by that lawsuit causing the six year gap, then he quits just as it's resolved because Cubby wanted him to do more Bonds if he did GoldenEye. Also there's the subtext that the burger audience and studio suits didn't like him because they wanted their British spies to be funny and goofy, not hard edge. Brosnan was known and liked in burgerland, so they got their younger but edgier Moore. Then they fucked him too after DAD, and wasted 15 years with the miscast Craig who was always complaining about the part. Now with the Amazon faggotry, it's confirmed that Bond died back in 2002. 40 mostly good years though.
>>215545937>>215548903Yes, Pierce was initially cast for TLD, as Tim was unavailable at that time, but got fucked by the RS producers.But Cubby had wanted Dalton since OHMSS. Yes, he was too young at the time; but it is a shame that TD didn't start in FYEO and stay in until GE (plus the aborted Property of a Lady) and hand over to PB. I don't like how fans pit Dalton and Brosnan against each other like that. Cubby wanted them both.
>>215545974https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uh7Iy-4FB30
>>215546168>>215546274This one goes hard, IMO.Of course burgers didn't know what revoked meant, so they had to change the title.At least they forced the British spelling of licence in, even if burgers don't use it anyway
>>215550484Also this.
>>215550653This one is nice, without the pink.
>>215549890>dalton wasn't even supposed to be bondScandalous lies. Cubby wanted him back since OHMSS.
>>215550671If I remember correctly that is a fan poster.
