Why are they incapable of creating characters that oppose their views without turning them into caricatures?
>>215545532????
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>>215545606That's not what I was asking, retards like this exist. My question is why we can't have nuance? Why is it only stawmanning?
>>215545532leftists are completely ignorant of any legitimate counter-arguments because they are lazy, stupid and arrogant people surrounded by only other leftists they agree with. Anyone who disagrees is slandered as a Nazi and excommunicated.
>>215545532Both sides do this. Look at South Park
>>215545532>CariacturesLmao do you know what a cartoon is?
>>215545668It's almost like exaggeration and stereotypes make for good comedy
>>215545795>mr. birchum>good comedyretard altert
>>215545532This isn't a caricature. A caricature is an exaggeration.
>>215545705Meanwhile:>release the epstein files>you're a tranny>tariffs don't work>you're a tranny>Israel needs to be stopped>you're a tranny
>>215545958Maybe trannies shouldn't be vocal antagonists?
>>215545981Siding with Trump is siding with pedos, israel, india, communism and the oligarchy.
>>215545640> Here's your conservative cartoon, bro!>>215545668Multiple reasons but theain two are you people have made it impossible and are so ridiculous that portraying you as anything else is detrimental to society
>>215545795Clearly the formula isn't universal.
>>215546625But tried and true enough that you woild want to stick to it for your project
>>215545705It’s all just projection from them. The Nazis were leftists who hated capitalism.
>>215547809>The Nazis were leftistsJust because they had "socialist" in the name doesn't make them leftist. This is such a retarded brainlet argument, it's insane that people keep clinging to this point, especially when most of the people spouting this are nazi sympathizers. The Nazis were far-right ultranationalists who violently suppressed socialism and communism, calling them “leftist” is historically illiterate and retarded.
>>215546057>pedosSorry but I don’t like Trump or the government but the entirety of the left is nothing but child abuse: the ideology. Trans kids, bris, you name it. Nothing but child rape from the lot of you. IIRC Trump made trans kids illegal or are they still ((((((allowed)))))?
>>215548248See, this exactly the issue. I support the right of people to live their lives how they want to, as long as it doesn't harm anyone. The modern LGBT crowd is mentally ill, in just the same way as the MIGA cult, it's a bunch of retards shut off from the real world, who radicalized themselves in echo chambers. But they control the narrative, because they feature the most invested spastics who output like 90% of the political discourse, making it impossible to find a common ground.
>>215545705So just like rightoids.
>>215545532Because the people making this show see people like that as evil and the enemy so they have to make them as over the top and cartoonish as humanly possible because we cant be humanizing the enemy.To see the leftist version of this see: The Boys.
>>215548369“Bro bro it’s both sides bro. Both sides are equally as bad bro”Fucking tired of you fake ass “centrist” fags. The left is by far the worse of two evils and it’s not even close. You will be dumped in a mass grave one day hopefully
>>215548637Kikes had set up the two party system but you still want to side with red pedos just because you hate blue pedos more.
>>215548637>The left is by far the worse of two evils >You will be dumped in a mass grave one day hopefullyIronic.
>>215545640That is gay.
>>215548686Howeverbeit, he didn't say by whom
>>215548674Yet again “bro both sides bro BOOTTHH SIIIDES” fuck you you’re the fucking kike. Only one side of political machine advocates for illegal immigration, trans children, reparations for negroes, dei, the right to kill babies and enable whores,”. The left called everyone crazy conspiracy nuts when it came to the pedo issue for so long and now that they think it can hurt trump all of sudden it’s legitimate. Your time will come you scum. The ponzi scheme can only go so long
>>215548637>The left is by far the worse of two evils>You will be dumped in a mass grave one day hopefully
>>215548763t. useful idiot
>>215548686“If you kill your enemies they win”Fuck you fag. There is nothing morally wrong with culling those that make life hell for normal decent people. There is nothing wrong with eliminating those who destroy society like a bunch of leeches. Tick tock little fag
>>215548784No argument. I accept your concession. Fucking kike
>>215545668>he's a caricature>he's a strawmanThat guy literally exists irl so you're not making the correct argument here
>>215545532MAGAs have no real sense of humor, that's why they produce shit comedies. The Austin comedy scene is a meme centered around them shouting 'Retard' or racial slurs and attacking trannies. You know every fucking one of them watch sissy hypno porn to good. Like this shit, so fucking cringe.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX9GzHdqviA
>>215546057>I-I'm a tranny!You're a tranny
>>215548432Nah even the most mouthbreathing chud can accurately detail every tenant of leftist ideology, they've had it forced on them their entire lives. Ask a leftist what a conservative or libertarian believes and they literally have no clue, they immediately resort to childish ad-hominems about muh racism and greedy rich man bad.
>>215545532Says the side that believes most of the planet are nazis.
>>215549375>$40b to Argentina is a good thing!
>>215549412Nah, just the people who claim they are in 'secret' group chats their 'friends' later leak
>>215548637>Fucking tired of you fake ass “centrist” fags.I love how much this triggers you people. God forbid anyone has a neutral stance on something. No, you gotta pick one side and fight for it as if your life depended on it.
>>215545532Why can't righties make comedy?
>>215548637>The left is by far the worse of two evilsTrump is a pedophile and Congress is protecting him and other child rapists and murderers.
>>215549573Because they get triggered anytime anyone makes fun of them and their idea of 'biting social commentary' is dropping the n word and oven jokes.
>>215546057>siding with eitherIf i had it my way i wound turn the middle east into a crater, fuck em both
>>215549375>they immediately resort to childish ad-hominems about muh racism and greedy rich man bad.So once again, exactly what rightoids do, only it's trannies instead of racism.
>>215548447>cartoonishIts not "cartoonish." Its literally a cartoon lol.
>>215549641How about the $40 billion he's sending to Argentina because his friend stupidly purchased debt bonds? Or the upcoming war with Venezuela to steal their oil ala 2003 Iraq?
>>215549685I dont care, i want them all blown up
>>215549709So all of South America as well?
>>215549722Fuck off i just want the middle east and both groups there gone
>>215548779>>215548686>destroying evil is evil!The eternal """"centrist"""""
>>215549741We're gonna turn South America into the Middle East under Trump. He's bombing fisherman and lying that they are 'drug smugglers' to front an invasion to steal Venezuela's oil. We're also massively funding a weak government in Argentina to prop up a leader and some bonds another billionaire bought stupidly. This shit is so much closer.
>>215549799>but muh south americaI didn't fucking ask
>>215548792>>215549747Saying all your political opponents should be dumped in a mass grave is indeed evil.
>>215545606Fpbp as per usualOp is a fag
>>215549596The left had no intrest in with the epstien files when biden was in office either, they both are pedos you dumb sidescuck.
>>215549831It isn't if he is correct and they are all evil, though.
>>215549651>inserts trannyism into every public space>stop talking about trannies!!Fraudulent pRedditor detected. No "rightoid" has to mention your freak mental illness at all to prove that communism is retarded and doesn't work, you just happen to be the living proof.
>>215550062Incorrect, stop watching OAN. The files the FBI and Pam Bondi have are legally protected at the moment. Trump and Patel both claimed they would release the Epstein files and then lied.
>>215550111Then why didnt biden do it either if they had the files then you stupid sidesnigger?, im not a drumpf fan and i want both political parties dead
>>215550111No, he is entirely correct, the left did not pressure Biden to release the files.
>>215548841>sissy hypno pornYou fucking rats only know how to project lmaooooo holy crap.
>>215550150Biden isn't the president anymore, it's not like bitching about him is going to get the files released. But the trump administration is still scared shitless by the focus on epstein, they know it's not going away
>>215550196>Biden isn't the president anymoreKeyword THEN you fucking dishonest sidenigger
>>215550169Who is "the left"?
>>215550225Right, what I'm saying is it's besides the point now, there's nothing biden can do about it. You can either pressure trump to release the files or get nothing
>>215550231Name a single democrat who pressed for it to be released during biden
>>215550111to add to this, several democrats tried to get the files released in 2019:https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/6/fact-check-did-democrats-take-action-over-epstein-case-transparencythey were blocked by the Justice Department (probably correctly due to the protections of victims), something the Biden admin did not pursue as it was legally not proper. Trump and team did not want to release the files upon learning he's all over them.
>>215550266https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/8/6/fact-check-did-democrats-take-action-over-epstein-case-transparency
>>215550231Anyone who has a different opinion than me on identity politics. The irony is that many people who go on and on about "muh left" in this matter probably agree with them on a lot of other things like education, eceonomy, healtcare etc.
>>215550289>aljazeera>2025>not about pressuring biden to release itHoly fucking kek
>>215550315So you're defense that Trump is a child rapist is that Biden protected him?
>>2155502661. I wasn't even talking about that lmao2. Democrats are not left-wing, they're a liberal centrist party. You have one socialist running for office right now in the whole country and they're pulling out all the stops to shut him down
>>215550315wrong, it says they did pressure for more info including Acosta's testimony which Trump blocked lol
>>215550340Sandnigger im not defending trump, im calling out the fact nothing was done about the files while biden was in office , you are defending your smearong the red pedo while you pretend the blue pedo doesn't exist
>>215550348Dems are def centrist. Look at them losing their shit about Mamdani in NYC lol MAGAs hate Dems because Trump used WWE tactics to convince them they are ebil
>>215550231Maybe if you continue acting stupid it will stop the cratering of your political ideology!
>>215549540>>215549412You guys are talking about the same side right? The right does thing because they believe the left is secretly doing it. Their ok with Elon Musk funding Trump because they think Soros is doing the same.
>>215550380When did Biden promise to release the files?
>>215545532Your mistake is thinking that is a caricature >>215545606
>>215548841jesus christ what happened to him? last time i saw one of his bits he was just doing the goat schtick and random stoner humor
>b-b-but Biden
>>215550413Does he have to? The point of the discussion you were having with him was that leftists made no effort to release the files until their political opponent was implicated. I know this is difficult but try to focus for 5 seconds.
>>215550400Bro you have no idea what my political ideology even is. I just asked you a simple question, who are these leftists you're so upset about, and you can't even answer it.
>>215550400No really who are the left. It seems MAGA calls everyone who isn't loyal or blindly agrees with Them left. >>215550413I think it's obvious your asking a question you don't know the answer to.
>>215550445You admit Biden never promised to release the files. Trump promised to release the Files. He lied. Musk told us Trump is in the files. Trump's own admissions indicate he's in the files, including the materials leaked like his creepy love letter to Jeff. Trump is a pedo. You a defending a pedo.
>>215550348>2. Democrats are not left-wingSOME Democrats are not left-wing, the party's primary constituency and thus those they attempt to placate are left-wing, hence their continued failure recently.
>>215550400What is a leftist?
>>215550471Wow you're really good at this, I can almost believe that you're stupid and don't know what political alignments are!
>>215550445>The leftistThen why bring up Biden a democrat?
>>215550475I wanted the MAGAnon to know his logic is flawed. He won't admit it, but he knows Trump raped and murdered kids. It's why his current and previous administrations were filled with Epstein associates and yet both Biden and Obama had none.
>>215550505What is a woman?
>>215550491You don't hate pedos, you just hate them when it doesnt benefit the pedos that align with you politically.
>>21555049299% of democrats are not left-wing at all, they're pure centrist or even classically conservative. AOC and the squad are left-wing, Bernie Sanders is but he's technically an independent, and that's it.
>>215550491This is now post number two of me reminding you that the point of the discussion was that leftists did not focus on the Epstein files until their political opponent was implicated. I am beginning to think I am talking to ChatGPT
We're living in such a clown world, it's unreal. The fact that people actually, and unironically defend the Epstein shit feels like a fever dream.
>>215550492The leadership is 100% conservative, anon. They supported closing the border, are pro corporation, pro Israel, pro Iraq War, etc. etc. Trump does a good job making everyone think they're all AOC and Bernie, but 99% of Dems hate Bernie and AOC. It's why they iced them out of leadership roles and Bernie the ticket.
>>215550471>Bro ignore my folder full of twitterslop images owning da chuds and my constant crying of conservatives, you don't know my political ideologyI'll give you an answer, "the left" is the same people that cry about Sweeney having big tits and people thinking she's hot. You know that whole thing that happened only recently? I take it you made the jeans thing an instant memory hole, correct?
>>215545668>Meanwhile, every nuanced right wing character in a le heggin left wing fair and balanced social commetary: BLARRIGHA I HATE BLACK PEOPLE P:LEASE FUCK MY WIFE ADN ALSO I HA VE SMOL PENIS BECUEZS GUNS ADN TORNLAD DRU>MPFT BLARGHLARGH
>>21555054899% of ELDERLY Democrats are not left-wing. A majority of younger Democrats who the core party is desperately trying to retain IS left-wing. This is patently obvious to anyone with a frontal lobe, which is why they have continued to pursue politically suicidal policies that NONE of the old guard gave a flying fuck about for decades.
>>215550543Incorrect. I want all Democrats and Republicans who purchased children from Epstein to be prosecuted. As of right now, only one group seems to be actively protecting everyone on the list and in the files.
>>215550538Anyone 18+ who identifies as a woman
>>215550557The leadership is dying or on their way out, and they know it. The Democratic party today is leftist.
>>215550553And you're wrong in that claim, which has been proven. Trump, Bondi, Patel made it a major campaign promise to release the files, and now they're lying and refuse to release anything.
>>215550585You spent half of the thread pretending democrat pedos aren't a thing
>>215550616I'm not wrong in that claim though. You are continuing to bring up Trump and his party to avoid the simple fact that Biden was never pressured by Democrats to release the files. Why is that?
>>215550607>The Democratic party today is leftist.Wrong. Hakeem Jeffries is AIPAC's Bitch as is Gillibrand, Harris, etc. etc. Josh Shapiro and Gavin Newsome are insanely conservative and are also leading DNC choices for 2028 lol
>>215550625Wrong. Please don't strawman.
>>215545606This guy completely disappeared from public view
>>215550642>Gavin Newsome>insanely conservativeOkay, I'm being punked aren't I? Where's the fucking camera dude?
>>215545640Kino
>>215550667>Strawman>>215550111Your a fucking fed faggot
>>215550590So women are only those who identify as a woman? If someone does not identify as a woman can they be a woman?
>>215550564>>215550581Look at how angry he's getting over a simple question, and he still can't give a coherent answerWhat do leftists believe, you idiotic fucking mouth-breather? Do you even know?
>>215550640>Biden was never pressured by Democrats to release the filesThis perspective is skewed which is why you're mistaken. They released files relating to Ghislaine as was within the legal norms. Much of what Trump and co promised to release are typically never released for public consumption due to ongoing investigations and protecting victims. The current bipartisan bill pending (because Johnson has closed the House since August) would address those concerns for release. Yes... 'no dem asked for it during biden' because no one was chirping for them but people like Patel and Bongino. Now that Patel and Bongino have seen the files... they have hidden them and refuse to acknowledge Massie's bill.
Love to see that MIGAtards are starting to lose the narrative war on 4chan.
>>215550718I just gave you an answer.>responds with another twitterslop image owning da chudsYep.
>>215550718None of us are getting angry, we're just not playing your retarded game. You know what leftism is.
>>215550675Tell me positions that make Gavin a screaming lib?>>215550718>why would a transgender do this?
>>215550690HAHAHAHA HE MAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!!!
>>215550691It's up to them and not something I have to worry about desu, that's the beauty of accepting people for who they are instead of trying to lynch them or send them all to camps.
>>215550730This is a lot of word salad to attempt to avoid acknowledging that Democrats did not pressure Biden to release the Epstein files and only cared about them when Trump was implicated.
>>215545668You live under the purview of FBI + CIA & came to understand "fight the power" accordingly. Next question.
>>215550557>The leadership is 100% conservative, anon.and they are weak. America is becoming a failed state
>>215550793So you're not able to read. Cool.
>>215550788>Your mad because you pointed out im a lying goverment agent trying to keep you distracted that both sides are on the same teamOk glownigger
>>215550743Um no lmao, you started screeching about sydney sweeney
>>215550793This is the same party that really wanted to crack down on conspiracy theorists and acted like flat earth tards were a legitimate danger to society.
>>215550824Which you have failed to bring up until now because remembering the American Eagle ad made you upset. I think I nailed it without saying much.
>>215550810Yep. You see it with Mamdani and AOC. It's one of the reasons Harris lost and Trump won. Trump sold himself as lowering prices (which he didn't do) and bringing back American jobs (Amazon is projecting massive shitty job cuts and legit no good jobs are coming thru Trumps policies). It's why Mamdani is running so hot as he has plans to address food and housing. Dems are just trying to love Israel more than Trump rn and failing to do so.
Why is it morally wrong to be trans?
>>215550756>Tell me positions that make Gavin a screaming lib?I would be here all day if I were to list all the positions that leaves him on left of center, but for example he has championed bills that have made California one of the strictest gun control states in the country. He's a leftist.
>>215550822You mad and now you're scrambling.>>215550851>the Jews made you think people hate/love Sydney Sweeny as she sells you slop and now you're still bringing up the brands advertisedBased. Bud Light!
>>215550792I didn't ask you whether it's up to them, I asked you to define a woman. Your definition implies that only one's perception marks them a woman. So if someone doesn't perceive themselves as a woman, can they not be a woman?
>>215550793So? You're ignoring the fact the republican only cared when they were running for office. Now that they are in power. They refuse to release it and have lied about it constantly. >The list exist it's on my desk>The list exist because it's democratic propganda>The list exist but Trump isn't in it>The list doesn't existYou believe what they say about the list. Let me guess you also think Trump's tariff plan works?
>>215550878>It's actually this super epic conspiracy theory insteadAmazing. Here you are getting insanely angry that nobody is debating you and you throw this bad boy out.
>>215550814I read every word of your poor attempt at reframing the conversation from simple acknowledgment of political opportunism.
>>215550869>that have made California one of the strictest gun control states in the countryOK, so one policy driven by results. Anything else aside from 'muh 2a' ignoring the 2b part about regulations which also ignores all the mass shootings?
>>215550878Why are you defending keeping the my side vs your side narative when both are kidfuckers, you scream fed gaslighter
>>215550834>flat earth tards were a legitimate danger to society.You guys think Tylenol causes autism.
>>215550792>lynch them or send them all to campsSo true this is why I'm very pro-muslim, they'll liberate them.
>>215550851>>215550851Anon idgaf about some jeans ad, I haven't even seen it. I also haven't met a single person IRL who has, much less anyone who's "outraged" over it. You need to touch grass my friend
>>215550886I'm not ignoring anything about Republicans because I never defended them or care about them at all. I simply made it clear that the other anon's point about Dems doing nothing about it was factually true.
>>215550895You did not, you recognized the pattern of letters but the facts don't fit your narrative so you excuse Trump's history of raping children.
>>215550914>thinking muslims won't turn on you next
>>215550902I'm sorry, you asked for something that shows he is a leftist. Stringent gun control is one of the core idealisms held by leftists. Are you going to acknowledge that or just pretend to be stupid?
>>215550882bro thinks he's plato lmao
>>215550917Happy for you bro make sure you tell bluesky how you epically owned 4chan today
>>215550918>I never defended themYou're latterly using republican talking points. Like i said you keep asking questions but clearly don't know the answer.
>>215550920I don't have a narrative, because my entire point was that you did not acknowledge the simple fact that Democrats did not pressure Biden to release the files. Which is true. I don't care about Republicans at all, so your continued insistence on this bellyaching is tiring.
>>215550967It doesn't matter if it's a Republican talking point if it's true. If Republicans said that Democrats support bigger government that would be a fact, whether or not it's a talking point they use for political opportunism. It is a fact that Democrats did not push for the release of the Epstein files until their political opponent was implicated. I don't know why that's so hard for you to acknowledge.
>>215550949And it's made blue areas infinitely safer, however it's a singular issue. I am 100% for firearms regulations as stated in the second amendment and I am a gun owner with a CCR license. Anyone who's shot at a range knows there should be regulations on guns as is stated in the amendment. Meanwhile ICE is ignoring the first and fourth amendments lol
Why is it so hard for you retards to grasp both parties are complicit in the kidfucking and are in bed together?
>mods preparing to enter this thread
>>215545668>retards like this exist>strawmanningKnow the meaning of words before you use them
>>215550952this dude hears the question 'what is a woman' and thinks you have to be a fucking philosopher to answer the question lmao
>>215550974Which I proved to be incorrect. You just refuse it as it does not align with your narrative.
>>215551004>t is a fact that Democrats did not push for the release of the Epstein filesWrong. Proven wrong here. They wanted the stuff released in 2019 with Epstein's arrest and suicide. Trump blocked that.
>>215551004>If it's trueSo your asking why didn't Biden's DOJ release evidence to the public thus damming their case while prosecuting's one of the biggest human trafficking cases in history?
>>215550949>Stringent gun control is one of the core idealisms held by leftistsNo it's literally not, if anything leftists are pro-gun rights
>>215551005We're not talking about 'some regulations,' we are talking about the most stringent gun laws in the country. We're not debating the efficacy of policies, we're debating the political nature of them. So are you going to accept that Newsome is leftist due to his policies?
>>215551042Already explained in this thread. Sorry the facts do not align with your narrative.
>>215551028As I have already pretty clearly outlined to you, I do not care about Republicans. You didn't prove anything to be incorrect, you waffled and spit out word salad about what was legally required, which is to say you dodged the question.
>>215551056Your words that you garbled up from Reddit and Bluesky are not facts. Maybe try being a little more detailed.
>>215551048Exactly, regulation is well within the view of many conservatives like Antonin Scalia. Anon is parroting NRA talking points which the gun manufacturers wrote for them.
>>215551056No, you didn't. You're whole argument is why didn't Biden's admiration release the list to the public. The answer is because it's evidence in a court case. To quote yourself facts don't align yourself up with the truth.
>>215551048> if anything leftists are pro-gun rightsThis is why absolutely no one bothers to even debate with you people anymore. We know you are just going to lead us down one of the stupidest fucking conversations we have ever had in our lives.
>>215551051see >>215550902Seems like the regulations work. The second amendment asks for regulations as did conservatives before the NRA went full Russian.
>>215551048Probably the most hilarious post on this site right now, it's just random screencap of the first paragraph of a wiki page that does not back up the argument at all.
>>215551086>Uhhhh SOME regulation is the same thing as having to install a bullet button on your riflesYou people are completely dishonest to your core. You would argue Democrats are staunchly in favor of religion in school if you thought it would win you an argument
>>215551098You just answered it. Trump demanded the release, despite it being evidence in a court case, then didn't claiming there's nothing there thru Bondi and Patel. He lied. The facts do not align with your narrative.
>>215545532>Cartoon satire has cartoonish caricatures Oh no, anyways ...
>>215551133Democrats are not in favor of religion in public school but are ok with it in private school. Our founding fathers were very clear on a separation of church and state. Then there's Republicans in Texas forcing the Bible to be taught...
>>215551135>The facts do not align with your narrative.What are you talking about? You seemed lost and confused now.
>>215551113It seems like you are desperate to discuss anything other than simply accepting that Gavin Newsome is a leftist based on his leftist policies.
>>215551163It's a bot.
>>215551078Lemme quote twitter/x for you:>free CP join Telegram snuff/incest/beast/interracial onlyfans leaks here
>>215551155Okay, I'm now convinced I am speaking to a bot
>>215551171Why is your algorithm like that? Such a freak, I can see why you hide on Bluesky.
>>215550902>Deaths by firearms Now exclude suicides and examine gun homicide rates by county. We have a gun ownership rate which is higher than our total population but an overall gun deaths rate lower than Brazil which has a guns per capita rate of 8
>>215551169Yup, I just now realized. Holy fuck these things are getting better, fucking wild.
>>215551163You answered it bro.
>>215551208It's some out-of-country thing. You'll see these posters suspiciously die off when most burgers get off work.
Are societies problems really just because kids dont like woodshop?
>>215551166Your entire argument is based on Gavin following the second amendment? Weak argument bro.>>215551198>ahh the facts don't align with my argument?!>do this.. and this... remove this... alter this... SEE I WAS RIGHT
>>215551113>The second amendment asks for regulationsThe founding fathers allowed people to privately own artillery dude , it's asked for a well regulated *militia* meaning Americans should know how to operate firearms and organize themselves not ban people from owning certain firearms You do realize that in this contry's beginning we were a colonial and frontier country , right?
>>215551189nta but Elon makes money that way.
>>215551181Da, tovarisch?
Insane to think that this man became the right's enemy #1 this past week because the toddler in command posted some whining tweets.
>>215551240>Your entire argument is based on Gavin following the second amendment? Weak argument bro.My entire argument is that Gavin Newsome supports stringent gun control because he is a leftist. I know you REALLY want to make me debate you about gun control but this is now the third post I am going to ask that you stay on topic and acknowledge he's a leftist. Let's see if I need a fourth
>>215551240Your *facts* are incorrect statistics. If you remove suicides from gun death rates and examine where most gun homicides occur its mostly in places with anti gun ownership laws like Chicago usually in cities. There is no correlation between gun ownership and gun homicides, again we have a lower gun *death* rate than Brazil which has very stringent gun control. Almost like violent isn't caused by access to means of violence but deep societal issues
>>215551250This. I read it on Bluesky.
>>215551260True, literally the patron saint of conservatism and they curse his name now. Should have seen it coming though from how quick they turned on John McCain
>>215551248So you're saying the original intent is no longer valid? Even Scalia agreed “reasonable regulation" was within bounds with his Heller decision.
>>215551272His position is the same as Justice Scalia. Are you saying Scalia was a leftist?
>>215551355I am saying that arguing in favor of stringent gun control is a leftist policy. Are you saying that stringent gun control is not something argued in favor of by most leftists?
>>215551368It's not mutually exclusive. Again, it's not really a leftist position if conservative justices on the Supreme Court have upheld that weapon regulations do not conflict with the intent on the first amendment.
>>215551418*second amendment.
>>215551368WHAT IS A LEFTIST
>>215551418I didn't say anything about weapon regulations by their nature being leftist, I am arguing that stringent regulations such as bullet buttons are leftist policies. This is a widely accepted fact. It is extremely simple, I don't know why you are finding it so hard to accept that Gavin is a leftist because he supports leftist policies.
>>215548637>“Bro bro it’s both sides bro. Both sides are equally as bad bro”This, but unironically. Of course, anyone who stands on either extreme end will believe they are perfect and have all the right answers, while the opposite side are the worst people in the world, but any normal person can see how utterly retarded both extreme ends are.
>>215551459>>>google.com
>>215551368>>215551459>>215551477Generally in politics, liberal = more rights, less regulation and conservative = fewer rights, more regulationHence why conservatives think gay marriage should be banned, leftists think marijuana should be legalized, etc
>>215551463>I am arguing that stringent regulations such as bullet buttons are leftist policies.then you're doing a bad job if conservatives also argue such regulations are within the constitutional intent. But if that's you're only argument that he is a secret leftist then you have a very weak argument. As a leftist I can tell you I did not want Kamala, I did not want Biden, and I do not want Gavin. They are way too far right and are basically moderate Republicans.
>>215551464Only a leftist deals in absolutes
>>215551505Basically. Leftists do not want guns banned, just regulated. Conservatives want media banned. They want rights banned. They would rather send billions to Musk to go to the moon than feed and educate citizens. They'd rather block bipartisan border bills to secure it and would rather have unlimited funding for a fascist police force who is right now breaking first, fourth, and seventh amendment rights.
>>215551578>>215551505This, I read it on Bluesky.
>>215551562>except gender
>>215551505>>215551578The core difference is that people on the left assume that people in general are good, while people on the right assume the opposite.
>>215551578Well part of the reason it's so confusing is that republicans are literally evil, anybody who lived through the Bush era knows this. They're constantly pulling heinous shit like pic related (in my home state) and getting away with it because nobody in the US reads the news.
>>215551631Just wait for the Venezuela invasion as Trump wants their oil. Literally a repeat of 2003, Narcoterrorism and all.
>>215551631>I am the one very fucking smart person in this sea of fucking idiots I fucking hate this country>election time>lose>WTF HAPPENED TO THE COUNTRY I LOVE
>>215551535Conservatives do not argue that bullet buttons are within the constitutional intent. My argument isn't that he's a secret leftist, it's that he's a clear leftist and if you were being honest you would just admit that. I also don't care that you didn't want Kamala or Biden, it doesn't change the policies they support and supported and where those policies lie on the political spectrum. Just because someone is a leftist doesn't mean that you agree with them, I have no idea why you would think something like that is reasonable.
>>215551586How am I wrong? Mamdani said it best, they'd rather spend billions in negative ads against him vs just paying their fucking taxes.
>>215551649Two more weeks. I heard this was coming after all LGBT people are sent to sent slave camps.
>>215551668>DAE KNOW POLITICIANS SPEND MONEY ON ADS?Brilliant.
>>215551631Why should the government mandate paid sick leave? Are they going to pay it as well?
>>215551505This is true. Liberals are in favor of more rights, for example the right as a baker to refuse to bake a cake for gay people. Couldn't believe they said that, I was with the conservatives on that one making them bake the fucking cake.
>>215551621That doesn't really have anything to do with the definition of either term. I'm not talking about democrats or republicans here, just what it ACTUALLY means for policy to be liberal or conservative.For example, Donald Trump is very liberal when it comes to regulation, especially in regard to the climate where he's rolled back a bunch of environmental initiatives. But he's very conservative in regard to immigration, what with the ICE crackdowns, etc. I'm not making a commentary on either issue here, just trying to describe the terminology. This is basic poli-sci stuff.
>>215551698>chuds don't understand rights stillColour me surprised
>>215551668>Mamdani said it bestyou said it xister
>>215551718>ColourInteresting.
>>215551690Who owns the companies that put out the ads?
>>215545532not even the perspective of the UNITY is correct. this being a cheap flash-style animation that just re-uses the same body while moving the limbs around makes this significantly worse. you just had to get the perspective right ONCE for fucks sake.
>>215551697Because the private enterprise will never prioritize the individual. It's why people are fucking idiots who say "they should run the government like a business".
>>215551718You're right, how silly of me. When you earlier said liberals are in favor of more rights, you actually had an extremely narrow confined version of the word you mentioned, which excludes things that leftists don't like. That's why if I made a similar statement about the unavailability of many firearms in liberal states you would have gotcha'd me by telling me I should have read the fine print.
>>215551562The far left: >You're either with us or you're a racist fascist nazistThe far right:>You're either with us or you're a leftist tranny cuck There's no room for nuance on either side. You can't be on the right, but disagree with the far right. Then you are the exact same as the far left.
>>215551752They don't need to prioritize the individual. The individual prioritizes the individual, and can decide whether they want to accept an employment contract that they find suitable.
>>215551704>But he's very conservative in regard to immigration,Only to certain colors. He's just racist.
>>215551752>Because the private enterprise will never prioritize the individual.Glad we agree. The individual can pay for their own sick time by saving from their paycheck.
>>215551791>You can't be on the right, but disagree with the far rightI'm sorry? You most certainly can be a soft conservative and disagree with far right opinions without receiving backlash.
>>215551800That's the government's job. Of course, its not profitable.
>>215551824I just explained why it doesn't need to be the government's job. I can choose whether or not I want to accept an employment contract that has no PTO. I'm the one that decides whether it profitable for me or not.
>>215551857What if a group of individuals decide to make the business owner change the contract? Now what?
>>215551338Reasonable regulation =/= banning firearms from law abiding citizens. If you're a felon? Sure. Banning semi automatic rifles and handguns? No. Again, access to the means of violence does not cause violence and you can't prove otherwise.
>>215551505>liberal = more rights, less regulation and conservative = fewer rights, more regulationBoth conservatives and liberals in the US are ideologically "liberals" holy shit Americans are retarded lmao.
>>215551873What if you replied to posts without making stupid non-sequiturs? I don't know man, I wish we lived in that world.
>>215545532because they don't have any true beliefs, they just have talking points.
>>215548637Even twitter into green text’s now, what the fuck even level of newfag are you
>>215551924I always ask myself when the topic of politics in my nation comes up, "what does some retarded Eurofaggot think about all this?"
>>215551938We do. The group of individuals is the government, retard.
>>215548637Sorry youre to retarded to have any self awareness. Thats not anyone elses problem tho
>>215551991Yes, and that was a complete non-sequitur to the point that was made. "What if the government forcibly made the change" is not a cogent response to "there is no need for the government to step in, I can decide what is and is not profitable." If my argument is price controls aren't needed for games and that I can decide whether I want to buy it at any given price point, and your response is 'WELL WHAT IF SOMEONE CAME ALONG AND MADE THEM SELL IT FOR $100" it doesn't prove anything other than that you need to try focusing for longer than five seconds to respond to me.
>>215551924Republicans have recently become far-right authoritarian tho
>>215552037You're a black retard gorilla nigger. Zero reading comprehension.
>>215552121I accept your concession. You failed to answer an argument as to why government has to be involved in an employment contract any adult can readily decide for themselves as to its profit. Thank you for playing.
>>215551818Not according to the most mindbroken /pol/ retards on this board.
>>215545606That's not his hair 98% of the time .
>>215550792Based trans ally
This thread is trickery on top of trickery, just what the goverment wants
>>215550855>as he has plans to address food and housing.by making them more expensive and inaccessible? lol socialists never learn
>>215552044You should be embarrassed for thinking that.
>>215551048>if anything leftists are pro-gun rightsThat's hilarious because every leftist regime in history "took the guns".
>>215552345And when it all comes crashing down and his successor fixes it, he and his supporters will take credit for it lol
>>215551924>Both conservatives and liberals in the US are ideologically "liberals"Which is a good thing, you braindead bootlicking tankie.
I dunno but both sides need to create great works of art instead of slop, which neither side is capable of anymore.
>>215545668>That's not what I was asking, retards like this exist. >Why is it only stawmanning?I don't think you understand what the word strawmanning means.
>>215550669I saw a clip of him on Jesse Lee Peterson's channel recently.
>>215548447>To see the leftist version of this see: The Boys.The boys is actually the opposite, bizarrely, they always shoehorn some pointless positive quality on the villains as a pathetic attempt at moral superiority in pretending they are le party of empathy, when they are never so understanding of "environmental factors" in real life
>>215552176it was at the time it came out, there was a brief era where breadtubers tried to own the beta onions look to redefine it as cool healthy masculinity or something but quickly stopped because it was fucking retarded and they just got laughed at more
>>215545532I think that's the most telltale sign of being uncreative and just unworldly in general. We have some idea of archetypes but very rarely can people be pigeonholed into a complete living stereotype, most people have numerous idiosyncrasies that run counter to the assumptions you'd make on them based on their surface level personality. There's a 30 year old at my work who vapes, drives a JDM Eclipse, wears Vans and flat brim hats who's an ultra-conservative Christian Nationalist. There's also a 40 year old toothless former roughneck with the thickest accent you ever heard that's a capital D democrat. Watching characters behave 100% as we expect them to is not only boring, it isn't even true to reality.
>>215545532I don't know who this is.
>>215550102>>215549375>>215545705Absolutely zero self-awareness.
>>215548637>the left and centre should all be killed>also it's not my side that's the problem it's everyone else
>>215549747Have you ever considered the possibility that you are evil?
>>215552363>source: Dude trust me
>>215552363That's a characteristic of authoritarianism, not leftism. So if you're an authoritarian regime, you're obviously going to take the guns regardless of your group's politics
>>215554265Yes, I remember the robust citizen gun ownership in the Soviet Union, Communist China, Cambodia under the Khmer Rouge, and Communist Cuba. It is definitely not the case that leftist regimes invariably disarm their public as they rise to power, saying otherwise is crazy and you should have your guns taken away if you think so.
>>215554671What are you going to do when Trump takes your guns away?
>>215554702The same thing I'm going to do when the other things you said would happen did not happen: Nothing, because they did not happen.
>>215554721>I'm going to stick my head in the sand and pretend everything is fine, just like I did every other timeThat's what I thought
>>215545606Rekt
>>215554775>I'm going to make up a scenario that will never happen and call someone else naive when they don't buy my bullshit
>>215549375Yup. 100%
>>215554056Yes you indeed have zero self awareness
They lack any semblance of original thought and do so only by the consensus of those around them. They can't conjure up ideas without the fear of it being judged by the collective. They get their education from Twitter and don't immerse themselves in actual literaure and any semblance of an unbiased stance on world history and events. Any man that actually resembles or has the characteristics of the "man" in the cartoon OP posted can't be categorized as male in any semblance of the word, yet there they are.
>>215554836The thought of it is so terrifying to you, isn't it? Having to give up the totem of your masculinity in order to preserve your imaginary relationship with the fat pedophile oligarch you've pledged yourself to? But we all know you'd just bend over and comply, like usual, because you're a good little bitch who does whatever daddy trump tells you to do. You will never, ever push back on anything he does, no matter how awful (case in point, pic related)
>>215554899I can practically hear you panting in fury while you typed this.
>>215554950Whew, close one, you almost had to think for a second
>>215554950>"n-no u"Your superior whitoid intellect, sir.
>>215554950
>>215554983>>215555006>>215555022holy fuck you are absolutely seething right now
>>215555046Oh, he mad, all right...
>>215554983>>215554899You are an absolute sidescucked faggot, get with the program and hate both parties already
>>215553666The same people now look like 70s pedophiles for some reason
>>215555046>anon's face when his echo chamber collapses
>>215555087>your face when you typed that out
>>215555022No ones denying he's a pedophile retard, you on the other hand bat a blind eye to the fact your party just only is making it an issue now when they could have in 2016 meaning they are also kidfuckers.
>>215555104not that anon but nice try lol
>>215555104>Black Lives Water WaiterIs this some subtle joke about black people unable to swim and just sink to the bottom?
>>215555117>n-not that anon but nice try lol
>>215555109>Trump is a pedophile, but you guys are the REAL villains for not stopping himSurely you realize that this is not a good look
>>215555153more than one person is allowed to disagree with you at a time, it's not like a presidential debate where you can whine about people ganging up on you
>>215548779Go back
>>215555155They didnt stop him because they are pedophiles too you dishonest nigger.
>>215545532hahahaNo one watched that stupid cartoon. They failed so badly to challenge regular comedy with something comparably humorous. Pretty sad. And they got the cheapest animators too. I get that they wanted to try and find "conservative" humor, but they didn't find it.
>>215555194Funny how everyone who has the slightest problem with your actions just so happens to be an evil pedophile jew bent on destroying humanity
>>215545795You think Birchum was GOOD?
>>215555194>>215555235release the files conservatards, republicans are the only ones blocking it right nowthey're deliberately keeping the government shut down to stop the vote
>>215545705lol, is this why your friends and family no longer speak with you, chud?You did this to yourself and you're wrong about EVERYTHING. You don't trust real news anymore and live in a schizo bubble. Lots of you bitter incel alt-right faggots do.
>>215555245Your the faggot insisting democats arent also kidfuckers and that the left and right aren't ultimately on the same side, you absolutely are covering for elites
>>215555186you're so right anon, I'm sorry I should recognize you're another person. This is what you looked like instead
>>215545793You misspelled the word you're quoting.And you don't get why everyone thinks you people are stupid?
>>215555276You are projecting. My family loves me and talks to me daily.
>>215555271Yeah and you would cry and shit yourself if they did because your democrat leaders are also there.
>>215548248>the entirety of the leftYou're really not paying attention. If you think that the 70% of Americans who refused to vote for Trump are all far-left antifa extremists you're a drooling retard. Most people are in the middle. They vote for the lesser of two evils. Not sure how MAGA squeaked through again, but it's over after this.Even people who voted for the GOP in 24 will not do so again.
>>215545958That's 4chan saying that though, you're proving the right legitimately critiques Trump's policies.Meanwhile the left literally has to live in an echo chamber hugbox safe space to crush any dissent.
>>215555284>house democrats put forward a motion to force the release of the epstein files>every democrat votes for it, all republicans vote against it>therefore both sides are equally bad
>>215555318If any democrats are on the list they should be exposed too, nobody on the left is disputing this. It's a just a smokescreen from the right.Release the files
>>215555346>4 chan is right wingI guess that explains all the gay cuck porn.
>>215555349>more dishonest sides cocksucking>not knowing its all an act and they are all buddies off stage>pay no mind they could of done this when they were in office.Holy shit you unironically think voting actually does something too don't you lmao
>>215548792The left has the decent people. The right has the stupid people who don't have empathy for others. Yet we're all in the 99%. The right thinks they're someday going to be SO rich that they need to support the billionaire tax cuts. Or they think the right actually cares about social issues like "wokeness", and that it will be worth becoming poorer over. Obviously they're wrong. Which is why the right is well known as unintelligent and uneducated. Useful idiots. lol
>>215555400If voting doesn't change anything, then how did trump "win three times"?
>>215555424A lot of those are leftism not liberals so I can immediately discount everything you say fucking moron
>>215555431Because NWO decided it
>>215548841No shit.Breuer has never been that talented or funny, but this bitter, angry, righteous chud act STILL complaining about people who wore masks five years ago is fucking pathetic.He needs to go back to getting stoned and staying out of politics he clearly doesn't understand.
>>215549375>>215549540>NahAre you guys Australian or just idiots?
>>215555461Great, then I don't want to hear anything positive about trump out of your mouth ever again lol
>>215549517Everything Dear Leader Trump does is a good thing. Praise him!
>>215555379>nobody on the left is disputing this>several faggots (feds) in this very thread are pretending democrats can't possibly be in the files.Yeah ok anon
>>215555494I don't like any politician fucktard
Reminder that Robert Maxwell was an Israeli spy who sold spyware to the US military. This is a fact. What’s also a fact is that his son-in-law Jeffrey Epstein was best friends with your boy Donald. Republicans are so cucked by Israeli. They’re trying to make it a law to withhold any funding if you utter a single bad word about Israeli. Look up San Marcos, Texas.
>>215555510>>several faggots (feds) in this very thread are pretending democrats can't possibly be in the files.Anon do you know who is in charge of the federal government right now?
>>215555548Thats cool bro, im still not siding with mudslimes either, fuck everyone in the middle east
>>21554954390% of us are centrists really. You ask these rightwingers what they believe in one by one, and at the end of the list they're 7 out of 10 for democratic policies. They don't even know what they're rejecting because it's all tied to the dumbest social issues.>But ALL of you lefties think there are 83 genders and you want open borders!Nope. There are two genders and we need rules in place for legal immigration like we've always had; no "open borders".Most Democratic Party politicians will agree with that. The chuds simply think every extremist fringe blue-hair in-your-face antifa warrior kindergarten teacher represents the left, when really it embarrasses us. Just look at ACTUAL Republicans like Bush and Cheney and Romney. They want nothing to do with Trump. Only the biggest retards think Trump is a good dude. Most who voted for him barely did so.
>>215555561Im not engaging in your controlled opposition glownigger
>>215549573They've never been creative or artistic people. They have no brain for it.
>>215555594>Most Democratic Party politicians will agree with that.Dems are protesting ICE detention facilities and governor of Illinois mayor of Chicago are explicitly not supporting ICE and DHSImmigration is the one thing Trump hasn't cucked out on
>>215555458No, there's no distinction and you agree with everything on that list, making you a hypocrite.Get it together, dumbass.
>>215555461>NWO
>>215555310Yeah, because you live at home, incel.
>>215555660>pretending globalist aren't real
>>215555607Trump literally appointed the current heads of every government agency, it's his fucking job as presidentAnd yes that includes the CIA>b-but there might be agents working against him from insideThey instituted a purge earlier in the year of anyone at the company suspected of disloyalty, same goes for the FBI
>>215555336>Not sure how MAGA squeaked through againThat is why you don't understand how completely fucked the left is politically now. Not only is the GOP going to win the next election, it's doubtful Democrats are going to win an election until they nuke their party and start over from scratch.
>>215555626It’s a fools errand. Hispanic Americans will become to dominate demographic anyway. Legal or illegal. You can’t end legal immigration without major ramifications, and you can’t deport 1/3rd of the nation without civil war. Until you actually vote for people who care about child care services, the economy, the middle class (basically everything republicans are against) it won’t be “fixed”We should have fixed it 30 years ago, but here we are
>>215555651Since you explicitly believe liberalism and leftism are the same, we can disqualify any political commentary you have
>>215555679Holy fuck we get it you love pedos when democrats are doing the diddlingKill yourself
>>215555626Trump is invading our own cities. No true patriot would stand for being treaded on in this way.Hypocrisy from the "right". ICE is out of hand and should be protested. And it's the right of every citizen to protest. Even Nixon wouldn't have shown so little respect to the people.Trump is a fascist so you can either admit that you support fascism for YOUR guy or you can fuck off.
>>215555678I'm not pretending, schizo. There's no secret "new world order" that decides everything. You're a conspiratard moron.
>>215555731(((Who))) could be behind this post?
>>215555715States rights.. to do what?>>215555694No idea what this non-sequitur is, you said Democrat politicians are "reasonable" people yet they explicitly reject the thing you said they support
>>215555691Yes, but the GOP. You have it backwards. Trump is not popular with anyone but his base of tards. And he can't run again if he even lives to 2028. No one wants what's happening and the economy will be toast by then. Pendulum will swing back left as it always does. Good luck finding someone to fill Trump's shoes.
>>215555697You agree with everything in those boxes. You're a hypocrite who should vote for the left since it's what you believe in.
>>215555676It's funny to hear a representative from the party of antifa queers living with their mother at 36 trying to tell me I'M the one living at home hahaha
>>215555594>But ALL of you lefties think there are 83 genders and you want open borders!I've never met a person who actually believes this. They see the most extreme opinions online and just assume everyone is like that. Just like how they think all gay people look like the parade freaks, while most of them look like perfectly regular dudes.
>>215555741The very NWO you warn of!! lolololIt all fits perfectly in your little brain.
>>215555774If you believe in equal rights, then people don't have a right to a racial enclave within congressional districts, right?
>>215555794Yes, and you can spot jews by sight. Very dumb chuds.
>>215555798Shouldnt you be making tunnels in new york?
>>215555765Trump doesn't need to be popular with anyone, the entire country now interprets Democratic Party affiliation with radical leftist ideology. You can do all the mental gymnastics you want to do to try and avoid the simple truth, but when you are wrong again actually use your fucking brain and consider it wasn't a one-off and that maybe you really have lost.
>>215555826You keep betraying how crazy you are. Good thing it's anonymous, you'd lose any respect anyone had for you.
>>215555837Ok glownigger
>>215555748You know on 4chan it’s totally possible to be replying to multiple different people, right?I’m just saying that the deportations are a fool’s errand
>>215555833No. You live in your safe bubble of lies. You don't trust polls which show how unpopular Trump is. >The entire countryMost of us didn't vote for Trump. More people REFUSED to vote than voted for Trump. REGISTERED voters too.
>>215555794I've met people who entertain nonbinary identities as valid and believe illegals should be given safe harbor. This is a mainstream opinion in my university.
television and film, folks
>>215555873A whole bunch of fucking retards, feds and shills in this thread
>>215555854The argument from the Adam Conover types was the wall would be useless because the illegals are already here.So when Trump makes a decision that is logically derived from that, somehow Democrats are shocked.
>>215555861Consult your polls, they all said everyone hates Trump a year ago too, and every time before that. Every single county in the nation moved further right. Conservative voter registration is surging while Democrat registration is falling. You lost then, and you will lose again, because you simply do not understand the situation. Maybe you will then, I don't know.
>>215555854you have to go back
Jannies pls nuke already
>>215555873Mods are doing nothing, they're all maga themselves so they just let this shit stay up. /pol/ has been sliding the board for months now, they even have generals organizing it on their home board
>>215555889It was useless. And so is this. I believe Trump green-lit giving ICE nearly $1,000,000,000 of tax payer dollars for doing whatever. That’s expensive. Is it that much to rounding up kids in school with brain cancer or gardeners? Probably not. America is being bled dry at the moment
>>2155559161 trillion more debt in the past 5 months, estimates 7.5 more trillion in debt by the time trumps done. And even then there will still be Mexicans for you to hate living among youSeethe more, Cody. You got played again.
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