>BBC confirms future of Doctor Who and a new Christmas Special in 2026https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/2025/doctor-who-future-confirmed-new-christmas-special-2026>Doctor Who will be back on our screens at Christmas 2026 with a special episode written by Russell T Davies.>With Disney+ confirming they will not be partnering on the next season of the sci-fi show, the BBC remain fully committed to the show and will announce plans for the next series in due course to ensure the Doctor’s adventures continue.There's no fucking escape from the big gay Welshman.Prev: >>215488445
>RTD staying onI know the BBC is rife with cronyism but come the fuck onI thought his new channel 4 show was a sign he was on his way out
DOCTOR BOG CHRISTMAS SPECIAL
My wife loves to watch bbc and we don't even have Disney Plus. This is really big news and we cannot wait for the next satisfying series of events on the show. TY bbc. But also fuck the BBC hard for bringing back the show like 2 years later.
They won't cancel it because people like Davies and BBC execs have it in their head that if it gets cancelled then "the bigots win" so the show will just keep limping on like a dying dog
>>215546208>RTD staying on for a Xmas special Yep this sounds like wrapping up his retarded cliffhanger and sending the show into the sunset
>>215546208>Bogged Billie Piper as the next Doctor >Susan returns as a third mystery box old woman in a row It's worse than death
>The War Between the Land and the Sea heading to BBC iPlayer and BBC One later this yearThey still think it's going to make 2025?
>>215546208I hope the Christmas special ends with the Piper Doctor being frozen in time so the show can take another 15 year break.
>>215546208For me, a fan of the show, it's genuinely devastating news that its not dead
>>215547108I don't think Susan is returning, I think RTD burned his bridges with Carole Ann Ford and the mystery he had planned already got binned when Ncuti leftShe seemed really pissed off with him in her recent interview
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>>215547190Link to the recent interview?
>>215547221There's no video of the full interview but here are the relevant excerpts >“You didn’t see the episode which was to sort of introduce my coming back, where I was holding hands with a little — beautiful little tiny black child, three years old. And we were watching through the window somewhere where the audience wasn’t supposed to know where we supposed to be. And we were watching by newly-embodied grandfather, who was now Ncuti [Gatwa], and watching him have a wonderful time singing and dancing in a party in a shop opposite where we were. And obviously I, my character Susan, was longing to just go there and fling her arms around her grandfather and say, ‘Grandfather, how lovely to see you after all this time and how did you survive your floating about in space… and why have you changed?'”>“Anyway, that was unfortunately not to be — for reasons I know and will not disclose,” Ford continued.https://cultbox.co.uk/general/carole-ann-ford-describes-unused-doctor-who-finale-scene
>>215547274>There's no videoHow? It's current year for crying out loud!
>>215546910That also means they have to keep doubling and tripling down on stunt casting instead of sticking to an established formula. It’s the same thing that killed Star Trek. They know what the fans want but refuse to give it to us.
>>215547186Why would you want it to die?
But why isn’t Disney+ renewing their partnership? Weren’t the past two seasons a huge success? They had a gay black man as the doctor. What more could audiences want?
>>215547070The shows not going anywhere unfortunately. The BBC is totally capable of making 2-3 high quality episodes a year by themselves as shown with 14, they just needed Disney for a full season. If no other streaming service picks it up we'll probably be stuck with just a special every Christmas with the occasional 2-3 episode mini arc if we're lucky.
>>215547312>Weren’t the past two seasons a huge success?Is anyone saying this anymore?
>>215547300It was at a con and they weren't allowed to film
>>215547303>They know what the fans wantYes, more RTD!
>>215547304Ever heard of that old adage 'it's better to die a hero rather than live long enough to become the villain'?
>>215547312Disney didn’t lift a finger to promote the show or attract new viewers. The failure of Gatwa is on them just as much as RTD.
>>215547303>They know what the fans wantDAVID TENNANT
>>215547304I assume you've not been following just how bad and then even worse, its gotten?
This special will get ratings up to 10mNormies will see Billie in the adverts an go>ohh billie piper she was brilliant with david tennant wasn't she haha i remember herthen they'll tune in
>>215547387Disney were never interested to begin with, the deal only happened because they wanted to buy streaming rights to Bluey and the BBC included Doctor Who in the deal
HAVE NO FEARSWE'VE GOT STORIES FOR YEARS!
>>215547304You know how people say a show like The Simpsons entered a zombie era. Doctor Who is in a zombie era of zombie era. There is such a clusterfuck of issues. Even if you resolve one you have barely moved the percentage bar in just stabilising the show, let alone making it good or popular again. And beyond all that, you have in place 1) the same guy who heaped on a bunch of issues and never resolved the issues created by the previous fucktard, and 2) all the institutional retardation of the BBC. There is no reasoning to think it can get any better. It is right off. I think most fans feel just sadness at this stage rather than anger as they wrote it off long ago. It is already dead, just is corpse is being prodding.
>>215547387>Disney didn’t lift a finger to promote the showThey did a worldwide marketing campaign, viewing numbers started strong but then RTD immediately scared everyone off with his shit fauxgressive and namedrop-obsessed writing.It's why the series bombed in Blighty as well.
>>215547579Hey, remember when the first of the 60th anniversary specials had David Tennant unironically asking what an alien's pronouns were and saw the day saved by the super special power of non-binary trans magic, and people still had the gall to pretend like everything was alright and that the show had always been like this?
>>215547428It's not even that bad.
>Let ReTarD clean up his shit.>Wait a year or so.>New showrunner.>It's still fucking terrible.>Bring back ReTarD.You just fucking wait.
>>215546910They're fighting a war. A culture war.
>>215546284The show is a poison chalice at this point, since RTD canonized all of the worst aspects of the Chinball era.
>>215547672>2033 - RTD3 returns>the Master comes back as a giant CGI monster>Davros sends Daleks to police asylum seekers housed in military barracks>the companion has no tits or ass>the Doctor is David Tennant
>>215547185Nah, she'll regenerate into David Tennant again or fuse back together with 10-4
>>215547304So we can pretend it ended with Capaldi
>>215547699Any showrunner can just retcon all thatIf fans stuck around for the lore rape of Chibnall then I don't think they would be too miffed by another showrunner doing a massive retcon again, unless they're an ideologue J. Michael Straczynski is practically begging to become the new showrunner
>>215547303>They know what the fans want but refuse to give it to us.More RTD and Tennant.
>>215547317Disney funded 14's eps too, they called for the Star Beast starting off with the exposition dump for new viewers>>215547387They didn't promote the specials much but they did in advance of Ncuti's first season, I saw they bought ads on SNL which is still one of the biggest spots for regular US TV shows, they just cut their losses quick when the viewing figures came in>>215547441Ncuti's regen into Billie barely registered compared to normies compared to when Jodie regenerated into Tennant
>>215547441This. Just like the 60th
>>215547740Why can't he just retire from Doctor Who?
>>215547824Because Doctor Who needs him. You saw how bad things were during the Moffat Era. Thank god Chibnall helped bring things back to the RTD status quo
>Just bring David Tennant back LOLAt this point, sure. Let’s have Tennant play the character until he dies and then use AI to de-age him back to 30 so he can be the Doctor, ageless, forever.
>>215547807>Ncuti's regen into Billie barely registered compared to normies compared to when Jodie regenerated into TennantIt was never confirmed so most people didn't even know it would happen.
>>215547693>I lied to you, because I liked it. I could pretend. Just for a bit, I could imagine the show was still alive, underneath a BBC. I'm not just a Show Runner. I'm the last of the Show Runners. The Base of Fans was wrong. There's no one else.>There was a war. A Culture War. The last Great Culture War. My people fought a race called the Gammons, for the sake of all creation. And they lost. They lost. Everyone lost. They're all gone now. My production company, my boyfriends, even that Bluesky. Oh, you should have seen it, that old show. The second spin-off would rise in the streaming services, and the viewing figures would shine. The progressive messages in the episodes were subtle, and when the Doctor cried every Saturday, it looked like an imaginary, better version of the world summoned forth. When the credits came, the music would blow through the breeze like a novelty song.
>>215547856>You saw how bad things were during the Moffat Era. Thank god Chibnall helped bring things back to the RTD status quoThis gotta be bait
>>215547824Because every time he comes back it reinvigorates his fan-base and he can keep charging a 100k a weekend guarantee at conventions, which he ALWAYS breaks by the way...
>>215546208>Director-General, give me orders. Order me to cancelled. This is not entertaining. This is shit. Order my cancellation!
>>215547964Why would it be bait? The Doctor is back to being the last of the timelords. Gallifrey is destroyed again. Basically we just skip from End of Time to Jodie's run and we missed nothing thankfully
>>215548047Did she steal her hair?
>>215548081but anon it's DOCTOR WHO they finally confirmed that we're actually getting more DOCTOR WHO again don't you just love DOCTOR WHO this is unequivocally a good thing because we're getting more DOCTOR WHO I love DOCTOR WHO DOCTOR WHO DOCTOR WHO DOOOOWEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>215548043This. If we completely ignore things like ratings. RTD and Tennant are the only things making Doctor Who as insanely popular as it is
>>215548119Doctor Who has not been culturally relevant in a decade. Go to any college campus outside of Britain and ask the students if they’re familiar with the show. Odds are they’ve never heard of it. Zoomers have their own culture and Doctor Who is not part of it.
>>215546208>ZESTY doctor who crashes and burnswow, who coulda saw this coming?!who the hell was even asking for a ZESTY Doctor Who anyways? if I had my way you know who I put in there? that's right Gary Oldman but fully in his Slow Horses character
>>215548116I hope they say Allonsy and wear a fez
>>215548198This is also partly true in Britain. Doctor Who is just a subject of mockery among zoomers. The only zoomers I see talk about Doctor Who positively are those chubby quirk chungus girls on Tinder and Bumble.
>>215548232>chubby quirk chungus girls on Tinder and Bumble.did you use your doccy who knowledge on them?
>>215548232>those chubby quirk chungus girls on Tinder and BumbleThese are my fetish.Thank Allah, the most merciful and most high, that I happen to live in a society where they're bountiful.
>>215548224> who the hell was even asking for a ZESTY Doctor Who anyways?RTD is the only one who wanted a flamboyantly gay Doctor. He wanted one 20 years ago but culture wasn’t there yet. So he settled for minor characters like Captain Jack. Then when culture finally caught up, he went overboard and made a homophobic caricature of what a gay Doctor would be like.
>>215548232>are those chubby quirk chungus girls on Tinder and Bumble.And what doctor do they talk about? Exactly
>>215547317>The BBC is totally capable of making 2-3 high quality episodes a year by themselves as shown with 14Are you having a giggle, pun intended? They were shit, and made with Disney too
>>215546208They’re going to ruin this show in ways you haven’t even conceived of yet. They will never let it die with dignity.
>>215546284Oxford old boys club innit
>>215548043Breaks?
>>215547964You’re getting Moff2 after RTD’s inevitable Tennant-Piper-state-Daleks-Cyberman ‘throw the kitchen sink at it’ swan song. No one else in the right mind is going to touch this clapped franchise.
>>215548232Doctor Who peaked in the public consciousness around 2009. It was in steady decline throughout the Smith and Capaldi eras, and then the quality fell off a cliff when Chibnall took over. RTD2 was also a disaster. They should’ve just rested it.
>>215547304Because, if it were a horse, it would’ve been taken to the glue factory in 2017. They keep thinking of new ways to ruin it.
>>215548506The Smith era was the one that took off internationally, especially America.
>>215548506It was even bigger at the end of Smith's run.
>>215548398So a lot of people have been saying Ncuti's best stories are the Andies, that is, praising his two stories with "and" in the title, namely The Story and the Engine and Dot and Bubble. Their quality is said to tower above the rest like the Andes mountain range, hence the name "Andies" as a corruption of this spelling, conjoined to more conventional English spelling.
Reminder that the show has literally never been better.
Hey what's the name of that episode where the Doctor is on the phone again? I really liked that one.
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>>215547774Eter Cad?
>>215548741Not a single person believes this shitBest episodes are Boom and... I don't know that one with the spider maybe?
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>>215548759That graph is categorically untrue
>>215548116Such a good episode, watched it recently for about the 30th time. Infinitely better than Ncitty Ncuti.
>>215548795Do not compare 'Rose' to the kino Alpha Centauri.
>>215548897>Malcom Tucker sees Reform with a double-digit lead in the polls
>>215548833So you're a Greenis fan huh. Cool.
>>215548870It is simply the power of RTD. Praise him.
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>>215548897>>215548932>>215548963kek
Warriors of the Deep > Chibnal
Bollocano!
Moffat was a HORRIBLE showruiner, let's stop pretending otherwise. No WONDER the audience stopped coming back for more. Combined with an old demented geezer and a shoddy ugly bitch "Clala", that spelled the end of the show. As Colin Baker would have it, "Not a fuckin moment too soon".
It's insane to me that this poster is still around after all this time.
>>215549036>Jenna Coleman>uglyJust say you're gay and save us all some time.
8 > 10Charley > RoseLucie > DonnaTV Movie > The Christmas InvasionThe Chimes of Midnight > MidnightSolitaire > The GiggleScherzo > Wild Blue YonderThe Girl Who Never Was > DoomsdayTo the Death > Journey's EndThe Night of the Doctor > The End of Time
>>215549058Which one?
>>215549089PDA > VNA > EDA > audios > old who > new who
>>215549089based 8th anon is still here
>>215546208Sack Russel T. Davis.
doctor who has never been good.
doctor who has never been bad.
>>215549036This. Thank god Chibnall came in and ignored all of that shit
Doctor Who has never been good or bad it has always been mediocre
>>215549199Take my upvote!
RTD is fuck offerino amazing!
>>215549108PDA? EDA? What do they mean?
Will RTD’s last ever episode be any good?
>>215546284He's gotta stay on because he's the only one that can "fix" the mistake he made.No other writer will wanna touch the mess he's left the show in until that's sorted
>>215549257https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Past_Doctor_Adventureshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Doctor_Adventures
>>215549218doctor who has never been good.doctor who has never been bad.doctor who has never been mediocre.doctor who has always been doctor who.
>>215547304So RTD can't write for it anymore
>>215546208Which Doctor has the biggest penis?
>>215549257It means they have autism, like you!
One of these days Tom Baker is actually going to die and /who/ will miss it because Doctor Who is dead.
>>215549289Can we stop with this now? Over three years of this coming up again and again, and for WHAT? Stop it, just stop it.
>>215549254Be careful what you wish for. The next showrunner could be worse.
>>215549297Bit mean.>>215549330Why?
>>215549313RIP."I'll always remember when the Doctor was me."1934 - 2025im crying
>>215549335Pretty sure everyone's already accepted that the Kablam guy is next in line for showrunner.
>>215549227Thank you kids sir, xir, or madam.Chibnall gets way too much hate imho and while his first series wasn't great he managed to turn everything around the next series with bringing back the master, and captain Jack, and destroying gallifrey, and making the doctor FUN again
>>215549352Kerblam! It's Pete McTighe, a man who is incapalbe of criticising any episodes. He can only praise them all. Even Gatiss would be an improvement on him. Even Gatiss...
>>215549313Tom Baker is one of the reasons Doctor Who is as dead as it is
>>215549345It's past your bedtime.
>>215549335Literally nothing can be worse than forcing the show to go back to 2005 and doing shit like space babies
>>215549382Very unique bitrate!
>>215549377He wrote the great Lucky Day.>>215549379What did he do wrong?
COMING CHRISTMAS 2026ROSE TYLER, MEETS THE FOURTEENTH DOCTOR AND DONNA NOBLE
>>215549414>What did he do wrong?He was the classic era David Tennant
>>215549377His episode last series was sort of bland, but not offensively bad. Bland would be an improvement on the last few years, but not enough to save the show. With the BBC being such a closed shop, I wouldn't even be surprised if Moffat comes back.
>>215549393It's only 18:40.
>>215549427Not his fault really. Blame Gwilliams.
>>215549417Martha Jones may get a name drop somewhere possibly
>>215549394Space Babies is way worse than any story from 2005. Even the farting aliens ones were better. Eccleston’s charisma carried that series.
>>215549417He is so narcissistic that he would actually do this.
>>215549432It was fucking shit and still maybe best of the year. That's how bad things have gotten. Putting him in charge would make the show a complete mess, even more forced positivity and no one allowed to say no, even more diversity and inclusivity than ever before. No thank you.
Will Carole Ann Ford actually live long enough to film anything for the 2026 special, or she back to being blacklisted by the BBC for mentioning her cut scenes and Russ's original ending?
>>215549436You're an underage cunt and should not post here. Leave.
>>215549488>back to being blacklistedwtf. She never was, retard. Just like Ecclestone.
>>215549493I am 23.
>>215549475Can it be worse than RTD? He was ok in 2005 but he’s not the same writer any more. Like he’s fully lost the plot now.
>>215549488Honestly, I'd rather we not see Susan again. We dodged a bullet that we lost the original ending of TRW with Susan being revealed as Poppy's daughter.Ncuti left and so RTD did a ton of rewrites and that scene was junked, thank god.
>>215549377I do not think Gatiss is that bad. Most of his contributions are more middling or so so rather than terrible. At the very least Gatiss actually fucking likes Doctor Who. Also, Gatiss, who is gay, does not seem to buy into all the woke shit:>The writer of Doctor Who has revealed how he protested against the “colour blind” casting of a black actor as a Victorian soldier in the BBC show.>Mark Gatiss said he was uneasy about a “brilliant young black actor” being cast as one of the soldiers, because “there weren’t any black soldiers in Victoria’s army”.>He put the decision down to the BBC’s drive to become “more representational and make everything less homogeneously white”.>Gatiss described the “very difficult” email he sent to a colleague explaining his feelings on the matter. It was only after he discovered records showing that there was in fact a single black soldier in Victoria’s army, that he accepted the decision.
>>215549493You're new here, aren't you?
>>215549520And still a virgin (like all dr who fans). Leave.
>>215549542>And still a virginWhat's wrong with that?
>>215549529And out it comes, the old Victorian black text again. Every. Fucking. Thread. We've all read this hundreds of times, we get it. Yes, Gatiss is a shit writer, nothing can change that. He's never written a good episode and now he never can. McTighe is a better choice.
>>215549456Aliens of London/WW3 is the best story of Eccles cake's era
>>215549556Embarrassing but expected.
>>215549488Remainder they brought back a confused dementia suffering William Russell - just straight-out elder abuse.
They should rehire Neil Gaiman so we can finally get a straight sexpest for a showrunner
>>215549576Nu-uh, it's The Long Game.
>>215549576Weird way to spell "The Empty Child".
>>215549591How do you know he had dementia?
am i the only one who watches eccles every day? just clips from my files. like if you do too.
>>215549625Eccles was kino
>>215549625No because he's not the best Doctor.
>>215549638Remind me why again?
>>215549602Long Game is bad purely because Adam is in it.>>215549603It's good but not the best1. Aliens of London/WW32. Bad Wolf/Parting of the Ways3. Rose4. Boom Town5. Empty Child/DD6. Father's Day7. Dalek8. Unquiet Dead8. Long Game9. End of the World
>>215549718A splendid example of bait! Thank you.
>>215549718Adam was a great character.
So Russell's getting 1 Christmas special to try and unfuck the ending of his era? Unless he somehow manages to haggle for a new year special as well, I don't see all the mistakes he's made being sorted out in 1 singular episode.And I can't even watch the shitshow in cinema this time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8wwnKfpNREs
>>215549727>>215549731ooh i feel so good when people reply, now i see why 4chan is a awesome website!
>>215549744Who is the Doctor going to be?
Friendly reminder that Susan is Poppy's daughter because the doctor having kids makes him old and unfuckable
>>215549754Piper.
>>215549754Who else but David Tennant. Him and Billie Piper already alluded to the idea of working on something Dr Who related again at a con
>>215549727I'm not baiting and will defend my positions>>215549731He's not and on rewatching Dalek recently he really brings that story down
>I warned you this would happen, back in 2004. I warned you, but you didn't care to hear. Well, hear it now: I want them removed from canon. RTD1 and RTD2 both, and that fool Chibnall as well. Is that plain enough for you? I want the revival retconned!
>>215549758Deleted scenes aren't canon
Friendly reminder that tv is dead, everyone just watches vertical crap on their phones and browses social media. In 100 years, doctor who will be only a few AI images of police boxes. (and that's a good thing)
>>215549771Is that even confirmed?
>>215549754Tennant. How is this even a question
>>215549786Explain why AoL > Parting of the Ways then.
>>215549798>AIRemind me of this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLQMK2ciZ_8
>>215549792Aren't canon YET but RTD just got himself a Christmas special and a whole new series
>>215549801Jane Tranter in an interview rebutting Robert Shearman's suggestion that the show is deader than it's ever been, said that Rose Tyler is returning
>>215549803Because it's a bait and you're a newfag. It's Piper btw.
>>215549818The Parting of the Ways has a gay ending.
>>215549838Piper until she regenerates into Tennant or fuses back together with 14
>>215549744I want to chill with the Third Doctor
>>215549834Just to appease idiots who don't know what recasting is. Piper btw.
>>215549834>SACK JANE TRANTER
I want to chill with the 11th Doctor.
>>215547274>how did you survive your floating about in space… and why have you changed?'”RTD must have also scrapped the "Susan gets dementia and starts forgetting the Doctor is a semi-immortal alien" plotline
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>>215549889Mac users gtfo.
>>215549744The wording of the announcement makes it sound like he's got a new series out of it as well, or he's at least handing over to a new showrunner (probably McTige or Juno Dawson) before then
Susan will return but she'll be a CGI monster who has very little in common with her original character aside from the name.
people say Who is dead but one tiny bit of "news" and suddenly everyone's posting again. Doctor Who is so amazing, so proud of this community.
>>215549933>Juno DawsonDo we really want a trans showrunner?
Can we move on from Rose already? I loved her in her prime on the show but seeing them trot out this bogged monstrosity for member berries constantly is tiresome.
>>215549959No but with the way xhe is being shilled everywhere despite being an utter dogshit writer there's a very high chance it'll happen
>It's Christmas 2026>Russell's finally released his magnum opus>A Christmas special reuniting Billie Piper and David Tenant on screen again after 16 years>Russell of course doesn't recognise Billie or David's stint in Day of the Doctor as he deems all Moffat work not within his own era as non canon>Fourteen is injured, dying of his wounds. Unable to regenerate proper thanks to the Toymaker cutting his regenerations into two and Fifteen being his own better self.>But our lord and saviour, Rose Tyler. Using the fact Fifteen deleted himself from existence to insure a nurse was forced to raise his child, let his regeneration cycle flow into the ether. Breaking through time and space through timey wimey wibbly wobbly mavity buzzwords and jibberish, bringing forth the Bad Wolf who collected his regeneration cycle>This allows Rose Tyler, the Bad Wolf to merge the regeneration cycle back into Fourteen, allowing Fourteen to directly regenerate into a new Fifteen, who's actually sixteen, but also David Tennant.>Russ in all his amazing writing skills decides this is the perfect time to walk on screen and describe the the love Rose Tyler and the Doctor share and how their bond is unbreakable and how they'll spend the rest of time travelling together as they should have always done.>He's fully aware the show will be cancelled by this act, but that's what he always wanted
If you play all Eccleston eps at the same time and listen closely, at one point you hear "Rose this is a smell by the Pete mummy dancing Welsh normal exterminate". Strange, no?
>>215549969McTighe actually has experience with showrunning and has written multiple episodes already as well as being the creator of the upcoming spinoff. It's him.
>>215549899would actually be kino desuhe would've done it in the Torchwood era
Doctor Who is shit.
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>>215549998Dawson has written several successful books and champions diversity, inclusion and a spirit of fun adventure over everything. It's xher.
>>215549818Aliens of London/WW3 is everything nuWho should have been. Tightly written, all the main cast acting very well, believable and unique baddies. The tension builds up nicely in the first episode and the explosive ending is great. The scene where they're trying to work out who the Slitheen are is the best written scene in series 1. RTD also canonically kills of Tony Blair.BW/Parting of the Ways is also very good. The Weakest Link stuff is my favourite bit, but all the worldbuilding is top tier. There's unfortunately a lot of lame plot armour where the Doctor and Rose stand around a lot not being killed by the Daleks after they'd just gone on a killing spree. And the Dalek twist being spoiled in Boom Town's next time trailer did sour me on first viewing when it aired.
>>215547274Honestly I feel like the best time for Carol to come back would've been the Moffat era. Maybe during Capaldi's run, but then again the only season she might've fitted in was Capaldi's last and that season was already focused on trying to develop the Master and the Doctors relationship again
>>215549790>Doctor Who>1963-200542 years. that's a very good number.
>>215550025>tightly writtenOh yes, adding all those scenes into both parts to help fill up the runtime to 43 minutes (still underunning btw) certainly made it very tight.>believable baddiesSure thing bud.>tension builds up nicelyTakes a very long time to start building up and then when it does, takes literally 5 minutes just doing that and nothing else, way too long and slow, it could've all been one part.>scene where they're trying to work out who the Slitheen are... is shit. Why the fuck would Rose suddenly say about the slipstream engine, and Maggie Thatcher or whatever that bitch is mentions the pig. Nothing to do with it as far as she knows, in fact she doesn't even know it was a pig, does she? Wtf Russel. Horrible horrible dialogue, cringe forced humour. "Lots of planets have a north" AGAIN. Fucks sake.Parting of the Ways is actually everything it should have been.
>>215549998Have you seen any of his Discovery of Witches? It was fucking shite. McTighe getting the show will end it forever
>>215549960>Can we move on from Rose already?You clearly don't understand the purpose of RTD2
>>215549978>as he deems all Moffat work not within his own era as non canonAs do we all
>>215550058Capaldi's the only nu-who Doctor who could make trying to explain abandoning your granddaughter in an alternate timeline and not going back to check in on her for hundreds of years not sound silly desu.Half the reason I feel Susan was wasted on Gatwa despite all the behind the scenes mess that's clearly gone on and Carol not being happy about it.Gatwa wasn't the type of actor who could pull the emotion you need of coming to terms with what you did and seeing someone after so long.No one but Russell would want Gatwa walking up to a 85 year old lady and going.>Babes, I'm sorry I let you down. But I'm here now, give me the love!
>>215550146What is the purpose then?
>>215549790Carl from Liverpool for showrunner
>>215550204The purpose is as it has been since series 12. To set Doctor Who back to the glort days of RTD1 and have it stay there forever.>Rose>Last of the Timelords>Doctor is Space Jesus>Doctor is young and single because his only love is Rose>Gallifrey is destroyed
>>215550204RTD gets to continue write the characters he invented and feels comfortable the most writing, while also trying to write a new version of the Doctor and companions based on what he wanted to see during his original tenure but wasn't allowed to back then and companions he believes appeals to the modern generation.Ultimately his attempts at writing a Doctor who he wanted to see in Gatwa failed and his new companions were cycled out so swiftly he's gonna fall back on a companion he's more comfortable writing in Rose Tyler because reviews of the 60th anniversary specials among fans have been less criticised compared to his season 1.
>>215550204How did Wheel in Space end again?"Ever heard of the Ouroboros?""No.""Then watch RTD2."
>>215550303Wild Blue Yonder was honestly great, the last great episode, and I liked The Giggle somewhat. Last two series were mostly shit.
>>215547534i wouldn't even call it a zombie era. zombie eras are bland but inoffensive, this is just more Rian Johnson type stuff where they go out of their way to find socially acceptable ways to piss off the audience and generate controversy to try to advertise the show but then hide behind the social cause they use as the explanation for why they made the show worse, on purpose. it's not just lazily pumping out slop to collect a paycheck, it's actively antagonizing your audience and leaving the franchise in a worse place than when you left it for completely self serving reasons. i would take 10 seasons of zombie Who over whatever the fuck the show has been since the last Moffat season where every episode has to have some kind of social commentary jab aimed at its primary audience.>>215547778i would only rewatch the show again and regularly engage in the franchise financially when a showrunner explicitly retcons those elements and apologizes on behalf of the show and BBC and admits they were a mistake. start back from the 13th Doctor again or don't start back at all.
Do not post here if you have autism like this user:>>215550407
>>215550350>Wild Blue Yonder was honestly great>Forced us to suffer through "mavity" for the rest of the shows runYeah no fuck you and anyone who liked that shit
Imagine trying to get into Doctor Who as a new fan in 2025. It’s almost impossible. Not like Star Trek where you can say “Start with TNG or TOS and jump around wherever you want.” There have been so many retcons and entry points. It’s not even worth the headache.
Personally I think Russell should stop hiring old ladies for all his important character roles when they're a ticking clock
>>215550441FUCK OFF ERINO.Anyone can just start with Rose or The Eleventh Hour or whatever the hell they want. FUCK OFF with this bullshit. Shit Trek will never be anything as good as Who.
Ncuti > Tennant
>>215550442Moffat did much the same.
>>215549820ai perfectly captured the english constantly bobbing their heads when they talk like retards. they really are insufferable.
>>215550441It's not that bad desu. The main problem is either you got to tell them to stop just as Jodie shows up or just let them know from Jodie onwards the narrative becomes a mess that isn't even fun
>>215550494Do not respond to the troll. Do not engage.
>>215550442Moffat has set the precedent that he can just recast them with lookalikes/impersonators. and BF has been using that precedent for years now.
>>215550503Posted this in a wrong thread and now it ain't letting me delete it
>>215549529i think he'd be fine if they would just split the show runner/script supervisor roles again. let Gatiss run the show and make sure everything has the right 'texture' and find someone like Moffat to oversee the scripts - not write them himself, just make sure the writers are doing things right, understand the characters, how to avoid doing time travel poorly, that kind of thing.i don't think Gatiss has ever been a particularly good writer and i don't think Moffat has another 5/6 whatever seasons in him, but i bet he'd be fine overseeing other writers and working with Gatiss to produce the show. >>215549744i think it goes back to the issue of the franchise being radioactive, there is no one with the qualifications/credits that the BBC would feel comfortable handing off the show to so they're going to have to cope with some very small name and hope for the best. letting the show go off the air would mean the chuds win after all and we can't have that, let's just triple down.
>>215550531No one cares retard. It's still a better post than 97% of them here.
>>215550549Good idea. Maybe the BBC should hire you!
Doctor Who should have never become a women. He's a male character. It's like making James Bond into Jane Bond. It just doesn't work
>>215550611I'll take the role. I'll take after Russell and let all the best stories of my era be either adaptions of EU material, or written by better writers.
>>215550639The failure of Woman Who will at least dissuade them from ever making a female Bond.
>>215550611you joke but legit any fan could do a better job than Chibs and RTD2 together at this point, even a teenager could come up with more compelling story arcs than "how do we do [memberberries] but make it black and gay and trans"
>>215550639yeah, no problem with turning him into a wimp sóyboy, as long as he's still a (nu-)male
>>215550705Joke?
>>215550639This was at the peak of woke madness where every male led franchise was being given over to woman to ruin.
>>215550639Curse of Fatal Death and Missy show that it works in theory, i just don't think it works in current year. they want to do it but not have any fun with the concept, they just want to do it to lecture the audience.>>215550703no it won't because even if it tanks the franchise not doing it would prove the chuds right. they'll do 6 black woman 007 films and no matter how badly they perform they're a huge success and so important.
>>215550101> McTighe getting the show will end it foreverThe show isn’t going to end anytime soon. Everyone can see it’s been a corpse since Christmas Day 2017, but the BBC is still desperately defibrillating it.
>>215550850No more posting tonight, ok? You've done enough damage.
Here's your Doctor for the Xmas special.
Why does Doctor Who attract so many mentally ill retards?
>>215550101why was it bad though? bad writing or obnoxiously woke/preachy? because the show has been both for almost a decade at this point so not pushing culture war shit would be an improvement.
Good News Everyone! The Nimon are returning
>>215550937She looks like a barrel of laughs.
>>215550938Doctor Who is a show for straight white males which exclusively attracts autists. I guarantee every poster in this thread has Asperger's at the least. As a result none of the posters have any self-awareness, social skills, or emotional intelligence, and are therefore incapable of the following:>relating to anybody else>understanding anybody else's point of view >accepting the existence of any opinion contrary to their own>acknowledging any personal fault or failing >changing their minds or developing an idea in any way>ever growing as a person/who/ is a self-made hell for society's most worthless dregs. It needs no demons or lakes of fire because its inhabitants will forever torment each other.I also guarantee that everybody that reads this will think to themselves, "yeah! That describes every / who/ poster perfectly - except me, of course. I'm nothing like the others!"
>>215550957Still trying to take the credit for the Angels I see. Did enough of that back in 07. Time for bed RTD.
>>215550957>russelltdavies63>hmm, yes I DID create the show back in 1963
>>215550948>Pete McTighe wrote the Doctor Who television episode Kerblam! and co-wrote Praxeus with Chris Chibnall. Under Russell T Davies' second run of the show, he wrote Lucky Day.>Infamously, [Lucky Day] is the least viewed and lowest rated in the shows 62 year history, with an only 1.5 million viewership overnight.oh
>>215550957>Hark the Weeping Angels Sing.Russell, do you really wanna be referencing an invention from a better writer?
>>215550998That's when he was born, retard.
>>215550938It's campy crap that's shot like a kindergarten play, only people that can enjoy it are severe autists who find it entertaining to fill in the blanks of clunkiness of the show and pretend they're watching an ingenious space fantasy.
>>215550983What you say is the truth. Unfortunately, the people running the show are the exact same type of autist, and without anyone to check their behavior, you get RTD's second run.
>>215551013RTD is a better writer than Moffat, actually.
>>215550983>straight white males>autistsAutism is one of the causes of sexual deviancy, autists are often not straight at all. Every other furfag is an autist. All those people with odd Deviantart fetishes are autistic.
>Nimon>Weeping Angels.Oh, so it's gonna be another parasite themed Xmas special I see Russell.Nick Frost is gonna have to dress up as Santa again and save Doctor Who from the parasite that is RTD
>>215551046Less likely to mate, at least.
>>215550957dis nigga for real...
>>215551037Incorrect.
>>215550995>>215551013It was during his era they belong to him! Just like K9, Sarah Jane, The Family of Blood, Omega, The Rani, and Sutek
>>215550983>Doctor Who is a show for straight white males which exclusively attracts autists.Then the show should focus on that audience rather than trying to capture the mythical modern audience.
>>215551022>I DID create it! IN MY CRIB!
>>215551037This. Moffat never wrote anything like Space Babies
Favourite Doctor? Mine's Cushing.
>>215551066Wrong.>>215551102Lol I'm so used to seeing the words "Space Babies" as a pejorative that I thought just by mentioning it, you were saying RTD was worse. It's hard to think of anyone using it as an example of good writing.
>>215549112Why are TV shows so bad at fights
jnt was a lot worse than rtd. a lot.
>>215551183As a sex pest maybe, but not running the show.
Wiles was the worst.
>Ncuti's run as the doctor - 18 months>Time between the last episode and the 2026 special - 19 monthsBillie Piper has officially been the doctor longer than Ncuti
>>215551239She's not actually the Doctor though. Keep watching!
>>215551146>It's hard to think of anyone using it as an example of good writing.Doctor who has always been first and foremost a children's show. Space Babies should be the norm not the exception
>>215551239That's of course if they don't add a last minute scene to TWBTLAS while they were reshooting for the series finale to confirm Piper's Rose
>>215551164Because the actors themselves can't fight. Like you could have them do a two week bootcamp and choreograph the scene properly, but that sounds expensive and oh look let's just cut away after every punch.
Can't stop rewatching series 57 on iPlayer, god episode 5 is good. I set them as my alarm cock nowadays, oh yeah baby.
>>215551263Family show :)Drama department :)
>>215548310>He wanted one 20 years ago but culture wasn’t there yet>he went overboard and made a homophobic caricature DESU pal friendo The Doctor always seemed to be a fag with his weird asexual relationships with 'companions' and both Matt Smith and David Tennant (aka the popular ones) were written and acted real fucking fey - so where does that leave you if you want to make "a gay doctor"? It leaves you a fucking clown performance is what. Surprised he wasn't wearing a fucking rainbow flag suit at that.
>>215551284>alarm cockOh I've seen that one
>>215551335Yeah, wakes me up and serves me breakfast in one.
>>215551183The biggest issues with the JNT era come down to the BBC actively trying to kill the show and Eric Saward as script editor. With the BBC you have them: 1) giving the show barely any money, especially in an era where inflation meant they in real terms had even less to work with; 2) trying to kill it in the scheduling; and 3) forcing JNT to stay on with the threat if he resigned the show would be cancelled. With Saward the guy was an edgelord who both behind the scenes and publicly unproductively clashed with JNT. I am not saying JNT did not have problems in creative decisions but, the guy was actually pretty good in managing the behind production stuff in a difficult era and he managed to stabilise the show from the freefall that was S17. If JNT left when Davison left he would be far better remebred.
>>215551360A men.com classic
>We are delighted that RTD agreed to write us another spectacular Christmas special...Who else was gonna write it?No one wants to touch the show currently until Russell concludes his fuck up
Now that the show isn’t cancelled, I’m genuinely curious to see how much worse it can get from here.
>>215549959The next Doctor will be trans. If the show had gone on ice for 15 years, this probably wouldn't have be the case. During the current political climate, however, it’s the only box they haven’t yet ticked.
>>215551514only if the next Master is trans because so far that's how they ease the audience into this stuff. first the Master gets a stunt casting, and then the next era the Doctor follows suit.
>>215549591Should have had him cameo in the 50th anniversary, i think most people would be fine with that being his last appearance
>>215551514there's already a tranny characterDoctor is already technically "trans" anyway by the sheer fact of being able to regenerate into a female form
>>215550168Capaldi even seemes interested in having a Susan story, iirc the one scene where 12 looks at a picture of Susan was Capaldia input
>>215551616He wanted one but like the Peter Jackson episode it just never happened
>>215551616yeah he referenced it a bit as well, there's some video of him doing an appearance at some event for kids in character and one of the kids asks him something and he went onto this whole thing about how he left Susan behind and he'd like to reunite with her one day.
Bold choice to bring back Planet of the Incels for the 2026 Christmas Special, but I have faith in RTD making it work
>>215549978THE DO 3HT
>>215546208imagine your dogshit being so woke that DISNEY rejects it kek. some exec got a preview.
>>215551367>remebredLol everything you said is discounted because of this.
>>215551708There's nothing RTD can't do
>>215551583Correct.
Even the shittiest Star Trek is much better than Doctor Whoke.
>>215547186Same.
>>215551037I don't care if Moffat made a cringe Sherlock adaptation. He didn't make something as pointless as Bi-Regeneration because he forgot the basic premise of the show.
>>215551927What is the premise of the show?
>>2155519531. travel space and time2. fuck bitches3. acquire currency
>>215551973You are an idiot.
Post the picture that best sums up Doctor Who!
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>>215552028fuck off
i love doctor who i love 4chan i love posting memes i love trashing rtd i love rumours i love hating new stuff i love doctor who i love 4chan i love posting memes i love trashing rtd i love rumours i love hating new stuff
>>215552109lol so funny that's so funny haha funny that's so lolly i am laughing at this haha cos it's funny and that is lol memes are funny cats are fun lol haha funny lol so funny rtd lol funny so funny so lol so haha i am lol laughing at this lol laughing at lol the cats funny
GREENIS
oh shit greenis is coming back. HOLY SHIT THIS IS NOT A DRILL REPEAT THIS IS NOT A DRILL GREENIS IS BACK!!! @_@
>>215552109funny laughing so lol lol funny i haha lol so funny funny haha at am cats that's cats memes funny so that's haha at so rtd this lol lol haha so funny funny is funny lol cos lol so are laughing lolly funny at lol and it's that the fun am i are this lol so laughing funny
>>215552109cats eating i at lol so funny funny cats memes funny laughing haha so is fun at lol biscuits at haha it's so pawprint memes vomit laughing funny am lol funny are that's cats i lolly funny funny this that lol lol so lol laughing lol am rtd so haha so funny that's lol and funny are lol cos funny haha so this the
>>215552109haha at biscuits haha lol haha pawprint lol lol lol funny are funny funny laughing funny that's memes cats so at rtd funny so so that's lol funny funny and this so funny lol i vomit funny laughing funny is the so it's at lol cos eating so lol memes am lolly i so laughing cats this fun are that lol cats am haha
>>215552109haha at biscuits funny funny and this so funny lol lol lol lol funny are funny funny laughing funny that's memes cats so at rtd funny so so that's lol i so laughing cats this fun i vomit funny laughing funny is the so it's at lol cos eating so lol memes am lolly haha lol haha pawprint lol are that lol cats am haha
Great thread! I am posting to say how good this thread is. 4chan is a good website as the posts on this thread demonstrate, showing charm, humour, sarcasm and wit in strong measure.
>>215550972There’s no reason this couldn’t work so long as they didn’t 1) Make the fact she’s BLACK WOMAN the most important thing about her or her stories (I mean, how many time traveling KKK can there really be in the universe?) 2) Not focus on her sexuality (because nobody wants to imagine that naked) and ESPECIALLY not make her a lesbianBut there’s no way they wouldn’t do those things so, yeah, it can’t work.
>>215552407Sure thing!Very good ideas from anonymous. You make a lot of good points, worth considering and making good comebacks to, which other anonymous users will be apt to do in the coming moments. Keep reading and posting!
/who/ has never been better. (except 2014 - 2015, over a decade ago. god i miss the old whosers.
>>215552654Too bad it's dead now
when will neo come back? immigrant? cats? nilso? ingiga? tomtit? cloister? n8? god i miss the 2010s.
regenerate
we all do. we all do.who is over. wish i couldve been here in the golden days of 2014.
>>215552870we all do. everyone here carries a sad knowledge that the best times are behind us, back when literally hundreds of people came here to chat. now it's just a few sad robots reminiscing to the sky. god i miss the 2010s.
we all do. everyone reading this is a loser and has wasted their life. ya gotta laugh cos what else is there
>>215547304RTD either can´t write anymore or he never could and all the magic always depended on Moffat. At any rate the show´s been dead for like a decade. Ever since Capaldi made it to Gallifrey it was never the same, in fact, even that season was quite weak and felt rushed. They could have certainly extended the return home for 10 years or so. Some people could have probably tolerated the show becoming an aimless adventure of the week show but the writing quality really took a dive as well during Capaldi last season and specially during Jodie´s. The adventures became dull, the dialogues became preachy and lost all subtlety and cleverness... and you know, the Doctor basically does two things, he talks and he runs. If you fuck those things up you have no show. And, as if that was not enough, they started to retcon stuff and ruin arcs for cheap gimmicks. Like they undid Donna´s "death" just to make a speech about gender identity and stuff like that which are a big no no for storytelling. The message should never take precedence over the plot.
>>215552963ya gotta laugh.
>>215552850time enough
if you are reading this, you are a confirmed virgin and a loser.
>>215546208>Billie Pipe 'erDon't mind if I do
>>215552991
we all do.
ah I see the mentally ill attention seeker showed back up and newfags gave him that attention he craved as usual
we'll do.
