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>>215556134I honestly don't really like the original Tron. People harp on about how Legacy and Ares have dumb plots but then what does that make the plot of the first movie?
I don't really care about tron
>>215556231Forgot to mention I've seen Ares in theaters 6 times already, I really like it
How did everyone go from admitting that Legacy's protag was shit to claiming Ares not continuing his story is bad?
I really can't. If Tron as a franchise gets retired at least it does so having no bad movies.>>215556336Because Sam is more sovlfvl than any modern protagonist and honestly he really wasn't that bad in the first place
>>215556134I would use this image instead, but yeah they're all pretty good movies
>>215556134Why did Ares flop this much when pretty much everyone that watched it thought it was good? That movie should have a great word-of-mouth a become a sleeper hit.
Legacy hard mogs the others and I'll die on this hill
>>215557136because it doesn't matter if the people who see it like it if almost nobody sees it
that they're all bad films? no i cannot
>>215557136I think it came out at a weird time, maybe would have done better during summer. Also the trailers and marketing wasn't very good.
Tron has always fucking sucked
>>215557181In the summer it would have been crushed by all the capeshit and dinoshit, it would have flopped even harder.Disney wouldn't have released it the same period as Lilo & Stitch which cleared an easy bil and F4 (which was a failure but they couldn't have anticipated that).
>>215556134Ares isn't the terrible movie the critics say it is, but it feels like it's a sequel to Ascension and we're missing a whole movie of context that they clumsily skipped through with the opening crawl.
>>215557348DEI marketing and producers. Disconnected from the reality of their product. Going through motions set forth by their elders, challenging convention in the office, not challenging consumers' tastes with new offerings.
>>215556134Unfortunately OP I have eyes, ears, and a brain
>>215556336Sam and Quora's inclusion would had made a better story then awkwardly replacing them with some Asian chick with a vaguely similar dynamic as Sam so she can be good at motorcycles and be sad about her family while holding a macguffin that would make more sense as being part of Quora.
>>215557136Tron has never been a big smash hit franchise sadly. Also a bunch of retards saw that marketing bit where Mrbeast is riding a lightcycle and swore up and down that he would be in the movie so they boycotted it. Spoiler alert, he's not.
>>215556134A horse burning to death because they all flopped?
>>215557515Except nothing makes sense if you just replace Eve with Sam, given that Sam has been in the grid before and knows how it all works. No matter what the 3rd movie needed a new character to get isekai'd. In an alternate universe maybe it's Tron's user (who even remembers his name?)
>>215557573>Maybe it's Tron's userFunnily, they actually used that concept in Tron 2.0. But Bruce Boxleitner had already checked out of Tron when they cancelled Uprising.
Is it bad that I had the hots for Greta Lee the entire time she was on screen despite her objectively being a yellow 40yo hag pan-faced gook? Usually I don't care for Korean women that much. I was even sort of hoping Jared Leto would give her the cult leader BWC and cuck the breakfast burrito man.
>>215557666She walked a fine line of being cute but also stoic looking. She's believable as some gigacorp leader and some chill friend
>>215557553But it is a very nice horse.
See you guys in another 15 years when they make a sequel.:(
>>215557573>Except nothing makes sense if you just replace Eve with Sam, given that Sam has been in the grid before and knows how it all works.At what point did she not understand what was going on? She was barely surprised at all when she entered the grid and never seemed to be confused or question anything that happened to or around her. Her reaction to getting pulled into the grid was basically just the standard reaction someone would have to being apprehended and imprisoned by some bad guy. I mean, I get it, the world of Tron Ares is one where they freely print infinite mass from the grid and carry around isekai lasers for the express purpose of pulling people into the grid, so it seems like just about everyone has been to the grid and knows exactly what it is. But that brings me to my main point: Why the fuck do you need a new character when the new character isn't going to be shocked or surprised or even slightly disoriented by anything that happens? You may as well just use an established character the audience actually cares about and can root for. Eve was so painfully undeveloped as a character, it's as if the writers originally did use Sam and then slotted in this nobody in the 11th hour without rewriting her in a way that actually introduces and endears her to the audience.
>>215557573>Except nothing makes sense if you just replace Eve with Sam, given that Sam has been in the grid before and knows how it all worksEve's story the whole time is just trying to find the permanence code, and then once she finds it trying to keep it out of Dillinger's hands. You can easily make that Sam's story by saying something something Quora needs a system update that is the permanence code to continue existing outside the grid, and then pretty much everything else can proceed the same way.
>>215557814She's not given any time to react in the moment. It's when she's explaining to the indian guy when she finally breaks down a bit and reflects on the crazy events
Only the second one was good.
>>215557814>is one where they freely print infinite mass from the gridThis is related to an issue that bugged me in the real world sequences in the fact vehicles off the grid are still able to function when it's heavily implied that the reason they're able to defy physics is because of the server hosting them doing all the heavy lifting. The lightcycles and recognizers should be running out of power in seconds because they don't have an ambient source of energy tried to their reality to make up for the insane amounts of power needed to project a jetwall or keep their brick-esque frame aloft.
>>215557934Don't look her up now
>>215558001I was bugged by this before the movie came out too but then I reflected that the whole premise of scanning people into and out of a digital world is pretty bongos anyway. I rationalize it by saying Dillinger's programs can produce real-world viable designs for shit like lasers because they just can.
>>215556134Name of the films?
>>215558001I think that's just you interpreting differentlyAll the grid vehicles and stuff can function on their own "offline" except for those drones from the recognizer. The only thing the laser creations receive from the grid server is wifi basically. So you can still drive a light cycle offline but not connect to the server.This is somewhat related to the misinterpretation that people have that vehicles printed into the real world NEED to be connected in order to exist at all. This is clearly shown to be not true at the end of the boss fight but some people still missed that and come to the wrong conclusion that Dillinger could have at any time pressed a button and killed Ares remotely. I think this misconception largely comes from the trailer which heavily suggested that.
>>215558115The Force AwakensThe Last JediThe Rise of Skywalker
>>215557934It was the worst one ngl but I didn't see it in theatres
>>215557934I admit Legacy is the best movie overall but Ares has too many aura and hype moments Legacy had to do the heavy lifting with world building and Ares just had to be cool and it does it well
>>215556134bottom looks more like a horse than a tron
>>215556134I love how one of the least accessible franchises of all time is made by Disney.
>>215557928>something something Quora needs a system update that is the permanence code to continue existing outside the gridThe permanence code in Ares is represented by a DNA double helix, which is also the imagery used to signify what's unique about ISOs in Legacy. To me, that implies the permanence code is tied to whatever seed of Flynn's coding that the ISOs evolved out of (the "human element" in the code, so to speak). It would be very easy to tell a story where someone figures that out and then decides to try hunting down Quorra because she's the last ISO and extract that code from her in a process that will likely destroy her. Flynn could have some secret copy of the code hidden away somewhere that would allow them to make duplicates without killing Quorra, which allows the good guys to still get the code and change the world after Quorra is saved.Using Sam and Quorra even improves the setup for the plot. You could show Sam trying to print things from the grid and getting frustrated because it all disintegrates in 29 minutes, even though Quorra was printed out and never had that problem. It really ties everything together way better than some random new chick and her dead sister who couldn't go through a couple extra floppy disks to find the permanence code that Eve found laying out in the open in literally 2 seconds. Ares is a fucking mess that could only have been improved by bringing back Sam and Quorra.
>>215558299Tron is midwit filterBased retards love the flashy visuals and musicEnlightened chads love the deep mythological and religious themes
>>215558210The 3D was one of the best from that era, and having the kino effects + the Daft Punk score going full throttle made for a kino experience.
>>215558316Forgot pic.
>>215556249fucking pathetic consoomer loser ugh
>>215558236>Ares just had to be cool and it does it wellIt doesn't, though. It's very flashy, but there's no substance to any of the action scenes. Everything feels so floaty and flat and lacks any kind of impact or weight, I just find myself staring at the screen and failing to get even the slightest connection to what's going on.
>>215558333>>215557666two trips>>215558316>>215558336If they don't wait 20 years to make Tron 4 they could definitely rehash the permanence plot with Sam+Quorra and do your idea as sort of a background main plot but have a bunch of character-developing minor plots which are really the focus of the show. At any rate I unironically believe that they didn't have Sam+Quorra in Ares due to budget constraints or lack of interest from the actors or both. Even though Jeff bridges probably made more from his cameo than Garret or Olivia would have for the whole movie, some higher up at Disney was cutting stuff. There's already a deleted scene leaked and allegedly Disney insisted on the movie staying under 2 hours runtime. I could understand them leaving S+Q out for now and focusing on the new story if they have limited time and money to work with.I feel like Ares was a toe in the water for them to decide on building out a more Legacy-centric sequel or not. Or maybe I'm just heavily coping since I really liked Ares. Even though it's not doing great financially I think it's still like the highest rated of the 3 movies so maybe hope isn't lost.
>>215556134more like
>>215556134What's more boring than Tron?? Maybe DUNC haha trash
>>215556134Preque-
One thing I liked in Ares was the reveal that the old 80s Grid still existed as part of Flynn's network, which is something I suspected when Uprising showed Bit and explained how Tron got there (instead of a copy of his software) yet they never got far enough along in that show to display it.
The movie was actually good, it's a bit odd seeing so much online negativity about it despite that.Couldn't relate at all to the female CEO of encom maybe that's for the ladies to connect to but just lacking stakes with her or the real world when the two grids are more interesting with either one being infiltrated and fought in.
>>215557136People are trying, you have biggish-name reviewers like RLM recommending it which is what got me to take the plunge, but the marketing of Ares tanked interest hard where I feel Legacy's marketing was a major reason it got a big enough audience to make a profit to begin with. Almost feels like it would had been better if the marketing was limited to shouting NINE INCH NAILS IS IN THIS, that it would had been less damaging then focusing on Mr. Beast or whatever else I didn't see through my ad blockers.It would had at least been a few million cheaper.
>>215556134did anyone see that Tron movie
>>215557136>pretty much everyone that watched it thought it was good?And how many people watched it? And how low is their standards?
I really do like the first two Tron films. They both have a whole lot of ideas that they are more than excited to show off to the audience but never having enough time to properly explore them. I watched them both back to back a weekend back and man, I never really thought about how quick they wrap up. Each has like two shots after the Flynns escape their grids before credits roll. And Uprising never even got fucking finished. I appreciate them for streching out as much as they could with what they got and filling them with some really odd yet cool metaphysical concepts on top of the generally appealing aesthetic.I won't speak on Ares as I haven't seen it. I will inevitably, but not right now.
>>215556249I know this is a shitpost but I actually saw it opening weekend and it was fine. Totally didn't deserve all the online hate it got. Like I usually agree with the Drinker crowd but they went overboard into full grifter mode on this one.
>>215556134Tron: cult classicTron Legacy: kind of Tron'ish but good soundtrackTron Ares: wut
>>215559006No.
>>215556134The Daft Punk one was pretty cool. >>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4cgLL8JaVI
>>215559006>>215560539I saw it. It was alright. The problem is Disney STILL has lingering effects of the woke virus in their blood. Like ok they made progress by putting a regular dude as the lead. But then they turn around cast the most mid non sexy asian chick they could find. And there is zero love interest between her and Ares. The only reason they didn't cast a hot asian chick and didn't have her as a love interest is because of some holdover of woke ideals that should have been flushed down the toilet post election. But they are still putting their politics over money and it is so ingrained in their blood they don't even realize it. Because if you make the Asian chick hot and make her a love interest the move grosses $50-$100 million more at the box office bare minimum.
>>215560786>regular dude as the lead
>>215560786I think it's more of a side effect of the script being made out of the mangled remains of Tron: Ascension and Asian chick was crammed in to fill the roles of both of the leads of the previous movie rather than any intentional wokeness.
Tron sucks and the only reason people cared about legacy was Daft Punk making the soundtrack. And to be honest that soundtrack is fine, it’s not that great, it’s better in theory. It’s just a typical above average move soundtrack
>>215560964That's what they want you to think. But make no mistake the Asian chick was not hot on purpose. It's practically part of the Tron aesthetic along side cool music and effects that the movie should be filled with 'beautiful' people. It's part of the Tron aesthetic. But their ideals will not let them do it. Like holding your hand over an open flame. They can't bring themselves to do it even though 10-15 years ago it would have been a no brainier.
>>215556336>admitting>>215556134>deny>hateWhat are some other words designed to enforce a narrative?
>>215557515Garret Hedlund is a charisma vacuum who's career never panned out and over a decade later former 10/10 Olivia Wilde is now bogged. And it's not like Disney can come out and say these things out loud. But if you don't have autism you should know these things instinctively. Which is why they had go forward with a new storyline. But of course they bungled the execution anyway because it's current era and they can't have a smokin hot chick as the co-lead.
