>>215626718
Yes?

>>215626718
literal character assassination because some people liked him more than their favorite pet character
this does not happen in the books, they changed the story to make him unlikable and kill him off

>>215627454
He's literally going to do it in Winds of Winter

>>215627507
it'll be character assassination done for the same reasons there too

>>215626718
this guy was a gigantic simp who deserved it

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>>215626718
No. This is my king.

>"It may be that we shall lose this battle," the king said grimly. "In Braavos you may hear that I am dead. It may even be true. You shall find my sellswords nonetheless." The knight hesitated. "Your Grace, if you are dead - " " - you will avenge my death,and seat my daughter on the Iron Throne. Or die in the attempt."

a certain tribe feels threatened by this archetype so obviously they have to make him le bad somehow

Stannis of house Baratheon. First of his name. Master of Ships. Lord of Dragonstone. King of the Andals and the First Men. Lord of the Seven Kingdoms. Protector of the Realm. The one true King of Westeros.

>>215626718
Yes my King

>>215627507
The winter storm's getting worse but literally everything else about the situation in and around Winterfell is going in his favor, unless Grrm'y goes and decides to do one of his famous epic subversive moments and ass pull a win for the Bolton's he won't need to burn her.

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>>215626718
Yeah you're right. Let's instead flay her alive and drape her skin over the city walls.

>>215627454
Yep. Welcome to jews.

>>215627507
Shireen is at Castle Black and Stannis is hundreds of miles away outside of Winterfell

>>215626718
What was so "innocent" about her?

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>>215626718
>>215627454

>>215627507
Is this why George can't finish the book? Because he can't square the circle of Stannis burning Shireen and the fact he's a quarter of the continent away from her?

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>twice a rebel (never crowned)
>kinslayer
>apostate
>cavorts with smugglers, pirates, moneylenders, skin wearing savages, sellswords, witches, and Maesters
>literally raised by Maesters
>hypocrite (rebellion is ok when I do it!)
>practices blood magic
>no major holdings (Storms End lost to the true king Faegon)
>only victories against Ironniggers and some women and children north of the wall
>ugly wife (possibly cucking him with Patchface)
>no sons
If Stannis so so great why did he never win a land battle against a peer opponent?

>>215628567
>If Stannis so so great why did he never win a land battle against a peer opponent?
He did better, holding Storm's End and being one of the only characters in the setting to be a functional naval commander (Victarion barely counts)

>>215628681
>holding Storm's End
Big fat pile of nothing. All he did was exist. Just sat patiently and waited for Ned to break the siege.
>naval
Second tier.

>>215627535
Unless the fat fuck actually finishes (he won't), the show is canon.

>>215626718
I never understood why Stannis was so popular on here.

>>215628946
Because he's autistic and has no friends.

>>215628946
He was a based Chad in the books.

>>215628946
he's just like me (bitter and resentful because he refuses to talk to anyone about his problems)

>>215627507
>He's literally going to do it in Winds of Winter

>implying
If a bear shits in the woods in a book but the book never gets released, did it happen?

>>215628907
Wrong. When the fat fuck dies, my headcanon becomes real.

>>215629100
>Implying implications

>>215628946
Because he was the only one out of all the people vying for the throne that actually took his duties as a ruler seriously.

>>215629175
this

>>215628543
no its because meereen is a fucking mess and he can't figure out how to get dany to westeros

>>215628567
he slaughtered the wildlings

>>215628567
he took dragonstone

>>215629331
Asoiaf would have been so much better if Dany and Viserys never went to Essos and were instead hiding in Westeros, going from place to place trying to get support from various lords. Essos just kind of sucks.

>>215628348
the red woman is also at castle black she'll see a vision in the flames and burn shireen

>>215629408
so stannis wont have anything to do with it?

>>215629385
eh the dothraki are cool and the scene with the unsullied is maybe one of the best moments in both the book and the show, gurm just got bogged down in meereen and can't seem to find a way out the meereenese knot is a real problem, he's written himself into a corner honestly Euron is the only hope of untangling it

>>215629441
correct, also she has to rez Jon so maybe thats how that happens she fucks it up and instead of helping stannis she rezs Jon "only death can bring life" its been set up since a game of thrones

>>215629380
>had the best and largest navy in westeros (Stormlands navy mogs Iron Island rafts)
>manages to beat tiny garrison of hold outs who STILL manage to delay long enough for the remaining Targaryen children to escape

>>215629490
nope he made the "best and largest navy" after he took dragonstone so they could attack the iron islands

>>215629473
sure thats possible
i was more or less pointing out that op is retarded because as the other anon said shireen is far from stannis atm and he wont be having her burned ever, its not in his character

>>215629516
true I agree

>>215628703
>Big fat pile of nothing. All he did was exist. Just sat patiently and waited for Ned to break the siege.
except that there's still fighting that happens during a siege, small scale skirmishes and management of resources which he did for almost a year

>>215627507
nice bait, very nice

>>215628907
nah, the show is the show, it has nothing to do with the books. many details in the first half of the show contradict the books already so they can't both be canon

>>215628543
They won't be finished because never cared about them that much in the first place. As soon as the IP got famous enough for him to sell the rights, the books stopped coming out regularly and became meandering. As soon as an adaptation got big enough for him to live off for the rest of his life he stopped writing them completely.
That's why it's so funny every thread on the show gets swamped by soibois crying about "BUT MUH BOOKS".

Stannis the Mannis was too based for that show, so they had to do him wrong.

>>215626718
>gentile comes under sway of foreign cult
>murders his daughter for the cult
sad but not unexpected

>>215626718
>This is your king?
to the ends of the earth

>>215628946
tits or gtfo

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>>215629712
/got/ threads are just thinly veiled bookfag threads, always has been

>>215629792
gods its been forever since I saw that

>>215626718
He committed adultery with a witch to summon a demon to kill his brother.
If you ever thought he was the hero you're seriously delusional.

Seven save us! hes even making the women and children pay the iron price....

>>215630346
renly was a retard and tywin would've crushed him like an ant

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>>215630597
i'd follow stannis into any battle but the whole kinslaying via shadow demon thing is a real drag...

>>215627507
Lmao there wont be a next book you dumb fuck

>>215630752
I'm reading clash of kings right now, well re-reading its been a long time and there isn't any other choice stannis doesn't have the cash to hire faceless men or the quarth assassins guild or any of the big hitters and hes got this lady that can one shot anyone, he always gives them a chance to surrender or bend the knee with very reasonable terms, even after he kills the castillian of storms end he pardons everyone he's doing the best he can in a bad situation dammit

>>215630840
yeah he did give Renly a very good deal he should have taken, I'd still fight for Stannis but the kinslaying is still a dark mark on him and am glad it's reflected by the fact he's haunted by it

>>215630922
Renly could've demanded to be made Hand plus the already offered Heir and the war would've been over in a week

>>215627507
so...... never?

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>>215630840
unbothered
in my lane

>>215627454
this will happen in the books that whole burning shiren was martin's idea

>>215627454
>this does not happen in the books
The books haven't gotten to that point in the story yet, they probably never will.

>>215626718
Robb was my king, after he's gone it's amusing to watch all these rats scurrying around in circles calling themselves king.

>>215627454
>they changed the story
Yeah, by actually finishing it.
The books are frozen at pretty much the point of the "give me 20 good men" line and will remain that way because gurm is fat sack of shit who forgot about the books the moment the shows became successful

>>215631918
its frozen at dany being surrounded by a dothraki khalisar and no she won't do the whole burn them and walk out of the fire because thats not how it works in the books she isn't immune to fire

>>215627454
>>215627507
>>215627890
It is kind of crazy he's never going to live to finish the books. As well as he might be a real right prick and not leave his next of kin/estate ANY real guidelines to finish it for him.
>>215629385
>>215629446
What's cool about Essos is it shows how Daenerys could be a ruler in her own right but the Iron Throne corrupts her because she can't let it go. This is all show stuff, but as well as her legacy in Essos is immaculate and in Westeros she's Netanyahu.

The dragons need to breed from the original three so that centuries later they return. I don't care what anyone says that's what the series needs. Plus, dragons numbering in the hundreds again brings back magic because it's implied dragons have a general magic aura around them. In sufficient number it's implied it brings a region back to having wizards and shit.

>>215632409
that isn't all show stuff its the same problem, dany should stay in essos and rule but she's hell bent on getting the iron throne this ridiculous childhood fantasy where westeros is the best place in the world and the red keep is the most beautiful most majestic palace ever

>>215632409
also their are still wild dragons in asshai its why the shadowbinders still have magic

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>>215626718
Book Stannis will burn himself to stop the Others before burning his daughter.

>rereading dunk and egg
>get to the end of the stories
>there's more about to be published very soon - GRRM 2015
People blame Myreen for ASOIAF dying but what writer's block could possible stop short stories about a hedge knight wandering the land?

>>215632780
Gurm wanted every Dunc story to have different love interest, but realized he can't top the one in Mystery Knight.

>>215632839
he doesn't have one in mystery knight wat?

>>215627507
Isn't he dead already in the books? or at least implied to be?

>>215632860
>he didn't realize
Dunk the Lunk.

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>>215632860

>>215632839
he has one in sworn sword and the hedge knight, he doesn't have one in mystery knight you tard

>>215632885
>>215632887
faggo, he says from the start their is something off about that moron and he doesn't like him

>>215632884
The letter was written by a shit-stirer wanting to stir confusion at the Wall.

>>215632738
It’s one of the few things confirmed to happen in the books
He’ll win the Battle of Ice, the Boltons and Freys will collapse, but all the Northern Lords will reject him, so he’ll be forced to march north, where most of his army will die on the journey, and then he’ll burn Shireen when he returns to the Wall.

>>215632884
the pink letter? thats a ruse

>>215632912
Dunk has the True Royalty Radar. When he saw Egg he thought he is a stable boy and didn't recognize some other prince, but when he saw John he immediately wanted to bow and scrape.

>>215632978
keep your fag fantasy to yourself

>>215632944
Acceptable as long as he does it to stop Endless Winter and not to win a throne.

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GET HYPE

>>215633001
No.

>>215630922
>>215630966
Why would Renly do that? He would’ve taken the throne if Stannis didn’t shadow baby him. He had the support of the entire Stormlands + Reach.

>>215633088
stupid faggot blackfyres

>>215633143
because if he was actually smart he would've realized he has no chance of winning a war as he has zero battle experience and tywin or robb will stomp him, hell fucking balon will

>>215633147
As if the Egg didn't have a faggot son.

>>215633178
Renly and Robb are not enemies, Robb will immediately bend the knee in exchange for Sansa + aid against the Ironborn. The Lannisters cannot compete against the combined might of Renly and the Tyrells.

>>215633178
Mace the Ace, CHADtower and Tarly would have carried him.

>>215633240
B-but king in da norf...

>>215633178
Robb didn't have any battle experience either.

>>215633240
>Robb will immediately bend the knee in exchange for Sansa
no he fucking wouldn't I am reading clash of kings again right now, no fucking chance
>>215633242
you'd think so but his stupid boys playing at war would've been stomped by the riverlads and the northchads

>>215633143
>Why would Renly do that?
because they're brothers, Stannis wants the throne because it's his. Renly wants it because he's a fag

>>215633285
CHADmure is only Northern/Riverlander commander that showed skill and they mocked him for it.

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>>215632796
Maybe you guys can help me?

seven save us...he's even making the women and children pay the iron price!

>>215633275
he proved otherwise very very quickly,renly never proved himself once, his idea of slowly moving north while lannisters and starks fought gathering strength wasn't a bad one but he never once showed any other wartime intelligence for instance when stannis seiged storms end he rode with all his knights and left the majorityt of his force behind, he had no supply line no support if he couldn't end the siege in a week he was fucked. Again I am re-reading clash of kings right now, that was his first and last mistake,even without the red woman, if renly hadn't been able to smash stannis in the first engagement he was fucked, robb would've never done something that risky and stupid

>>215633364
are you just going to pretend the blackfish doesn't exist?

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>>215633390
>no capitalization
>seiged
>majorityt
>run-on sentence
Smartest Northman.

>>215633444
so? go back then faggot, refute the argument made
>b-but it isn't grammatically correct
go back

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>>215626718
>innocent daughter
>YEAH KILL HER
>This is your king?

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>>215633444
faggit

>>215633363
Stannis is a grumpy autist who literally converts to a foreign eastern heresy and didn’t even do the due diligence of fucking his wife to ensure he had sons. The Baratheons cannot win without the Tyrell alliance. Stannis would never ally with the Tyrells because he still holds a grudge against them. He doesn't understand that Joffrey is the anointed king, and while he has a strong claim he needs to politic. Renly saw his chance and took it. It is Stannis who should’ve saw where the wind was blowing and submitted to Renly to ensure Shireen has good prospects. Instead he kills Renly and basically dooms the Baratheon cause because there’s no way he could win the war against the Lannisters + Tyrells even if he took King’s Landing.

>d-debate me master
No, until you forge your first chain-link (English language).

>>215633600
stupid faggot renly was an idiot end of debate

>>215626718
>only thing he ever loved
>sacrifices it in service to the realm
Unfathomably based TBQHWYF

>>215633579
if he took kings landing he could've been convinced to make common cause with robb and thats it the lannisters are fucked, war over stannis wins

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Renly had more soldiers, more lord-bannermen and more popular support. He had all advantages except one: being right.
That's why he is dead and buried.

>>215633640
The Tyrells would know they would be fucked if Stannis won. Stannis’ marriage was basically a warning to the Tyrells by Robert that if they get uppity they will be replaced. So they will go all in with the Lannisters. Robb would still be crippled by the Ironborn and would be forced to march back north, and so it’s pretty much Stannis + some Riverlanders vs the Lannisters + Tyrells. He cannot win under such circumstances even if he has King’s Landing.

>>215633783
also lacked a brain

>>215628946
because he is likely asperger's

>>215633858
the tyrells are not stupid and they want to make margaery queen they would've flipped as easy as a pancake and offered to wed loras to shireen

>>215633858
also stannis would have the stormlands plus the support of countless essos mercenaries once he paid the ones he already had davos could get more the golden company for instance

>>215633579
>Stannis would never ally with the Tyrells because he still holds a grudge against them.
he would absolutely deal with them if the situation is pragmatic enough and all it would take is one battle win against the lannisters/tyrells before everyone starts rethinking their loyalties, his reputation as a battle commander is fierce

>>215633933
Why would they flip to a weaker guy? If they stick with Lannisters Margaery is a queen anyway.

>>215633933
Stannis would never do that + Shireen is a young sickly girl with probable infertility problems considering her parents + Stannis could still have a son.

>>215633858
oh and lets not forget the arryns, sure its dicey but stannis as king along with a treaty with the north might very well have forced lysa to send the vale in support, thats only maybe but if stannis clears out the hill tribes then...?

>>215633982
I don’t think Stannis actually has all of the Stormlands, I think some houses flipped to the Lannisters

>>215634012
>Stannis could still have a son
Even Stannis himself doesn't believe that.
Anyway who do you think would he want to marry Shireen? He refused Sweetrobin, which makes sense considering they are both sickly children, so it should be some strong chad.

>>215634000
in this scenario stannis has taken kings landing and has the storm lords behind him, he is literally in the strongest possible position you can be in
>>215634012
Shireen isn't sickly at all, regardless wedding Loras to the future queen makes the Tyrells committed to insuring Stannis' reign so their son will succeed as king

>>215634110
no he has all of them some of the highgarden faggots threw in with the lannisters, aftyer the failed siege of kings landing he lost some of them

>>215626718
>innocent daughter
Did you see how ugly she was though? Thats a huge crime alone

>>215626718
No sir, I'm one the 3 or 4 people that supported Renly.

>>215634238
faggot

>>215634238
faggot

>>215634125
There’s no guarantee from the Tyrell’s perspective that Stannis couldn’t have a son with his current wife (a Florent, remember), or that his wife could die and he would remarry. Stannis wouldn’t marry Shireen for any alliance, he would wait until he won the throne and marry Shireen to a loyal vassal who she likes. The only possible scenario where he marries Shireen for an alliance is if he wins the Battle of Ice, marries Shireen to Rickon, and perhaps remarries to a Manderley girl if his wife dies to secure the North. But that’s separate from a scenario where he takes King’s Landing.

>>215634164
She is seen as sickly and disabled by everyone due to her greyscale. Wedding Shireen to Loras doesn’t guarantee the Tyrells anything, marrying Marg to Tommen (if Joffrey dies during the siege) does.

>>215626718
Kek

>>215634344
you are missing the hypothetical this is after stannis takes kings landing, cersi and her bastard spawn are dead or imprisoned, the stormlands and the crownlands are his...what next?

>>215634418
Tommen and Myrcella would still be alive, no?

>>215634344
stannis has all the cards he offers shireen in marriage to loras to the tyrells, if they don't accept he crushes them in battle

>>215632368
Yes she is, in the books there is even more of magic than in the tv series.

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>2025
>still talking about asoaif like gurm is actually working on it
The subhuman untouchables who every day sweep the streets of India semi-clean of the mountains of shit that accrue there, are intellectual giants compared with the average as soi af fan

>>215634462
no sorry Cersie an heroed Tommen with the tears of lys as Stannis stormed the red keep, Myrcella is already shipped of to Dorne. As part of the peace treaty she is kept as ward of Doran Martell so she's still alive, in this timeline Jamie actually does go to Dorne like the stupid show to rescue his daughter but its with Brianne, things go awry and shenanigans ensue.

>>215634589
>anon incapable of comprehending someone enjoying a work of fiction
grim

>>215634470
no she isn't gurm has said multiple times the funeral was speical event, the things that are combined their are not normal, drogo, the blood witch, the magic that happened just recently, the dragon eggs, the comet etc. she is not immune to fire, it was a confluence of things, all through a game of thrones she is slowly waking the dragon eggs for instance

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>>215634589
>implying we talk about the books and not about our headcanon endings
For me it's Aegon Blackfyre x Shireen.

>>215634589
what a retard you are this entire thread is talking about hypotheticals I guess a 3rd worlder wouldn't understand the concept

>>215634606
There is no scenario in which the Lannisters and Tyrells submit, the North is in chaos due to the Ironborn, there is anarchy until Young Griff / Daenerys invades.

>>215634696
>not Aegon Brightfyre x Sansa
Lol

I think Dany should’ve been queen at the end.

>>215634703
you are giving the tyrells waaay to much credit, they will submit in an instant if they think stannis will show them leniency

>>215634741
Sansa is for Sandor though.
>>215634753
Yes. Of Meereen.

>>215634788
tbf once her dragons are fully grown its game over, give it 20 years and thats it world domination

>>215634839
>once her dragons are fully grown its game ov-ACK

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First for the Aegon, sixth of his name, king of the Andals, the Rhoynar, and the First Men, the rightful Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm.

>>215635162
fucking imposter

>>215635162
Would it not be Aegon V if he was a Blackfyre because they view Targ monarchs as illegitimate?

>>215635186
Blackfyres are the true heirs. Daeron is a faggot and a bastard as well.

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>>215629831
>tfw Kevan got stabbed to death by the little wretched of a bald faggot

>the Wildlings are at camp, showering Jon with gifts and the songs of their people
>Jon smiles, enjoying this valuable cultural experience
>a cry is heard in the distance
>suddenly, the camera pans to the thundering stampede of a thousand men on horses
>we see Stannis driving the men to fight by cracking a flaming whip
>"FORM RANKS, YOU DOGS"
>in the distance, Wildling women and children are burning, the soundtrack a high screaming wail
>"TAKE THE WOMEN FOR OUR THRALLS," Stannis shouts, "FEED THE BABES TO THE FIRES"
>"Yes," cries Davos, "R'hllor hungers!"
>Jon looks on, his face grief-stricken
>"Seven save us," Jon whispers, "he's even making the women and children pay the Iron price!"

>>215635252
>Jon smiles, enjoying this valuable cultural experience
I always smile at this line.

>>215635213
bastardborn fucking shits

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REEEEEEEEEE

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>>215635162
>Aegon VI Targaryen's coronation
>all the lords are sitting in the great hall, feasting
>commander of the city watch rises the glass
>*ding ding ding*
>i've an announcement to make
>first I would like to congratulate lord Brynden 'Bloodraven' Rivers for fighting all Blackfyre claimants
>even after his exile he fused with a weirwood tree to live forever and ensure Targaryen remain in power
>he managed to sniff all of the frauds and switched babies like Dany (switched for Daenerys)
>HOWEVER
>he missed one...
>he tosses his gold cloak away, revealing a Bittersteel beneath
>...and his plans Blackfyred
>it means we need a change of decoration I suppose
>Marwyn the Mage waves his wand
>all Targ flags change into Blackfyre ones
>all Blackwood flags change into nooses

>>215635211
Wholesome CHADfyre doesn't want to confuse future schoolchildren.

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>>215629408
This has been the theory for years. Stannis is at war while his crazy wife, Melisandre and Shireen are far away. If Shireen burns, it will likely be Mel and the wife who do it without Stannis knowing.

>>215635324
BENEATH THE GOLD THE BITTER STEEL

>nobody has posted the picture of stannis against a tree saying AARRRGGGHHH
We're slipping, /tv/.

>>215635378
I know, it seems obvious

>>215635378
GRRM has confirmed Stannis will burn Shireen, how do people still not know this

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>>215634657
>>215634696
>>215634700

>>215635449
GRRM also confirmed he is "months away" from finishing WoW... in 2016.

Did Euron really sail to Valyria and survive or is he talking shit to impress the ironborn?

>>215632409
>The dragons need to breed from the original three so that centuries later they return. I don't care what anyone says that's what the series needs. Plus, dragons numbering in the hundreds again brings back magic because it's implied dragons have a general magic aura around them. In sufficient number it's implied it brings a region back to having wizards and shit.

Literally the only one who claims this is Quaithe.

>>215635486
Not the same thing

>>215635505
Talking shit. He will be btfo by a real wizards (Hightower and his daughter) and Victarion will (rightfully) rule the Iron Islands.

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>>215628348
he will send a raven requesting the burning

>>215635562
lmao euron is raping victarion on the reg as we speak

>>215634696
Don't worry, the nanosecond GRRM dies some other will be hired to finish the series. This isn't a Pratchett or Tolkien situation, he has no children to make sure his will is kept.

The Stannis's actor didn't like the show, didn't read the books unlike the acotr who played Barristan and he still gave one of the best performances just like Charles Dance. The show Stannis is much better and more charismatic. *The book Stannis grinds his teeth.

>>215635505
Hes got fucking valyrion fullplate armor, of course he did

>>215632927
These were funny as fuck. I love the BRAVO D&D stuff.

>>215635614
Lmao, Victarion is raping the dusky woman (warged Euron) as we speak.

>>215635681
victarion cope

>>215627454
In the books the Boltons and Freys are trapped in Winterfell surrounded by families that are all plotting to kill them and not letting the other know. It's a bloodbath in Stannis' favor as he gathers unbloodied clans wins favor repelling the iron islanders.

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Wasn't he under a curse of a witch the entire time?

>>215627507
It makes sense for Stannis to do it in order to combat The Others and save humanity. It doesn’t make sense for him to do it because they’re low on horses and facing some snow sludge lol

>>215635623
Liam Cunningham had to explain a lot to Dillane, which is funny it mirrors their characters relationship in the show. Having said that, Stannis is way better in the books and is surprisingly funny.

>>215628907
The show did it's own storyline long before they ran out of road. Bran being King is the end but who Bran is and how that gets there is a different story.

>>215635738
he is tolerant of other religions but because he's seen Melisandre's magic he believes R'hllor is the one true god

>>215635752
>Liam Cunningham
Haven't read them too.
>Liam: “I haven’t read a page of the books. In fact, there’s been more than one occasion Mr. George R.R. Martin has pulled me over to one side and gone, ‘have you read them?’ and I go, ‘No, George.’
>>215635752
>Stannis ... is surprisingly funny.
Sometimes, aye.

>R'hllor shits out miracles and magic every book
>the old gods have wargs and greenseer bullshit going on
>the seven get fucking nothing
What did he mean by this?

>>215635876
the seven aren't real
the "old gods" is just the Great Other
R'hllor is the one true god of planetos

>>215635827
Stannis burned the old gods statues with lord Sunglass(and Florent) on Dragonstone and the godswood at Storm's End.

>>215635876
the magic candles?

>>215628946
uh maybe because he's the rightful fucking king in all this bullshit?

>>215627535
>and and
Cringe

>>215635987
Melisandre's doing, he also denies burning of innocent men for sacrifice and allows men of any faith in his army

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Still a better ending.

>>215628946
He's extremely fair and the only contender with any sense, besides being the legal successor on top of it. A lowborn smuggler saves Stannis and his men from starvation, he promotes him to to his Hand after punishing him for his life of crime.

>Every man shall reap what he has sown, from the highest lord to the lowest gutter rat. And some will lose more than the tips off their fingers, I promise you. They have made my kingdom bleed, and I do not forget that.

>>215636171
Melisandre converting of Stannis to the red god through his wife mirrors Christian conversion of pagan European kings.

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>>215636330

>>215636219
who is that

>>215627591
Every king after Daeron ii Targaryen is illegitimate. Period

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Double black pride. Worldwide.

>>215636556
Shireen Baratheon.
>As to your daughter, I understand. If my wife looked like yours, I'd send my fool to service her as well.
>Renly Baratheon

>>215634164
>Shireen isn't sickly at all
lmao wut

greyscale is terminal, anything else is just maester cope

>>215636667
Green-Red chads checking in

>>215636667
Double Black chads where we at?

>>215636667
I'm on the fence between Green-Black and Green-Red. Both make a lot of sense but I favor Green-Black because Daemon had abs and Bloodcraven sucks.

>>215636878
A thousand eyes, and one