Why have so many people missed the point?
>>215628420media literacy is in decline
>>215628420isn't most of it fictional anyway?
>>215628420Were communists also reponsible for Fukushima?
>>215628420The mind of a typical American film and television consumer. Better just check behind my couch for the 50th time tonight just to make sure there isn't some communism hiding behind there.
>>215628467The female scientist character was an amalgamation of various real people. The firefighter story comes from a book by Svetlana Alexievich who transcribes interviews with real people to create a kind of modern oral history of miserable events. Lots of scenes in the show come from those interviews, though a lot are only fragmentary and spliced together.
>>215628420Did they? The show pretty much hams it into your face that GOMMINISM IS LE OPPRESSIVE AND BAD ONLY A FEW GOOD MEN (AND A WOMAN WE MADE UP) WERE RATIONAL ENOUGH THERE. Americans get off on the idea that everyone in USSR lived in some kind of Catch-22 idiocracy
why can't they make shows like this anymore?
>>215628551But anon, communism is happening to you as we speak. Ever noticed how everyone on this board is called the same? How we're all treated as equals, indistinguishable from one another?
>>215628551the show literally depicts a communist sytem though.You cant really talk about this show without talking about the system it depicts.
>>215628635And they say communism only works on paper... here, you can see it in action right on your very own computer screen.
>>215628420it's literally Saudi funded propaganda against oil competition THOUGH
>>215628635Is it Real™ Communism though? I'm told that one has never been tried (much like Real™ Capitalism)
>>215628583The old cut-up method, very valid
>>215628519>socialism is comparable to earthquake of level 11 on Richter scale and 15 meter tsunami waveI entirely agree, incredibly based take.
>>215628678It's not done in a deceitful way or anything. She interviewed 500 people for the book so it can't all be fit in there. But the interview with the fireman's wife gets quite a few pages. >He was producing stool 25 to 30 times a day. With blood and mucous. His skin started cracking on his arms and legs. He became covered with boils. When he turned his head, there’d be a clump of hair left on the pillow. I tried joking: “It's convenient, you don't need a comb." Soon they cut all their hair. I did it for him myself. I wanted to do everything for him myself. If it had been physically possible I would have stayed with him all twenty-four hours. I couldn't spare a minute. [Long silence.] My brother came and he got scared. “I won't let you in there!" But my father said to him: “You think you can stop her? She’ll go through the window! She’ll get up through the fire escape!" I go back to the hospital and there's an orange on the bedside table. A big one, and pink. He's smiling: “I got a gift. Take it.” Meanwhile the nurse is gesturing through the film that I can't eat it. It's been near hima while, so not only can you not eat it, you shouldn’t even touch it. “Come on, eat it,” he says. “You like oranges.” I take the orange in my hand. Meanwhile he shuts his eyes and goes to sleep. They were always giving him shots to put him to sleep. The nurse is looking at me in horror. And me? I’m ready to do whatever it rakes so that he doesn’t think about death. And about the fact that his death is horrible, that I’mafraid of him. There's a fragment of some conversation, I'm remembering it. Someone is saying: “You have to understand: This is not your husband anymore, not a beloved person, but a radioactive object with a strong density of poisoning...tfw no crazy soviet gf
>>215628753I really meant it was a valid method.
>>215628785I know, I just wanted an excuse to post that because nobody ever discusses the author in these threads or even on /lit/ despite the fact she won a Nobel prize in 2015.
>>215628812Yeah in one ear and out the other with these guys
point former socialist countries
>>215628584This lol, the whole thing is about as subtle as a sledgehammer.
>>215628866France, the UK, Germany, Italy...
>>215628635Wtf I love communism now
I didn't miss the point, that's explicitly why I dropped it after 1 episode.
>>215628866eastern europe is a shithole, no one wants to move there
>>215628905I'm pretty sure the czech republic and finland are broadly nicer places on average than most of germany
>>215628905>muh gdp
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>>215628584>everyone in USSR lived in some kind of Catch-22 idiocracyLook into how their fucking agriculture worked and you'll see state-mandated retardation that sounds like it was made up for a corny "In USSR..." joke, then discarded for being too unbelievable. They had absolute fucking mongoloid, mind-poisoned by biblical literalism communist ideology, deciding the fates of millions of people. Classifying a strain of wheat as reactionary and counter-revolutionary is the tip of the fucking iceberg.
>>215628943Finland is nice (because it's a cucked gay nordic welfare state, AKA the best kind of society ever devised) but the Czech republic sucks unless you're going there with western levels of money or are employed in a senior position.
>>215628943if you like commie blocks
>>215628960Aquitaine utterly BTFO.
>>215628960Cornwallsisters................
>>215628420What if it’s both?
>>215628420I'm sympathetic to communism and I think a lot of what Marx wrote is pretty intelligent. That being said, the Soviets really fucked everything up royally.
>>215628961That only existed for a few years and was abolished by the cornfather.As a sidenote, imagine how good the world could have been if Khrushchev's push to normalize relations wasn't thwarted by relentless CIA niggers obsessed with nukes because Jesus told them they'll help trigger the second coming or something.
>>215628960I'm pretty sure that krauts will still be using this image from 2000 in 2100 and later
>>215628467all the facts are facts but all the dialogue is made up
>>215629126without germanics there is no human civilization, evidently. should western europe and america fall then so will the rest of the world.
>>215628458>media literacyAnyone that says this term needs to be blasted in the face.
>>215629186>this is what germoidal humanoids actually believe inBack to being the bane of white race, Hans
>>215628753>He was producing stool 25 to 30 times a day. With blood and mucous.That alone sounds horrifying
>>215628584>The show pretty much hams it into your facNot it does not, you are just overly sensitive about your bullshit being shown for what it is.
>>215628753That's not crazy, that's loyal as fuck.
>>215629210you'd have more credibility if your shithole ever managed to form a functional state
>>215629032>lysenkoism directly killed 5 million+ citizens who put their trust in their government>it was only a few years bro after we realized we killed millions of people we stopped
>>215628960The methodology behind this book is really retarded if you dig into it.
>>215628866Hmmmm, why don't you show muslim population of 'ex'-socialist country known as Russia, comrade Ivan?
>>215628876How the fuck are you going to have a show about what went down and not include those details? Why are you like this?
My favorite communist retard plot is still Mao vs. sparrows
>>215629209who determines need?
>>215629030>I'm sympathetic to communismPUT YOU MOUTH ON THE FUCKING CURB MONSTER
>>215629126And why are you using this image when your country is either just as bad or already a total shithole?
>>215628966>unless you're going there with western levels of moneyYes, because literally everything there costs either same or more than in the West.
>>215629030>lot of what Marx wrote is pretty intelligentYes, especially how a family is a tool of capitalist oppression against women lmao kys reddit
>>215629247Germoids are just Russians in the middle of Europe.
>>215629312because they force you to clean their toilets?
>>215629030Marx's theories were refuted by bohm bawerk
>>215629387No, because their entire reason for existence is to ally with non-whites and attack Europe.
>>215629467>thinks he's whiter than italiansmust hurt your pride having to clean the shitter in a country that lost two world wars, eh?
>>215629523>Italians are whiteYeah and according to Germ Many so are muslims and japanese. This is what I meant by being Russians in nature, same patern of behavior.
>>215629580you clearly haven't been to northern italy and yes they're whiter than you, see>>215628960
>>215628551If only. Communism is such a plague that people should constantly be on the lookout for it.
>>215628584>everyone in USSR lived in some kind of Catch-22 idiocracyThat's because they DID and they still DO, zigger
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>>215628519No but they were retarded, yes>warned many times that the sea wall to protect against tsunamis was nowhere near high enough (the tsunami was more than double its height) but also that they should have done everything at above level with several contigencies in case this happened>the plant had multiple directors over time who all were aware of this issue, which was a complaint filed multiples times as a active liability, all ignored it>the worst possible scenario happensPoint is, dont let people with ill will ever touch nuclear, a retard can follow instructions, a piece of shit will sabotage it or not do the right thing
>>215629983>germany sends poland billions of euros>poland hires german companies to build and improve infrastructure>polish nationalists use images of said infrastructure to boast online
>>215628551Mate its literally a criticism of how Chernobyl would not have happened without Soviet internal bullshit because it was designed to be idiot proof
>>215630080I just like infrastructure and cityscape pictures.
>>215628420I was at a party and was talking about this with some Armenian/Ukrainian dudes (who were literally born in the USSR) and a literal tranny started going on about how the CIA fabricated most of the bad shit about Stalin and how the USSR of the era was actually super democratic. The other guys got pissed off. Felt like I was actually in some sort of /pol/tards fever dream. That was the first time I encountered an actually stereotypical tankie.
>>215630640>started going on about how the CIA fabricated most of the bad shit about Stalin and how the USSR of the era was actually super democraticThey're literally in a cult, dude.
>>215630640Welcome to Clown World, brother. They can't get past their "capitalism bad" filter. It's kind of like how libs claim that "islamaphobia is bad" despite actual muslims treating women like cattle and throwing fags from rooftops - they just miss the forest for the trees.
>>215629137the bridge scene is a myth but presented as fact in the show
>>215628420this, but unironically. the US navy has never had a major incident and they've operated multiple plants. the US also hasn't had a major incident since the manhattan project. The soviet plants were designed in a retarded way with the graphite tips and the positive void coefficient and then not even fucking built to spec >>215628467>>215629137>>215630769the problems with the reactor and the soviet system were correct, the things that happen to individual people other than the 2 main protagonists were largely made up
>>215630749Everyone just kinda stared at her like she was retarded. She (this was an FTM tranny not an MTF tranny) the other tranny there was the only one who agreed with her. It was actually fascinating to see an IRL /pol/ fantasy playout. I don't go to parties with people that far out of my established frame of reference that often so I wonder how prevalent these people are. The only other tranny I've had extended contact with is some sort of furry, but they stopped being a tranny a few months ago. The soviet borns were just like "no it fucking sucked and people were always poor and nervous and miserable" and she just tried to make up some shit about how they were young at the time so probably had a warped view. We started talking about The Death of Stalin and she got mad kek.
>>215631084what did the mtf tranny say?>We started talking about The Death of Stalin and she got mad kek.Were they actually defending stalin of all people?Where do you live? Let me guess, Portland?
>>215628866What are you even saying? Muslims go to Europe for the welfare checks. Welfare payments are lower in eastern Europe. Of course fewer Muslims want to go there.
>>215631258The MTF tranny was just agreeing with everything the FTM tranny said and was like "yeah well capitalist power systems keep masses propaganzied words words words">Were they actually defending stalin of all people?At first just the USSR but then they went on about how RFK admitted the CIA made up most negative things about Stalin. I'm pretty sure nothing about that statement is true at all.>Where do you live? Let me guess, Portland?Nope, Los Angeles. But both of these two are transplants from the south. The most unhinged far left people here are usually transplants. We get all the most radical leftist types who move from red states and come here to reinvent themselves because California is "tolerant" and they presume that means everyone is super liberal. These transplants unfortunately now make up like a full 1/4th of our population her enow. Most of the state is center left. You really only see native born far lefties in the bay area IMO. Old gen Angelinos are actually kind of chuddy.
>>215631379did the mtf tranny pass?
>>215631411he wouldn't know if xe was a tranny if xe did
>>215631411>did the mtf tranny pass?Neither of them did. The MTF especially not. The FTM one still looked like a girl though and was okay looking. Hope she doesn't hack her tits off but already seemed deluded enough to do so.
>>215631379also were they dating or something? how did they end up there?
>>215628519No, a literal magnitude fucking 9 Earthquake was.And it still didn't kill anybody, lol.
>>215631484It was a party for a friends friend. I was basically a guest of a guest. A lot of these people knew eachother through work or by two degrees of separation. They knew eachother. There was also a third maybe tranny but I actually couldn't tell if it was a tranny or just a very tall woman and they were pretty normal acting. There are just a lot of them here.
>>215628420Capitalistic are as fucking stupid but nobody cares about a company putting cancerchems in the water 10000x time in row with no real repressions. Lawers and sick people doesn't make as good tv as single good boom.
>>215631909Lets not open the can of worms that is Soviet Union's contributions to Environmentalism
Russia had unthinkable famines before, during, and after communism. I think we know what the actual common denominator is, and I think the show does too.
>>215628966Why would it suck? That makes no sense, also in CZ you can actually legally get interesting guns and it has more white people. So point is moot. Not like it matters if you flip Shnizels in Germany or rizky in Czech Republic.
>>215629580>We convinced shitskins that Italians aren't White because they saw our banter and got confused
>>215631909Post hands, brownoid.
>>215628551If you can handle the faggots on YouTube who make 10 hour videos about how Hello Kitty: The Movie is a commentary on capitalism then you can handle one meme about communism.
>>215632094you first, feel free to denounce vishnu while you're at it
>>215629030Dude there's a lot of very legitimate criticisms of capitalism and literally none of them are made by Marxists. Maybe a vague appeal to exploitation but these days the standard of living is so much higher even in the poorest countries compared to when Marx was still around.
>>215632037idk why the USSR is used as the example of the failures of communism when Russia has failed at every ideology they've ever tried
>>215628467it implied women are allowed to exist in russian
>>215631909Try breathing air or drinking water in the ussr in the 1970s lmfao
>>215632168Even during marx's life the standard of living increased a lot and he had to admit that.
>>215631379That’s basically exactly what happened to Texas and Florida but the opposite lmao
>>215632320I hate it. The mentally ill should not be allowed to vote or cross state lines. They are why fringe ideologies have bled into the mainstream.
>>215628458>media literacyYou will never be a woman.
>>215628960Why can't the Welsh and Cornish accomplish anything?
>>215628693I will quote this based post one day
>>215632134>Capitalistic are as fucking stupid but nobody cares about a company putting cancerchems in the water 10000x time in row with no real repressions. Lawers and sick people doesn't make as good tv as single good boom.Yeah, you don't get to post a thoroughly incoherent sentence such as this and then project your brownness onto others, Rajesh.And now it's your turn to post your fucking hand (even though I asked first, faggot)
Its not that Nuclear Power is bad its just when it goes bad the consequences are far worse
>>215628519Don't build a nuclear power plant on top of an island built entirely out of volcanoes.A 4 year old could have told you that.
>>215630062>worst possible scenario happens>not one single person was hurt and nothing bad happenedthe media really fucked with people over fukushima
>>215628584>le scientist man disrupts large meeting with all the evil dictators>someone tells him to be quiet>he bravely doesn't>OH COMMUNISM LEADER MAN I HAVE SCIENCE TO SAY>"onions rant">oh my god disrupting a meeting like this just to say dumb reddit shit, this is just how it was in soviet russia>everyone clapped>reddit man gets his rewarded with all the boron and sand he can eatVery evil propaganda, just like my media literacy teacher taught me, "if you don't understand something, make something up in your head that you do"
>>215628551Calm down, little buddy. Don't go electrocuting your dog over it.
>>215629032The man liked corn
>>2156292495 million capitalist sympathisers, comrade. 4 million is a necessary sacrifice. Stop talking about the 3 million.
