if those fallout show niggers don't do the NCR justice in the next season I can't guarantee their studio's safety
>>215631828I love genociding the NCR, unlimited 5.56 ammo.
>>215631828The NCR doesn't even do the NCR justice
New Vegas memes are gay and I hope the new season ruins them for everyone
>>215631850it does in the games i was happy on their side in lore they do badass shit like the batlte for helios onesuddenly in the show they're a bunch of ragtag hobos n crackheads pisses me off so much
>>215631828Bethesda hasn’t done fallout any justice aside from 3, so I just pretend it all doesn’t exist
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>>215631828The fallout show is shit and Todd hates the series now because the fans prefer the older games to his
>>215631828Lol what are you actually expecting? Everything theyve shown so far is that they arent even doing fonv any justice because theyre retconning the entire main plot
>>215631944wtf man
>new vegas attracts troons>those troons take over the showcant wait for the "umm actually gommunism is... le good!" speech every episode and other subversive shit
>>215631828NCR collapsed in the TV timeline
>>215632005they aren't gone 'yet NCR isn't just shady sands its an idea at this point, they can rebuild if they don't keep slaughtering them for east coast slop
>>215631828>play game built all around player agency and exploration >BOY I CAN'T WAIT UNTIL THEY TURN THIS INTO A TV SHOW! sorry, I'm not fucking retardedIf i want to watch a post apocalyptic movie I'll just go watch any of the dozens of pieces of media fallout loaned its elements from in the first place.
>>215632058>game built all around player agency and explorationthat's kinda irrelevant, its all about backstory and fallout has enough for a show, you just need a non retarded direction in it
>>215632001Troons hate new Vegas though
>>215632088please don't take /qa/ tranny bait from crossboarders
>the sky is blue>actually that's just bait from fallout 3 fans (?)
>>215631828it should be illegal to make tv shows and movies based on video games
>>215631828House is going to be Hitler2 or whateverThe Legion is going to be extremely homoeroticBoS will be an utterly insane troglodyte cultNCR will have at least three boss-ass-bitches who ain't taking shit from nobody somewhere in the chain of command.
>>215632204we got some kino ones lately tho
>NCR cucks whining again
>>215632230Obsidian wrote plenty of NCR boss bitches, that's one of the reasons why I love sweeping and clearing their HQs.
>>215632204Its all for all the brand-loyalty idiots. Anyone with an IQ bigger than their shoe size understand that if you take away gameplay and agency all you have left is a shitty story written by people who couldn't cut it in television and film in the first place.
>>215632266Not surprised. I think I've beaten it about 5 times but I've never picked NCR, even the literal mongols are preferable.
>>215631828They are going to use season 2 as an excuse to fully de-canon New Vegas. Only vague events will have happened from the game, just like Fallout Tactics.
>>215632234That was fucking shit.
>>215632363*That was the fucking shit.srry fucked up my post
>>215632327you're a bad person
>>215632361Yep.Canon only matters if the franchise has someone at the head of it who is an auteur with a vision. Fallout has not had that since Chris Avellone wrote the Fallout Bible to fix the mistakes of Fallout 2. Who gives a fuck what Emil and Todd keep saying is canon when it makes no logical sense and has no internal consistency? Emil said the TV show and New Vegas are both canon when they directly contradict eachother on several major points. It's just retarded slop at this point and it's time to stop caring. There is no grand vision for Fallout under Bethesda, they make it up as they go along and then overwrite and retcons things they wrote the week before constantly.
>>215632408Fuck you nigger.
>>215632361Maybe not such a bad move. People seem way more invested in the FNV story compared to the other games. One 'wrong' plot choice, even something trivial like Benny living or dying will send people into a insatiable sperg rage.
>>215631828They won't and you know it, so stop worrying about it. Bethesda does nothing right.
>>215632088https://youtu.be/dT_4OV1_24U?si=DJX2ShKCGgzi3QCDlmao
>>215632425https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI_lrwQiuCMdial8
independent is the best ending and if you say otherwise you're a materialistic weakling
>>215632527independent is literally for weaklings who are afraid of hurting large groups of people even if they're diametrically opposed to you.
>>215632577a lawless wasteland is preferable to any other alternativeif you can't see that, you're a slave
>>215631828For a parody series they don't know how to write a joke or any action
>>215632577But I nuked both the legion and the NCR.Get off my lawn
>>215632600>lawless might makes right
>>215632361Season 2 doing New Vegas shit is only as artifice so Lucy can join Crimson Caravan with the express purpose of traveling to Boston and DC, just so Bethesda can further milk Fallout 3 and 4. Expect everything else New Vegas related to be totally fucked.
>>215632623bingo
the best part of the story is that you're nothing more than a random courier with a bit of luck, not the center of the universe like the head of the NCR or House. The best ending is you getting revenge on the man that tried to kill you, delivering the chip as promised, getting paid for a job well done then going back to goodsprings for a beer because again, you're just the courier.
>>215632600>you're a slave if you don't create a situation where slavery could easily resurface without anyone knowing
>>215631828Why would I continue to watch a show that preaches communism, has mary sues, token black characters, and actual trannies in the cast?
>>215631828>caring about Fallout after New Vegas You're supposed to let go of the series. That was the whole point of the NV dlc.
>>215632764slavery is law is slaverythere's nothing preventing you from killing the slavers and freeing the slaves if no laws exist to protect the slavers
>play New Vegas countless times>varied character types >varied morality>always end up siding with Mr. House because every other option is retarded
>>215632771You would not. You will make a post mocking it in a humorous way to which I will respond "based" and we will both chuckle like P. Bateman.
>>215632991no one's gonna do that, though. the Mojave is filled with people turning a blind eye.
>>215633017the person who sides with any faction is the person who gets obliterated by an individual with his own will to live
>>215633107Did that sound cool in your head?
>>215631828NCR is essentially gone in the show. Also it's far and away the worst faction in FONV.>>215631897You're a fucking moron, NCR is so pathetic the entire game is you fixing their shit.>>215632425Are you kidding? The NCR is a harmful organization and the game does nothing but depict this. House or Yes Man with a Good Karma Courier who had done beneficial quest objectives to uplift the regional factions is far and away the best outcome for the region as a whole. Bailing the corrupt worthless NCR out harms everyone equally for a long period of time. Legion harms everyone more severely in the short term but is better in the long term because it's system is unsustainable and it induces reform in NCR and unity in the region once it's harsh>>215632711Nora's voice actress.>>215632771You're an idiot.
>>215633090but you can get a posse together and do it yourself if you want tothe wasteland is for men of action
>>215632708>milk Fallout 3 and 4God I hope so. They will probably do at least an okay job with their own IP. Bethesda games a just supposed to be "fun" after all"
>>215633017In a setting like this you're far more likely to get murdered if you aren't in a faction. Most stragglers are just bandit bait.
>>215633234the wasteland is for pitiful subsistence farmers, violent gangs, irradiated lunatics who crave human flesh, the game doesn't try to hide this.
>>215631828No one cares about your retarded reddit garbage, ranjesh.
>>215633107That's gay.Civilization is built via communal hierarchy. A technocracy is the best answer to the question of the apocalypse.
>>215631897>"ew california"you got that right
>>215635008Ok I laughed.
>>215633191FUCK OFF CEASAR
>>215636599>literally call the Legion the second shittiest optionYou're a fucking moron, Caesar was a NCRaboo at the max; his entire schtick was conquering the NCR and imposing military governorship over it and making a great united empire where the NCR deals with the population and economy and the Legion defines security and conquest and cleans up the corrupt aspects of the NCR. Sallow was a New Commiefornian at his core and why the Legion is as shit as the NCR.
>>215636868all great societies in their youth deal with corruption, even the US, NCR will reform and thrive, its the best option for humanity, cope n seethe etc
>>215636919it's a great lateral move that will eventually result in the exact same thing as last time, but even faster the second time around
>>215631828The show isn't cannon
>>215637115no you're thinking of the enclave, not the NCR, the enclave is the american government of the fallout universe literally the same thing, the NCR is more akin to the american government in our world
>>215636919You're dumb as shit and even in FO2 it's shown to be a trash faction where the few people who mean well are undermined by corruption. Every settlement quest that results in that settlement becoming under NCR influence is a result of subertfuge or backstabbing by a local out for their own ends, and not the benefit of the settlement. Even with Tandi being a benevolent ruler, it's shown she could only keep a lid on the problems and it went entirely to shit once she died; even with a positive Courier intervening for the NCR, none of NCR's problems are fixed, they just now control the Lake Mead water and Hoover Dam electrical resources to keep the corruption afloat a little longer.>NCR will reform and thriveIt has no impetus to do so, especially in a NCR ending of New Vegas.NCR simps are the absolute worst, and the worst aspect about the NCR is even when it isn't a shithole, and it is positive, the positivity is pre-war boring ass normalcy, without even a spin on it. The original Fallout had some inklings of normalcy trying to pop out in the wasteland, but it was a different type of normalcy; the Followers looked like edgelord raiders but were benevolent supporters, so had atleast some interesting take; NCR is just boring faux-normalcy that is familiar.
>>215637153who cares anymore
>>2156324681,2 and NV have the only good stories so it makes sense that people are invested into the one that is most accessible
>>215637153Fallout 2 retconned the shit out of Fallout and the only people who care about "canon" are NMA/Codex drones perpetually seething at Bethesda.>>215637197>muh 1/2/NV fake ass dichotomyAnother NMA/Codex falsehood.
>>215633107The Courier is a killing machine, he doesn't have time for administrative or managerial bullshit
>>215637169again, the government in the fallout world was the fascist corpos of the enclave for the longest time, compared to that, NCR's normalcy is great, its utopian even, thats why they deal with so much corruption in that world, but give it 50-100 years
>>215637222>Evil capitalists caused the nukes to drop and wipe out their comfy lives.... for profit?
>>215637267Whom are you quoting?>>215637264NCR wasn't going to be around for another 50-100 years.
>>215637366maybe not with retarded deus ex machina writing of the show? where somehow their thriving capital gets nuked, but still the best faction by far
>>215637366I'm paraphrasing the show's writing. The capitalists scheming in a darkroom to cause a nuclear apocalypse
>>215637264>Being forced to work on farms for free is a utopia
>>215637436that's just growing pains
>>215637162>American Government in our worldYes, exactly. Gay and inefficient.The world would literally be better if an immortal genius ran every everything himself and you're retarded if you disagree.
>>215631828I think the house ending is going to be the canon ending and it is the correct ending to be honest.
>>215637402Yeah that's lame, and the commie satellite being Soviet instead of Chinese too. Soviets were moderate allies because the Resource Wars depleted western Eurasia and the USSR in Fallout's timeline was just trying to keep itself together.
>>215637455nothing wrong with the american gov of our world, ushered in one of the most prosperous periods in all of human history
>>215631828Based veiled threat of violence thread
>>215637478There is everything wrong with the US Government, both now and basically at any point after Andrew Jackson's presidency.There were a few decent presidents after him, some who were willing to allude to the fact our government is run by banks and weapon salesmen, but the entire concept is flawed and has been altered to favor corruption.A man in a tube who makes all his decisions based on math is the best option. You have no argument.
>>215637554>A man in a tube who makes all his decisions based on math is the best option. You have no argument.you are a TRANShumanist bugman that wants to be ruled by AI overlords, i get it
>>215637574>AIYou're retarded, faggot.I said a man, an immortal man.A man who, like House, would still be making a man's decisions, just based on numerical certainties rather than the will of fags like you, because you're a fucking retard and you need to shoved in front of a slot machine to be distracted by flashing lights and colors until the day you die.
>>215637633things like house are so far removed from the human experience that he may as well be an AI
Damn, this thread is awful. No wonder every site user gets braiindamage lol
>>215637633>>215637730also i might be misremembering but htat retarded faggot was focusing on space exploration and leaving earth instead of fixing it, he is an omega manchild retard
>>215637730No. He constantly makes snide comments and gets pissy when you fuck with him. He's still a man, he's just 1000x smarter than everyone else.But have fun with the NCR, brainlet. Have fun getting raped to death by guys in football pads because they got tortured into becoming 100x better soldiers at no cost to Caesar than the NCR grunts who spend all day long not noticing things because they're just regular idiots ripe for the picking.And then both sides get raped by robot cops with missile launchers, because they were both wrong.
>>215637847>And then both sides get raped by robot cops with missile launchers, because they were both wrong.
>>215637847good jokes but the NCR beat the BoS in helios one i think they'll be fine against some inbred downies with clubs
>>215631828Based, committing terrorist attacks because of entirely retarded reasons is gonna be the new hype.
>>215637887>i think they'll be fine against some inbred downies with clubsNigger, nearly every fucking NCR quest in the game is them either getting completely rekt by the Legion or forced into a complete standstill unless you help them out. They are completely fucked. The best hope the Mojave had outside of House was the Rangers, and the NCR absorbed them years before the game started and made them worse.
>>215637847Can't you achieve the same thing by going Yes Man and upgrading the robots yourself? It seems like at that point it's cuckery to let House do whatever he wants if you have the opportunity to do it yourself. In fact, it may even be indicative of his lack of capability if a brain-damaged courier can easily kill this faggot in a tube.
>>215631828don't watch that shit and watch the og kino
>>215637972>cuckeryThe Courier isn't fucking from New Vegas, retard. He's passing through.Is it "cuckery" every other time you wander into a place, help with someone else's shit and then leave some dumb reward?There's basically no version of the Courier who is suited to rule anything.
>>215637887Without player input, Legion fucks NCR (but that's because devs ran out of time to flesh out Legion quests)
>>215632928If that was the point of the DLC then why could i come back with my backpack filled with gold bars?
>>215638012>>215637939thats also because NCR is in an awful spot after losing so much shit at fuckin helis one (which was a huge W, legion could never)whats ur retort to >>215637818house is lierally a musk tier terraform other planets but not earth retard
>>215638012That's not why, it's obviously intended that the bloated, impotent bureaucracy of the NCR would be subverted by psychotic warriors.The Fiends also have no issue making the NCR look like bitches, and they're just raiders on drugs who found some energy weapons.
>>215637887>20 to 1 numeric advantage over the BoS>officers like Colonel Cassandra "Kill Em All" MooreYeah I'm sure Operation Sunburst was a cakewalk operation of no trouble for the NCRA.
>>215637972He's the Augustus to my Agrippa. Great statesman collabing with great general/soldier. He has proven track record of good stewardship & won't die anytime soon, much better than the wanderlusting Courier
>>215632425>ugh just give democracy one more chance bro it won't end up with corrupt bureaucracy and another nuclear war>it's not like last time bro trust me that wasn't real democracyKek>>215632327I'm still pissed that they couldn't make a motorcycle work. It's obvious that the Khans are supposed to be a biker gang.
People actually watch this show?
>>215638036I would rather live on a terraformed moon than an irradiated earth. Once again, this is just math.>thats also because NCR is in an awful spot after losing so much shit at fuckin helis one (which was a huge W, legion could never)The legion did and does regularly defeat the NCR. The NCR's greatest victory against the Legion happened years ago, they've been losing ever since.You sound like you think the BoS was some kind of strong force in the Mojave. They were not, and they still almost won against the NCR, because Father Elijah is also smarter and better than anyone in the NCR prior to losing his mind.The handful of elderly Enclave members in the Mojave pull off a better assault than anything the BoS does in the game, or prior to the game in the Mojave where they basically committed suicide in a desperate search for a gay satellite gun that sucks ass.
>>215638112it hasn't ended up as nuclear war in our world nor will it probably
>>215638124No just 35-45 y/o women who watch it so they can talk about it being based on a videogame to with their friends and feel young, same with The Witcher show.
>>215638138>I would rather live on a terraformed moon than an irradiated earth. Once again, this is just math.you are a RETRD, if you have the tech to terraform the moon, you can terraform earth no matter the state its inall tech-bros fail at this simple logic
>>215638124I basedraged out after stumbling across first 2 episodes
>>215638176No, the technology that could in theory create an atmosphere similar to non-irradiate earth in an environment that was not suffering from decades of radiation poisoning would be a lateral technology to one that could completely remove or subvert that radiation. It's easier to plant crops somewhere new than try to just turn the fucking dirt in a place you already know isn't working.You shouldn't latch on to this point.
>>215638124the cinematography is excellent to be fair
>>215638176there's no deathclaws on the moon
>>215638176Not as retarded as the NCR thinking they could terraform Nevada.
>>215638003>Is it "cuckery" every other time you wander into a place, help with someone else's shit and then leave some dumb reward?Yes.>There's basically no version of the Courier who is suited to rule anything.This is headcannon autism. There's no canonical fact to establish that the Courier isn't capable of ruling anything, besides being an outsider, which hardly precludes someone from ruling effectively. You're aligning with an outcome where you let a competent, stern man take the reins, despite having the capability to achieve power yourself. Peak cuckery.
>>215638741>having the capability You don't. Yes Man does, who by your gay-ass logic might as well be a girl Benny creampied 800 times already, but go ahead and explain how he's the better choice than House.
>>215638802Yes Man isn't sapient; he's just a tool, kind of like how Mr. House views the Courier, a status you take pride in.
>>215638347>>215638269>>2156382201) its clearly possible on earth even if u go that route like old world blues (i fogot the name of the location lmao) 2) THERE'S NO FUCKING WORLD WHERE ITS EASIER TO SETTLE THE FUCKING MOON THAN AN IRRADIATED EARTHits simply a manchild idea, its that simple, no different than the enclave's hopes of purging every mutant, at least the NCR lives within the reality of the world and tries to make something out of it
Anyone who talks about cuckoldry as a real thing that should influence your decision making is a fucking moron.
>>215638865>Just a toolYeah, there's definitely not multiple direct statements he makes about how he could eventually fuck you over, which is meant to the be entire fucking point of that ending, you retard.You understand this is a game from 15 years ago. The science is settled. You might as well be an NCRfag.
>>215638901>1) its clearly possible on earth even if u go that route like old world blues (i fogot the name of the location lmao)Retard.>2) THERE'S NO FUCKING WORLD WHERE ITS EASIER TO SETTLE THE FUCKING MOON THAN AN IRRADIATED EARTHWell, in a world where you had an army of invincible robots, ones that work via automatic programming and that you could directly take control over any time you wish.If only someone, somewhere had such a thing at his disposal...>its simply a manchild idea, its that simple, no different than the enclave's hopes of purging every mutant, at least the NCR lives within the reality of the world and tries to make something out of itEvery mutant should be purged.You're a fucking retard.
>>215638931This is where you reveal your autism. Yes Man makes those statements as a precautionary warning. If he had intended to fuck over the Courier, he wouldn't have said that, now would he? Housefags are autistic troons.
>>215639011>IfGreat stuff.
>>215638997>Well, in a world where you had an army of invincible robots, ones that work via automatic programming and that you could directly take control over any time you wish.>If only someone, somewhere had such a thing at his disposal...maybe use that on earth to rebuild instead of fleeing to the fucking moon, like there's no world where you think that's a good idea and not a manchild delusion >every mutant should be purgedYOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD, the world will forever stay somewhat irradiated and mutants are the new reality, denying it means you're an enclave-tard, destined to keep jobbing FOREVER for a goal you can't possible obtain, just learn to live with the new world instead of pussying out or trying to destroy it, its called maturity something you house-toddlers and enclavetroons clearly don't have, you sound like you still say you're a fucking libertarian
>>215639058>maybe use that on earth to rebuild instead of fleeing to the fucking moon, like there's no world where you think that's a good idea and not a manchild delusionNo. If I had the means to conquer either Nevada, or the fucking moon, I'd take the moon. You're a gay nigger retard if you disagree.>YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD, the world will forever stay somewhat irradiated and mutants are the new reality,No, there's various successful purifying methods throughout the games and the general lore.But one of the more casual ways to purify the land of mutants is the hundreds and hundreds you kill mercilessly any time you play through a fallout game.Unless you're saying you don't slaughter most of the wildlife you encounter.
>>215639126>But one of the more casual ways to purify the land of mutants is the hundreds and hundreds you kill mercilessly any time you play through a fallout game.>Unless you're saying you don't slaughter most of the wildlife you encounter.THAT DOESN'T MATTER, basically all wildlife on earth is now mutated or irradiated, you have to be a reality denying looney to think that its possible to get rid of mutants now, the logical solution is to integrate them into the new world, 2 headed brahmin already pull society in fallout, imagine supermutants etc helping out, anyway if you take the show as canon it says shady sands was as developed as a modern city in our world, electricity, amenities, public transit, so yes the NCR's system works better than delusional house or enclave shit, it just got deus ex machina'd in the show by le evil vault tec
>>215639126>>215639169btw how fucking ironic is it that you keep talking about the NCR ending up the same way as the old world with nuclear war etc but you literally have enclave looney takes on mutants that its somehow possible to get rid of it all and go back to how things were instead of yknow building on the foundation on the new world and actually realistically learning to live and prosper in it, how contradictory
>>215639169>THAT DOESN'T MATTERthe hundreds of species of permanently hostile man-eating creatures doesn't matter?you were sucking off the US government earlier, you know how many species we put government bounties on and hunting into extinction for much lesser crimes?
>>215639205Yeah, I'm so enclave-brained, thinking the world would be better off without Deathclaws and radroaches and an entire "race" of "humans" with a built-in countdown to cannibal chimp-out mode
>>215631828>simping for new commieforniaywnbaw
>>215639208>>215639235im not talking about the innately hostile mutants or fuckin deathclaws, but things like brahmin, supermutants, and a billion other mutants that probably exist and can be domesticated and lived alongside with to our benefit
>>215639300>living with supermutantsAmericans have already tried living with niggers for hundreds of years and they're still not integrated, you're living in a libtard pipedream where "everyone just has to get along and it will be fine".
>>215639300Or you could just clone regular cows on the fucking moon, and you'll be bitching about how stupid I am, and repeating "tech bro" over and over because you're a fucking zoomer, and I'll be eating steak with barbecue sauce.And you'll be eating mutant meat that tastes bad and probably takes 6 months off your life every time you take a bite.
>>215639361>>215639365ok retard and then what, just become gray aliens? abandoning our home planet is just about the most cucked retarded shit you can ever do, fuck that shit, its not a libtard pipe dream, supermutants aren't niggers, you give nogs too much credit, they're just genetically enhanced n mutated humans, plenty of civilized ones in the series, it was just an example though, denying reality when you can't change it is the oldest delusion in the book, accepting it and thriving is the mature option
>>215639410>b-but there are some good onesSame could be said about niggers, the only one deluded here is you
>>215639410>abandoning our home planetWhy are you so mad about this? And it wouldn't be abandoned, there'd be tons of faggots like you who stay on the fucked, hellhole planet because you're just retarded.House ain't letting you on the rocket ship, I can tell you that right now, so you got nothing to worry about.Unless this is all coming from your NCRlet brain where you know you'll just end up seething seeing a glorious, glowing future city on the moon every night while you're still dodging geckos.
>>215639468because our planet is our precious cradle and its tied to what makes us human and all of our history, you would eventually end up as like some non-human freaks that fart to prepel themselves around zero G if you fuck off to live in space forever, put simply its tried and ture escapism, reality denial and cope, NCR has real potential to rebuild society to where we'll be the masters of earth again, radiation mutants or not, its just the more sane and correct choice, simple as btw this is discarding the fact that he can just use his fucking rockets n robots to move to fucking madagascar or something and build his utopia there instead of on the fucking moon, its some elon musk shit, doesn't make sense, simple as
>because our planet is our precious cradle and its tied to what makes us human and all of our history,the same could be said of our home town, or the home cave your ancestor lived in a billion years agoI wonder what would've happened nobody ever left anywhereAlso, you understand, and I've mentioned this before in this thread, this same logic applies to the NCR deciding they just need to occupy Nevada, even though they weren't equipped for it and it's making things worse for people "back home">you would eventually end up as like some non-human freaks Wow, crazy. Good thing there's no danger of that happening when you stay on Fallout's version of planet earth.
>>215631849rolling the fuck up on camp golf in power armor armed to the teeth with explosive projectiles and slaughtering everything that moves
